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Old October 23rd, 2012, 07:35 AM   #51 (permalink)
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The US Patent Office Has Invalidated Apple's Bounce Scroll Patent

Temporarily
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Temporarily??? someone woke up at the patent office?
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was apple late making their deposits?
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No, still being investigated:
Apple patent wielded against Samsung possibly invalid

However, Dutch court made decision:
Dutch court says Samsung not infringing Apple patent
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Old October 25th, 2012, 09:32 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Now it's the ITC.
This is starting to look like the nonsense with Windows and IE built in.
Samsung loses another big patent case to Apple, this time at ITC | Ars Technica

The US seems to be finding for Apple, and the EU is going the other way.
Sympathy since Apple is American and will lose sales if EU squashes suits, or just plain jingoism?

Watched a commercial for the new Droid. That has rounded corners. So does the BB curve.

Palm had a 3D presentation of the apps list, drawer, whatever you wanted to call it. If you remember Graffiti, you moved the stylus in all directions to form letters. I'd say swiping descended from that.

Just as stupid as Chik-fil-a and Eat mor. Eat more with that spelling, they can patent. But Eat More? Are they going to sue dieticians for saying Eat More fruits and Veggies?
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Old October 26th, 2012, 03:02 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Actually got tired of typing that on my phone.
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I did Mach development for two years. As first released (escaped is a better word) from academia, it had a number of significant bugs (in the endlessly nested manifest constants) and was incapable of real time instrument support, areas that I fixed and modified.

Yes. Mach is a microkernel.
You have my condolences. I heard a lot about Mach (and RISC) from my CS classmates when I was studying EE. At the time I didn't care, but when I got into serious OS support, I began to form my own opinions. I read AST's text on operating systems, and went on to play with Minix at the same time that I was using Linux.

The next time I heard about microkernels and Mach was when Apple was struggling to replace its ancient Mac OS. There were lots of rumors, including that Apple was moving to U of Utah's Mach4 There was so much empty hype back then.

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I'm one of those people who has a pretty good idea how much of an impact that the UNIX® has made on everyone's lives, so when the Open Group says "this is how UNIX® is supposed to be used" I'm more than happy to oblige. IMHO UNIX® deserves a better fate than being reduced to a generic term like Xerox, and am willing to make the extra effort to keep the UNIX® brand alive. I'm also a very unhappy ex-Caldera shareholder.

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And I assure you, OS X is based on the Mach MICROkernel. Before the public release (and in its first public incarnation), the Mach debug messages sang out loud and clear on any console bootup. I saw that quite often, with my own eyes. Pretty hard to mistake a Mach revision print statement.
I get your point, but I can't help but be reminded of when someone found some text about the Regents of the University of California in a MS-DOS file. Sure it proves something, but what?

I'll stipulate that OSX has a history steeped in CMU Mach, but wouldn't say that it's a working 100% microkernel-based system. Likewise, Windows NT was originally supposed to use a microkernel client/server architecture, but what made it to production was a compromise. And ever since, NT-based Windows has been using more and more monolithic technologies to improve performance. Pardon me for not saying with the insight that you have, but to me, removing the latency of state switching needed to pass every single message opens up a CPU to get useful work done.

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As implemented for OS X, I believe that the hybrid is no longer a microkernel, as you say.
I hope I never said that! My understanding is that no OS design that's 100% faithful to the microkernel idea has succeeded in general purpose computing. There may be some embedded application that's ideal for it; I don't know.

My original point was that neither OSX or IOS came from AT&T UNIX®. But that's a tale for another day.
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The Beatles sued Apple Computers around 1978, wayyyy before iTunes was born. But itunes did play a part of being sued further since it involved music.

Did Android copy Apple, let's see.

iPhone just now coming with a large screen.
iPad just now coming with a smaller screen.
iphones & ipads just now getting 4G/LTE

So who's copying who???
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OT. But:
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I'm not sure, Windows have more followers then Apple does. The OS may be a flop but people are going to buy it, mostly through a new computer.

As I always say, buy the latest Windows and get a computer for free!
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Old October 27th, 2012, 07:23 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Not if MS continues with this BS. They've had hairbrained schemes before:
Microsoft plans to replace your actual windows with Windows 8 | Digital Trends

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Old October 27th, 2012, 07:31 AM   #63 (permalink)
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All this nonsense is more about brand loyalty. It makes it easier to market, monitor whatever, (kids, health, energy use) if you so desire, and make big bucks for the company with your business. Judging from the acquisitions of most of the larger companies, they all look like they are trying to become megapolies. That will limit choice eventually - if you choose MS for example, they could dictate their phones only if you want certain conveniences. And penalize you in other ways if you don't.

Segment on this on the PBS Newshour last night.

