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Old October 4th, 2012, 09:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default The X TABLET is the Next Tablet - You Decide

I'd like to introduce the community to a Android Tablet I have been working on. I have been assisting with apps, root, etc etc The unit is a terrific unit, but I will let you guys see for yourself.
The X TABLET was received with open arms at the 2012 Emmy Awards GBK Gift Lounge.
The stars loved the unit and the eyesawyou app. Each star that posed with it can be seen on the websites News Page the Youtube Video of the event is here -->. X TABLET 2012 GBK Emmy Luxury Gift Lounge - YouTube
Please let me know what you think and the Pre Sales have just started and everyone gets a free leather case you can see in the image below.


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Any too offer to test out, love to give it a test drive for you and write up a review on my findings if you want to send me one,

What are the full specs on the device ??
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Any too offer to test out, love to give it a test drive for you and write up a review on my findings if you want to send me one,

What are the full specs on the device ??
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  1. Cortex - A9 Dual Core 1.5GHz
  2. 9.7” Capacitive IPS (1024 X 768) - Samsung/LG screen this is the same screen used in the iPad 1 and iPad 2.
  3. 1GB RAM
  4. Android OS 4.0
  5. Wi-Fi 802.11
  6. Bluetooth 4.0
  7. 16GB HD (upto 32GB additional)
  8. Webcam 2.0MB
  9. Back Camera 5.0MB
  10. (2) Mini USB Ports
  11. Micro SD Slot (Support 32GB)
  12. HDMI Port - output 1080P
  13. Built-In speakers
  14. Built-In Microphone
  15. Head Phone Port
  16. Power Adapter
  17. (2) Year warranty

Dimensions. 9.56” X 7.47” X .45”
Weight: 22 oz.
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I've used several tablets (typing this on my Prime right now) and would also like to give you any feedback as well.
Is this running stock Android or a custom skin?
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I would love to try this. Can you send me more information?
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Specifications:

  1. Cortex - A9 Dual Core 1.5GHz
  2. 9.7” Capacitive IPS (1024 X 768) - Samsung/LG screen this is the same screen used in the iPad 1 and iPad 2.
  3. 1GB RAM
  4. Android OS 4.0
  5. Wi-Fi 802.11
  6. Bluetooth 4.0
  7. 16GB HD (upto 32GB additional)
  8. Webcam 2.0MB
  9. Back Camera 5.0MB
  10. (2) Mini USB Ports
  11. Micro SD Slot (Support 32GB)
  12. HDMI Port - output 1080P
  13. Built-In speakers
  14. Built-In Microphone
  15. Head Phone Port
  16. Power Adapter
  17. (2) Year warranty

Dimensions. 9.56” X 7.47” X .45”
Weight: 22 oz.
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This looks awesome. I'd love to give one of these a testing.
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Clarify please. Are you the manufacturer? Or when you say you are working on it, you are simply using the product?

If you are a manufacturer in NYC, I can see myself supporting your efforts. If you are just a user, never mind. If you are importing the tablets and trying to sell them, well, good luck, but I can order them by the slow boat load.

More information please.

I went to the FAQ section of the web site and it was not much help.
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This looks awesome. I'd love to give one of these a testing.
They are now available for pre-sale and you receive a free leather case from the website myxtablet.com.
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Clarify please. Are you the manufacturer? Or when you say you are working on it, you are simply using the product?

If you are a manufacturer in NYC, I can see myself supporting your efforts. If you are just a user, never mind. If you are importing the tablets and trying to sell them, well, good luck, but I can order them by the slow boat load.

More information please.

I went to the FAQ section of the web site and it was not much help.
Yes we are the Manufacturers based in NYC.
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Yes we are the Manufacturers based in NYC.
I went to your web site, not much about your operations. I see lots of things about some application you (?) developed, but nothing that says your company physically manufactures tablets which seems rather odd.

I just want the facts. Where is your factory located?

If you are actually, physically manufacturing tablets, you should be very clear about that on your web site because any American made tablet (Hardware, not merely vending some app called "X-Tablet) is BIG NEWS.

My concern is it is not made here, just re-branded and imported.

I would suggest you tell visitors you actually, physically manufacturer these tablets, if you indeed do. Like I said, making tablets here, in this country would be big news. More interesting to more people than which star at the Grammy awards loves the X-Tablet.
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When can/will you physically deliver the products? You post mentions you are taking pre-sale orders, but no firm release date. That makes a difference as well.
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The specs fail to impress now that there's a sea of Android tablets on the market.

