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Old February 8th, 2013, 12:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Samsung Galaxy S4 is RUMORED to come out within the coming months. And its a pretty reliable rumor lol. Do you guys think that it will be available for us "Metro PCS" at launch or would we have to wait once again?

Im hoping that due to the merger with T-Mobile we would not have to wait at all

but you never know right?

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i dont see how a potential merger with tmobile would affect that, since we got teh sgs3 late and they dont want to flood teh market i would imagine it will too be late if at all
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Old February 8th, 2013, 01:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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at all!? why would you say that?

Basically i was going to buy the s3 at the end of the month but if the s4 comes with in the coming months i might as well wait...

But if it never comes... then idk what to do.
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i can only speculate, metro knows teh sgs3 was a huge hit, but whether or not they would be willing to so quickly look to have such an expensive phone i dont know.
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My guess it will hit metro, only that we will get it late like always.
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My guess it will hit metro, only that we will get it late like always.
Think we will wait till october again?
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After merger you can just buy 1 off contract @the tmobile store or even an Att or Tmobile unlocked version and still get full LTE/HSPA+. Don't think they'll make a metro CDMA version.
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If you guys noticed the pattern with metro they never get the high tech phones first, they let the bigger carriers get their fill and they when retail value of the phone comes down to a certain magic number oh i dont know lets say $500 thats when metro takes the plunge. do i see the s4 launching with a premium price of $500? hell no all flagship samsung phone hit those $700-$850 numbers and theres no way metro is gonna get a phone for their customers when is its as much as a mortgage payment. Keep in mind metro took a chance by raising the price tag at $500 with taxes and all $535. they saw that metro customers were willing to pay extra for such a phone , will they continue to raise the bar maybe $600 phones? its plausible but they would need a hell of a deal from such phone companies to buy so many devices so they can make a profit. keep in mind metro cant sell phones for same wholesale prices they get it for.Only once they have earned their investment money back then some will they be able to sell phones for cheaper prices. hint metro samsung galaxy s3 was launched in october 22 2012 for the price tag of $499 why do u think now they are being sold for $399? cuz they made their investment back plus more so now every sale of the galaxy s3 is pure profit. Bottom line $700-$800 phones dont have much room for metro to make any profit so they are forced to wait till prices drop.
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What the guy above me said..
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if it does come out i would hope it would be t-metropcs version..and not just a "metro" version... it would have to have something revolutionary on it for me to get it first day though..im still pretty content with the s3
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Yeah they're most likely not getting it at launch.
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by the time we get it the note 3 will be right around the corner.
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by the time we get it the note 3 will be right around the corner.
Would never get that, last rumor had screen size @6.3" thats way too big a phone for me. I think that rumored S4 screen @4.99" is just right since its just a lil bigger than S3

Looks real funny when I see people talking on "phablets"
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wanted to post in here as this should affect all metropcs owners who would be interested. my buddy and i did some research into it all. i recently found out you could buy unprogrammed/blank uicc cards from metro themselves. us cellular devices use teh same bands for LTE and we have reason to believe if you were to stick a metro uicc into a uscc sgs3 and have it programmed to be on metropcs it would work 100% (4g included).

now we cant say its for 100% but all the technical specs align up with our theory. if we are correct then regardless of if metropcs gets the sgs4/note 2/note 3 we could grab it from us cellular.

P.S. when i say programmed i mean lots of tricky backdoor stuff not allowed to be talked about on here, but im sure if you had a donor phone and a us cellular device you could find a guide
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Cricket Wireless also we use all the same bands as them
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indeed, but cricket tends to get crappier phones, the only perk to them is they sell their devices off contract so you can actually buy them from them, with us cellular id have to buy a phone from ebay. im not against that normally but with this kind of gamble...

im hopeing one day soon someone will find out for certain and it will open up a bunch of devices for anyone that wants em. as it is the cricket sgs3 is only $380, but im more interested in teh note 2 on metropcs.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 01:35 PM   #17 (permalink)
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this seems like something that wont be certain for quite some time. Like a really huge project or something.
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this seems like something that wont be certain for quite some time. Like a really huge project or something.
sadly id have to agree. teh samsung aviator isnt anything special but its on ebay for only 50 bucks. unfortunately you also need a 4g metro phone to get the info off of, so you are looking at least 100 bucks and even then there is no guaranteeing that device would work. ideally we could find a US cellular user who didnt mind trying this out and wa sin a metro coverage area as well :O
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Your current metro sim card would work in there though I can confirm theyre swappable
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is this in any way related to the unlocking of the metro S3 to other GSM networks here in the US?
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is this in any way related to the unlocking of the metro S3 to other GSM networks here in the US?
no nothing to do with that.


anyways guys im the current leader in an auction on ebay for a us cellular device that will let me test this theory, if it works then we can get all of their devices working great!
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no nothing to do with that.


anyways guys im the current leader in an auction on ebay for a us cellular device that will let me test this theory, if it works then we can get all of their devices working great!
That 'Metro' Note2 sounds GREAT.

