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Old June 11th, 2013, 06:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Soon I'll have to start the process for applying to uni and I'm still in the 'I don't know what I wanna do :'(' phase. So I thought I'd come here, maybe get some advice... Maybe hear/read how others made the decision....

First choice was dentistry but now I'm not sure I could actually do it as a job everyday...

Second choice was 'something in IT'. I'm not really sure which areas are the best to go in either. I think I'd like to so something in programming but I hear the real $ is only there at the very top levels.

Third option is another 'something in' this time in chemistry, mainly cos I really like the subject. By the looks of it Chemical engineering seems ok (probably need to look further into it) and it seems you do t have to have a chem engineering degree to become an engineer ^_^

So... Anyone got anything to add :-P?
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My suggestions is don't take specific classes. If you are interested in those things then I would recommend taking Math, and Chemistry classes as programming has math in there. Take some programming classes too. Do a lot of research online too for things you may be interested in.
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If engineering is your plan a masters will be needed. Unless you want to be evil, like me, and get a degree in petroleum engineering. Most of the guys I know with an advanced degree in petroleum engineering get it to teach.

Just suggestions, careers you won't be starving in, geology, geophysics, math(don't laugh it's helpful if you want to program).

Take my advice knowing how cynical I am. I believe in going to college to make money not what I love. I came to love engineering like an arranged marriage.
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I wouldn't dismiss dentistry entirely - it's a pretty good career, though I heard years ago that dentists had a shorter than average life expectancy .. coz they kept sinking their boats or crashing their sports cars and aircraft

The advice above sounds good to me.

FWIW, my advice would be to avoid IT - and particularly programming. The entire industry is inexorably moving to India. Major UK companies have not only already outsourced the vast majority of IT development (programming), many have also outsourced analysis and management. Basically, other than paying the bills, there's nothing left here

It is possible that this trend will reverse but I would say the odds are nowhere near high enough to bet your future on - unless you're willing and able to move to Bangalore and compete with the locals, of course.
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Actually a good point there : a chemistry or maybe maths could get me a wide range of jobs without limiting me much. :-D

I haven't fully dismissed dentistry but I know it'll be extremely hard to get into even with some work experience. Plus I don't know if I would enjoy actually doing it. And my teacher said that dentists have no souls. Another mentioned high suicide rates....

I've had a quick look at petroleum engineering and I gotta say - there's a lot of £££ in that :-D. One website mentions you'll need degrees in maths, applied sciences (would a chemistry degree count?) or chemical/petroleum engineering, which doesn't sound too bad. Next I'll have to look at grades but I reckon AAA is achievable for me... Maybe even an A* in there ^_^
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as far as schools go pick a diverse school and not something that a school is particularly good at. start with your undergrads stuff. take courses that you think you might be interested in and go from there. i school for just a degree these days do not mean a whole lot. it is where you go for your grad stuff that counts. and keep in mind that this is not a race.......take your time to decide. i mean i went to ucsb and got me a aquatic bio degree that means very little to me. and now i have a culinary degree and working as a line cook at a very nice restaurant. so really undergrad stuff will help you to pick something. i guess, it did not really do it for me. but, i was just a confused as you to be honest......LOL

i think i rushed in and did not really look at the horizon very well. i thought that research for me was what i wanted to do. but i saw the unglamourous sided and changed my mind at the last instant.

anyways, i hope that helps.
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Plus I don't know if I would enjoy actually doing it
I tend to think, if work was enjoyable they charge you to do it, not pay you ..

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And my teacher said that dentists have no souls
Seems a tad extreme - though I guess a small degree of sadism helps

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Another mentioned high suicide rates....
Apparently, that's (mostly) a myth.

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I've had a quick look at petroleum engineering and I gotta say - there's a lot of £££ in that :-D
Might be worth doing a little more research - maybe find out how you get into it, how many starter posts there available each year versus how many applicants, what qualifications and experience the companies are actually looking for .. Might also be a idea to find out where the jobs you'd be looking for later are advertised and see how many there are around.

You may also want to consider where you'd be working. Some jobs in the oil industry are awesome and you get to enjoy a really, really good life. Others, not so much. The husband of a friend is some sort of engineer and he spends 3 or 4 months on a 'secure' site in Algeria. He spends pretty much all of that time on-site, partly as it's dangerous to leave it, but mostly coz he works 12 hour days, often 7 days a week. After the 3 or 4 months on, he does of course, get a few weeks off. He seems fine with this, but it would drive me crazy - not least because I kinda like a bit of a social life, good food, a nice home .. and female company.
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Dont chase something for money, you will hate your life and end up being a typical in debt human being.

