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Old January 17th, 2013, 06:56 PM   #101 (permalink)
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I agree with all of your points.

Although I feel that we will try to put put a Moon base before we go to other planets. It makes the most sense, people can actually come back from the Moon, as opposed to how hard it would be to get people back from Mars.
Aside from fine details, one does not preclude the other.

None of which matters in the face of that whiny kid representing stud muffins everywhere in near space.

I solemnly promise, on behalf of the Solar Federation, that that doesn't represent what space babes have to expect.

Mostly. You know.

BTW, I am looking good. Just saying.
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Early, that's true. I don't see the moon being used as a staging area to get to Mars. Although, the fact that we could put the technology to good testing on the moon before we go all the way to Mars. Plus then there is a point of return.
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All this talk about the moon making better sense for a first try than Mars has made me wonder: WHY did Mars get picked? It's so obvious that the moon would be much more practical and feasible, in so many ways--not the least of which is the ability to RETURN to Earth--it makes me wonder why they're not going there instead.
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The moon doesn't have oxygen.
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That's not the point. We KNOW that humans can go to the moon, AND return home unharmed. The hostile environment on Mars is a million times more challenging than the moon, so why not do this colonization thing on the moon first?
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Probably as its essentially a huge Barron rock while apparently mars has the potential to be more than a desert.
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All this talk about the moon making better sense for a first try than Mars has made me wonder: WHY did Mars get picked? It's so obvious that the moon would be much more practical and feasible, in so many ways--not the least of which is the ability to RETURN to Earth--it makes me wonder why they're not going there instead.
Unless there's an accidental nuclear explosion on the moon that knocks it out of earth's orbit and into deep space.
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Unless there's an accidental nuclear explosion on the moon that knocks it out of earth's orbit and into deep space.
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I'd love to see lunar colonies. I don't take our ability to go to the moon for granted.

Today, we've lost the imperatives that drove the earlier programs, and projects cost more to produce less and take longer. In the 60s, our booster technology was tied to the cold war effort, and astronauts flew machines that are downright crude by today's standards. I doubt you'd find anyone who would get into similar machines today.

And a lunar colony would have a cycle of 2 weeks of day followed by the same of night - lots of interesting challenges there for people and machinery.

And a trip to Mars doesn't need to be one-way, it simply costs more to make it a two-way proposition. For example, instead of one ship, launch several at once, some dedicated to provisioning the return trip (as one possibility, some or all those could remain in Mars orbit until needed). And there are a number of other scenarios as well.

Right now, the only thing we really know how to do with humans is fly them to the ISS and no further.

With today's knowledge base and technology, we don't know how to fly to and return from anyplace other than our own orbital platforms.

And when the ISS was announced, a whole lot of us facepalmed the whole thing because we'd lost all conception of Arthur C. Clarke's islands in the sky -



Rather than continue to think in terms of monolithic launch systems, if we had any real dedication to exploration of our solar system, we'd have an orbital platform, shuttle to that, and launch out from there. Those vehicles wouldn't have to include the resources or construction necessary to deal with leaving and re-entering Earth.

Thanks to our decades-long approach of disposable everything, we've got so much crap up there in orbit around us that I doubt that vision could work until we cleaned up the neighborhood.

You may think that the Earth looks like this from space and it pretty much did in the 60s -



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You have to be able to fly though all the pretty dots to stay alive.
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Just let me know when they find those Virgin moon maidens. I'll be there.
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Great post, EarlyMon.

I love your ideas on other, more efficient, more LOGICAL ways of tackling trips like these. The thing about the one way aspect is that that's how the company behind this thread's trips to Mars is planning to do it. And it's the one aspect that makes me KNOW that I would never agree to go! No matter what anyone's said in this thread, there's simply NOTHING that sounds appealing enough to make me want to permanently leave behind everything and everyone I care about.
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Do you have any non-sexual thoughts about this?!
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I see you spelled Virgin with a capital V. Does that mean Richard Branson has already been there and left maidens behind?
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If not for the fact that I WOULDN'T want to spend the rest of my life on Mars, I'd go if the rest of the group was all guys. Of course, I don't know how much of a "hottie" I'd be considered at this point in my life... Disabled, out of shape, middle aged... Yeah, let's just scratch the whole idea.
Well, I've had so many women tell me "not if you were the last man on Earth", that I figured maybe if I was the last man on Mars I might just have a shot...
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Did you hear the one where Venus de Milo (Aphrodite tes Melou) said, "Here, let me give you a hand... "
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Hot enough to melt lead, atmosphere pressure like the bottom of the ocean and sulphuric acid clouds.