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I believe metro has seen that their customers are willing to pay extra for better phones but like i said up above are we willing to pay 60-70% of retail value? maybe a handful of us in will say hell yea but thats not speaking for the majority on metro that still use a samsung indulge or a samsung admire since they cant afford to buy a new phone. i think its time metro introduced some sort of credit program or something or perhaps give us two types of service either service with contract or service without contract. each plan has its pros and cons "phone cost up front" just an idea dont ya go off on me im sure theres plenty of things that ya can say against it lol but if we want them $800 phones on our network we have to sacrifice something, samsung and lg are not gonna toss us a bone! its just business! also probaly metro pcs could start selling uicc cards like simple mobile does and just sell service, probaly will happen if merger ever goes through and we go completly VoLte. Again just some harmless thoughts nothing solid.
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We'll see about the S4 on the 14th since some exec. confirmed it, normally they release the list of carriers that's gonna be available on launch date.
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http://www.tmonews.com/2013/02/samsung-confirms-galaxy-s-iv-launch-event-for-march-14th/
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Have a thread right here SGS4 [INSTANT or ELONGATED]
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indeed, but cricket tends to get crappier phones, the only perk to them is they sell their devices off contract so you can actually buy them from them, with us cellular id have to buy a phone from ebay. im not against that normally but with this kind of gamble...

im hopeing one day soon someone will find out for certain and it will open up a bunch of devices for anyone that wants em. as it is the cricket sgs3 is only $380, but im more interested in teh note 2 on metropcs.

Yeah, I would love to have a note 2 also for metro. Buy that's a lotta money to drop in a test bed.
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A metro store near me does layaway of sorts I guess my told me she seen a poster for it when she paid her bill I haven't been in the store to see it I'd rather use the my metro app to pay my bill
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Are you sure whoever it is (that you mistyped) that allegedly saw this poster knows the difference between the number 3 and a 4?

I can't imagine how they'd see a poster for a phone that probably doesn't even exist yet.

IF Metro is ever getting the S4, they probably don't know now whether it'll say Metro on it or T-Mo as I don't think Anyone has Any Real Insight right now whether the merger will even go through or not. I doubt Metro puts the final specs sheet into Samsung for their model of the S4 until they know if the merger happens or not. (Now they may have say 3 different possible options already to go to Samsung depending on how the merger pans out but it's FAR from panned out Yet.)

Also someone usually digs out the FCC paperwork once they approve a new phone model. There has been zippidy doodah squatola released on Any Metro S4.

I'd bet money that any possible upcoming Metro S4 poster doesn't even exist yet.

