I am really nervous that Apple will try to end all Android products. Believe me, if they can, they will. Has anybody read Steve Jobs' book?
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[QUOTE=mape245;4898559]I am really nervous that Apple will try to end all Android products. Believe me, if they can, they will. Has anybody read Steve Jobs' book?
Why are you nervous?
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Apple made a small cut in Android's Samsung area resulting in a little blood loss. However, Android is not a hemophiliac so the bleeding is easily controlled and it will fully heal with no permanent damage.
Meanwhile, Android continues to easily dominate worldwide smartphone sales and make significant inroads into the tablet market.
Moving on...nothing to see here...
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As long as Google is around Android will be around. I think someone else summed it up nicely. Apple is a company that has ran out of idea's. There just trying to buy time with the lawsuits. They don't come up with something new and exciting soon. They know there going to go back to being that little boutique manufacture that sells to the "We think where cool crowd".
They thought up the
I-Pod
I-Phone
I-Pod Touch
I-Pad
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The way apple has stayed on top is by coming out with that latest must have gadget. The problem is now they cant think of anything. Android is that latest must have gadget really. Compared to the competition its a far Superior product.
To top it off Microsoft is around the corner with there new tablet. Which I have a feeling makes Apple even more nervous. The majority of computers in the WORLD run Window's. Microsoft mange's a hit with its new Window's based devices. Which I am told is designed to interface seamlessly with your desktop app's wise.
Apple can pretty much kiss there butt's goodbye there also not stupid enough to attack Microsoft either. Microsoft might not have the same capital as Apple right now but they have been around the block a time or two. There still arguably the top dog in the computer world.
I guess what I am getting at is this. Apple has to take down Microsoft or Android to continue to survive in the market. Microsoft is out of the question so there going after Android.
As long as Google is around Android will be around. I think someone else summed it up nicely. Apple is a company that has ran out of idea's. There just trying to buy time with the lawsuits. They don't come up with something new and exciting soon. They know there going to go back to being that little boutique manufacture that sells to the "We think where cool crowd".
They thought up the
I-Pod
I-Phone
I-Pod Touch
I-Pad
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The way apple has stayed on top is by coming out with that latest must have gadget. The problem is now they cant think of anything. Android is that latest must have gadget really. Compared to the competition its a far Superior product.
To top it off Microsoft is around the corner with there new tablet. Which I have a feeling makes Apple even more nervous. The majority of computers in the WORLD run Window's. Microsoft mange's a hit with its new Window's based devices. Which I am told is designed to interface seamlessly with your desktop app's wise.
Apple can pretty much kiss there butt's goodbye there also not stupid enough to attack Microsoft either. Microsoft might not have the same capital as Apple right now but they have been around the block a time or two. There still arguably the top dog in the computer world.
I guess what I am getting at is this. Apple has to take down Microsoft or Android to continue to survive in the market. Microsoft is out of the question so there going after Android.
Still, I feel like Google is too much of a Juggernaut for even Apple.
Still, I feel like Google is too much of a Juggernaut for even Apple.
I agree but the difference between Microsoft and Google is. Microsoft is old school they been around since the start. They know the in's and outs of the legal system better. They know who to speak with they have friends in high places. That google could only dream of having. I personally think if you compare the two Google is a bigger company. The bottom line is Microsoft has more experience then google does so that makes them more dangerous to attack.
Success breeds envy. Never heard of an Apple fan hating on Android .
well two things for that statement.. there are, I have seen apple fanboys hating on android..
and if its not as much as android towards apple, maybe its because Android related companies don't go around suing everyone all willy nilly
I am really nervous that Apple will try to end all Android products. Believe me, if they can, they will. Has anybody read Steve Jobs' book?
Here is an article that talks about Apple being a monopoly.
I would not worry. I think Android will be with us for decades to come. That said, Blackberry could release something very cool or Microsoft listens to their customers and changes their Windows phone OS that gives us pause.
Remember, there are those inevitable "two guys in a garage" that always seem to come up with something cool that is unexpected.
Apple is a monopoly of sorts. If you own an iDevice, there is only one store you can visit for applications. Forgetting jailbreaking for a moment. With Android, it is easy to DL applications from almost anywhere.
