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Old November 6th, 2012, 06:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So this is interesting and I truly believe it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ym17AfN8qc&feature=related

A woman long ago with a cell, walking down the street. Must be a magic phone. No cell towers needed.

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Old November 6th, 2012, 06:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Still had better coverage than Sprint.....
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Yeah.. It is interesting.. It was posted a year ago

Time-traveller caught on film using a cell phone in the '20s?
Looks like the original link to same video has been removed.
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Yep, that's Dr. Who's mother...
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Anyone see this comment: How in the world would someone get a connection back then when there were no cell towers?

Amazing.

A bunch of people have agreed with it as well!

If time travel were possible, it wouldn't only be possible from right now! I'm pretty sure if this person had the technology to time travel, the need for cell towers from whenever they came from may have diminished a tad.
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Time travel? Really folks? For heavens sake, are people gullible. It's OBVIOUSLY a subspace communicator given to her by aliens. Sheeesh.
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Reminds me of that Stephen King book where he forgets and brings his cell phone in his pocket when he goes into the past lol.
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I can't see what she is holding, so I'll just jump to the conclusion that it is a cell phone.
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The best argument against time travel is that the earth is constantly rotating on it's axis and revolving around the sun. If you only travel an hour in time, the earth will have rotated approximately 1040 miles and revolved 67,000 miles away, so you'd end up adrift in space. So next time you look up and see a bright meteor, it might be a time traveler, left floating in Earth's orbit until we come back around.
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Old November 13th, 2012, 03:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The best argument against time travel is that the earth is constantly rotating on it's axis and revolving around the sun. If you only travel an hour in time, the earth will have rotated approximately 1040 miles and revolved 67,000 miles away, so you'd end up adrift in space. So next time you look up and see a bright meteor, it might be a time traveler, left floating in Earth's orbit until we come back around.
Speed around the galactic core and then within our local cluster is nothing to sneeze at either. Therefore, the fastest form of space travel won't be by speeding up, it'll be by slowing down.

And because what goes around comes around is a universal truth, we'll be able to travel anywhere we want using this method.

I think that you're not 100% right though about time travel. I've found that just by laying on the couch, and blinking, I can travel hours into the future.
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The best argument against time travel is that the earth is constantly rotating on it's axis and revolving around the sun. If you only travel an hour in time, the earth will have rotated approximately 1040 miles and revolved 67,000 miles away, so you'd end up adrift in space.
if you are serious...

That is just a really bad argument against time-travel.
if you travel back or forward in time... everything in the cosmos would be put in it right spot for that time. .. other than you and anything else that traveled with you.
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Old November 13th, 2012, 03:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I'll have what he's having.
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I've just come back from the future to see how this thread ends, but I've been cautioned by the temporal authorities not to reveal anything or i could set up a dangerous paradox.
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I think that argument, unlike mine, was very serious.

Space and time are not two different things.

If you time travel and stay in the same relative location, say, just outside the local pub, you can be required to space travel at or above light speed, depending on how much time we're talking about.

If you look at time travel as not including space travel, you'll end up somewhere else.

Hopefully closer to my pub, so you can buy me a beer.
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Okay, I just went back to the future to confirm that I can't reveal any details about the future of this thread, but I am permitted to tell you the the temporal review panel is made up of 12 Mayans.
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Did you bring me back a Mayan burger??
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Did you bring me back a Mayan burger??
I dropped it off at your pub and bought you a beer. You thoroughly enjoyed it, too.

Oh wait, that is next week.
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the movie .."Looper"

if you travel back in time and appear before me.. i will have to kill you!
now, the question is .. where would I go get paid.
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We are all traveling in time, so apparently, it is not only possible, but no way to avoid it.

then there were the two syncronized clocks--one remained on Earth and the other traveled in a plane. Time passed differently, so in a way, TT is possible. You head out into space for a year, at near the speed on light or there abouts. When you return, the iPad 12 is out and your ex-wives are long gone.