Probably not a top holiday destination any time soon.
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One of the main reasons they are attempting to go to Mars is because has an atmosphere, and with some help by us humans, it can over time be terraformed. Not to mention Mars has ice water, similar Earth day, seasons, etc, etc. To my knowledge, the Moon has none of these. I however agree that it would make more sense to build a moon base first, then move on to other planets...

The reason why we want a base on moon is Helium 3. I don't know much of a details, but from what i've read its an excellent source of energy. Earth does not have much of it, but moon does.
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It has its uses, but as a power source we need to make working fusion reactors first.
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And get enough of it. Interesting article, thanks to Mr. Google -

http://io9.com/5908499/could-helium+3-really-solve-earths-energy-problems

Not 100% accurate, but I think that the estimates for lunar quantities are probably right.
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This is a new one on me! I'd heard about the scheme to slingshot a couple of pensioners around Mars and back, but sending people on a one way trip to set up a colony, financed by making it as a Big Brother type TV show (presumably without the votes and evictions) .. wow!

Sure, there are plenty of people with daddy issues and that other sort of attention deficit disorder - the one where they can never have enough attention - but are they really going to sign up for a one way trip to the red planet, just so they can be in front of a camera?
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Yeah this is an interesting subject. There is already a thread about the one-way trip:

How about a ONE-WAY trip to Mars?

That's interesting reading. Although, I like your take on the idea that someone would do it just to get on a reality TV show.

That is pretty sad, compared to some people's dreams of space travel, etc.
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Merged.

I was thinking about this thread yesterday. I feel like the Cylon in the bathtub - Jump!
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I was thinking about this thread yesterday. I feel like the Cylon in the bathtub - Jump!
Hmm. Fancying a little holiday then?
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Yeah, it would definitely be more appealing if it were a holiday that you could return from. If you could "jump" and be back home.

BTW I loved the cylon in the bathtub - very redolent of the precogs in Minority Report. There's something about a highly intelligent woman jabbering possibly genius comments while relaxing in the bath.

As far as the big brother house goes, it would be good if you could return home to Earth after being evicted from the house, rather than having to roam the wilderness of Mars alone.
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I don't know: looking at the people who do Big Brother, would you really want them back?

Which incidentally does make me wonder if there isn't a catch-22 in this plan: can you really see the sort of people who want to be life-long Big Brother contestants also being the sort of people who you could stick in an outsized baked bean can for 5 months, then have build a cage that they are to spend the rest of their days in and NOT have them freak out and do something idiotic?

And as for the chances of them completing that build without problems ..
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I don't know: looking at the people who do Big Brother, would you really want them back?

Which incidentally does make me wonder if there isn't a catch-22 in this plan: can you really see the sort of people who want to be life-long Big Brother contestants also being the sort of people who you could stick in an outsized baked bean can for 5 months, then have build a cage that they are to spend the rest of their days in and NOT have them freak out and do something idiotic?

And as for the chances of them completing that build without problems ..
But more drama= bigger ratings.
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But a rather short run, and no chance of being picked up for the next season...
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Judging by the way we're treating this planet if the species is to survive we need to start making plans to colonise another planet...
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Judging by the way we're treating this planet if the species is to survive we need to start making plans to colonise another planet...
Good point. Do we really want the future of the species to be descended from Reality TV contestants?
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Well BBC Broadcasting House has moved from London to Manchester, so I don't see why reality tv shows can't relocate to Mars...

Maybe all our entertainment should be made on Mars from now on
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I'd rather relocate them to history
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I hope everybody got their applications turned in. If not, better hurry!

One-Way Mars Trip: Application Deadline for Martian Colony Nears
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OMG! This thread is resurrected.

You know, I've been seriously thinking about signing up...


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This has fail written all over it.
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165,000 people have applied!

They should send the lot of them. There is definitely potential to build a Martian society if so many people are prepared to move.
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They should send the lot of them. There is definitely potential to build a Martian society if so many people are prepared to move.
One of my friends signed up, but I'll wait until it gets built up a bit
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165,000 people have applied!
Honestly, I'm shocked. I didn't think that many people would want to go.

I'm baffled, too. As we hashed out before, the issues involved with actually GOING there, permanently, wow...I know I couldn't do it. Wouldn't want to do it!

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If you are planning on lifting 165,000 people out of the gravity well you'd better add a space elevator to the Gantt chart. That's going to take a long time with our current rockets.
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