Steve Jobs was quite clear about Android. He HATES it. But Jobs is gone now. I will go out on a limb and say that Apple without Jobs will be free to do anything they wish, like license iOS to others or release three or four new phones every day like the Android side does or perhaps release budget iThings like a cheaper iPhone or iPad.
Take comfort in the fact that Android is getting too big to fail. Apple will not take out Google/Android. About all they can do is use and we all know how much Apple hates suing people.
Eh.. I think Apple has reached its peak in popularity and has shown its true colors to the public. They have their heads stuck too far up their own a$$es. When they sued Samsung they basically said that people were too stupid to differentiate between and IPhone and a Samsung Galaxy. Really? I remember IBM was huge in the 80s, then Dell was huge in the 2000s, I predict a similiar fall for Apple.
Eh.. I think Apple has reached its peak in popularity and has shown its true colors to the public. They have their heads stuck too far up their own a$$es. When they sued Samsung they basically said that people were too stupid to differentiate between and IPhone and a Samsung Galaxy. Really? I remember IBM was huge in the 80s, then Dell was huge in the 2000s, I predict a similiar fall for Apple.
Only time and sales figures will tell the tale. Not sure the general public really cares about the suits or even knows the details. They want iPhones/iPads and that is all many/most know.
Again, lets wait until the next iPhone hots the ground running. Then we will know just how much the public will accept from Apple.
I think IBM lost market share in part because of competition. Basic assumption and sure, there is/was more to it. I remember the cost was high and there were other manufacturers beginning.
As for Gateway, I remember them. Weren't they powered by cows? Something like that.
We did not help. We went from purchasing hundreds of their desktops and decided we could build our computers for less $$$. Even though we got a discount because we made hundreds of thousands of modems for them.
But I got lost in the constant firing and their clanging their minds about our quality. I think they dropped us several times because of QC.
There are many reasons GW lost and I am not so sure you can compare them to Apple and their current business model. I owned several and they were never up and running all the time.
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As for Gateway, I remember them. Weren't they powered by cows? Something like that.
Heh, I have an old Gateway Laptop from 2004-ish that I still use. And yeah, their logo has that black-and-white cow pattern. With the exception of the USB ports, the thing's held up pretty well.
In the legal definition of monopoly, no they're not.
If they forced you to use nothing but apple made accessories, apple search apple maps now you're getting into a grey area. But you don't need an apple product to live.
In the legal definition of monopoly, no they're not.
If they forced you to use nothing but apple made accessories, apple search apple maps now you're getting into a grey area. But you don't need an apple product to live.
The word 'monopoly' is not a legal term, so there's no such thing as a legal definition of the word.
And a company can be a monopoly without 'forcing' you to buy anything.
The only requirement for being a monopoly is that you are the only entity that sells a particular good or service.
When a company can raise prices with impunity due to lack of competition (lack of consumer choice), they have a monopoly on the market for that product.
Apple is not becoming a monopoly given that on both phone and tablet markets, there are more and more choices available to consumers. The iPad enjoyed monopoly status for quite some time, and it's still in a darn good position, but it's trending away from being a monopoly.
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Only time and sales figures will tell the tale. Not sure the general public really cares about the suits or even knows the details. They want iPhones/iPads and that is all many/most know.
Again, lets wait until the next iPhone hots the ground running. Then we will know just how much the public will accept from Apple.
I think IBM lost market share in part because of competition. Basic assumption and sure, there is/was more to it. I remember the cost was high and there were other manufacturers beginning.
As for Gateway, I remember them. Weren't they powered by cows? Something like that.
We did not help. We went from purchasing hundreds of their desktops and decided we could build our computers for less $$$. Even though we got a discount because we made hundreds of thousands of modems for them.
But I got lost in the constant firing and their clanging their minds about our quality. I think they dropped us several times because of QC.
There are many reasons GW lost and I am not so sure you can compare them to Apple and their current business model. I owned several and they were never up and running all the time.
Every empire falls, though. Even tech empires. Greed and overreaching has brought every empire to it's knees, and there's always someone looking to supplant the empire. TBH, I don't think it'd be Google (at least in the long run) that takes down Apple. It'll likely be Amazon.
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In the legal definition of monopoly, no they're not.
If they forced you to use nothing but apple made accessories, apple search apple maps now you're getting into a grey area. But you don't need an apple product to live.