Apparently, if you visit the Great Pyramid in Egypt and you stand right up against the structutre, time passes differently for you than those passing by. So Go to Egypt and fiddle with time.
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I dropped it off at your pub and bought you a beer. You thoroughly enjoyed it, too.

Oh wait, that is next week.
I came back to see you, but all I got was a crappy T-Shirt. I will not do it again. I bought you a beer before you arrived but you drank it after you left and when I returned you stuck me with last week's tab that I was not going to pay untill I traveled forward to avoid running a tab.
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The thing is, suppose you went back in time and gave Bill Gates some startup capital. You think, I'll get rich from the stock. So now he has the money he wanted to use to start a different kind of company and there is no MS.

Not sure how to play it safe if you can travel in time. You never really know what will happen.

I am reminded of an episode of Night Court. Something about time travel always remained in my mind. The short version is Dan Fielding sees himself lying in the lobby. It is raining out side and so Dan decideds to escape using the fire escape.

Someone was after him, as I recall. Wanted him dead as I recall.

One of the other cast members poses this question: Did you die because you were shot, or did you die because you fell off the fire escape and they dragged your body inside?
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I came back to see you, but all I got was a crappy T-Shirt. I will not do it again. I bought you a beer before you arrived but you drank it after you left and when I returned you stuck me with last week's tab that I was not going to pay untill I traveled forward to avoid running a tab.
I hate when that happened.
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I think that you're not 100% right though about time travel. I've found that just by laying on the couch, and blinking, I can travel hours into the future.
Of course you are talking about sleep, but that brings up another issue. As in the 1960 movie The Time Machine as Rod Taylor travels thru time he watches things change around him swiftly. Of course the reciprocal is true, anyone who viewing him, he would appear dead. If he watched a month pass by in the blink of an eye, to anyone viewing him, that blink would take a month to occur, as a beat of the heart....looks dead to me. I wonder how many time travelers have been buried alive?
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Of course you are talking about sleep, but that brings up another issue. As in the 1960 movie The Time Machine as Rod Taylor travels thru time he watches things change around him swiftly. Of course the reciprocal is true, anyone who viewing him, he would appear dead. If he watched a month pass by in the blink of an eye, to anyone viewing him, that blink would take a month to occur, as a beat of the heart....looks dead to me. I wonder how many time travelers have been buried alive?
Would they not wonder why the months old body not smell?? Or decay?

And if you travel back in time.. What do people see of you??
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I love the scene out of "Paul" where he's jumping back and forth across the time zone line and he looks up and says "If you think about it, it's time travel..."
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I'm surprised that nobody has brought up the point that time is just the measurement of vibrations at STP (standard temperature and pressure). You know, theory of relativity and whatnot. So as one contributor said, and another inadvertently touched on, slowing down is time travel into the future. But slowing down in a very specific way, slowing down the vibrations of the atomic material that we're made of. In other words, freezing ourselves. So like the movie, everybody would see us as we "travel." But, being frozen, we wouldn't see them. Also, would we survive it? But traveling backward wouldn't work the same way.
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Would they not wonder why the months old body not smell?? Or decay?

And if you travel back in time.. What do people see of you??
Most bodies are buried immediately after death. That's why I speculated about time travelers being presumed dead. How would you know if a body is not decaying or smells when it's six feet under?

Traveling back would work the same way. I guess if someone stumbled upon your "lifeless body" during it's travel backwards, you'd be destine to a forward time travelers fate. Of course if someone finds you just before your journey ends, you'd appear dead then alive. Freak out anyone. Planning would be key, you don't want anyone finding you during your journey.

Of course "The Time Machine" form of time travel is the least likely form. A worm hole or Einstein-Rosen bridge where you fold spacetime and use the shortcut to get from place/time to place/time would seem more likely. You'd avoid the 'motionless for years' effect that HG Wells fiction posses and the time travel without space travel conundrum that would leave you floating in space..

Until my future self walks up to me, I'll remain skeptical about any time travel theories.
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All I know is if any of you do manage time travel, send me some good lottery picks if you think about it. thanks in advance.
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Wouldn't you have already won?