I saw you put IT on your first post. If it is surrounding basic IT stuff dont waste your money with college, get technical certs and read stuff yourself.

I am a network engineer though, with a masters in electrical engineer, and then have my CCNA, CCIE, JNCIA and a few others that don't matter. I love my job, though I work on average 70-80 hour weeks. I love to mess with stuff and I get to do that and while I am only 25 this job has allowed me to be financially stable. Not to many people my age can buy stuff with straight up cash. Though I lead a moderately boring life lol

But in your search find what makes you happy. I am a raging nerd and love that I get to mess with routers that cost more than Ferrari's, but so many of my friends have gone to college for some stupid degree and are now working jobs they don't like with student loan debts that will take them years to pay off when in the end it was not worth it. I don't get why people put certain things before happiness. If I ever get tired of this job I will be done and work for something else. Or maybe just not work. I DONT KNOW either way a happy life is the way to go, not for the dollar signs.
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Dont chase something for money, you will hate your life and end up being a typical in debt human being.
No, you'll be miserable but without student loans. Doing something for love is how we end up with art majors working at starbucks.
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I've had a quick look at petroleum engineering and I gotta say - there's a lot of £££ in that :-D. One website mentions you'll need degrees in maths, applied sciences (would a chemistry degree count?) or chemical/petroleum engineering, which doesn't sound too bad. Next I'll have to look at grades but I reckon AAA is achievable for me... Maybe even an A* in there ^_^
Have a look at InternationalStudents possibly the best in the world for Petroleum Engineering. And being from the UK the exchange rate is in your favor at about 19,000 quid not including room and board.
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Any opinions on A Levels? Looks like Maths, Chemistry and Physics are good to continue, but then should I drop my fourth - Spanish?
I guess having to only do 3 would be better...
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Any opinions on A Levels? Looks like Maths, Chemistry and Physics are good to continue, but then should I drop my fourth - Spanish?
I guess having to only do 3 would be better...
Alternative languages are always good to have in your back pocket. Often times, that alone can score you a few more bucks on your salary.
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Only other thing is A2 is quite similar to English Literature - writing about books and films...
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I've got nothing on math and sciences, only thing I can offer is:
Like ocnbrze said, look at schools that are very diverse in course offerings (and majors). I really wanted to go to a small liberal arts school, but with the cost benefit of a great state school (UNC-Chapel Hill), that's where I ended up. I had no idea what I wanted to do and thought about a psychology major.
Whelp, about 2 months into my first semester I realized I made the wrong decision. Made the tough choice of leaving school and transferring to a culinary school. My passion was in food. I knew it'd be years if ever that I'd be making much money, but I'd be happy with what I'd be doing. Yeah, I still have some debt I'm holding onto from loans, but at least I enjoy my work.
Long story short, never hesitate to make a change a ways through school. If you are enrolled in a place that gives you more options, even better! My sister changed her major nearly every year of college. She ended up with some amalgamation of a degree. Ended up loving something even different later on and went back to school to earn another degree to move up in her field.
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One bit of info I will give, you don't need a graduate degree to enter an engineering field. A regular B.S. Is more than enough. Engineers are the highest paid 4 year degrees out there, with petroleum engineering leading the pack right now. If you like math and science, I highly recommend it. However to be contrary to some other info, while going to a school with a diverse set of majors is good for if you can't make up your mind, the best schools as far as industry is concerned are the specialized ones. Ie. You will find it much easier to find a job once you graduate if you go to a technical school. That's what I did, and I actually got headhunted while still in school, and had an offer three months prior to graduation.
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One field that is often overlooked but makes big $ is actuarial science. It's the one mathematics job left that's not in education. There are times where I wish I had gone down that path instead of my Computational Mathematics path. It's mostly a statistics field. Get a bachelor's degree and pass 4 out of 7 tests and starting salary is around 150k.
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Sounds good, but I hate statistics.
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For a long time unless another cold war cranks up then mechanical engineers might squeak by. We just keep coming up with new ways to get at all that 710.
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It's been mentioned before, but I just wanna make sure - you guys would say that a chem degree might be better than a chem engineering? (In that I can use a chem degree to get into engineering, as well as maths based, and IT based things too)
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Soon I'll have to start the process for applying to uni and I'm still in the 'I don't know what I wanna do :'(' phase. So I thought I'd come here, maybe get some advice... Maybe hear/read how others made the decision....

Second choice was 'something in IT'. I'm not really sure which areas are the best to go in either. I think I'd like to so something in programming but I hear the real $ is only there at the very top levels.