I don't and won't subscribe to any of it. I feel it limits my choices as to how I want any device to perform, so I'll put up with the inconvenience of 3 different OS.
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Old October 28th, 2012, 04:56 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I'm not sure, Windows have more followers then Apple does. The OS may be a flop but people are going to buy it, mostly through a new computer.

As I always say, buy the latest Windows and get a computer for free!
I am curious to see how Win8 evolves in the professional community, I really don't see IT depts going with the win8 tiles for a home screen.
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Old October 28th, 2012, 05:06 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Re computers:
Phil Schiller says Apple does with its Macs what PC makers are 'afraid' to do

Apple does not have the business computers worldwide that MS does.

Unless 8 increases productivity, or can be tweaked to do so, there will be a big outcry,
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Apparently the UK didn't buy the apology:
UK court orders Apple to rewrite website statement saying Samsung didn't copy the iPad
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I read it when it went up recently. It was pretty self-serving and clearly snarky towards the court there.
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Apple does not have the business computers worldwide that MS does.

Unless 8 increases productivity, or can be tweaked to do so, there will be a big outcry,
What would that be? Drastically overcharge?
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This is mind boggling!

Apple's UK site says Samsung devices 'not as cool' in compliance with court ruling

Why Apple isn't up for contempt charges is beyond me! This is a blatant insult to the judge and court, Apple obviously feels they are above the law and will act however they please.

I wouldn't normally suggest this but I think the time has come for the government to slap Apple down, going so far as to invalidate all patents and make them reapply on a case by case basis.
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 08:21 AM   #70 (permalink)
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The Dutch have also said that Samsung did not copy. The Germans seem to be impartial depending on argument. I've seen some posts about policy in other countries. Since this is trade - I'm wondering if enough consensus between all the EU could ban Apple outright until it satisfied whatever trade policies the EU set. The EU did sue MS over IE, and are at it again with MS.

France is trying to collect tax from Google.
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This is almost a must read.

http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/12kce9/apple_resizes_website_so_that_the_samsung_apology/
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Old November 3rd, 2012, 04:31 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Apparently the first apology didn't fly. Apple ordered to redo it.
Apple fights British law and loses - Sorry seems to be the hardest word | TechEye

Apple must apologise for its surly apology on its website on Saturday ? The Register

If the apology doesn't suit the judge - Apple will have to do it again.. Apple just doesn't want to put Samsung didn't copy in English that everyone can understand.

Apple lost another:
Mexico to Apple: You WILL NOT use the name 'iPhone' here ? The Register
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This is beyond awesome! Somebody finally stood up and let Apple know the law is not their personal plaything and protector and they aren't immune to the law either!
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For The First Time Ever, iPhone Owner Loyalty Declines

Could just be that people are finding the older phones work just as well. Some might not like the interface changes.

Then there's this:
New wireless pricing: more data, bigger bill - SFGate

I've seen articles that seem to prove Apple users use more data. Maybe they are wising up to the fact that all this convenience needs to be paid for.

TMO - Average user - less that 1G, Galaxy 3S 1.8G
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For The First Time Ever, iPhone Owner Loyalty Declines

Could just be that people are finding the older phones work just as well. Some might not like the interface changes.

Then there's this:
New wireless pricing: more data, bigger bill - SFGate

I've seen articles that seem to prove Apple users use more data. Maybe they are wising up to the fact that all this convenience needs to be paid for.

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While I agree a better phone leads to more general satisfaction followed by data usage, part of the story might be 4g/3g.

If someone has 15 minutes to surf for they simply can use more data while on 4g, as better phones also tend to carry better radios. And anyone willing to pay for the latest phone normally won't skimp on a LTE data plan.
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Apple looks to add Samsung's Galaxy Note 10.1, Google's Jelly Bean OS to lawsuit

Just freaking get along! I want a choice and the way of all the suits, countersuits are going, I hope
Maemo or Rim stage a comeback. If Apple gets its way, it will really be insufferable, and if Samsung prevails - so will they.
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Just freaking get along! I want a choice and the way of all the suits, countersuits are going, I hope
Maemo or Rim stage a comeback. If Apple gets its way, it will really be insufferable, and if Samsung prevails - so will they.
Let me guess, they are going to sue because Android has a notification bar...
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Apple fans see Apple as 'drawing inspiration' from other sources but see other sources as 'copying' Apple.
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Nah, Apple needs the money to keep paying off other suits it loses. And why not make a profit while you are at it.
Apple ordered to pay $368.2M for patent infringement in FaceTime | Ars Technica

Somebody had to hire a lawyer in Mexico to try to go against Ifone, which is the Mexican service.
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Who-copied-who is an everlasting topic since no brand exists alone, they are all `inspired` by each other. In any case, Android does differ from iOS - and it is great since there is choice.
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