Best scene about time travel is in the Big Bang where they agree that if either of them invent time travel they return to exactly that moment. After a pause, Sheldon says ... "that was a disappointment."
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It must be true. It's on YouTube.
Not only that, they did it on Star Trek a few times. That alone should erase all doubt.
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Time travel. That's it.

It explains the puddin' heads on the road around me. They're from a future time when transportation is driver-less... and they're free to eat, put on makeup, text, talk AND read - all at the same time - without all that "driving" stuff. Now they're back here, bugging me to no end on the road.

GO HOME, PEOPLE! And leave me the next 20 years' Superbowl scores on the way out

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Time travel. That's it.

It explains the puddin' heads on the road around me. They're from a future time when transportation is driver-less... and they're free to eat, put on makeup, text, talk AND read - all at the same time - without all that "driving" stuff. Now they're back here, bugging me to no end on the road.

GO HOME, PEOPLE! And leave me the next 20 years' Superbowl scores on the way out

I've seen folks driving on the parkway here in the Burgh while eating a bowl of cereal. Swear to god, the guy was holding the bowl and using the back of his hand to steer.

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Here's a related question then.
If you could, would you travel forward or backward in time, and what would you do?
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Travel forward, get universal translator and invisibility shield with optional Truly-Silent flight module, then travel back and quietly see what really happened in history.
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Travel forward, get universal translator and invisibility shield with optional Truly-Silent flight module, then travel back and quietly see what really happened in history.
Good idea. I want to know what REALLY happened with that darn Mrs. O'Leary and her troublesome bovine.

And if some of you want to know what bovine are/a bovine is: the biological subfamily Bovinae includes a diverse group of 10 genera of medium to large-sized ungulates.

I think it is far too tempting to fiddle with history. That said, I think I would like to try. I suggest some sort of History Re-historizer to put things back in proper order. Would that be an Anti-histomine?

That said, perhaps it is our destiny to fiddle about with history and our future history might be screwed up if someone did NOT fiddle with history.

Now my little brain hurts!

Anyway . . . Early is in charge. I simply cannot be trusted. As a few of you know, if you have already traveled into the future.

Anyway, bring me back a DVD of what really happened at the meeting in Runnymeade. And a T-Shirt. If you guess the wrong size, take it back to the future and exchange it. Remember, I'll know after you go what you did before you did it.
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Old November 19th, 2012, 05:15 PM   #40 (permalink)
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WOW . . . how tempting it would be to avoid the mistakes. Then again, perhaps the mistakes you made in the past...despite how bad they were... made you what you are today.

That is the trouble with TT. One must be very careful. Reference: the often cited Butterfly Effect.

I would go back in time and buy better shoes; these are killing me.

As for the future, I might toss caution to the wind and travel 12,000 years out. But that presents a problem: suppose the earth is a giant cinder or one of Justin Bieber's relatives is the Planetary King? I hope we can get a DVD before we depart.

If we progress, give up the bickering and BS and let people shine, we would see some amazing tech. Or people learn in 2307 that tech and the web are killing us so all tech is banned and we all live in harmony with nature or some silly thing like that.

So . . . if I can go to the future, I vote for 12,000 or so.

If in the past, I want to hunt the extinct Snuffleopolis and marry me a cave woman. Perhaps invent the wheel in my spare time.
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That is why I'd never go backwards. No matter what, everything I've ever done has brought me to this point, and I'd never do anything to possibly take away my wife and 4 boys, which I can never imagine a day without.
So I guess it's off to the future for me, maybe 300 plus years. I gotta take at least one trip on the Enterprise.
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I'd rather take a trip on "The Longshot" and chill with Nessus.

