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Old February 24th, 2013, 01:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Samsung has officially unveiled the Galaxy Note 8.0. This newest tablet hopes to “re-ignite the mid-size tablet category” and sports an 8-inch display with a 1280×800 resolution (189ppi) and looks like a larger Galaxy Note II – plus even has phone capabilities… so officially now a ‘phablet.’

As the previous Note 10.1 tablet the 8.0 also comes with an enhanced S Pen and has 1.6 GHz Exynos quad-core processor, 2GB RAM, runs Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean, 5MP camera with a 1.3 MP front-facing camera, 4,600mAh, Wi-Fi and 3GG version. According to Samsung Canada we can expect a release of the Wi-Fi Note 8.0 in Q2 and it’ll be available at all the usual big box stores. No word yet on price points.

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I don't know about size, but my first cellphone weighed 30 pounds. That might not sound like a lot, but try hand-carrying that for a few city blocks!
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What is the point of an 8' tablet having phone capabilities ?

To the question at hand: For me anything over the overall size of the Note 2 is going to be too big. The Note 2 is the perfect size for me, I just hope Samsung doesn't ruin the Note phone/phablet line by increasing the size of the device when they roll out the Note 3, Note 4, etc.etc. If they do I'll probably pick up the Galaxy S4 or wait for the S5, depending on when they announce the Note 3 specs.
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What is the point of an 8' tablet having phone capabilities ?

To the question at hand: For me anything over the overall size of the Note 2 is going to be too big. The Note 2 is the perfect size for me, I just hope Samsung doesn't ruin the Note phone/phablet line by increasing the size of the device when they roll out the Note 3, Note 4, etc.etc. If they do I'll probably pick up the Galaxy S4 or wait for the S5, depending on when they announce the Note 3 specs.
Pretty much agree, i think the big players in the phone world are getting to the point where an everyday smartphone will average about a 5 inch screen.

For instance, samsung S2, 4.2 inch screen, S3, 4.8, but the S4 is heavily rumored to be 5 inch (4.99) sure the note series might go slightly higher, but the devices are designed with different uses in mind to a degree, hence the note with the stylus and the S series without. Of course, with a note type device using a stylus, you are more likely to need a bit more screen to make vetted use of the device.
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So that Galaxy Note 8 is a phone?
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So that Galaxy Note 8 is a phone?
i think so. im not sure why anyone would want an 8" phone tho... it says it has phone capabilities so im not really sure exactly what that means ether... on the surface it seems that yes it is a phone.
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In my humble opinion, that is a tiny tablet with benefits.
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I like the idea of a tablet with phone cababilities nothing i'm going to hold to my ear but put it on speaker phone and bam I'm good to Surf my favorite hangout and chat all on one device with a screen big enough for these old eyes to see.
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You could use Bluetooth to talk on the 8" tablet, but would someone really want to add another line to their plan for that? Surely not many people would want to carry a tablet around as their main phone.
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Something like the note 8 would make for a great multi use device in a vehicle imo. Capable of calls, sat nav, bluetooth etc with a decent sized screen.
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30 pounds? Are you sure? A 3 year old child weighs roughly 30 pounds.

2 or 3 pounds maybe, but not 30 hehe.
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For, me, I think anything bigger than the GS3 is too big. And honestly, the GS3 is pushing it a little for my smallish hands. I love the screen, but have trouble one-handing it, and for me, that makes the difference between good size and too big.
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My current gs2 screen size is perfect for me, but I've got a gs3 on the way in the next day or so.

Doubt I'll have any complaints though

Don't think I could handle moving up to a note 2 though, just seems too big for me.

Note 8? Yeah 8" is entirely too big for a phone if you want to call it that.
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I think if they create a Bluetooth device that can sync with the note 8..
Like a mini phone


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It could be, but imagine the funny looks you'll be getting if you didn't have a bluetooth device for it lol
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To the question at hand: For me anything over the overall size of the Note 2 is going to be too big. The Note 2 is the perfect size for me, I just hope Samsung doesn't ruin the Note phone/phablet line by increasing the size of the device when they roll out the Note 3, Note 4, etc.etc. If they do I'll probably pick up the Galaxy S4 or wait for the S5, depending on when they announce the Note 3 specs.
My question is will there be a Note 3... If the "8 tablet doubles as a phone why would Samsung continue the phablet phenomenon? Tablet phones have arrived now.
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30 pounds? Are you sure? A 3 year old child weighs roughly 30 pounds.

