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Old October 6th, 2012, 02:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hope this goes through. Didn't know Sprint may get involved. Hope not, they have sorry coverage.
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So this will only effect the 4g coverage and not phone signal in general correct? Would be nice if I could get more then 1 bar on a good day at my house..
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This will be an addiction to VoLTE
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Doesn't that mean we'd get a radio update?
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just firmware
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Volte I figured but wondering the same thing as shiny..
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I think this merger is going to be a bad thing for metropcs users.
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I think this merger is going to be a bad thing for metropcs users.
only if unlimited + unthrottled goes by the wayside-- which i really doubt...

even raising of prices i doubt....

looks like win-win....
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Well lets no forget but sprint is still going to bid on a better deal trying to get metro from t mobile

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I hope not. Where I live I have better coverage with metro than I do with T-Mobile, Sprint or AT&T.
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Because t-mobile stinks for one, and two when a larger company ie T-mobile buys/merges with a smaller company ie Metro pcs, the smaller company dissolves over time. T-mobile is a contract provider, they have their own small "prepaid" that stinks, Metro Pcs is really the only one of its kind, its no contract but yet somewhat larger then other "prepaid" carriers. Its the only no contract carrier that has true 4g lte, T-mobile a contract carrier doesn't even have 4g lte yet. Prices are going to rise, the conversion of the networks is going to bottle neck the speeds. I don't see anything good in this merger for metro users.

People are saying oh metro will have better phones. HAVE YOU PEOPLE LOOKED AT THE PREPAID PHONES THESE CONTRACT CARRIERS OFFER? they suck. Most of them are worst than what metro pcs carries. Hell we are getting the SGS3. I don't see that on any of the list of prepaid phones.
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Because t-mobile stinks for one, and two when a larger company ie T-mobile buys/merges with a smaller company ie Metro pcs, the smaller company dissolves over time. T-mobile is a contract provider, they have their own small "prepaid" that stinks, Metro Pcs is really the only one of its kind, its no contract but yet somewhat larger then other "prepaid" carriers. Its the only no contract carrier that has true 4g lte, T-mobile a contract carrier doesn't even have 4g lte yet. Prices are going to rise, the conversion of the networks is going to bottle neck the speeds. I don't see anything good in this merger for metro users.

People are saying oh metro will have better phones. HAVE YOU PEOPLE LOOKED AT THE PREPAID PHONES THESE CONTRACT CARRIERS OFFER? they suck. Most of them are worst than what metro pcs carries. Hell we are getting the SGS3. I don't see that on any of the list of prepaid phones.
I personally think its bad for Metro users. It's obvious Tmob bought Metro for LTE. Does anyone honestly think they care about loosing any of the 9mil metro users? No. With that said when Metro gets dropped in 2015 you will either make the move to Tmobile and choose one of their plans or not. Sure T mobile might offer new and better pre paid plans by then BUT they dont have to. Why would they? They have the upper hand. Basically pay what they want or dont, they wont care either way because they will have LTE.

It sucks because Metro was in a league of its own with the hope of only getting bigger and better by itself with the upcoming release of the S3.

Luckily, bring your own device plans are all over the place so finding 4G service for the cheap isn't a problem.
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I personally think its bad for Metro users. It's obvious Tmob bought Metro for LTE. Does anyone honestly think they care about loosing any of the 9mil metro users? No. With that said when Metro gets dropped in 2015 you will either make the move to Tmobile and choose one of their plans or not. Sure T mobile might offer new and better pre paid plans by then BUT they dont have to. Why would they? They have the upper hand. Basically pay what they want or dont, they wont care either way because they will have LTE.

It sucks because Metro was in a league of its own with the hope of only getting bigger and better by itself with the upcoming release of the S3.

Luckily, bring your own device plans are all over the place so finding 4G service for the cheap isn't a problem.
havnt seen any other 4g plans for cheap on other carriers, they all want about $100 or more per line. Ill go with out a cellphone before i pay that much for one line.
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havnt seen any other 4g plans for cheap on other carriers, they all want about $100 or more per line. Ill go with out a cellphone before i pay that much for one line.
Me either but that's why Ill never choose a contract. Pre paid and BYOD is the only way to go for me.
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So I'm guessing metro pcs really going to be shut down
T-Mobile, MetroPCS and why it may work
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That it will. I figured that from the start when all the Metro press releases all said "We'll continue to operate UNTIL the merge is fully completed." Funny how MetroPCS NEVER talked about after.
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Does anyone honestly think they care about loosing any of the 9mil metro users? No.
Yes. 9 million metro users, plus or minus, times $40 aveage per month is how much capital coming into T-Mobile? If it was my company I'd try to keep the new customers as happy as I could.
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T-Mobile, MetroPCS and why it may work
It says right in the article:
"T-Mobile’s CTO, Neville Ray says that the key to the success of both these companies is their path pursuing LTE. The next step will be that T-Mobile will migrate MetroPCS customers to equipment that use T-Mobile’s network."

