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Old July 2nd, 2012, 10:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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There's nothing special about creating a watering hole thread. It was just an idea that was started by a member (she was not a site staff member when she started the thread, btw) to keep the community aspect going while waiting for the device to be released.

To be honest, that's what I've felt that the Verizon pre-release thread has become and why I haven't tried to really tighten the off-topic chatter in there, so a separate thread isn't necessary, IMO. And seeing how the VZW GS3 is the only one waiting for release, I don't think there's a reason to make a general thread (vs just VZW). I'm half tempted to lock this thread to keep it from being a second VZW pre-release discussion thread.

I'll leave it open, for now, to see if any discussion is developed for it. If the discussion goes towards just being VZW, I'll likely lock it or merge it with the VZW thread. If this thread turns out to be a discussion among all GS3 owners, then I'd be more than happy to leave it be or move it to the Lounge, to be with the other Watering Hole thread.
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There's nothing special about creating a watering hole thread. It was just an idea that was started by a member (she was not a site staff member when she started the thread, btw) to keep the community aspect going while waiting for the device to be released.

To be honest, that's what I've felt that the Verizon pre-release thread has become and why I haven't tried to really tighten the off-topic chatter in there, so a separate thread isn't necessary, IMO.

I say there's always room for one more thread...
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My plan was yes, that it could be for all S3 folks, not just Verizon. I figured since this device is being released on all 4 major networks that it could be a place for everyone. Maybe it's too late to start this thread or then again maybe it's to early...time will tell.
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Hey treb, I saw you post about this in the GNex Watering Hole and figured I'd check it out. Hmm, fresh, new, plenty of room to grow. Kinda nice.

Anyway, let me start by saying congrats to all you proud new SGSIII owners, it looks like a solid device. You get this sucker established and I'll drop by for the conversation, and feel free to visit us in the Galaxy Nexus Watering Hole as well.
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Hey treb, I saw you post about this in the GNex Watering Hole and figured I'd check it out. Hmm, fresh, new, plenty of room to grow. Kinda nice.

Anyway, let me start by saying congrats to all you proud new SGSIII owners, it looks like a solid device. You get this sucker established and I'll drop by for the conversation, and feel free to visit us in the Galaxy Nexus Watering Hole as well.
Thanks for the support. Hopefully our thread can be as successful as yours. Feel free to stop by anytime.
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I was wondering what would happen after all of us received our S3's. I think (not that my opinion really counts ) it would be nice to have all carriers input. This is going to be a huge community after all is said and done. Many opinions, specialties, quirks etc. I was getting a bit sad knowing the pre release thread is coming to an end. Being a long time lurker, I felt comfortable in that thread and I am excited to see everyone in this one. I say ~ the more the merrier~ I would love to know what neat things att, sprint, tmo etc have discovered in order to quicken my mastery of this device

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I am wondering, just how big will this S3 thing become? I am so pleased with Samsung for releasing the exact phone over all networks. I am going to love the fact I can go into multiple stores and buy accessories. (ok I'm a girl lol)

Htc made it impossible to purchase items cross carriers, or even big ticket stores.

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What defines a Galaxy S III ? We already know some have a quad processor (Exynos) and some a dual (Snapdragon S4), there are two camera modules being used (Sony and Samsung), 1GB or 2GB of RAM, Wolfson or Samsung sound chip, different radios, ........ The only common attributes seem to be the screen with Gorilla Glass 2, the plastic housing and the "Galaxy S III" logo on the battery cover.

So it all boils down to this, "It's a Galaxy S III because the back cover says so."
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What defines a Galaxy S III ? We already know some have a quad processor (Exynos) and some a dual (Snapdragon S4), there are two camera modules being used (Sony and Samsung), 1GB or 2GB of RAM, Wolfson or Samsung sound chip, different radios, ........ The only common attributes seem to be the screen with Gorilla Glass 2, the plastic housing and the "Galaxy S III" logo on the battery cover.

