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Old November 4th, 2012, 03:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone else reading all of the reviews knowing full well they'll buy the N4 whatever they say?
Just me?
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I'm doing it too, the wait is driving me nuts!
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If they decide to release a Verizon version, I'll buy it at full retail. Otherwise I'm sitting tight with my G-Nex. No phones other nexus brands for me. I learned that lesson the hard way.
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If they decide to release a Verizon version, I'll buy it at full retail. Otherwise I'm sitting tight with my G-Nex. No phones other nexus brands for me. I learned that lesson the hard way.
Me too... I thought I was upgrading my Nexus S going to the GSII. Didn't take me long to realize my mistake. I'll never get another non Nexus phone, or tablet. Going to be getting the Nexus 10 after the holidays. I've been holding out upgrading my iPad for a long time waiting on Google to make a 10" tablet.
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The Transformer Infinity tab is the one exception because of that keyboard dock and ASUS is fairly good about updates as it is. Though I admit if I didn't already have that, there would be a 32GB Nexus 10 tab with my name on it.
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I'm fiening for the nexus 4,..ill probably just stare at the f***er, maybe 2 hrs just looking at the box, then another 2 when I pull the cover off,..then ill decide if I should keep the plastics on the front and back,..but ill probably won't get to that because they'll be a shining light coming down on the phone as I lift it up out the box and just....stare at it...wondering where its been my whole life, like pulling the sword out of that rock or finishing that 1 game that took so long to beat...in my case its running 11.3 in the 1/4 mile after finishing my Holset hx35 ka24 build
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I'm fiening for the nexus 4,..ill probably just stare at the f***er, maybe 2 hrs just looking at the box, then another 2 when I pull the cover off,..then ill decide if I should keep the plastics on the front and back,..but ill probably won't get to that because they'll be a shining light coming down on the phone as I lift it up out the box and just....stare at it...wondering where its been my whole life, like pulling the sword out of that rock or finishing that 1 game that took so long to beat...in my case its running 11.3 in the 1/4 mile after finishing my Holset hx35 ka24 build
Not me. Mine will be unlocked and rooted as soon as it arrives
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Anyone have thoughts on the Nov. 13th release date? Do you think pre orders will begin sometime that day, or do you think that it will be the first day you can actually buy the device from the play store?
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I wish they would open up pre-orders now so I could actually get the device delivered to me on the 13th instead of buying the device on the 13th and getting it delivered on the 16th... I'm impatient.
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Anyone have thoughts on the Nov. 13th release date? Do you think pre orders will begin sometime that day, or do you think that it will be the first day you can actually buy the device from the play store?
I think that's the day they'll open up orders. At the moment you can only register interest
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I'm going to order from Google Play or CPW or O2 UK - whoever has it first. Obviously if it is in stock retail the day Google put in on Play I'll go to the shop.
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I'm going to order from Google Play or CPW or O2 UK - whoever has it first. Obviously if it is in stock retail the day Google put in on Play I'll go to the shop.
CPW is offering it at steep prices considering the price on Google Play as with the Spanish retailer which backed out.
31/ month for the Nexus 4 at best! No way.
Similarly priced SIM free are 15 - 20/ month on contract.

O2 haven't released pricing yet, wonder what they'll do.

Either way I'm getting it straight from Google
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Would nexus 4 on google play have a black Friday discount?..sounds impossible but im just wondering
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Would nexus 4 on google play have a black Friday discount?..sounds impossible but im just wondering
At $300 for the 8GB model I can't imagine Google is making a profit. Besides, this is the internet. If anything, check for a deal on Cyber Monday (the Monday after Black Friday).

Really all we can do is speculate, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Anyone else reading all of the reviews knowing full well they'll buy the N4 whatever they say?
Just me?
Yeah, i read the reviews and can't seem to buy into the "negatives". No LTE, no problem. If you're on Verizon or Sprint you can't use this phone yet anyways. Besides...

$299 unlocked, $30/month tMobile HSPA+ with a phone that matches top-specs and gets instant updates
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$100-$299 locked, $80+/month (for 2 years) 4GLTE with a phone that comes with bloatware and late updates

No brainer.

glass back... people HATED the S3 when it came out because it was plastic.

no expandable memory or removable battery... this sounds good in theory but the majority of cell phone users don't swap out battery's and SD cards. From iPhones to HTC... i had a Note, currently have an S3 and don't own an SD card or spare battery. Chargering is pretty easy to come by for most.