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If you guys noticed the pattern with metro they never get the high tech phones first, they let the bigger carriers get their fill and they when retail value of the phone comes down to a certain magic number oh i dont know lets say $500 thats when metro takes the plunge. do i see the s4 launching with a premium price of $500? hell no all flagship samsung phone hit those $700-$850 numbers and theres no way metro is gonna get a phone for their customers when is its as much as a mortgage payment. Keep in mind metro took a chance by raising the price tag at $500 with taxes and all $535. they saw that metro customers were willing to pay extra for such a phone , will they continue to raise the bar maybe $600 phones? its plausible but they would need a hell of a deal from such phone companies to buy so many devices so they can make a profit. keep in mind metro cant sell phones for same wholesale prices they get it for.Only once they have earned their investment money back then some will they be able to sell phones for cheaper prices. hint metro samsung galaxy s3 was launched in october 22 2012 for the price tag of $499 why do u think now they are being sold for $399? cuz they made their investment back plus more so now every sale of the galaxy s3 is pure profit. Bottom line $700-$800 phones dont have much room for metro to make any profit so they are forced to wait till prices drop.
Really ive had my sg3 for 2 weeks and paid 500$ for it
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Well as I was stating poster was about layaway@ metro I didn't say any anything about sgs4 cause some 1 said some thing about gs3 being expensive
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I have a question.. If you pay your Bill through the mymetro app do you get charge the extra 2 or 3 dollars???
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Honestly no idea if the amount looks normal I pay its $66
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So let me get this straight...CRICKET?! Gets the GS4 on debut and not Metro?! WTH!!!!
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lol, shame we dont know if us cellular devices can be flashed to metro or not. would offer up some hope that the sgs4 could be ported over :P
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lol, shame we dont know if us cellular devices can be flashed to metro or not. would offer up some hope that the sgs4 could be ported over :P
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thats 3g, thats been around for a while and would be part of it. but my theory is posted above about getting 4g to work
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Oh yeah, I forgot about the 4G problem
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Seeing that the merger if approved is less than a month away they're probably waiting to see if the merger is approved so they can just have NewCo. secure the deal to sell the phones or if not approved they get the deal themselves. In the end it would save money & might even be better for the end user.
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I wouldn't be surprised IF Metro plans on introducing the S4 anytime soon that Sammy already has everything they need to know to build the Metro S4 and who knows may already be testing one. Stands to reason Metro would cover their bases and be ready to go whichever way the merger vote goes.

I wouldn't be holding my breath though.

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If you're implying that t-mobile and metropcs might sell the same phone, then I would be willing to bet money against it. Approving the merger is just the start. I would imagine they have at least half a year of work on the cell towers before they can even think of such things.
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If you're implying that t-mobile and metropcs might sell the same phone, then I would be willing to bet money against it. Approving the merger is just the start. I would imagine they have at least half a year of work on the cell towers before they can even think of such things.
I'm betting it will be 1-2 years of tower work 'before they can even think of such things'... but, I've been proven wrong before.
I thought I was wrong once... turns out I was right all along. lol
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Why wouldn't they sell the same phone with just different branding if the merger is completed? Thats what Sprint does to its prepaid. If you mean metropcs version has CDMA while the tmobile one doesnt, that would not happen they dont want to add people to the CDMA network.
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Hmm I think I see what you guys mean but why would it take them so long?
All they have to do is add the IMEI's for LTE to their tower database so our phones can authenticate it in places where they have LTE and then there they can shut down metropcs LTE in those places that overlap and add that capacity to the main LTE network.
Taken care of 1 network then they can have it where once there's barely any people with CDMA phones in a market (which shouldnt take too long @the current pace off migration to LTE) they can shut off the nearby CDMA towers then have a Sprint in market 3G roaming agreement till mid 2015. Then when the last CDMA tower goes off in mid 2015 they either force customers to switch phones or cancel the service which they're gonna do anyway.
Most of that is my idea and shows that it wouldn't take that long to get people off CDMA. So there's no need for different S4 versions.
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took sprint 7 years to kill the iden network of nextel and switch them to cdma. and will be 9 years in total to get it merged to were its being used for teh majority of sprints network.
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took sprint 7 years to kill the iden network of nextel and switch them to cdma. and will be 9 years in total to get it merged to were its being used for teh majority of sprints network.
Nextel had like 20mill customers when they merged with Sprint, metro has 9mill with 3mill of those already on LTE. Before the merger metro even said they think they could go full VoLTE within 4 years or so
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Here's the problem in simplified terms.
t-mobile = gsm
metropcs = cdma
the future of t-metro = lte (and probably gsm)

In the best case scenario, they could release the phone as gsm/lte.

Imagine you are a MetroPCS customer and upgrade from your SGS3 to the SGS4. Whoops! A lot of people who had coverage before (cdma areas) don't get coverage anymore(gsm areas).

That would cause them to lose a giant amount of customers for no good reason.

They could make it triple cdma/gsm/lte (which I think would be neat), but production costs would likely be too much.
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Hmm I think I see what you guys mean but why would it take them so long?
Because they need to make sure gsm or lte is guaranteed to be available in most of the areas that are currently only being served by cdma signals

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All they have to do is add the IMEI's for LTE to their tower database so our phones can authenticate it in places where they have LTE and then there they can shut down metropcs LTE in those places that overlap and add that capacity to the main LTE network.
T-mobile has no LTE. MetroPCS IS "the main LTE network". MetroPCS is 100% of the LTE network.
So there is no LTE overlap, and they aren't shutting down any LTE.
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