Rooting rogers magic questions/problems

samuelmaskell · August 3rd, 2009, 01:08 AM

Hello,
I'm considering rooting my magic and there are a few things I'd like to ask first.

Model number: HTC Magic
Firmware version: 1.5
Baseband version: 62.525.20.18U_3.22.20.17
Kernel version: 2.6.27-dd62d1eb u70000@Android-X01 )
Build number: 2.16.61.6 146733 CL#33776 release-keys

I have a Rogers non-google branded phone with 288mb ram(version 32a)
In a cmd prompt when I typed adb devices it said
"list of devices attached
HT95MNK00979 device"

so anyway.. my first question is, if I screw up, what happens? How likely is it that I will be able to fix it? I have a 2 year warranty so can I sent it in to rogers and have them reflash the original rom?

I was thinking of using this guide. HowardForums: Your Mobile Phone Community & Resource - The Offical "How do I do techie stuff" Thread
it seems pretty easy to follow but I was wondering if there are any better/easier/more up to date walkthroughs out there for the rogers magic. any one have one they thing is better?

does it sound like I have everything set up right judging by what came up when I typed adb devices?

it says, "grab fastboot.exe from here (HTC - Support - Flashing your Android Dev Phone with a Factory System Image) and place it in the tools directory of the sdk." There is already a fastbook.exe in the tools directory of my sdk. Should I replace it? I may have put it in there a while ago when I first installed the sdk but I don't think I did..

it says, " [optional]. make a backup with nandroid". How exactly do I do this? I've screen shots of the device where it says something about a nandroid backup. will the option to make a backup just show up on my screen? can I just move it from my sd card to my computer after that?

do I do all of this with the device in fastboot? It doesn't really say in the walkthrough..

at what point can I not return?

what rom will I end up with at the end? just the original rogers rom except with root access?

Thanks so much for your help,
Samuel Maskell

samuelmaskell · August 3rd, 2009, 01:22 AM

Do I need to format my sd card before doing any of this?

samuelmaskell · August 3rd, 2009, 03:40 AM

is there any reason I couldn't do what the guy does in this video?
YouTube - How To Root your HTC Magic (www.TheUnlockr.com)

the only command he ever types is fastboot boot daldroid-recovery.img
in the first tutorial I posted a link to, he says to type a few different commands
why would this be?

any idea what phone that guy is using? it's not the rogers one but it is still 32A. Ion I guess? this procedure should still work with the rogers version, right?

samuelmaskell · August 3rd, 2009, 03:45 AM

I figured out what the difference is..
"17. Once the phone reboots, you have root and are running a custom ROM already (I choose the most stable for you)!"

what if I don't want this rom? is it best to do it the way the guy does it in the first tutorial I posted a link to?

xiutian · August 3rd, 2009, 04:09 AM

I used this guide YouTube - Root HTC MAGIC - how to written tutorial. Go into the youtube page itself for the written guide.

You can use any recovery and ROM that is meant for PVT32A boards.

xiutian · August 3rd, 2009, 04:22 AM

I have a Rogers non-google branded phone with 288mb ram(version 32a)
In a cmd prompt when I typed adb devices it said
"list of devices attached
HT95MNK00979 device"

so anyway.. my first question is, if I screw up, what happens? How likely is it that I will be able to fix it? I have a 2 year warranty so can I sent it in to rogers and have them reflash the original rom?

I've screwed it up a couple of times. As long as you can boot into recovery and fastboot, you can just go through the whole process again and restore your backup.

I was thinking of using this guide. HowardForums: Your Mobile Phone Community & Resource - The Offical "How do I do techie stuff" Thread
it seems pretty easy to follow but I was wondering if there are any better/easier/more up to date walkthroughs out there for the rogers magic. any one have one they thing is better?

Posted the link to the guide that I used in the above post.

does it sound like I have everything set up right judging by what came up when I typed adb devices?

Yup

it says, "grab fastboot.exe from here (HTC - Support - Flashing your Android Dev Phone with a Factory System Image) and place it in the tools directory of the sdk." There is already a fastbook.exe in the tools directory of my sdk. Should I replace it? I may have put it in there a while ago when I first installed the sdk but I don't think I did..

If you've got fastboot in there already, there's no need to replace it.

it says, " [optional]. make a backup with nandroid". How exactly do I do this? I've screen shots of the device where it says something about a nandroid backup. will the option to make a backup just show up on my screen? can I just move it from my sd card to my computer after that?

Once you've booted into the recovery, you'll be able to do a nandroid backup from there. It will be in the list of options. It will perform a backup which is saved on your sd card. You don't have to move it to the computer but I'm paranoid and actually backed up the backups on my PC.

do I do all of this with the device in fastboot? It doesn't really say in the walkthrough..