  • The CPU is adequate, but no more than that.
  • The SVGA screen is obsolete in an age where HDTV resolutions are the big deal.
  • 1 GiB of RAM, again nothing to crow about.
  • 802.11 what? Mine can do N at 2.4 and 5.8GHz.
  • Bluetooth 4 is nice, if Bluetooth peripherals ever get really popular.
  • Using a mechanical HD instead of flash storage is obsolete.
  • Webcams, check.
  • Having two USB ports is a plus, especially the more rugged mini ones.
  • The 32GB SD card limitation is not good.
  • What kind of audio does the HDMI port support?
The "X" name and logo suggest support for the X Window system. That would be cool, but since you're not touting that as a feature I'm guessing that it's not a feature. Failing that, the last thing I'd want to do is be stuck with something "X" when the letter of the month is "Z". Unlike the Apple faithful, I'm not willing to spend most of my income on the latest thing. The built-in obsolescence of the name could be a problem.

The USB ports are the most promising. But I can't think what USB device I might want to use with a tablet. Even more so because I don't know which version(s) they support.

As a semi-pro shooter (video) who uses "big boy" optics (not tiny phone cameras) I'd rush to buy an Android tablet that had some unique feature like HDMI in, to enable a 1080p screen to display the output from my camcorder. Some other kind of connector, like IEEE-1394, Thunderbolt, or even full speed support for SDXC. How about an audiophile audio section? Something, anything that might separate this from the pack.
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Yes we are the Manufacturers based in NYC.
You actually manufacture the tablet yourselves in NYC, USA? - not a Shenzhen, China OEM? This is interesting.

Here's the thing, what makes me want to buy the X Tablet over the thousands of other 4.0 devices that are available to me? BTW celebrity endorsement doesn't mean anything when I'm buying tech products.
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Lets all give them a chance, that is why reviews are done, does not matter what they say. What matters is what the end user thinks and say. They have not even have them out on the market, lets give them a chance and all be nice. Sometimes specs on a Tablet is not always everything, support matters a whole lot, at least he has made an effort to come here and discuss it and is asking for you to see for yourself. Once out on the market there will be many feedback's. JMO

Plus there is a good chance the editor of Phandroid will be able to submit his findings and give a non bias review, they have been put in contact with each other.
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[LIST][*]The CPU is adequate, but no more than that.[*]The SVGA screen is obsolete in an age where HDTV resolutions are the big deal.[*]1 GiB of RAM, again nothing to crow about.[*]802.11 what? Mine can do N at 2.4 and 5.8GHz.[*]Bluetooth 4 is nice, if Bluetooth peripherals ever get really popular.[*]Using a mechanical HD instead of flash storage is obsolete.
I'm quite sure there isn't mechanical hard-drive in it. AFAIK no Android device has a mechanical HDD, except some Chinese, Android based DVR boxes. I bet the "16GB HD" in the specs was supposed to say "16GB internal storage" or similar.
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You actually manufacture the tablet yourselves in NYC, USA? - not a Shenzhen, China OEM? This is interesting.

Here's the thing, what makes me want to buy the X Tablet over the thousands of other 4.0 devices that are available to me? BTW celebrity endorsement doesn't mean anything when I'm buying tech products.

Let me Clarify this for you guys who misunderstood. We are the Company XTABLET LLC we are Based in New York we are essentially the Manufacturer as you can only get it from us, Everything is designed here and assembled in china same as Apple, HP etc. etc. We Know we have a great Product and we plan to provide numerous other features that at yet to be announced.

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I'm quite sure there isn't mechanical hard-drive in it. AFAIK no Android device has a mechanical HDD, except some Chinese, Android based DVR boxes. I bet the "16GB HD" in the specs was supposed to say "16GB internal storage" or similar.
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Lets all give them a chance, that is why reviews are done, does not matter what they say. What matters is what the end user thinks and say. They have not even have them out on the market, lets give them a chance and all be nice. Sometimes specs on a Tablet is not always everything, support matters a whole lot, at least he has made an effort to come here and discuss it and is asking for you to see for yourself. Once out on the market there will be many feedback's. JMO

Plus there is a good chance the editor of Phandroid will be able to submit his findings and give a non bias review, they have been put in contact with each other.

Thank you Don and I agree it is always the user who is the deciding factor and we look forward to an honest review. We have just finished our 7" Model and also have the Flash Drive size Pocket PC on the way by the end of the month.
We also Pride ourselves on our customer support with Live helpdesk in place as well.