So... Anyone got anything to add :-P?
I don't know how the universities in the UK work...in the US smart thing to do is get your >1 year core courses out of the way first (basic math, English literature, government, history, etc.) then start taking classes towards your field of study after you have completed them. A lot of people take those "core" classes at a two-year college and transfer them to the more expensive college you actually want to graduate from...saves a lot of money. I would delay your choice of field as is practical. Keeps you from losing money on credits that do not transfer if you decide to switch majors.

As for how I made the decision on what to focus on...I did not. I went from welding, to surveying, to GIS, to CIS. Can't really help you there, other than to advise you to be persistent.

Programming can actually pay pretty well. I was fortunate...I got good programming job at a wonderful company two months out of college. Unfortunately a lot of it is being outsourced to India where it is cheaper. It depends on where you are seeking employment. You may have to move to get the job you want. As for which major...Computer Science or Computer Engineering is the major you want if you want to get into programming. I graduated with a CIS major...but again, I think I was just fortunate.
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from the looks of it, you would enjoy engineering. Have you considered CS and maybe coding for Google/Android one day? :P
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Of course I'd love to work at Google. Only thing is I have no idea how likely that is to happen, and I haven't given much thought for a CS degree, mainly because I found that a lot of programming jobs are available with a Chem degree....

Unless CS would be more suited to something more IT based. But then again, I doubt I'd get 2 A*'s, so I won't have much of a chance at going to as good universities... although I should stil be able to get in somewhere in the top 10

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MY only advice to anyone in picking a future career is try to find something you absolutely will love. Money is really nice to have, but in the end, if you don't really love the career you have chosen, you will not ultimately be happy there.
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Yeah I understand but I really like chemistry and IT (in the sense of computers, rather than what I did at AS level and learning theory)
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Still undecided :-\ going to have a look at a few unis soon.

The computer science/going into programming type jobs sounds interesting, although I know that a lot of the jobs are moving to other countries.

And although petroleum eng looks good too, I wonder if it would be a good degree to have in 4/5 years as it is now?
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My kid just registered for first year engineering and I am very pleased with his choice. The program is challenging and practical. Once he graduates, he can enter into an excellent profession with lots of opportunities.

I am not sure how it works in the UK, whether you can go directly into dentistry. In Canada, student take undergrad courses, usually science and apply to dentistry or medicine after 3 years. Not everybody gets in.

In my experience a BSc in Chemistry is not enough by itself to get you an excellent job in that field. You will need to go on to a Masters or Doctorate or take a specialized chemical program in a technical college to work in the discipline, or use it as a jumping point to something else eg medicine, dentistry, law, business. All of which require more school, time and money. Do it if you love the subject, but I would suggest the chem engineering route.
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Well Mehta23 I am I was in the same boat as you so don't worry you are seriously not alone ek se!

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No matter what it is... how "great" or how "small"... when you have given your best... your entire body and mind and you give yourself to it 500% and don't stress ... money will come through the door.

It will.

Remember:

Happiness = Success

Ja sure I agree there are some things that just simply will just not work!

Like completely obsolete and ancient "Medieval Plumbing"!

Then you will turn into a hobo joe and you will be no more!

So ja within in good reason choose something that will at least support you some what!

Don't choose something that will not support you at all like Medieval Plumbing!

Remember you should ask yourself an important question here about what you said early and why you brought it up:

Why is money very important to you?

Please note I think that is a great thing because sadly in most cases Money = Power.

Sadly.

Anyway!

If you are very interested in money and like fast cars or whatever it is that is attracting you to lots of money and so on... then you might want to consider something in the business section or a more general type of thing like something "Business Science".

Or maybe try to choose something you find you will really enjoy so later you can open your own business in the chosen field.

Take me for a "flawless" example! ...

I have been studying IT for a while now and after the gazillionth 1 bazillionth 10000000th line of

[HIGH]
//Crappy program does something very crappy and don't care what it does... oh yeah!

# include <iostream>

using namespace std;

int main ()

blah blah blah blah[/HIGH]And even worse after the bazillionth <p> tag:

[HIGH]<p>.... blah blah blah blah yakkitty yakitty bleh bleh shnoo shnoo! </p>[/HIGH]It starts to take it's toll l for me at least I know it does...

It is not working out for me!

Going crazy!

I am really starting to consider something else because I am starting to seriously lose interest in this spot in life.

It is just not for me.

But remember this is only me!

You might like programming... you never know!

I did find something by accident that I realised that I seriously seriously enjoy!

Teaching!

An emergency popped up at the school with a dodgy crazy loser maths teacher that was insulting the children (using the K word... what a crazy freak!) and because I was doing such an awesome job at After Care they asked if I could fill in for the next month to help out!