Microsoft didn't prevent you from installing other web browsers than Internet Explorer, and yet they were called a monopoly and forced to divide their OS and Internet divisions into separate companies. However, public perception of Microsoft was negative (and still kind of is) and Apple is perceived as a good American company. Once that changes, it could mean politicians and lawyers are more likely to go after them.
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I hate Apple period. I hope they burn to the ground one day.
Really? They are a success and in this day of economic strife and woes, we need more companies like Apple. As soon as Apple "burns to the ground" you will likely discover Android is in trouble.
Every empire falls, though. Even tech empires. Greed and overreaching has brought every empire to it's knees, and there's always someone looking to supplant the empire. TBH, I don't think it'd be Google (at least in the long run) that takes down Apple. It'll likely be Amazon.
Yup indeed. Even Apple can falter if they do not mind the store and pay attention. Not sure what it would take for Apple to fail. I am sure the Romans thought their empire would last for eons.
I will suggest that Apple is not like the Romans in that they know they can fail so they likely take steps to minimize the risks.
You might be right as far as amazon goes. They are much like apple in that they have the Fire and the infrastructure to handle media downloads. Not sure what Google can do.
Perhaps Apple can purchase Amazon and drive the world of haters nutso.If the gubberment would allow it.
Apple will be surpassed as well as Android eventually. Just a matter of time....
Or perhaps not.
I learned long ago not to assume anything about technology. Things change and empires fall. New empires rise from the ashes and one day, we might be fondly remembering Android as the little engine that almost could and almost did.
Apple could falter or Apple could earn a trillion dollars in profit. iOS 6 could be the ultimate phone OS or ex-Google developers could create something that replaces Android. Or Android becomes THE predominant OS.
Or iOS could be released to other manufacturers or Apple could make a series of silly errors and all but disappear. Well, perhaps that last one is stretching things a bit; Apple will be around for decades to come.
It is a mistake to assume Android will always be with us and start thinking that it is the final solution. I think many here think Android is forever but fail to understand that that is not certain by any means. Perhaps Android is forever; then again, perhaps not.
Nothing guarantees Android will be with us in ten or twenty years. It likely will, but that is just an assumption. As soon as another OS arrives, perhaps manufacturers will start using that one.
My personal "unsupported by any documentation but based on the historical evidence" theory is that right now, there is a new OS in development and it just might be better than Android and/or iOS. Two guys in a garage are busy as we e-speak developing their new software.
I know this because there have always been two guys in a garage, somewhere, developing something new.
One never really knows what will happen.
If you want to assume something, try this: eventually, something will try to make a place along side iOS, Windows Phone, Android and Blackberry and one of those will become the leader of the pack, only to be replaced by two future guys in a garage that release something cool.
And Apple will sue them all. They are already preparing to sue themselves for creating devices that look like their devices. Apple claims that Apple is copying Apple's designs and they want Apple to pay.
Next target is Santa. He brings us iDevices and he is not licensed.
Gateway lost because their management turned wishy-washy and couldn't keep focus on their business model. They ended up getting sucked into Acer because they had something that Acer dearly wanted, more on that later.
After Gateway put something close to a $1B into remodeling their stores they turned around and shut them down within 6 months because they decided to get out of the direct market and start selling through the retail channel (that's why they bought eMachines, who had the channel in place and whose management had the connections into Best Buy, Walmart, etc). With a renewed focus on retail they let their B2B/Gov/Ed programs slide. Once successful with retail they turned around and decided to focus on this sliding segment of their business figuring retail could go on auto-pilot.... which didn't work, the consumer PC market has been a commodity market for years and it's a pretty cut-throat business.
As part of the deal for eMachines, the prior owner Jon Hui had a non-compete clause. When Jon decided he wanted to purchase Packard Bell who was still quite strong in Europe, Gateway and Jon made a deal to release him from the non-compete clause in exchange for GTW to get a "right of first refusal" in case he decided to sell PB. A year or so later, along comes Lenovo fresh off of purchasing IBM's PC business and wanting to boost their European business and made an attractive offer for PB ($750M if I recall correctly). Jon took it to GTW who didn't have that kind of cash any more, Acer wanted the market share too so they stepped in to buy GTW and gain that right-of-first-refusal option.