You go into the fastboot only to be able to boot your phone into the recovery mode.

at what point can I not return?

When you click to apply the update.

what rom will I end up with at the end? just the original rogers rom except with root access?

Depends on which ROM you choose to flash to

Thanks so much for your help,
Samuel Maskell

samuelmaskell · August 4th, 2009, 12:15 AM

this has been very helpful. thank you. however, I still have some questions.

my sd card is already formatted to fat32. do I need to format it again or can I just leave it the way it is?

some tutorials talk about wiping it first. do I need to do this?

how do I know if I need to update the radio?

in the link you posted, it is a different method again. why are they all different?

Thanks again,
Samuel Maskell

xiutian · August 4th, 2009, 12:46 AM

No you won't need to format again, unless you intend to make 2 partitions (sorry can't help you with that, I'm struggling with that myself)

Yes you should wipe. Remember to do your nandroid backup first.

You don't need to in most cases but I did mine cos I wanted to try pushing some unsigned files into the phone.

I don't think they are actually very different, probably worded differently?

Tiago Lopes · August 4th, 2009, 03:51 AM

Hi people, i am a new member here, i have a HTC MAGIC a 4 days and i like this machine.
I´m from Guarda (Portugal).

I would like to now i can i put a "GPS software of-line" in my phone???

Thanks

samuelmaskell · August 5th, 2009, 06:19 PM

I have no idea what you are asking..
I'm not sorry. I don't mean to be rude or anything. I just can't understand what you are saying.

noonehereyet · August 5th, 2009, 07:58 PM

for the exact process of rooting Rogers phones go here Rogers, heres your real root - xda-developers

samuelmaskell · August 5th, 2009, 08:24 PM

1. why do I need a new radio?
2. does it matter what recovery.img I use? I can't use the one he has there because I have a magic, not a dream
3. what do I do with the spl?
4. I can't "alt+s". I don't have a keyboard
5. "power off, hold camera button, power on, press the back arrow to get into "fastboot" mode". I don't have a camera button or a back arrow.
6. Why is this completely different from anything I've ever seen?

noonehereyet · August 5th, 2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samuelmaskell

1. why do I need a new radio?
2. does it matter what recovery.img I use? I can't use the one he has there because I have a magic, not a dream
3. what do I do with the spl?
4. I can't "alt+s". I don't have a keyboard
5. "power off, hold camera button, power on, press the back arrow to get into "fastboot" mode". I don't have a camera button or a back arrow.
6. Why is this completely different from anything I've ever seen?

1) its important to have the latest radio to avoid bricking the phone

2) Yes it matters what .img you use as they are not the same they differ slightly for every model phone...

3) The SPL aka Bootloader is used for intalling and running modded/ported builds and you need to flash it as the instructions say...

4) this is why you need the SPECIFIC recovery.img!

5) yes you do have a back arrow/return button its the one with the little arrow pointing to the left....

6) its completely different then what youve seen because again not everyphone or model is made the same and hence can not be rooted the same...

xiutian · August 5th, 2009, 08:58 PM

The link posted by noonehereyet is something totally new, it basically turns our 32a phone into a 32b.

xiutian · August 5th, 2009, 09:47 PM

From the reactions here I think it's best if we 32a owners don't try this new mod.

samuelmaskell · August 6th, 2009, 01:45 AM

yeah, definitely not doing that. Thanks for the heads up.

Noonehereyet, please don't post things you haven't tried yourself. I can find tutorials myself. I'm not an idiot. I came here because I wanted some first hand advice.

samuelmaskell · August 7th, 2009, 07:14 PM

so I tried both of those methods and neither worked at all
when I clicked apply sdcard: update.zip it came up with something like this both times

"-- Install from sdcard...
Finding update package
E: Can't mout /dev/blcok/mmcblk0p1 (or /dev.blcok/mmcblk0)
(No such file or directory)
E: Can't mount SDCARD: update.zip
Installation aborted"

any idea why this would happen? I haven't the slightest clue.
any help would be greatly appreciated

thanks,
Samuel Maskell

xiutian · August 7th, 2009, 08:13 PM

It takes some time for the sd card to mount, so wait for a minute or so to allow it to mount.

samuelmaskell · August 7th, 2009, 08:16 PM

Wait when?

xiutian · August 7th, 2009, 09:35 PM

When the phone first boots up into recovery mode, wait a bit before clicking apply. Or else, you can actually just keep clicking until it sticks

samuelmaskell · August 8th, 2009, 09:16 PM

tried it again
this time it said this.

"E: Can't open /sdcard/update.zip (bad)
Installation aborted."

frig..

samuelmaskell · August 8th, 2009, 09:37 PM

Alright, I did it the Howardforums way. Worked like a charm.