"From day one, T-Mobile expects to start selling phones that have the MetroPCS brand, but use T-Mobile’s network. After migrating existing subscribers off of MetroPCS’s CDMA network, it will be shut down and the spectrum will be used to deploy LTE service. The process may take a couple years to complete."

I was in a local metro store buying my Esteem last October when a customer came in with an ancient flip phone looking for a battery.
That is the type of customer they'll have to convert to LTE.
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we've already gone over this.

metro isnt going anywhere and the phonearena article confirms it even more so.

i also wouldnt be worried about the sprint offer being that metro has no intention of being swallowed up. they'll have to offer them a similar deal to tmobile's and if metro feels that sprint will botch things up like they did with nextel metro wont agree to a deal with sprint.

we're gonna be fine.
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That it will. I figured that from the start when all the Metro press releases all said "We'll continue to operate UNTIL the merge is fully completed." Funny how MetroPCS NEVER talked about after.
well, let me ask you this:

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Upon completion of the combination, the new combined company will be called T-Mobile, and will continue to operate MetroPCS and T-Mobile as separate customer units.
Deutsche Telekom and T-Mobile have announced publicly that they intend to grow the MetroPCS brand, both through extension into new geographic areas and through the introduction of a broader product portfolio into our existing network.
what do you take "upon completion of the combination" to mean?
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what do you take "upon completion of the combination" to mean?

No Disrespect, but you apparently know nothing about corporate mergers. They always say the two entities will be separate, but in the end the larger one ends up consuming the smaller one. Metropcs will disappear with in the next few years. Once the merger havens I'll be dropping my service. I refuse to ever go back to T-mobile.
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No Disrespect, but you apparently know nothing about corporate mergers. They always say the two entities will be separate, but in the end the larger one ends up consuming the smaller one. Metropcs will disappear with in the next few years. Once the merger havens I'll be dropping my service. I refuse to ever go back to T-mobile.
really?

seems like people are making the assumption that because CDMA will be shut down that metroPCS will close its doors. metro were planning on doing this anyway to make way for voLTE. were they planning their own demise as a company?

T-mobile will own metro in the same way sprint owns boost and virgin. we share spectrum and we get their phones. they run contract while we run non contract. the only thing that disappears is CDMA and metro position as a independent company.
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Yeah, I'm having to agree with everyone else, let metro stand alone. A merger would be bad news. Just checked out tmo's phones & they're garbage. The only phones worth anything are the S2 &3. If I have to I'll go back to Boost. They have the S2 now, & that's a darn good phone
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seems like people are making the assumption that because CDMA will be shut down that metroPCS will close its doors. metro were planning on doing this anyway to make way for voLTE. were they planning their own demise as a company?

T-mobile will own metro in the same way sprint owns boost and virgin. we share spectrum and we get their phones. they run contract while we run non contract. the only thing that disappears is CDMA and metro position as a independent company.
Actually Boost gets their own phones. They don't have access to Sprint phones, only their antennas.
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Actually Boost gets their own phones. They don't have access to Sprint phones, only their antennas.
which is why i dont think metro would take a deal with sprint now.
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what do you take "upon completion of the combination" to mean?
I'm going off Metro's official announcement.

"However, until the transaction is complete, MetroPCS and T-Mobile will be, and continue to operate as, independent companies."


then this

"According to the Wall Street Journal, both networks will keep running until the end of 2015, when the MetroPCS network will be shut down. That means MetroPCS consumers won’t have to rush out and get a new phone any time soon. And when customers do have to buy a new phone, they will be automatically moved over to T-Mobile’s network."



But honestly it doesn't matter. Got a long time till anything happens so A LOT could and will prolly change.
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I'm going off Metro's official announcement.