So it all boils down to this, "It's a Galaxy S III because the back cover says so."
Sillygoose! That's kind of a negative nanny way of putting it. It's not a Samsung sound chip anyways ... it's a Qualcomm chip:

Samsung Galaxy S3 features a Wolfson audio chip, but not in North America

We don't have real concrete info on the Qualcomm DAC yet, but I would wager it's a fair bit better than the Yamaha in the Galaxy S II variants. In addition, all the S3's are shipping with Ice Cream Sandwich skinned with Samsung's most streamlined and up-to-date TouchWiz interface, which is actually quite smooth, polished, and downright functional as far as skins go. As a Sense user and a TouchWiz user, I would take TouchWiz and its custom apps over HTC's ANY DAY. It hasn't always been this way, but TouchWiz has outpaced HTC, despite both skins improving.

So beyond the same screen and same shell, and same microphones, and mostly the same cameras (all versions tested have overwhelmingly positive reviews on the cameras), you've also got the same apps and under the hood OS enhancements from Samsung and advancement of ICS, which is still only on a small percentage of handsets worldwide. They both also have the same reasonably strong speakerphones and noise cancelling microphones and the same 2100 battery.

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Both devices are so similar in real usage that almost no one will ever miss the quad core. Apps are still not even maxing the Adreno 225. Yes, the new Mali is a better GPU, and the quad version is capable of faster benchmark scores (provided the benchmark provides multi-core support, which will also apply to app performance!) However, Krait is no slouch. It's a very mature, speedy, and battery efficient platform. It's cost effective as well, which means many of us can purchase a $200 top-tier device rather than the $300 trend many high end smartphones have followed on their release day. Razr release day price? $300. Galaxy Nexus? $300. HTC Rezound? $300. Their price eventually reduced, but the 16GB Galaxy S III goes for $200 with most U.S. carriers (on contract pricing.) I doubt Exynos has the kind of availability too meet such competitive prices with U.S. and European markets combined. I am very happy to pay $200 for this instead of $300, and I'm still getting the Cadillac of all dual core processors. Krait (S4) leaves all current gen dual cores in the dust.

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This is the key, here, and this is the usage model that 99% of us will throw at the phone most of the time, and even when loading multiple heavy apps, the U.S. S III is not known to lag noticeably more than the international, and 2GB of memory obviously contributes to that. Raw multithreaded benchmark scores, and the GPU are the only areas where you will see notable differences, and they still are not perceivable by the end user.

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We've gone over basically all of the benchmarks available to us on Android right now, and yet subjective performance impressions are still valuable. The MDP8960 is the absolute fastest we've seen Ice Cream Sandwich thus far - the UI is absolutely butter smooth everywhere, and web browsing in either Chrome or the stock Android Browser is also the smoothest we've seen it. There's no stutter bringing up the application switcher, or taking screenshots, two places that 4.0.3 still drops frames on the Galaxy Nexus.
Krait offers another generational leap in mobile SoC performance. The range of impact depends entirely on the workload but it's safe to say that it's noticeable. The GPU side of the equation has been improved tremendously as well, although that's mostly a function of 28nm enabling a very high clock speed for Qualcomm's Adreno 225.
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I'm always up for a bit of banter with fellow S3 owners, do we get a bar in here too? And maybe a few sofas? Looks like the place needs cheering up a tad

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Both devices are so similar in real usage that almost no one will ever miss the quad core. Apps are still not even maxing the Adreno 225. Yes, the new Mali is a better GPU, and the quad version is capable of faster benchmark scores (provided the benchmark provides multi-core support, which will also apply to app performance!) However, Krait is no slouch. It's a very mature, speedy, and battery efficient platform. It's cost effective as well, which means many of us can purchase a $200 top-tier device rather than the $300 trend many high end smartphones have followed on their release day. Razr release day price? $300. Galaxy Nexus? $300. HTC Rezound? $300. Their price eventually reduced, but the 16GB Galaxy S III goes for $200 with most U.S. carriers (on contract pricing.) I doubt Exynos has the kind of availability too meet such competitive prices with U.S. and European markets combined. I am very happy to pay $200 for this instead of $300, and I'm still getting the Cadillac of all dual core processors. Krait (S4) leaves all current gen dual cores in the dust.
This comment about the price in the US being able to be $200 instead of $300 probably has little to do with the SoC. I would suspect that the S4 Krait actually costs more than the Exynos. Why? Samsung makes the Exynos in-house and they had to buy the S4 Krait chips from Qualcomm. While I'm sure Qualcomm has given them bulk pricing, I still would think it costs more, or close to the same price (considering R&D and everything) to where it really wouldn't effect the final pricing.

