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MetroPCS handsets will be able to connect to T-Mobile 4G LTE if merger is approved | PhoneDog

jtw1216

Hope this goes through. Didn't know Sprint may get involved. Hope not, they have sorry coverage.

travioso

So this will only effect the 4g coverage and not phone signal in general correct? Would be nice if I could get more then 1 bar on a good day at my house..

Jeyd02

This will be an addiction to VoLTE

nailzer

Addiction?

ShinySide

Doesn't that mean we'd get a radio update?

PlayfulGod

just firmware

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travioso

Volte I figured but wondering the same thing as shiny..

n4zty

i say F it! let it go through. lol

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Addition. LOL...

bnb25

I think this merger is going to be a bad thing for metropcs users.

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horsecharles

only if unlimited + unthrottled goes by the wayside-- which i really doubt...

even raising of prices i doubt....

looks like win-win....

mrpnut

Well lets no forget but sprint is still going to bid on a better deal trying to get metro from t mobile

Sprint may bid for MetroPCS, blocking T-Mobile deal | Brier Dudley's Blog | The Seattle Times

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nailzer

I hope not. Where I live I have better coverage with metro than I do with T-Mobile, Sprint or AT&T.

THE W

because...?

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bnb25

Because t-mobile stinks for one, and two when a larger company ie T-mobile buys/merges with a smaller company ie Metro pcs, the smaller company dissolves over time. T-mobile is a contract provider, they have their own small "prepaid" that stinks, Metro Pcs is really the only one of its kind, its no contract but yet somewhat larger then other "prepaid" carriers. Its the only no contract carrier that has true 4g lte, T-mobile a contract carrier doesn't even have 4g lte yet. Prices are going to rise, the conversion of the networks is going to bottle neck the speeds. I don't see anything good in this merger for metro users.

People are saying oh metro will have better phones. HAVE YOU PEOPLE LOOKED AT THE PREPAID PHONES THESE CONTRACT CARRIERS OFFER? they suck. Most of them are worst than what metro pcs carries. Hell we are getting the SGS3. I don't see that on any of the list of prepaid phones.

Last edited by bnb25; October 6th, 2012 at 11:13 PM.

Fuzzy13

I personally think its bad for Metro users. It's obvious Tmob bought Metro for LTE. Does anyone honestly think they care about loosing any of the 9mil metro users? No. With that said when Metro gets dropped in 2015 you will either make the move to Tmobile and choose one of their plans or not. Sure T mobile might offer new and better pre paid plans by then BUT they dont have to. Why would they? They have the upper hand. Basically pay what they want or dont, they wont care either way because they will have LTE.

It sucks because Metro was in a league of its own with the hope of only getting bigger and better by itself with the upcoming release of the S3.

Luckily, bring your own device plans are all over the place so finding 4G service for the cheap isn't a problem.

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bnb25

havnt seen any other 4g plans for cheap on other carriers, they all want about $100 or more per line. Ill go with out a cellphone before i pay that much for one line.

Fuzzy13

Me either but that's why Ill never choose a contract. Pre paid and BYOD is the only way to go for me.

storm21

So I'm guessing metro pcs really going to be shut down
T-Mobile, MetroPCS and why it may work

Fuzzy13

That it will. I figured that from the start when all the Metro press releases all said "We'll continue to operate UNTIL the merge is fully completed." Funny how MetroPCS NEVER talked about after.

nailzer

Yes. 9 million metro users, plus or minus, times $40 aveage per month is how much capital coming into T-Mobile? If it was my company I'd try to keep the new customers as happy as I could.

nailzer

It says right in the article:
"T-Mobile’s CTO, Neville Ray says that the key to the success of both these companies is their path pursuing LTE. The next step will be that T-Mobile will migrate MetroPCS customers to equipment that use T-Mobile’s network."

"From day one, T-Mobile expects to start selling phones that have the MetroPCS brand, but use T-Mobile’s network. After migrating existing subscribers off of MetroPCS’s CDMA network, it will be shut down and the spectrum will be used to deploy LTE service. The process may take a couple years to complete."

I was in a local metro store buying my Esteem last October when a customer came in with an ancient flip phone looking for a battery.
That is the type of customer they'll have to convert to LTE.