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Let me Clarify this for you guys who misunderstood. We are the Company XTABLET LLC we are Based in New York we are essentially the Manufacturer as you can only get it from us, Everything is designed here and assembled in china same as Apple, HP etc. etc. We Know we have a great Product and we plan to provide numerous other features that at yet to be announced.
So you were not being honest when you said they are made in NYC. I thought we would have something interesting to talk about. Any products made here are cause for celebration and I would have supported you and your effots. Apparently, your product is another basic tablet from a country that apparently makes hundreds of eBay sellers "manufacturers."

Sorry, but importing a private label device does not make you a manufacturer by any stretch of the imagination. And do not compare Apple to yourself. Yes, iPads are made in China but Apple and your company are in no way comparable.

When you hire Foxx, invest hundreds upon hundreds of millions in research, develop an app store and when you require tens of thousands of engineers and production workers to build a clearly great product and you design your own chip sets, we will talk. :rolleyes

You were not telling the truth and that is why people get upset. You should have said you were importing tablets and then tell us what you are offering. That is honest and less likely to piss people off. I think I'll pass because I do not know what other problems you might have hiding in the dark rooms.
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Lets all give them a chance, that is why reviews are done, does not matter what they say. What matters is what the end user thinks and say. They have not even have them out on the market, lets give them a chance and all be nice. Sometimes specs on a Tablet is not always everything, support matters a whole lot, at least he has made an effort to come here and discuss it and is asking for you to see for yourself. Once out on the market there will be many feedback's. JMO

Plus there is a good chance the editor of Phandroid will be able to submit his findings and give a non bias review, they have been put in contact with each other.
Hey, I wish them luck.

Perhaps it will appeal to some folks.

What bothers me is how it was promoted here, on this list. When one is not completely above board and they tell you their products are Made in America and then "clarify" and say no, not made in America, I begin to wonder and I do not like to wonder.
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We all have to start somewhere Bob it wasn't my intention to mislead you, but yes we are based in NYC and you have to come to us to get it..
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You are missing my point. First, I understand you must start somewhere. I love to support American tech manufacturers just starting out. Really, I do.

But I also crave honesty. If it is re-branded, tell us that and tell us why your imported product is better than something else. I might even go for it if the price is right.

Just do not say it is made in NYC when it is not made in NYC.
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You are missing my point. First, I understand you must start somewhere. I love to support American tech manufacturers just starting out. Really, I do.

But I also crave honesty. If it is re-branded, tell us that and tell us why your imported product is better than something else. I might even go for it if the price is right.

Just do not say it is made in NYC when it is not made in NYC.
Bob it is Designed in NYC and assembled in China... Like most companies big or small - everything is practically made in China.
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Bob it is Designed in NYC and assembled in China... Like most companies big or small - everything is practically made in China.
I thank you for you input...
I give up, I guess.

Sorry, but your product is not made in the U.S. of A. Stop trying to argue that it is. You are arguing something few here will agree with. Your own product label apparently says it is not manufactured here, for goodness sakes alive.
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I give up, I guess.

Sorry, but your product is not made in the U.S. of A. Stop trying to argue that it is. You are arguing something few here will agree with. Your own product label apparently says it is not manufactured here, for goodness sakes alive.
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Bob it is Designed in NYC and assembled in China... Like most companies big or small - everything is practically made in China.
I thank you for you input...
I think that's straight forward enough to do. Set up an LLC in NYC, contract with a Shenzhen manufacturer, tell them what specs you want, ports, case design, package design, accessories, branding, custom software etc,. Usually a 30-day or 60-day lead time on custom, minimum order might be 1,000 or 10,000 pieces, pay by LC or TT, a shipping container full of your products arrives in. Now you have to sell them.

Are you OK with your OEM's QA and QC, because often what comes out of Shenzhen can be truly awful. AFAIK there's FCC and UL approvals as well, before you can legally sell a tech product in the US.

Looking at the specs of the X Tablet, I see nothing really new or special here, that's not already coming out of China, that usually sells for $100-$200 retail. I take it you're marketing it on branding, celeb endorsement and whatever special software and customisations your product has?
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I think that's straight forward enough to do. Set up an LLC in NYC, contract with a Shenzhen manufacturer, tell them what specs you want, ports, case design, package design, accessories, branding, custom software etc,. Usually a 30-day or 60-day lead time on custom, minimum order might be 1,000 or 10,000 pieces, pay by LC or TT, a shipping container full of your products arrives in. Now you have to sell them.

Are you OK with your OEM's QA and QC, because often what comes out of Shenzhen can be truly awful. AFAIK there's FCC and UL approvals as well, before you can legally sell a tech product in the US.