I really really really loved that month... and I am seriously considering RUNNING away from computers!

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SUBSCRIBE SUBSCRIBE SUBSCRIBE!

(And I guess when they looked at my Matric results and saw 96% for Maths that helped like crazy too! )

We (students and I) had such a good time and I kept it really interesting with all my crazy facts about random topics.

I seriously mind trolled them though!

They really did not like Tuesadays... "The Legendary Question of Extreme Ugliness! "

And if you ask for a clue... you all have to drop down and give me 30 push ups!

And only then do you guys get the clue!

;-D

That was every Tuesday to get the week started off from all their hang overs from Monday morning and their crazy parties from escaping the crazyness of life!

(I went a bit easy on them on Mondays because they were "hung over" from having out of control fun on the weekends like crazies! )

I used to ask them really nasty questions on Tuesdays and Troll their young undersized brains! ... they hated Tuesdays but I really sure as hell didn't!

I LOVED Tuesdays!

Oh yeah!

Meheheheheheee!

>:-)

Evil Stinky is very very Evil!

Even the Grade 11 and Matrics came up and wanted me to take their class as well because the word spread so fast!

I couldn't believe it!

I sometimes still can't!

I have been told I would make a brilliant teacher and never even thought about that advice.

The word must have spread about it all to everyone.

But sadly they needed to realise in the end I am not "qualified" and they had to accept that it was only for a very short time as no one else could do it at that time and it was an emergency.

Did it for free too because I had so much fun!

Now I am 500% aware that teachers get paid - 5 Rands.

But that is so not what I am doing it for!

And Mehta23 remember like ocnbrze said take your time!

But don't turn into this while you do!




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I see why they call you the crazy one now

You do have a point - why is money important? BUt I'd like to have enough to live without too much of s struggle, and to be able to enjoy life I guess.

Obviously it'd be amazing to be so rich that you could walk into a store and buy something without needing to look at the price tag

I see what you mean about how IT can become a bit boring/repetitive, but isnt that the same for pretty much any job? A while ago I tried learning JS on codeacademy, and I quite enjoyed it, although I'm not sure if I could be coding for a living. And getting into a top uni for CS would be much MUCH harder.

edit: only need 3 A's to get in at Exeter (96% go straight into employment from that), other places need (multiple) A* though.
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Well maybe you can take half a year (or what ever time you think might help you) to maybe do some occupation / work shadowing?

Hmmm... trying to think of something creative.. out of the box to help you out...

It sounds like there are some major areas that you're interested:

1) Chemistry stuffs.

(CAN I get lots and LOTS of GUN POWDER from you oh ptetty pretty please???? )

We must negotiate!!

(But be warned... I am serious cheap ass!)

2) Computing / IT area.

(I know I said there is a lot of repetitive stuff in computing but bear in mind there is also a very interesting and very creative problem solving and seriously interesting work a rounds to some problems that world has in many areas. Take reverse software engineering for example, very interesting topic.)

Also sounds like you have done some Java Script you say?

3) It does look like money is a bit important to you.

Well... maybe there is some way you can combine chemistry and computing together?

Why not?

Maybe you can ask around to see if there is something that will do all 3 available to take out 2 birds with 1 stone?

What about trying to take out alll 3 in one go?

;-)

If you find an area that is a good "middle ground" that can do a bit of both thing-a-magiggies that you seem interested in then you will be able to get a taste of both.

And if you are qualified in both areas it makes you all the more attractive for employment.

It is a nice middle ground and maybe from there you can really decide if it is for you or not?

Had a quick search fer ya on the world's brain (Google ) for maybe a quick looky!:

Computational chemistry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Hmmm... so you like computers?

And Chemistry?

hmmm...

I really don't know what area you can take for that?

Hmmm... hopefully some one here would be kind to help out?

Hopeful Stinky is being hopeful!

Hmmm can I ask why you like computing?

So you have tried out JavaScript and you said you really like it?

But can't do it for a living?

Well I aintz gotz no freaking clue what so eva programming languages they use there!

Have no clue!

I don't even know if they will be "OOP" / "object orientated programming"?

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Wow I was wrong about it being OOP though!

I see what these Chemist guys seem to be using now!

Shit!

Why the heck is it Markup???

Why the hell did they use freaking Markup based stuff??

What the...

Hmm.. I just don't get that or understand why they took that route..

Anyway!

Never mind my madness!

Here is some info for you young grasshopper!

http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/archive/tcaw/11/i10/pdf/1002comps.pdf

Chemical Markup Language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Looks very very very interesting actually!

Very cool by the looks of it hey!

Good luck!

And may the force be with you!

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Ok thanks!