"However, until the transaction is complete, MetroPCS and T-Mobile will be, and continue to operate as, independent companies."


then this

"According to the Wall Street Journal, both networks will keep running until the end of 2015, when the MetroPCS network will be shut down. That means MetroPCS consumers won’t have to rush out and get a new phone any time soon. And when customers do have to buy a new phone, they will be automatically moved over to T-Mobile’s network."



But honestly it doesn't matter. Got a long time till anything happens so A LOT could and will prolly change.
yep... i say the best thing we could do is just wait and see and like everyone else know...nothing will happen just yet so keep on enjoying metro and get ready to buy the s3
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I'm going off Metro's official announcement.

"However, until the transaction is complete, MetroPCS and T-Mobile will be, and continue to operate as, independent companies."


then this

"According to the Wall Street Journal, both networks will keep running until the end of 2015, when the MetroPCS network will be shut down. That means MetroPCS consumers won’t have to rush out and get a new phone any time soon. And when customers do have to buy a new phone, they will be automatically moved over to T-Mobile’s network."



But honestly it doesn't matter. Got a long time till anything happens so A LOT could and will prolly change.
you have to click on the "list of frequently asked questions" link to get to the part i quoted.

yes, metro's network will be shut down, not their business. metro phones will run on tmobiles network and metro's CDMA will be turned off and refarmed to match tmobile bands. the brand will remain in tact under the tmobile unbrella.

here's another interesting article on the merger.

T-Mobile CEO: MetroPCS deal is no Sprint-Nextel repeat | Mobile - CNET News

tmobile has the S3 and will be getting the note 2. they dont have the HTC one x though.
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Think how far phones have came since we bought the LG Esteem last year. In the time it takes for the merger to happen the next great phone will have came and gone.
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Oh yeah for sure.

I've never been one to buy phones when they release mainly because it only takes a short time before the price drops. So its safe to say I'll sell my Nexus in a year, get the one that's about to come out, get the one after that and around that time the merger will be fully completed and who knows, i might end up back on Mpcs by then. haha
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Patiently waiting to see what T -Mobile 4G LTE network is all about as it sounds promising, but I could care less about they're fake, wannabe 4G network they have been and are currently promoting.
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Patiently waiting to see what T -Mobile 4G LTE network is all about as it sounds promising, but I could care less about they're fake, wannabe 4G network they have been and are currently promoting.

I really dont understand your thought process on this. Yes, LTE is able to produce fast and much higher speeds and is obviously the "prestige" but if your getting 1-3Mbps of LTE vs 8-10 Mbps of HSPA, then obviously HSPA is the faster service within that specific area. Speeds are speeds it's just that one is ABLE to be faster than the other. There's no difference in 5Mbps of LTE and 5Mbps of HSPA. It's the same speed. Coverage for those speeds now is a different story.

Now a BIG difference between say 5Mbps LTE vs. 5Mbps HSPA is battery consumption. LTE uses up a lot more battery than non LTE radios even at producing the same speeds. Even 5Mbps LTE uses more battery than 10Mbps HSPA. So in turn you have double the 4G speeds with less the consumption of battery.

But being that LTE can produce faster top end speeds than any other non lte radio, it will become the standard.
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Tmob is a publicly-traded company with downward numbers and this close to either going down or getting sold by its parent-- it would be suicide to lose metro customers...their share price is dependent on increasing numbers.
And guess which is the industry segment increasing customers? Hint, it ain't postpaid.
We will always get taken care of, so please stop worrying people.

Now, switch TMob for any other large carrier and i would too be shi++ing bricks.

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Hmmm I better keep eyes peeled for LG Motion firmware
Everybody's doing the LGMotion...come on baby, do the LGMotion.
My little baby sister can do it with ease.
So come on, come on and do...the LGMotion with me!
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Tmob is a publicly-traded company with downward numbers and this close to either going down or getting sold by its parent-- it would be suicide to lose metro customers...their share price is dependent on increasing numbers.
And guess which is the industry segment increasing customers? Hint, it ain't postpaid.
We will always get taken care of, so please stop worrying people.

Now, switch TMob for any other large carrier and i would too be shi++ing bricks.

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you are absolutely right just read my post in tmobile/metro talks.
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I think this merger is going to be a bad thing for metropcs users.
You could be right.

With no Metro-less competition.

And will a corporation spend all that money just to offer us the same low cost Plans and service?