Also, the $200 price is the remainder after the carrier subsidizes the phone. iPhones are far more expensive (when paying full retail) then the Razr/Razr MAXX and the Nexus that you mention, but it also has a $200 price tag. The real reason is how much the carrier is willing to subsidize.

Verizon is the carrier that started requiring the consumer to pay more of the subsidy. It started with the Thunderbolt, and they reasoned it was because of LTE. The T-Bolt was the first phone I've heard of that had a $250 and then later LTE models went for $300. Verizon is selling the GS3 for $200 because every other carrier is selling the GS3 for $200. Just like how they're forced into $200 for the iPhone, because I'm sure they would love to push more of the subsidy to the consumer. When the iPhone5 (or whatever it'll be called) comes out, equipped with LTE, the subsidy will be $200 on all networks, and Verizon will (regrettably) follow suit.
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Just give us a little time to get things going as it's a little crazy over at the S3 threads right now. Not to mention alot of us are still waiting to get out S3's ( that was me throwing Verizon under the bus ). Not to mention the S3 folks have to figure out this thread is now over here in The Lounge.
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Just give us a little time to get things going as it's a little crazy over at the S3 threads right now. Not to mention alot of us are still waiting to get out S3's ( that was me throwing Verizon under the bus ). Not to mention the S3 folks have to finger out this thread is now over here in The Lounge.
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Is it just a general anything (regarding S3) goes?
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Pretty much. The topic will probably drift away from S3 periodically. That's fine. The VZW thread in the S3 subforum is a fairly good example of what you can expect of this thread if it gains the same popularity.
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Think of the S3 forum as the factory floor and the S3 Watering Hole like the break room. You can take off the hardhat and safety goggles and relax a little bit. Hang out and chat, which is why it got moved to the lounge.

In the GNex watering hole we talk about anything. Even spent about 200 posts one time discussing various forms of pulled pork. Some times we throw props about what are kids are doing or ask advise about other things going on in our life.
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Think of the S3 forum as the factory floor and the S3 Watering Hole like the break room. You can take off the hardhat and safety goggles and relax a little bit. Hang out and chat, which is why it got moved to the lounge.

In the GNex watering hole we talk about anything. Even spent about 200 posts one time discussing various forms of pulled pork. Some times we throw props about what are kids are doing or ask advise about other things going on in our life.
Ah, well then, count me in ... As I for one would have shut down the pulled pork conversation with my 1 recipe..... After-all, Texas kinda has the meat thing licked (pun intended )!

Now, can you advise me on HOW TO GET MY BLEEPING PHONE ?
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Ah, well then, count me in ... As I for one would have shut down the pulled pork conversation with my 1 recipe..... After-all, Texas kinda has the meat thing licked (pun intended )!

Now, can you advise me on HOW TO GET MY BLEEPING PHONE ?
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Sure, I think I can help you with that.

First, you need to call up BLEEP and ask to speak with BLEEP. Give them this special referral code BLEEP. Once that's done, you can give them your pre-order number and they will process your pre-order shipment today. If you give them the password of BLEEP-BLEEP, they will even overnight it.
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Sure, I think I can help you with that.

First, you need to call up BLEEP and ask to speak with BLEEP. Give them this special referral code BLEEP. Once that's done, you can give them your pre-order number and they will process your pre-order shipment today. If you give them the password of BLEEP-BLEEP, they will even overnight it.
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Sure, I think I can help you with that.

