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Old December 9th, 2011, 01:38 AM   #101 (permalink)
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OK here is an update.

i spoke to Ritu, the supervisor of the R&D Dept, and was told that once the source code is manufacture modified, it becomes licensed and they are not liable to release it.

I spoke to Manish at the Technical Department and he agrees as well that they cannot deny the code if requested even if it has been modified by them.

This is some headway at the very least.

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OK here is an update.

i spoke to Ritu, the supervisor of the R&D Dept, and was told that once the source code is manufacture modified, it becomes licensed and they are not liable to release it.

I spoke to Manish at the Technical Department and he agrees as well that they cannot deny the code if requested even if it has been modified by them.

This is some headway at the very least.
Ritu should know that even if manufacture modified it they are liable to provide it.Better she should know what Open Source concept is.

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ritu might be newbie )
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She is. When i asked her does she know what does the GPL state she started stutturing. I made it clear to her that just by modifying a few lines to the frame work, it doesnt make it a propitiatory code. if they did that, they are liable to lose the licencing from Google for theft and that she and her department will be out of a job. Thats when she put me to Manish who was from the Spares Dept and he put me to Ashish who one of the developers.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 03:56 AM   #106 (permalink)
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& what they said?
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Old December 9th, 2011, 04:55 AM   #107 (permalink)
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they are nuts,they don't know what they are saying.they must get court notice and if they still behave too smart then anti micromax campaign will start so that nobody will buy their products and they have to stop selling android phones.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 05:06 AM   #108 (permalink)
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check out my comments on the facebook wall.

if you guys are gonna be fighting a faceless entity, you need to be prepared in all manners. Its time to start documenting all your requests, their replies and everything else.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 05:33 AM   #109 (permalink)
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another message from micromax


Micromax Mobile ‎@Aditya Deva We are already in the process of releasing the source code. Thanks for your patience!
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Old December 9th, 2011, 05:36 AM   #110 (permalink)
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Micromax Mobile ‎@Aditya Deva We are already in the process of releasing the source code. Thanks for your patience!

Whoa.
We have to polite with them now then only they reply.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 05:38 AM   #111 (permalink)
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hopefully we will be getting it as new year gift
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Old December 9th, 2011, 05:39 AM   #112 (permalink)
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They are replying to our posts now

https://www.facebook.com/micromaxinfo/posts/327473767262799?ref=notif&notif_t=feed_comment

Surely will be a good news
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Old December 9th, 2011, 05:42 AM   #113 (permalink)
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another message guys hurry

Micromax Mobile ‎@Abhishek Iyer @Goutham Hindu A boot loader file + base firmware will be enough for you?


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guys reply fast they are asking for what we want,i dnt know much about what are the things we need.so just reply here or check facebook page and post there what exactly we need hurryyy..........................
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guys reply fast they are asking for what we want,i dnt know much about what are the things we need.so just reply here or check facebook page and post there what exactly we need hurryyy..........................

Sorry there is prob in my browser.
Goutham just tell them that we will give high priority to kernel source and not firmware or bootloader.
Tell them we want kernel source first if they are ready to give all then its well and good but first priority is for kernel souece.
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done i posted on their wall.
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i think no need to create a website.if we want we can create a page for a70 in Facebook.we all can become members there,invite other users and we can continue our campaign there also.if we use the term hacking then media might think as we are demanding for kernel source instead of its a right for all users who using android device.

Agree completely white hat. +1
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Whoa.
We have to polite with them now then only they reply.
Yeah,i agree and even have to blackmail them emotionally...i call it Emotional Atyachaar...then they reply..lol..
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Till then: Know Your Android Bootloader?What it is and Why it Matters - Tested

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Yeah,i agree and even have to blackmail them emotionally...i call it Emotional Atyachaar...then they reply..lol..