However to seal the deal GTW had to dump the B2B/Gov/Edu division which in the 6 weeks prior to the sale had just turned the corner. Problems with an Oracle-based software manufacturing system had caused a backlog of around 120K units and growing, maybe more. IT fixed the problems 6 weeks prior and had it down to about 60K-80K units and catching up fast. With this division running well it would have been profitable, but rather than telling the investors this GTW sold it to Micron's PC spin-off while loaning them the $20M to purchase it from them. Within a year or so MPC was bankrupt..... but Ted Waite the founder of GTW who still owned the controlling interest in it walked away with tons of cash.
Above is the story on Gateways downfall, since it's been mentioned as an example of what can happen to a large/dominant tech player. While any company can suffer from poor management I don't think Apple will have that problem any time soon. Sure a guy like Steve Job's is a real rarity but that doesn't mean there aren't capable people behind him. While he may have had the personality that drove the company along with his innovative ideas and solid marketing skills, he also know his time was short. I'm sure that by the time he died the people he wanted to run and control his legacy were well in place.
Smartphones/tablets are rapidly becoming a commodity item, the big profit margins will slowly fall and there will always be a few major players competing in the market. The platforms will continue to be iOS, Android, and a little bit of WinMo. As these devices continue towards commoditization their innovation will slow (but not stop) and a handful of manufacturers will own the space (Apple, Samsung, LG, Motorola). Think of the PC races in the '90's, and how the big players consolidated and now there is very little difference between their products.
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Or perhaps not.
I learned long ago not to assume anything about technology. Things change and empires fall. New empires rise from the ashes and one day, we might be fondly remembering Android as the little engine that almost could and almost did.
Apple could falter or Apple could earn a trillion dollars in profit. iOS 6 could be the ultimate phone OS or ex-Google developers could create something that replaces Android. Or Android becomes THE predominant OS.
Or iOS could be released to other manufacturers or Apple could make a series of silly errors and all but disappear. Well, perhaps that last one is stretching things a bit; Apple will be around for decades to come.
It is a mistake to assume Android will always be with us and start thinking that it is the final solution. I think many here think Android is forever but fail to understand that that is not certain by any means. Perhaps Android is forever; then again, perhaps not.
Nothing guarantees Android will be with us in ten or twenty years. It likely will, but that is just an assumption. As soon as another OS arrives, perhaps manufacturers will start using that one.
My personal "unsupported by any documentation but based on the historical evidence" theory is that right now, there is a new OS in development and it just might be better than Android and/or iOS. Two guys in a garage are busy as we e-speak developing their new software.
I know this because there have always been two guys in a garage, somewhere, developing something new.
One never really knows what will happen.
If you want to assume something, try this: eventually, something will try to make a place along side iOS, Windows Phone, Android and Blackberry and one of those will become the leader of the pack, only to be replaced by two future guys in a garage that release something cool.
And Apple will sue them all. They are already preparing to sue themselves for creating devices that look like their devices. Apple claims that Apple is copying Apple's designs and they want Apple to pay.
Next target is Santa. He brings us iDevices and he is not licensed.
I get what your trying to say, but your post is kinda all over the place.
I think the most objective outlook in regards to OS longevity is ecosystem. Android has a massive ecosystem, same with iOS, and windows. If either of which are to be replaced by something foreign, that new platform should at least attempt to offer a decent ecosystem off the bat. If not, they will get nowhere. At this day and age that's what it truly breaks down to.
Let's take bb10 for instance. Supposedly, its suppose to offer a new experience to the current paradigm of what's popular (the grid of icons experience), and bring new software innovations to the table through means of qnx. Similar to what Microsoft has attempted to do with wp. However, being that the OS is being built from the ground up, the ecosystem that will be available at launch will basically be non existant. Judging by RIM's track record, its also likely a while for developers to take them seriously. Whats more pressing is that unfortunately for RIM bb10 may be their last hope at surviving.
What this to me means is if your company is not already huge with resources to throw into this type of thing (like windows or amazon), then developing a platform from the ground up is not quite as simple as "two guys in a garage" with a cool idea (while I obviously understand that's a metaphor, still). It takes massive funding and developer support along with a good idea. Even with that though, years and years before an OS can really blossom. We are basically only seeing android truly blossom now after 4 years of being available in the wild with ics/jb.
With also interesting to note is how the average consumer sees ios/android as the best mobile choices mainly because of their similarities. Like I mentioned earlier millions of consumers long for the "grid of icons" experience, and this is all very new to them still. So I see the mobile market changing until possibly the end of this current decade, which is when the general consensus will probably be boredom.