Now the question is.. what now?
Are there any fully functional hero roms for the 32a magic?
Apps2sd is something I'll want I guess. Market babbler too. Anything else?

xiutian · August 8th, 2009, 11:56 PM

No there isn't, all have BT issues. Apps2SD isn't really needed, plus I can't get it to work

If you are in a region where you don't get paid apps in the market, then you'll need Market Enabler.

With that you can get Bluex and Screenshot.

Lobo · August 9th, 2009, 10:16 AM

so one of your original questions in this thread was(and i dont see answer to it) is the video shown by Unlockr.com going to work.. it looks straight forward.. so will it?

samuelmaskell · August 9th, 2009, 12:04 PM

I tried it and it didn't seem to work. The Howard forums way worked just fine though. I'm now running a hero Rom =]

UnderWhat? · August 9th, 2009, 01:20 PM

Can someone please tell me all the hype over the Hero ROM? Why is it SOOO good?

samuelmaskell · August 9th, 2009, 01:24 PM

Awesome UI, flash, multi-touch, cool widgets, better stock apps(contacts, music, etc.) It's just nice overall though there a couple things that don't seem to be working 100%.

UnderWhat? · August 9th, 2009, 02:50 PM

I thought the Magic doesn't support multitouch (even with mods)

Lobo · August 9th, 2009, 05:58 PM

what didnt work with the unlockr intructions.. sorry for going back on that one.. just seems the most straight forward one ive seen

Lobo · August 9th, 2009, 06:02 PM

and which hero rom did you end up choosing.. the JacHero or the Fatal1ty one?

xiutian · August 9th, 2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderWhat?

I thought the Magic doesn't support multitouch (even with mods)

Magic on Hero ROM would have multitouch, but would have BT issues.

samuelmaskell · August 9th, 2009, 10:36 PM

I already said what didn't work about the unlockr method.

it just came up with
"E: Can't open /sdcard/update.zip (bad)
Installation aborted."

I don't know why. I can't imagine that I did anything wrong as it seems extremely straight forward. I don't know. You may as well try it though. When I did it, it came up with that message and then didn't do anything. It definitely didn't screw anything up. If it doesn't work, try the howardforums method. I'd be happy to help you out with it.

I went with a modified version of fatal1ty's rom available here.
Rogers Rom Repository (Check Here for the Latest Rogers/32A Ports) - xda-developers
as far as I know it is the only hero rom that currently works with the rogers/32a magic. All the other ones are for the vodafone/32b magic.
Almost everything seems to work in this rom. The camera app only works in landscape. For some reason, when you hold the phone in portrait, the accelerometer kicks in and screw things up. oh well. Also, when you try to search your programs, the keyboard comes up for a sec but then it disappears and voice search comes up. It's a bit annoying but it's not like you're losing a standard feature. You're just not gaining a feature that you should be. Otherwise, everything seems to work. Bluetooth, wifi, multi-touch, flash, and all the apps/widgets. Everything seems fine. I haven't really noticed lag either. In some cases it does lag a bit but overall it's really not too bad. I'm also told that the lag will get better after using it a bit as it will cache some things.
I would definitely recommend it. There are minor issues but they are more than made up for by everything that you gain.

samuelmaskell · August 9th, 2009, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiutian

Magic on Hero ROM would have multitouch, but would have BT issues.

I don't know if there are other bluetooth issues but I managed to listen to music with my bluetooth headphones just fine. What issues have people had?

xiutian · August 10th, 2009, 01:41 AM

Doesn't seem to work for phone calls. I would like to try the JacHeroski one but I need BT to work so have been waiting it out.

Lobo · August 10th, 2009, 12:38 PM

ok thanks for the info.. the first video posted is for a 32a.. so will check it out i suppose

samuelmaskell · August 10th, 2009, 01:03 PM

You can install the camera from the rogers rom and it will then replace the stock hero camera. It works fine.

UnderWhat? · August 10th, 2009, 04:43 PM

Hey guys I rooted and got the CyanogenMod ROM and installed it. Now the only problem (major) i encountered so far is that my 3G network doesn't work! How can i fix this?

*edit* Just flashed a different ROM because I couldn't fix 3G.

Also it CONSTANTLY flickers from 3G to H, is that normal?

Lobo · August 11th, 2009, 01:23 PM

yes thats normal if your with Rogers... tried theunlockr method to root phone and im stuck on ROGERS screen now... arggghh

Lobo · August 11th, 2009, 04:03 PM

ok.. i followed the unlockr method above.. after the rooting step my phone was stuck on the rogers screen.. tried lots of things and nothing worked.. so i thought wth might as well try the add rom video put the jachero rom on and it booted right up and works great.. will repost later if i find anyglitchs

UnderWhat? · August 11th, 2009, 05:40 PM

Try to howard forums method. That's what I used...

http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1545226

Mine is also Rogers 32A