THE W

we've already gone over this.

metro isnt going anywhere and the phonearena article confirms it even more so.

i also wouldnt be worried about the sprint offer being that metro has no intention of being swallowed up. they'll have to offer them a similar deal to tmobile's and if metro feels that sprint will botch things up like they did with nextel metro wont agree to a deal with sprint.

we're gonna be fine.

Last edited by THE W; October 7th, 2012 at 08:16 AM.

THE W

well, let me ask you this:

http://www.metropcs.com/metro/support/faqTemplatePage.jsp?whichFAQ=About%20T-Mobile%20Combo

what do you take "upon completion of the combination" to mean?

bnb25

No Disrespect, but you apparently know nothing about corporate mergers. They always say the two entities will be separate, but in the end the larger one ends up consuming the smaller one. Metropcs will disappear with in the next few years. Once the merger havens I'll be dropping my service. I refuse to ever go back to T-mobile.

THE W

really?

seems like people are making the assumption that because CDMA will be shut down that metroPCS will close its doors. metro were planning on doing this anyway to make way for voLTE. were they planning their own demise as a company?

T-mobile will own metro in the same way sprint owns boost and virgin. we share spectrum and we get their phones. they run contract while we run non contract. the only thing that disappears is CDMA and metro position as a independent company.

jtw1216

Yeah, I'm having to agree with everyone else, let metro stand alone. A merger would be bad news. Just checked out tmo's phones & they're garbage. The only phones worth anything are the S2 &3. If I have to I'll go back to Boost. They have the S2 now, & that's a darn good phone

jtw1216

Actually Boost gets their own phones. They don't have access to Sprint phones, only their antennas.

THE W

which is why i dont think metro would take a deal with sprint now.

Fuzzy13

I'm going off Metro's official announcement.

"However, until the transaction is complete, MetroPCS and T-Mobile will be, and continue to operate as, independent companies."


then this

"According to the Wall Street Journal, both networks will keep running until the end of 2015, when the MetroPCS network will be shut down. That means MetroPCS consumers won’t have to rush out and get a new phone any time soon. And when customers do have to buy a new phone, they will be automatically moved over to T-Mobile’s network."



But honestly it doesn't matter. Got a long time till anything happens so A LOT could and will prolly change.

Last edited by Fuzzy13; October 7th, 2012 at 11:57 AM.

storm21

yep... i say the best thing we could do is just wait and see and like everyone else know...nothing will happen just yet so keep on enjoying metro and get ready to buy the s3

THE W

you have to click on the "list of frequently asked questions" link to get to the part i quoted.

yes, metro's network will be shut down, not their business. metro phones will run on tmobiles network and metro's CDMA will be turned off and refarmed to match tmobile bands. the brand will remain in tact under the tmobile unbrella.

here's another interesting article on the merger.

T-Mobile CEO: MetroPCS deal is no Sprint-Nextel repeat | Mobile - CNET News

tmobile has the S3 and will be getting the note 2. they dont have the HTC one x though.

nailzer

Think how far phones have came since we bought the LG Esteem last year. In the time it takes for the merger to happen the next great phone will have came and gone.

Fuzzy13

Oh yeah for sure.

I've never been one to buy phones when they release mainly because it only takes a short time before the price drops. So its safe to say I'll sell my Nexus in a year, get the one that's about to come out, get the one after that and around that time the merger will be fully completed and who knows, i might end up back on Mpcs by then. haha

AndroidDroidOne

Patiently waiting to see what T -Mobile 4G LTE network is all about as it sounds promising, but I could care less about they're fake, wannabe 4G network they have been and are currently promoting.

Fuzzy13

I really dont understand your thought process on this. Yes, LTE is able to produce fast and much higher speeds and is obviously the "prestige" but if your getting 1-3Mbps of LTE vs 8-10 Mbps of HSPA, then obviously HSPA is the faster service within that specific area. Speeds are speeds it's just that one is ABLE to be faster than the other. There's no difference in 5Mbps of LTE and 5Mbps of HSPA. It's the same speed. Coverage for those speeds now is a different story.