So while I agree with you to a certain extent, I don't believe the pattern of consumers mobile buying habits will change until the average consumer is either truly bored with what's available (cause they are not), or a strong 3rd platform fully blooms.
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I think the most objective outlook in regards to OS longevity is ecosystem. Android has a massive ecosystem, same with iOS, and windows. If either of which are to be replaced by something foreign, that new platform should at least attempt to offer a decent ecosystem off the bat. If not, they will get nowhere. At this day and age that's what it truly breaks down to.
Right now this is where Apple is winning (and also about to screw up, too). Their ecosystem extends well beyond a wide range of access to books, music, and video. Everyone's doing that these days it seems, but Apple has added easier printing (Airprint) and screen sharing (Airplay). Additionally their ability to stream image and music content between devices is much simpler with Bonjour than it is with DLNA. I think Samsung has started doing something similar to Airplay but it's not widespread yet and I believe requires having their phone/tablets connecting to one of their upper end TV sets to function.
The availability of accessories using Apple's proprietary dock connector is huge; alarm clocks, home theater systems, and even auto manufacturers have adopted it and included it in their vehicles. Today I can go to Best Buy, Radio Shack, or Fry's and buy an alarm clock or speaker system with that adapter and I know any iPod, iPhone, or iTouch can connect to it quite simply while holding the smart-device upright in an easy to use position. While Android tablets and phones all use the standard USB port and audio jacks they are invariably in different spots and so there is not a simple universal dock mechanism for use across Android devices that doesn't include a dangling and unsightly cable somewhere on it.
Both Google and Amazon have their ecosystems built around content delivery but they still lack the broader ecosystem which Apple has been able to tightly integrate with their products. This is where Google/Amazon need to put some serious effort into development and standardization, it's hurting them against Apple right now because it's a big gap that's unfilled. That said, Apple may also end up losing in the Enterprise if they can't do something about Bonjours inability to work in a decent manner on large scale networks. Aerohive, Cisco, and Aruba all have products in the pipeline to work around Bonjours inefficient use of multicast but they are all just work-arounds and none of them appear to be all that graceful about it. With Apple supposedly changing their connector to a different form-factor with the iPhone 5 their customers lose out on a very substantial array of products that support their platform. If not addressed soon these screw-ups by Apple leave an opportunity for Google to step in. And I hope they do, I much prefer my Android devices (DroidX, Acer 10" Tablet) over my wife's iPad and the iPhone 4 provided by my employer.
I don't want integration. I prefer not to put all my eggs in one basket, simply out of cussedness. I use Ubuntu, Windows, Android. I don't use any of the same apps on any of the OS. Exception is Startpage and Duck duck go which you can get to in any browser. It's more work,since if I wish to use Yahoo mail I must use the browser, and change the browser to standard mode, but it adds to the satisfaction.
Apple might try for a monopoly here - they won't get it. Certain niche markets won't go along. Voice only (minority) but still use cell. Diehard MS fans. Diehard gamers.
I don't think Apple will get a monopoly in the Orient. I should think the Asian gov'ts would somehow stick up for their own industries.
Considering that they were kept in business back in the 90s by Microsoft having to release Office for Mac just to avoid a monopoly situation, I doubt if Apple wants to paint themselves into the same corner.
Well Apple took it with the whole new idea what mobile phone should be. And i think there will be a better idea and tech. Google experimenting with glasses which i think will never make it to the market. Perhaps it's going to be something that will truly replace physical or handheld devices or not.. who knows. When we watch some sci-fi movies we see amazing and cool technology and 10 years later we laugh at it because turns out we've got much better devices. My point is that no matter how hard you try to dream and think about future technology it's going to be not the way you have expected it to be but better.
From what I understand, android is linux, open source! Microsoft has been and continues to screw with linux because it's free, stable, safe (For the moment) and cutting into their profits. Linux is public property and domain.
I could see apple going after android for profit reasons....
So be it, mayne Ubuntu will be the next big player in the mobile market!
The day they make linux non public domain? Well, let's just put it this way, there will be hell to pay...
And no, I'm not a robot whom reads books about corporate giants especially about apple microsoft. I couldn't give 2 s$its! I just want my equipment to function, and linux has always come though!