Looking at the specs of the X Tablet, I see nothing really new or special here, that's not already coming out of China, that usually sells for $100-$200 retail. I take it you're marketing it on branding, celeb endorsement and whatever special software and customisations your product has?
I would like to see an American made tablet. I know it can be done, but God, what a HUGE effort it would be.
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Old October 6th, 2012, 07:18 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Agreed, but difficult as you well know, this country does not do anything to support and help manufactures to create their products here. One day it will happen, just not sure it will be in my time. But agree would be nice.



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I suspect a tablet could probably be assembled in the US now, probably the case mouldings done there as well, might even be economic. But all of the electronics would almost certainly be Chinese or Korean.

I'm sure there's a lot of electronics made in the US, but AFAICT it's nearly all high-value military and defense stuff. Not low-value consumer electronics, like Android tablets and phones, laptops, TVs, DVD players, etc.

I think companies like Apple, Dell and HP design and develop their products in the US, but then all manufacturing is done here in China. Sometimes even R&D, is done overseas as well in places like India and China. But on the other hand, if it's just some guy in a Brooklyn apartment wants to do his own tablet, He just goes straight to a Shenzhen OEM, who've already done all the R&D for making Android tablets, and tell them what options and branding he wants.
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I suspect a tablet could probably be assembled in the US now, probably the case mouldings done there as well, might even be economic. But all of the electronics would almost certainly be Chinese or Korean.

I'm sure there's a lot of electronics made in the US, but AFAICT it's nearly all high-value military and defense stuff. Not low-value consumer electronics, like Android tablets and phones, laptops, TVs, DVD players, etc.

I think companies like Apple, Dell and HP design and develop their products in the US, but then all manufacturing is done here in China. Sometimes even R&D, is done overseas as well in places like India and China. But on the other hand, if it's just some guy in a Brooklyn apartment wants to do his own tablet, He just goes straight to a Shenzhen OEM, who've already done all the R&D for making Android tablets, and tell them what options and branding he wants.
I will likely start doing some work for L-3 Communications. What a huge manufacturing operation they have here in SLC. There are 6-8 buildings currently, and three more to be built in other areas of the valley. Vast facilities that surprised even me.

If we applied the same criteria to Tablet manufacturing that L-3 requires their people to follow, a high quality product is assured. So we need hungry and clever manufacturers following mil spec criteria and we must demand qualified people that are well trained.

If we can build weapon and communications systems here, an Android tablet is fall off the log easy. I did note from the L-3 annual report, they have a drone control application for the Android phone.

I know we can (I spent years doing it) build blank PC Boards. I once worked pat time for a company that made multi-layer boards for other manufacturers. I also worked for a company that manufactured consumer electronics products, so I know we can do that. The PCB fab plant was owned by the Chinese, I think. That does not matter because the work was done here, by us.

We can build plastic cases, metal cases, everything else needed to make Tablets. We can design chips and I know we can manufacturer components.

So where did we go wrong? A loss of American pride perhaps? My theory is we are building sub-standard employees and manufacturers will always opt for the cheapest parts.

In my search for a job, I have talked to people that simply cannot get qualified people to do simple things. They do not want to say words like "stupid" or "possibly illegal" or dumb asses." So they say unqualified.

I read what Apple had to do to get the iDevices to market. It took tens of thousands of workers and thousands of engineers to get it done. They went to Foxx because they did not have any choice.

My theory is had we ever lost manufacturing capability in this country, we would be build iCrap here because the costs would be low and the work perfect. Apple went to China because we blew it.

I have thought long and hard about Apple/Foxx and I am starting to believe that we could do it here if our leaders were qualified and hell bent on keeping jobs here.

We have the smarts, the people hungry for work and the technology that is second to none. Foreigners just seem to have something we do not have and I am not longer sure where the problem lies.

It ticks me off.
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I'm probably the worst tablet whore here (double digits in the past 1.5-2 yrs). I'm interested in what the price is. I haven't seen that anywhere and that will make and break this device as far as whether I'll consider it.
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I'm probably the worst tablet whore here (double digits in the past 1.5-2 yrs). I'm interested in what the price is. I haven't seen that anywhere and that will make and break this device as far as whether I'll consider it.
According to the website it's $299 bucks. Which seems like a lot of money for this, given the specs. The high price is probably to pay for the Emmy Awards GBK Gift Lounge celebrity endorsements.

BTW a friend in Shenzhen was telling how much Android tablets usually retail for there now. $35 for a 7 inch 4.0 8GB device. And that's the retail price for individual units, nevermind wholesale prices in lots of 10,000.
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If I'm getting into the $300 range I'm going to be inclined to pick a brand name like Asus or Samsung (used of course) over a brand I've never heard of. Personally, in order to get me to adopt a brand I've not heard of the price needs to be magnitudes cheaper than what is out there.
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