Hopefully yes- but the Merger announcement just as Metro offers Motion 4G and the Galaxy S3 and the great 4G plans makes no sense to me for Metro expansion and may not be in the best interest of the Metro Brand and it's customers and Dealers and Employees since it raises doubts.

I like Metro and hope it grows and continues but wonder......
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You could be right.

With no Metro-less competition.

And will a corporation spend all that money just to offer us the same low cost Plans and service?

Hopefully yes- but the Merger announcement just as Metro offers Motion 4G and the Galaxy S3 and the great 4G plans makes no sense to me for Metro expansion and may not be in the best interest of the Metro Brand and it's customers and Dealers and Employees since it raises doubts.

I like Metro and hope it grows and continues but wonder......
That's what confused me. About to launch a flash ship device and then the signing of the merge happens. Idk. I wish they would just fully reveal their real intentions and plans but i guess any thing and everything could change overnight which would be a logical reason not to i suppose.

We'll know soon enough. Our makes me wonder though when metro and tmob employees tell you to hold off buying the s3. 500 and something dollar phone and they tell their customers to wait. Lol. Makes you wonder.
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You could be right.

With no Metro-less competition.

And will a corporation spend all that money just to offer us the same low cost Plans and service?

Hopefully yes- but the Merger announcement just as Metro offers Motion 4G and the Galaxy S3 and the great 4G plans makes no sense to me for Metro expansion and may not be in the best interest of the Metro Brand and it's customers and Dealers and Employees since it raises doubts.

I like Metro and hope it grows and continues but wonder......
nothing is going to happen to metro's CDMA network until 2015. if you want the S3, go get it. by 2015 the galaxy S6 will be out and you wont be able to sell your S3 for more than $100 whether the merger happened or not. the only reason i've changed my mind in getting the S3 is because this merger means i might be able to get the s4 or the optimus G on metro through tmobile when the merger is final. their are small rumors that the optimus G was coming to metro regardless.

those who are locked in to their current plans will more than likely be grandfathered. the $55 promo is just that, a promo. while it is totally open ended i doubt they're gonna have this plan by the time this merger actually happens but who knows, they're still running the $25 dumbphone plan.

tmobile owns metro. a metro sale is a tmobile profit. it only benefits tmobile to keep metro's plans as attractive as they have been.
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those who are locked in to their current plans will more than likely be grandfathered. the $55 promo is just that, a promo. while it is totally open ended i doubt they're gonna have this plan by the time this merger actually happens but who knows, they're still running the $25 dumbphone plan.
I am unclear here.

For example, I hear about some who are on a $60 plan with unlimited Rhapsody that they still have though the plan isn't offered (?) anymore to new members.

If they ended the $55 "Promo", would everyone on it go to some other plan the next month no matter what? (ie; if for example we heard the $55 plan was ending a couple months before my Verizon contract was up that it wouldn't do me any good to get on the $55 plan while I still could?)

I don't understand. Sorry.

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I am unclear here.

For example, I hear about some who are on a $60 plan with unlimited Rhapsody that they still have though the plan isn't offered (?) anymore to new members.

If they ended the $55 "Promo", would everyone on it go to some other plan the next month no matter what? (ie; if for example we heard the $55 plan was ending a couple months before my Verizon contract was up that it wouldn't do me any good to get on the $55 plan while I still could?)

I don't understand. Sorry.

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being grandfathered means you ratain the plan you had with the same rates and services even if the plan is no longer offered.

i was initially on the $60 no limit all plan with metrostudio(bad choice, Mstudio sux). metro raised the price of the no limit all plan to $70 and the $60 plan became 5GB 4G. i continued to have no limit all at $60 despite the change in rate plans.

if i had switched my plan i would not be able to go back $60 no limit all as that plan was gone. i would have to pay $70 for no limit all.
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Does being a "Promo" plan mean the $55 Unl data plan is Less Likely to be grandfathered in or is that just a guess?

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Does being a "Promo" plan mean the $55 Unl data plan is Less Likely to be grandfathered in or is that just a guess?

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"promo" simply means the plan will be available for a limited time determined by the company. once you sign up to the plan you're locked in and will be on said plan for as long as you have your account, whether the plan is still available or not.
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A promo plan is literally a promotional plan meant to bring in customers and $55 flat a month for unlimited talk, text and 4G LTE data is a nice promotion.

They can not pick and choose plans to be grandfathered in. Once you've got the plan you keep the plan until you change the plan and then you can't go back to your old plan.
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