Ubuntu is split between Gnome and Unity. Quite a few people don't like the Unity desktop. Now the new controversy will be the Amazon search engine included in 12.10.
I hate Apple period. I hope they burn to the ground one day.
Bit of a naive and silly thing to say, Apple spend a lot on R&D, the things they bring to the table, especially in nano development field benefit everyone.
Sorry for the double post, posted a while after and didn't realise I was still the last poster.
Apple also started with Open source. They just forked off on their own which is legal but against the spirit of open source.
A little correction:
Apple never offered any FOSS products. They did pretend to support the Linux community by developing mkLinux, which was Linux with an unnecessary microkernel stuck onto it. We in the Linux community didn't know it at the time, but Apple was using the good faith work of Linux developers around the world to further the development of their closed and proprietary next-generation OS. In the end, Apple OSX used code from the various "baby BSD" projects (FreeBSD, OpenBSD etc.) to make Darwin. And the glue code that they needed to make the *BSD code work with Mach 4 came directly from mkLinux.
Linux people like myself have some valid reasons to mistrust Apple. Apple did violate the GPL by not publishing the code that's encumbered by the GPL. And the last time I checked, Darwin is no longer available for stand-alone use. Doubleplusungood.
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If Apple does - that would mean bye-bye MS Office, too wouldn't it? Or will Apple users be allowed to "subscribe" in the cloud? Open and Libre will serve, but a lot of people don't trust them to work right since they're "free".
The Vulcan actually made that statement about Ubuntu. It couldn't be any good since it was free. He's a freaking engineer who has done some programming!
I am really nervous that Apple will try to end all Android products. Believe me, if they can, they will. Has anybody read Steve Jobs' book?
I doubt that will happen.Microsoft keeps screwing with the linux community unsuccessfully. Android is open source as well as linux that has a decent following.
Heard of occupy movements? The same could happen with this scenario. Apple and Microsoft is threatened by linux.
Linux is public domain and open source, community based.
Big business is out of control. At some point, the PUBLIC will step in, and it will be bloody war. It's coming, common sense HOPEFULLY says so!
Companies like apple and Microsoft are for profit, linux (In general) isn't.
No sociopathic company wants their profits cut into...
Is not the world revolved around money?
I wouldn't worry about it. There's too many freedom fighters out there and OPEN SOURCE software. Hell, they're even getting ubuntu linux to run on a smartphone!
I wouldn't worry about it. There's too many freedom fighters out there and OPEN SOURCE software. Hell, they're even getting ubuntu linux to run on a smartphone!
Perhaps they are, but that does not mean it will go anywhere in the market. I applaud the effort, but no way I would purchase a Ubuntu phone. Not saying it is good . . not saying it is bad . . . just saying it is one more OS to deal with in the marketplace.
All I do know is from free to 700.00 or more, there is a phone, company, market and OS for everyone. Every year, the costs drop and quality goes up, and that be good enough for me.
Perhaps they are, but that does not mean it will go anywhere in the market. I applaud the effort, but no way I would purchase a Ubuntu phone. Not saying it is good . . not saying it is bad . . . just saying it is one more OS to deal with in the marketplace.
All I do know is from free to 700.00 or more, there is a phone, company, market and OS for everyone. Every year, the costs drop and quality goes up, and that be good enough for me.
And that is very acceptable for those who just want a device that works out of the box and doesn't question things (Things that make carriers and phone makers love).
I want total control (Till I walk away from this tech crap).
My phone should be no different from a home computer. To load what "I" choose.
There should be an option for those of us whom know a little and THINK.
It's fine that you want a stock sports car. There's those of us who want to trick our rides without restrictions! Moans...
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And that is very acceptable for those who just want a device that works out of the box and doesn't question things (Things that make carriers and phone makers love).
But most users want it to run out of the box and they do not care about operating systems or rooting or jailbreaking. They want a cheap phone, access to the usual crap, a market to DL stuff, etc.
But most users want it to run out of the box and they do not care about operating systems or rooting or jailbreaking. They want a cheap phone, access to the usual crap, a market to DL stuff, etc.
I apologize if I sounded condescending ...
You are right, 100%
I just have a problem with a vast majority off society whom eats of the spoon of corporate B.S.
I agree, people are entitled to like what they like! All I'm asking is for people to dig a little into what they're buying into rather than just saying "Hey! O.K.! I trust you with my life!" kinda thing.
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