2 or 3 pounds maybe, but not 30 hehe.
I think it is a typo. That said, I dimly recall the radio telephones (not a cell, no such thing way back then) that took up lots of space. There was a receiver section and a transmitter section. Expensive calls, I must say.

Chances are, he never had one of those beasts is my guess.
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30 pounds? Are you sure? A 3 year old child weighs roughly 30 pounds.

2 or 3 pounds maybe, but not 30 hehe.
The spec sheet said 30 pounds, and after carrying it, I had no reason to question if the number was too high. This Italian-styled beauty from Radio Shack (c.1986) featured a generous lead-acid battery pack that weighed...pretty close to 30 pounds.

My next one, a Panasonic that took the very same battery packs that our camcorders did, weighed a lot less, but more than 2-3 pounds. My first handheld cellphone weighed 3 pounds!
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SD, you were just a sucker, my first mobile phone was extremely lightweight!

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SD, you were just a sucker, my first mobile phone was extremely lightweight!

If that counts as a "mobile phone", then my first rig, a pair of cheap Part 15 CB radios at 100mW on channel 14, worked a lot better, and could work around corners. So there!
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I love it!

It's so ridiculous that I would have to get one. In fact I hope they sell a holster so I could attach it to my belt. And yes, I would make phone calls on it like the photo above because I think it would be hilarious.

Please Samsung, keep on going overboard with the screen sizes- Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 phablet anybody?

You say it would be too big to hold with one hand?


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What is the point of an 8' tablet having phone capabilities ?

To the question at hand: For me anything over the overall size of the Note 2 is going to be too big. The Note 2 is the perfect size for me, I just hope Samsung doesn't ruin the Note phone/phablet line by increasing the size of the device when they roll out the Note 3, Note 4, etc.etc. If they do I'll probably pick up the Galaxy S4 or wait for the S5, depending on when they announce the Note 3 specs.

Well... A 6inch phone could be seen as a tablet that can text.....? Although I agree the Note 2 is about the limit where it just becomes too big.
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You say it would be too big to hold with one hand?


Problem solved.
LOL!!! I was about to say that when you have to carry your tablet in the fashion of a '70s vintage boom-box (on your shoulder, with a handle), then it's too big to use as a phone. Looks like you beat me to it.
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Why the answer I'm thinking of directly numerically correlate with men's.... no, no, no it couldn't be it.
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Why the answer I'm thinking of directly numerically correlate with men's.... no, no, no it couldn't be it.
I have no idea what you're talking about, but anyways...

When a 4" iPhone user starts trashing Android phones, I'll just whip out my 8" of rock hard Android and slap it onto their forehead.

You know all the womens will be shocked at your 8" phone and will be asking to touch it and how you live with something that big.
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I have no idea what you're talking about, but anyways...

When a 4" iPhone user starts trashing Android phones, I'll just whip out my 8" of rock hard Android and slap it onto their forehead.

You know all the womens will be shocked at your 8" phone and will be asking to touch it and how you live with something that big.
You know there's a "size doesn't matter" joke in there somewhere.
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Size is part of the reason I don't even own a smartphone. I like the Android OS for how versatile it is, especially on tablets/netbooks and game systems, but I prefer smaller and simpler flip phones for talking and texting. The 5-inch "phablets" look nice, but they're not the kind of thing I would want to carry with me everywhere, so the phone support just feels redundant to me. I feel the same way about this.

Now, if they made a new Galaxy Pocket on the other hand...
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Sad and weird.

I think a phone is too big if you either can't hold it with one hand, or if using it while driving poses risks due to acting as a horse blinder.

Otherwise, it's up to the user's preference.
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Sad and weird.

I think a phone is too big if you either can't hold it with one hand, or if using it while driving poses risks due to acting as a horse blinder.

Otherwise, it's up to the user's preference.
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I will as thinking more of a small clam shell phone look
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The Huawei Ascend Mate is a monster of a thing too, 6.1 inch screen..
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"Too big" has to do with thickness more than screen size, for me. That's why the Droid 3 was in my hands only for a few weeks and no slide-out keyboard will ever be mine again.

I need thin and HUGE bright fast screen... yeppers.
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I think the Samsung Galaxy Note 1 & 2 is as far as i would go with a screen size. A 5"x 5" inches screen is the highest in my opinion.