Give me top-of-the-line specs, a good looking phone and timely updates and I may be able to curb my cell phone lust for more than a month or two.
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Yeah, I think this phone will keep me happy for a while... Until the next Nexus. I think hardware advances are going to slow down a little, so with the timely, non-bloated software updates this phone should easily last a year or 2.

Plus after having the GSII, I have no desire to ever have a non Nexus Android phone again.
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I think I'll upgrade to the Nexus 4's redheaded stepbrother: Optimus G.
If the off-chance, a Nexus 4 will be released to Sprint in the next year, I'll just swap it out.
Doubtful so not expecting it. My Nexus S is nice and smooth but it's half gig of RAM just isn't cutting it.
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My Nexus S is nice and smooth but it's half gig of RAM just isn't cutting it.
Should try chugging along on my 30 month old HTC Legend!!
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Any word on a car dock for the Nexus 4? I've searched for any rumour at all, but all I get is hits for Samsung Galaxy and iPhone ... and a thread on XDA speculating that it should be possible to pull off wireless charging and automatic switching car mode courtesy of the NFC chip. Sweet idea, no?

I want this phone -- but I NEED a car dock for it!

To be clear, I wouldn't mind a wired dock, but I would like it to be a one-handed affair. For my current HTC Desire Z, I'm using (oddly enough) a dock for a Motorola Droid X, because for the Desire Z the only option is a generic mount where you first have to attach the phone to the mount, then the power cable to the phone. That, in my mind, is not a dock.
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Any word on a car dock for the Nexus 4? I've searched for any rumour at all, but all I get is hits for Samsung Galaxy and iPhone ... and a thread on XDA speculating that it should be possible to pull off wireless charging and automatic switching car mode courtesy of the NFC chip. Sweet idea, no?

I want this phone -- but I NEED a car dock for it!
Will a universal car dock not work? Like this
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Yes it "would work", but it would be more hassle than I'd care for. See above, I'm looking for a true "dock", not a simple mount with or without separate power.
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Yeah I'd really like something that supports the wireless charging and uses the magnet to hold the phone up and nothing else. It'd be so nice to just place it up there and not have to do anything to secure the phone to the dock, kind of like how I do now with PuGoo but I won't have to wash it every week and it'll charge the phone.
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What happens to your phone being held by a magnet and you have an emergancy swerve or brake or wreck? Doesn't sound safe to me.
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I hate you google.

There I was, checking out the Nexus 4, thinking it was a very nice device but was too similar to my GNex to worry about upgrading, then bam, they come out with the price. If I trade in my GNex this thing is going to hardly cost anything. I hope I can resist.

With regard to the operators, this is really going to piss them off (well in the UK anyway, can't speak for the US and their disgusting oligopoly). The profit is tying new customers into a new contract for 18 - 24 months, now what incentive is there. As stated above, I see it's being offered for free from CPW on a 31 month tariff for 24 months.

That's 744, 600 minutes, data not specified, but I suspect would be 500MB. My 10 a month tariff gives me comparable usage and I can buy the phone for 280. Total cost over 24 months - 520. You'd have to be stupid to sign up to that.
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I would love a dock that has built in wireless charging, I really don't expect one to be made that will work for though.

I've tried a few docks and none work in my Jeep except a heavy duty one I found on eBay. Every other one I tried either falls off my windshield or my phone falls out or both. Not exactly a smooth ride with my off road tires, but I love it and wouldn't trade it for anything. So, I'll just be keeping my current dock.


On another note, got some great news at the Tmobile store. I stopped in the store to see if they would give me any better deal since BestBuy was going to give me a $50 gift card with each upgrade. They said because of my plan I automatically get a $50 mail in rebate with every phone (so $149 per phone), plus they might be able to give me a discount that day since I am upgrading 3 lines this month. Plus, the store I went to can sell them on the 13th if they come in a day early. Oh, almost forgot... They are also going to give me my unlock codes that day so I will have unlocked phones
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There I was, checking out the Nexus 4, thinking it was a very nice device but was too similar to my GNex to worry about upgrading, then bam, they come out with the price. If I trade in my GNex this thing is going to hardly cost anything. I hope I can resist.

With regard to the operators, this is really going to piss them off (well in the UK anyway, can't speak for the US and their disgusting oligopoly). The profit is tying new customers into a new contract for 18 - 24 months, now what incentive is there. As stated above, I see it's being offered for free from CPW on a 31 month tariff for 24 months.