Now a BIG difference between say 5Mbps LTE vs. 5Mbps HSPA is battery consumption. LTE uses up a lot more battery than non LTE radios even at producing the same speeds. Even 5Mbps LTE uses more battery than 10Mbps HSPA. So in turn you have double the 4G speeds with less the consumption of battery.

But being that LTE can produce faster top end speeds than any other non lte radio, it will become the standard.

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sammyz

Hmmm I better keep eyes peeled for LG Motion firmware

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horsecharles

Tmob is a publicly-traded company with downward numbers and this close to either going down or getting sold by its parent-- it would be suicide to lose metro customers...their share price is dependent on increasing numbers.
And guess which is the industry segment increasing customers? Hint, it ain't postpaid.
We will always get taken care of, so please stop worrying people.

Now, switch TMob for any other large carrier and i would too be shi++ing bricks.

It's all good.

horsecharles

Everybody's doing the LGMotion...come on baby, do the LGMotion.
My little baby sister can do it with ease.
So come on, come on and do...the LGMotion with me!

akikhia

you are absolutely right just read my post in tmobile/metro talks.

robertkoa

You could be right.

With no Metro-less competition.

And will a corporation spend all that money just to offer us the same low cost Plans and service?

Hopefully yes- but the Merger announcement just as Metro offers Motion 4G and the Galaxy S3 and the great 4G plans makes no sense to me for Metro expansion and may not be in the best interest of the Metro Brand and it's customers and Dealers and Employees since it raises doubts.

I like Metro and hope it grows and continues but wonder......

Fuzzy13

That's what confused me. About to launch a flash ship device and then the signing of the merge happens. Idk. I wish they would just fully reveal their real intentions and plans but i guess any thing and everything could change overnight which would be a logical reason not to i suppose.

We'll know soon enough. Our makes me wonder though when metro and tmob employees tell you to hold off buying the s3. 500 and something dollar phone and they tell their customers to wait. Lol. Makes you wonder.

THE W

yessir

THE W

nothing is going to happen to metro's CDMA network until 2015. if you want the S3, go get it. by 2015 the galaxy S6 will be out and you wont be able to sell your S3 for more than $100 whether the merger happened or not. the only reason i've changed my mind in getting the S3 is because this merger means i might be able to get the s4 or the optimus G on metro through tmobile when the merger is final. their are small rumors that the optimus G was coming to metro regardless.

those who are locked in to their current plans will more than likely be grandfathered. the $55 promo is just that, a promo. while it is totally open ended i doubt they're gonna have this plan by the time this merger actually happens but who knows, they're still running the $25 dumbphone plan.

tmobile owns metro. a metro sale is a tmobile profit. it only benefits tmobile to keep metro's plans as attractive as they have been.

OcalaFlGuy

I am unclear here.

For example, I hear about some who are on a $60 plan with unlimited Rhapsody that they still have though the plan isn't offered (?) anymore to new members.

If they ended the $55 "Promo", would everyone on it go to some other plan the next month no matter what? (ie; if for example we heard the $55 plan was ending a couple months before my Verizon contract was up that it wouldn't do me any good to get on the $55 plan while I still could?)

I don't understand. Sorry.

Bruce in Ocala, FL

THE W

being grandfathered means you ratain the plan you had with the same rates and services even if the plan is no longer offered.

i was initially on the $60 no limit all plan with metrostudio(bad choice, Mstudio sux). metro raised the price of the no limit all plan to $70 and the $60 plan became 5GB 4G. i continued to have no limit all at $60 despite the change in rate plans.

if i had switched my plan i would not be able to go back $60 no limit all as that plan was gone. i would have to pay $70 for no limit all.

OcalaFlGuy

Does being a "Promo" plan mean the $55 Unl data plan is Less Likely to be grandfathered in or is that just a guess?

Bruce in Ocala, FL

THE W

"promo" simply means the plan will be available for a limited time determined by the company. once you sign up to the plan you're locked in and will be on said plan for as long as you have your account, whether the plan is still available or not.

Joshb101

A promo plan is literally a promotional plan meant to bring in customers and $55 flat a month for unlimited talk, text and 4G LTE data is a nice promotion.

They can not pick and choose plans to be grandfathered in. Once you've got the plan you keep the plan until you change the plan and then you can't go back to your old plan.