Anything bigger is just ridiculous. Lol
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Well, in my opinion Galaxy Note 8 itself is too big for a phone...undoubtedly it's a superb tablet, but why does it have to have a phone? If we see logically then anything that's larger than our palm is 'big' for a phone...from that perspective even Note II was big to be a phone..I personally don't like using a phone that will cover my entire face from one side when I put it closer to my ear...so I am happy with my S3 and didn't go for Note II..

Now with galaxy note 8 Samsung has crossed all the boundaries...I think one day they will start embedding a phone in anything that we can hold in one hand...even in the full sized 10-inch tablets..LOL
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One thing is clear: even though we call them cell phones, the phone feature is becoming a smaller fraction of what we use these devices for. It once made sense to shrink a phone if all it could do was make calls and store contacts. The features that make the device smart are more pleasant to use on a bigger screen, so naturally, our phones are increasing in size.

The trend toward larger screens is consumer-driven. Once a device becomes too big, it will be clear to the manufacturer that they've crossed the preference threshold, and we might see size stabilize. Maybe we're almost there; maybe not.

People have been trying to call the "perfect size" for quite some time. It used to be in the 4" range. Clearly it isn't. Just wait and see. And don't worry. With the exception of Apple, manufacturers realize that one size does not fit all. We won't all have to use Note-sized phones if we think that's too big (or small!).
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The evolution of phones is strange. I remember when the worry was that they were getting so small that when we tried to talk on them, they'd be dropped and lost in our ears. Phones like this were the fashion:



Now we're going the opposite way and smartphones are getting as big as tablets

Personally I don't think this is all bad. A 5 inch screen? I like that. The S3 is a nice size and I think the S4 will be too.

But, IMHO, the Note 2 is already taking it too far, and these reports of 6 and 8 inch phones just leave me scratching my head. Surely it's just a PR stunt? I mean no one will actually use those as phones, that's just ridiculous.

I agree that we'll eventually settle in a 5 inch average size.
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i have seen korean shows.. that had the actors using small tablets.. and then using them to call people...and of course video chatting too.

so.. they are trying to make this a normal thing.
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The larger phablets would be intended for use with a Bluetooth headset, not held up to your head. Portability would be my concern, I need my phone on me at all times, much bigger than the Note and that is no longer possible.

If the carriers would allow more than one device connected to a line it would be an option I might look at, a smaller phone for carrying around and the phablet for more stationary use, it could be a big plus for working.
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I like the SGS3 size, since it's about the same as my Razr Maxx, but all screen. Give me a SGS3/Maxx, and an otterbox commuter case that isn't slippery, or too rubbery to slide easily out of my pocket (like a thick version of the silicone cases), and I'll be happy.
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Speaking of size:



How about that desktop environment?
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Call me old hat but I cannot consider anything larger than a 3.5" screen good for a phone. I like devices to virtually vanish in my pocket and I have a tablet for anything needing a larger screen. When phones become 'phablets' they start reminding me of the Motorola MicroTAC 'bricks' of the early 1990s.
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Old Hat!!! Old Hat!!! J/K

I am getting closer to agreeing here. I feel like I either should have a Phablet or a small "Dumb Phone" and a Tablet with 3g connectivity.
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Why not tether your Android phone to a tablet to perform the same function without sacrificing the use of a phone as a phone? When I saw those pics of that Samsung monstrosity I was reminded of an early 80's relic



What's next? Return of Rubber antennas?
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Why not tether your Android phone to a tablet to perform the same function without sacrificing the use of a phone as a phone? When I saw those pics of that Samsung monstrosity I was reminded of an early 80's relic


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That is what I do now. If I carried my Nexus 7 around with me any more than I do, I would probably just switch to the 3g version, drop my phone altogether, and use a bluetooth jawbone.

It would be nice if I could use a cheap dumb phone as a hot spot. That would work too.
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Well, the $45 ZTE Merit (cost at launch) does the hotspot job just fine. I just leave it in the car and use my tablet within a few hundred feet of my vehicle. During winter when my subscriber module of the WISP I use dies for a time in freezing weather (it fails to register and sync in temps below 29 degrees) that is what I use for my iPad to connect to the Internet. I just got an iPhone so the Merit's only duty now is mobile hotspot
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