I didn't think about a chem/it mixed course... But I think chem eng covers a little about it anyway.

I do like computers, although I don't know why. The small bit of Java script I've done was quite enjoyable but I've been told JS is a bit of a rubbish language in the real world, and like I said I'm not sure if I could code everyday.

However in my 'IT Qualification' thread, it was mentioned that to get a good IT job, you only really need experience and skills (ie languages) and any good degree.

That's why I'm liking the idea if a science course that could 'open many paths up'

I'll have a look at the links in your posts Stinky!

And over this summer I'll be looking to get some work experience in a dental practice and I'll also try to find somewhere for chemistry too
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What!? Nooooooooooooooo! Nothing else than chemistry, says a chemist himself My major was chemistry at the university. There are many areas in chemistry which need also it/coding skills. For example a physical chemistry, computer aided drug design, nmr modelling, proteine modelling etc.. but sure, hard decision!

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I dont know how it is in your country, but here the difference is huge. Chem engineerings are studying things in practice to solve some industrial problems and how to make processes work for example consuming less money. They dont much care about the theory behind. They know for example that some reaction is sn2 type nuchleophilic substitution and they know the solvent effects etc, but most of the things are facts for engineers.

When i studied at the university, we studied more and more the theory (actually about 40% of all courses we had lab works though!) and the reason why the reaction was for example sn2 not the sn1 type or something else.. After basic courses we studied a quantum chemistry etc. and finally specialized in some smaller area. I specialized in organic chemistry. When i studied a math, it was more like proving things. For engineers those are facts, they dont need to prove that for example lim(x->inf.) 1/x = 0 but at the university it wasnt fact for us. We needed to prove it. Mostly the questions on exams were "Prove that...." not "Calculate the..."
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I'm from the UK - in England. I went to an open day and the differences between chem and chem eng seemed a bit clearer although I still don't know what I want to do.

Just a thought - if I did a chemistry degree, would I still be able to do a chemical engineer's job or would doing a chem eng degree make it easier in the future?
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It depends alot of the work.. For example if your work is to monitoring, handle and solve problems in processes, then a chem eng degree is right one. But if you need to understand the theory behind and study more about it, then a chem degree is better. Both are needed and both have the knowledge to share to make things happen. There might be also differend kind of chem eng degrees, lower and upper degree. I dont know, you should check that too. (atleast we have here where i live). Some of the upper degree might be (almost) the same level as chem degree, but they study more practice than just the theory. But still, if youre going to study at an university to get a chem degree, upper level, it would be more studying theories. Most of the researchers are graduated from an university.

And for the last question. If they are looking for a chem eng, they propably dont hire a chemist. It's not that the chemist wouldnt know what to do, but they dont need a guy, who has a higher degree for a job than it is needed. Also they dont want to pay more salary either... You should check some job advertisements to see what kind of degree is needed and what companies are looking for...
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It's been a while, thought I'd give a quick update:

Since making the last post, I've visited a few unis, quite liking the idea of chem eng, and then I realised the possibility of doing a AS Biology, which would allow me to meet the entry requirements for dentistry (for like 3/4 unis)
I've now got my new timetable with Biology on it (and this messed a few things up so I'm in new classes for nearly everything)

To hopefully remove the doubt about Dentistry (whether or not it'd be interesting to do as a job, rather than learn about) I'm going to a hands on course next week, which should provide an insight into what kinds of things I'd do.

Ony thing is what I'd do if I don't like it. Probably carry on as I am//drop the bio and continue with 3 subjects and apply for chem eng
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Not everyone gets to choose the job they love, and not everyone gets to earn a lot doing what they love. It's a cynical view point, but coming from someone who lives in a developing country, lots of people here take jobs (that pay well, so that necessitates taking a degree towards said well-paying job) that they don't necessarily love to earn money to support themselves and their family. I think what's important is that you find something (even a little thing) to like about whatever you're doing.
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I've been told JS is a bit of a rubbish language in the real world
Oh really? I know some developers who would disagree.

To help strength my claim, here's an experiment:
1. Download and install Firefox
2. Install the NoScript add-on (find it in the add-on directory in Firefox)
3. Make sure it is set to "Forbid Scripts Globally". Usually this is on by default.
4. Surf around and see how many sites where their content doesn't work right, doesn't display right, etc.

That's the real world.

I will say that JavaScript is misused and miscoded (i.e. poorly written) sometimes, thereby giving the impression of rubbish.
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I will say that JavaScript is misused and miscoded (i.e. poorly written) sometimes, thereby giving the impression of rubbish.
Yeah, that's what I had been told and meant to say in my post. Although I didn't realise that a lot of sites still use it
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