First, you need to call up BLEEP and ask to speak with BLEEP. Give them this special referral code BLEEP. Once that's done, you can give them your pre-order number and they will process your pre-order shipment today. If you give them the password of BLEEP-BLEEP, they will even overnight it.
OMG... How funny!

Brilliant ! Thanks for the laugh
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So.... Can someone please define "watering hole" ? I know, I know "newbie".
Is it just a general anything (regarding S3) goes?

I would have just said pub/bar, hence my post 'drinks are on me' lol
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As long as they are pork...... I can accomidate. Allow me to fire up the green egg !
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It's that the combination grill, steamer, smoker thing?
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Omg... the only real way to bbq... YES !!!
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Maybe... maybe not.

I wouldn't know since I HAVEN'T RECEIVED MINE YET ! lol
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Omg... the only real way to bbq... YES !!!
Nah, I have a dedicated smoker. A weber Grill, and a turkey fryer that I use for lobsters, steamers, corn on the cob, and fresh cut french fries.
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Maybe... maybe not.

I wouldn't know since I HAVEN'T RECEIVED MINE YET ! lol
Sux to be waiting then

What colour & capacity did you order?

I might consider swapping mine out, it'll get to you faster, for a real good bbq and beer-up.! Getting bored of all the rain now.
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Nah, I have a dedicated smoker. A weber Grill, and a turkey fryer that I use for lobsters, steamers, corn on the cob, and fresh cut french fries.
I have a dedicated smoker as well... I normally use the green egg for bbq exclusively since I like real wood logs for smoking.
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What colour & capacity did you order?

I might consider swapping mine out, it'll get to you faster, for a real good bbq and beer-up.! Getting bored of all the rain now.
I ordered 3. 2 pebble blue and 1 white all 3~ 16g

Maybe I should have purchased the 32 , but I figured with 64g expandable it was overkill ?
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Maybe I should have purchased the 32 , but I figured with 64g expandable it was overkill ?
Nice!

The blues are just shexxy!

As for overkill, I guess it just depends on what your going to fill it with.

Hope ya get em soon tho, so you can join the club (outsider ) lol
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Maybe... maybe not.

I wouldn't know since I HAVEN'T RECEIVED MINE YET ! lol
Any update on your S3 order ?? Did your credit card get charged yet? Tracking # ? My Blue 32GB is on the FedEx truck as we speak & should be hear by 3:00pm.
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Any update on your S3 order ?? Did your credit card get charged yet? Tracking # ? My Blue 32GB is on the FedEx truck as we speak & should be hear by 3:00pm.
Nada....

I'm just going to concede it wont be this week .

So, I will just have to drown my sorrows and find the perfect purse to put my new phone in. Time to shop ! lol

UPDATE.... there is a (+) now !!!!

Now it's been "sent for processing " !!!! OMG !!!!

Credit card charged X3 !!!! Oh man!, Now if they send them overnight with Sat. delivery, all will be well in the world !
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Well folks got my S3 about 12 hours ago now & all I can say is WOW!! The Pebble Blue is just beautiful, its just a color you have to see in person to really appreciate it. Phone fits great in my hand, very smooth switching from screen to screen, 4G LTE is blazing fast, & the screen is just beautiful. No radio issues at all for me as this was/is a concern for many after the Galaxy Nexus problems. I plan to enjoy this phone for at least a good year & a half as I am now a Verizon " full retailer payer " for life. Hope to see you folks from the S3 threads over here when you need a place to just sit back, relax ,& talk S3 stuff or whatever. I'm looking forward to seeing where this thread goes in the future. Should be fun!! So tell all your S3 pals to come on over b/c we're always open.
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Yup, unless at least I think so.
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I'll be picking mine up from VZW on Tuesday. Sucks to wait!! Coming from Sense, what will be the easiest way to switch between programs? I'm used to pulling down the notification shade and tapping the program that I want. Will the easiest way now be long pressing the home button?
Unfortunately you don't have a dedicated multitasking button like the Nexus. But, yeah, the long press on the Home button will bring that up.
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