That's 744, 600 minutes, data not specified, but I suspect would be 500MB. My 10 a month tariff gives me comparable usage and I can buy the phone for 280. Total cost over 24 months - 520. You'd have to be stupid to sign up to that.
Why would you try to resist if it would cost you hardly anything? I say go for it, but sell the G Nex soon before everyone hears how cheap the N4 is.

The UK has an oligopoly too with only 3 providers of 2G, 4 providers of 3G and only 1 provider of 4G, plus a load of carriers that use their networks.
US contracts are a lot more expensive because of lower population density so increased need to spend more on their networks.

LG is selling the N4 at really expensive prices to everyone except Google, that's why they're so expensive at CPW. I'm on a 10/ month contract with Three and get 1GB of data! Not bad
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What happens to your phone being held by a magnet and you have an emergancy swerve or brake or wreck? Doesn't sound safe to me.
A brake wouldn't do anything because the phone is facing the back of the car so it would only get pushed harder into the magnet. I am hoping here that the magnet is strong enough that it wouldn't fall off if I swerved or hit a pot hole or something. Guess I'll find out the hard way lol
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The UK has an oligopoly too with only 3 providers of 2G, 4 providers of 3G and only 1 provider of 4G, plus a load of carriers that use their networks.
US contracts are a lot more expensive because of lower population density so increased need to spend more on their networks.
True, I should have added, the US networks appear to be operating in tacit collusion to keep prices artificially high. This, together with less intervention from a regulatory body, means prices are higher and choice is more restricted. I take on board the point about population density, but there's no denying the US telecoms requires much stronger regulation.

Anyway, sorry to go off track, this thread is about the Nexus 4. Yay the Nexus 4, I want one.
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True, I should have added, the US networks appear to be operating in tacit collusion to keep prices artificially high. This, together with less intervention from a regulatory body, means prices are higher and choice is more restricted. I take on board the point about population density, but there's no denying the US telecoms requires much stronger regulation.

Anyway, sorry to go off track, this thread is about the Nexus 4. Yay the Nexus 4, I want one.
For a single person to have a smartphone in the US it is approximately $100 a month with AT&T or Verizon, $85 a month with Sprint, and $60 - $80 a month with T-Mobile on a 2 year contract.

With prepaid options through T-Mobile, subsidiaries of Sprint, or other companies that run off of T-Mobile or AT&T's networks you can get away with $25 - $50 a month off contract.

What are prices like in the UK?
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I'm excited for this phone and I am content with 8GB I only use some apps and I am more of a classic emulator guy (NES, PS1, etc) so that's plenty of storage for me and I listen to a little music here and there. My worry is that it will sell out fast and be weeks of waiting, hope they made enough for lil old me
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I'm excited for this phone and I am content with 8GB I only use some apps and I am more of a classic emulator guy (NES, PS1, etc) so that's plenty of storage for me and I listen to a little music here and there. My worry is that it will sell out fast and be weeks of waiting, hope they made enough for lil old me
They'll sale out for sure, but as long as you put up that money on the 13th then your good to go. I don't know if they'll do it at midnight or not. In a way your going to have to be a little pressed to make sure you get yours. Or pre-order from Negrielectronics right now. But it'll cost more from them. Your safe with Google
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For a single person to have a smartphone in the US it is approximately $100 a month with AT&T or Verizon, $85 a month with Sprint, and $60 - $80 a month with T-Mobile on a 2 year contract.

With prepaid options through T-Mobile, subsidiaries of Sprint, or other companies that run off of T-Mobile or AT&T's networks you can get away with $25 - $50 a month off contract.

What are prices like in the UK?
Well in my case I have a 12 month contract, SIM-only, i.e. no handset tie in, 10 a month (~$15). For that I get 300 mins to any network, unlimited SMS and 1GB of data per month.

In the case of a decent subsidized smartphone, you're looking at around 30 - 40 ($50 - $65) a month for the same sort of usage tariff, perhaps with an upfront payment for the top of the range handsets, maybe 50 - 150.

Just picking 02 (a mid-range operator) and the Galaxy S3 as an example, 36 ($58) a month, 50 upfront for the phone, unlimited calls, unlimited sms, 1GB data, 24 month contract.

Also worth noting, Consumer Prices in the UK are on average 29% higher than the US. So this seems to be bucking that trend.
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Hi all, thought I'd introduce myself...

I am new to the forum and have been reading all the Nexus 4 threads with interest over the last couple of days.

I've been an iPhone user since the 3G and I've been pretty happy with them - I do like to think i've been pragmatic on the strengths and weaknesses of all the phones I meet including Apple's shiny slabs.

I have decided to move to Android and I really like the look of the Nexus 4, not least for being vanilla OS.