Yeah, the future for me. As long as I can get back and see my kids, it's all gravy.
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I'd travel back in time 2 seconds and slap myself for what I was thinking.
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i would not go back.. because the whole butterfly effect thing...

i would travel into the future.. at least 100 years.. just to stay away from myself.. no accidental paradox issues. I dont want to know things about me. since plan is to changing my future.

i would go 200 yrs forward... grab an sports almanac (cant do to much damage with that) and a few tech devices (communication device being one of them), things that i can easily put in a small bag.

come back and make bets here and there.. to make easy money.

start a small tech company to reverse engineer the devices and its tech.

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So if you bring secrets from the future and use them, you're going to butterfly effect the future and things may not go as you planned.

As for changing history, I've done it all my life, no big deal.

That brings up an interesting point. How much money could you make on extortion? Gimme a suitcase of cash or I'll go back and prevent your parents from meeting.

Pretty soon everyone would be after you but you could just hide in time.
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So if you bring secrets from the future and use them, you're going to butterfly effect the future and things may not go as you planned.

As for changing history, I've done it all my life, no big deal.

That brings up an interesting point. How much money could you make on extortion? Gimme a suitcase of cash or I'll go back and prevent your parents from meeting.

Pretty soon everyone would be after you but you could just hide in time.
Interesting point. Please do not prevent Herb and Sue from meeting . . . I implore you. I'll be good, I promise. I would like you to prevent a few people's parents from meeting if you have the time, however. I'll send you a list.

Suppose you go back in time and "invent" Google or FB or the technology for freezing peas before Clarence. Are you a thief or could you be considered a thief for "stealing" something we know will be eventually invented?

Hmmm . . .

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i would not go back.. because the whole butterfly effect thing...

i would travel into the future.. at least 100 years.. just to stay away from myself.. no accidental paradox issues. I dont want to know things about me. since plan is to changing my future.

i would go 200 yrs forward... grab an sports almanac (cant do to much damage with that) and a few tech devices (communication device being one of them), things that i can easily put in a small bag.

come back and make bets here and there.. to make easy money.

start a small tech company to reverse engineer the devices and its tech.

kill APPLE
"Cant do much damage with that..." is just what they say in all time travel movies and we all know what happens in the TT movies. Dr. Who has to bail the planet out of trouble.

How do you know the tech you reverse engineer was not destined to be reverse engineered by you in the first place? I can't parse TT thinking because so many what-ifs and "suppose I do this or that's" arise.
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Naw, you would know the slap was coming and you would duck. That said, you would know that you would duck and perhaps not slap yourself in the first place, thereby upsetting the TT continuum and we all know what that can cause.

Do not waste TT. It is not a toy; it is a tool for serious empire building. I would "invent" all sorts of stuff and become the world's very first multi-trillionaire.
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Naw, spend a year downloading thousands of patent files and patent the products yourself. Invent Google and FaceBook, but forget about MySpace.

Grab a few hundred e-books and submit them to the publishers that originally published them. Write Harry Potter, for God's sake!. :

If you make a mistake, go back in time and do not do whatever you did in the first place and try it again when the past EarlyMon sends the future you a message to tell you when you are in the past and travel to the future, do not do whatever you did whenever you did it. Become a Trillionaire.

And do us all a favor and invent a reasonably priced flying car. The idiots that merely predict the future promised us flying cars and they are big, fat liars.
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So if you bring secrets from the future and use them, you're going to butterfly effect the future and things may not go as you planned.

As for changing history, I've done it all my life, no big deal.

That brings up an interesting point. How much money could you make on extortion? Gimme a suitcase of cash or I'll go back and prevent your parents from meeting.

Pretty soon everyone would be after you but you could just hide in time.
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"Cant do much damage with that..." is just what they say in all time travel movies and we all know what happens in the TT movies. Dr. Who has to bail the planet out of trouble.

How do you know the tech you reverse engineer was not destined to be reverse engineered by you in the first place? I can't parse TT thinking because so many what-ifs and "suppose I do this or that's" arise.

yes.. from my point of view (which is the only one that counts).

i am changing the future.. which has not been written in stone...
billions of paths lie ahead.. but only one is behind us.
I am choosing the path that my present self will take...


and since it COULD be that I was destined to "invent" these things any ways.. "it all good!"
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