So i'll be lurking in here quite a lot

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ps, although I still get lost in android, I did buy my sons nook tablets from the US, rooted them and got them up and running with Google play, etc, so i'm a bit up from noob.
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Hi all, thought I'd introduce myself...

I am new to the forum and have been reading all the Nexus 4 threads with interest over the last couple of days.

I've been an iPhone user since the 3G and I've been pretty happy with them - I do like to think i've been pragmatic on the strengths and weaknesses of all the phones I meet including Apple's shiny slabs.

I have decided to move to Android and I really like the look of the Nexus 4, not least for being vanilla OS.

So i'll be lurking in here quite a lot

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ps, although I still get lost in android, I did buy my sons nook tablets from the US, rooted them and got them up and running with Google play, etc, so i'm a bit up from noob.
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For a single person to have a smartphone in the US it is approximately $100 a month with AT&T or Verizon, $85 a month with Sprint, and $60 - $80 a month with T-Mobile on a 2 year contract.

With prepaid options through T-Mobile, subsidiaries of Sprint, or other companies that run off of T-Mobile or AT&T's networks you can get away with $25 - $50 a month off contract.

What are prices like in the UK?
Yeah, I am on the Monthly 4G at Tmo and I am only paying $30 a month (100 minutes, unlimited data, unlimited texting). It was worth the $300 ETF I paid ATT to get out of my contract there, I have pretty much saved enough each month to cover that already in the last 6 months. Plus I never really talk on the phone much anyway, and if I do it is usually with google voice (free).
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Just ordered my Straight Talk micro sim.

Step 1 is complete.
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Emailed Three for a micro SIM a few days ago "We will reply within 24 hours"

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Hey all, about to order tMobile's 99cent micro SIM so I have it for the arrival of my Nexus 4 and $30/pre-paid plan. Just want to make sure I'm not automatically singing up for anything yet. I obviously have to sign up for a plan once I get it, but just finalizing the card to be shipped doesn't lock me into anything, correct?

It says $0.00 all over the invoice, first month due, activation, etc... the only charge is the 0.99 for the card. So I think I'm good, just want to double check.
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Hey all, about to order tMobile's 99cent micro SIM so I have it for the arrival of my Nexus 4 and $30/pre-paid plan. Just want to make sure I'm not automatically singing up for anything yet. I obviously have to sign up for a plan once I get it, but just finalizing the card to be shipped doesn't lock me into anything, correct?

It says $0.00 all over the invoice, first month due, activation, etc... the only charge is the 0.99 for the card. So I think I'm good, just want to double check.
You won't be locked into anything. They are just sending you a micro SIM and. Regular sized SIM. You sign up for the plan later. I just relieved my .99 cent SIM activation kit from T-Mobile the other day.
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You won't be locked into anything. They are just sending you a micro SIM and. Regular sized SIM. You sign up for the plan later. I just relieved my .99 cent SIM activation kit from T-Mobile the other day.
Great, thank you.

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Grr. Figures I have a meeting early Tuesday am. Hoping Google puts it up for sale at midnight. But not gonna get my hopes up.
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Grr. Figures I have a meeting early Tuesday am. Hoping Google puts it up for sale at midnight. But not gonna get my hopes up.
I have work at 10. I can deal with it not being a midnight release, as long as it happens in the first 10 hours of the day lol. Knowing my luck it'll come out at 11 AM and be sold out by the time I get off work. Here's to hoping Google didn't underestimate demand on this phone!
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CPW is offering it at steep prices considering the price on Google Play as with the Spanish retailer which backed out.
31/ month for the Nexus 4 at best! No way.
Similarly priced SIM free are 15 - 20/ month on contract.

O2 haven't released pricing yet, wonder what they'll do.

Either way I'm getting it straight from Google
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I don't understand why the N4 is not up for preorder on Google Play? Once again Google Play buyers will receive their phone after high street shoppers.
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Dont no if i am allowed to make one or what the requirements are but i feel this phone deserves its own watering hole.

So i guess ill start by saying im getting one and by asking who else is going to splash some cash for this device?

Come on in guys kick up your feet and have some fun.
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Just 3 days unitil release. Excited??
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I cannot get one because I am under contract with VZW and don't want to lose my unlimited LTE. If I wasn't under contract I might get one. That said, I do have a GNex and a Nexus 7, so I am doing pretty good in terms of devices.

Congrats on the watering hole. Hope you get a crowd!

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Hope so too but i have a feeling since lg make the phone it wont be half as popular as the galaxy nexus
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