Lol...
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am happy today they replied many of us and they asked me and abhishek for what we want.so its good sign for us.also wants to thank those who called them on their phone number and talked to them.we should not stop our campaign until we get kernel source code and we have to keep on emotional atyachaaring them
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We should ask them to post their commitment in a wall post. Also a rough time frame for the implementation of sharing source code.
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am happy today .we should not stop our campaign until we get kernel source code and we have to keep on emotional atyachaaring them
You said it man. Let them not take us lying.
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We should ask them to post their commitment in a wall post. Also a rough time frame for the implementation of sharing source code.
Asked it,no reply till now.
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After reading many comments by mmx i think that they are making us a rabbit and hanging a carrot of source code in front of us which they are not gonna release.
anyway we(i) should maintain a positive attitude and keep on trying
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They should confirm us their commitment in their email.
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yes thats the main point
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Oh we didn't mention that they said what in e-mail...
Can someone post?
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Can someone post?
already done it sir
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Done!!!
N i copy-pasted your email just now,don't mind...
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Nice
Now, things will clear up for sure!!
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am happy today they replied many of us .........
they have started feeling the heat.

they feel that the tide is turning against them.

hence they replied us in our comment so that we will be pacified.

that's a ploy as well as a sign that they've started budging.

The seige laid by us has started repeat just started to work.

we need to extract a credible promise/comittment from them regarding source code.

earlier also they had replied in their comments that they will release the source code. almost a month has passed and there is no reply.
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Ya,thats y we are now asking to make a wall post in this matter.
We all should now ask them to make a wall post.
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i wl never mind buddy
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Previously also when we campaigned.....they replied to mine and one more user about the release....i think mmx people can only be compelled not request
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We all should now ask them to make a wall post.
that's the point doc.
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Previously also when we campaigned.....they replied to mine and one more user about the release....i think mmx people can only be compelled not request
you've got their config file now.
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another message from micromax


Micromax Mobile ‎@Aditya Deva We are already in the process of releasing the source code. Thanks for your patience!
by the time they see me loose my patience, their whole android user base will be eroded.
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just show them this
lg has modified it and released

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that config file was not of a70 it was of a cdma phone of htc or some old crap phone as you can see it is armv5

good to hear micromaxx will release SOURCE
it will be good it they gave us ETA
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OK here is an update.

i spoke to Ritu, the supervisor .........

I spoke to Manish at the Technical Department .........

This is some headway at the very least.
Brother sorry for not acknowledging your great contribution and commitment in TIME and in person.

your efforts will may open to us another door to the very prized source code.
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that config file was not of a70 it was of a cdma phone of htc or some old crap phone as you can see it is armv5

good to hear micromaxx will release SOURCE
it will be good it they gave us ETA
by "config" file I meant about the mindset of micromax guys. I was joking man.

Regarding source code it is quite early to comment regarding their commitment.

what is ETA bro?
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My analysis of today's happenings:

micromax is quitely watching the activity regarding FB campaign for source code of android phones.

they were alarmed when I asked abhishek to mobilise as many friends as possible. This may turn the tide completely against them.

That's why they replied to abhisheks post. Just to pacify him. lest they get the taste new customers joining the campaign.
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ETA = Estimated Time of Arrival

without adityadeva this campaign would have been dead
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sure we are not at all going to stop our campaign until we get the kernel source code.they should post it on their main wall as micromax is releasing kernel source code for A70 model.no retirement from campaign until we get the code.
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without adityadeva this campaign would have been dead
I am very committed to you guys. I will never let you down.

I bought this mobile because an Indian company manufactured(?) a decent hardware. I wanted to see the name of our nation in XDA Devs. It could be slow but we could do it.

a company from our own nation has let us down. every time I think of it, it reminds me of the traitors who handed over our nation to britishers due to their selfishness and inefficiency.

that flame is in me.
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sure we are not at all going to stop our campaign until we get the kernel source code.they should post it on their main wall as micromax is releasing kernel source code for A70 model.no retirement from campaign until we get the code.
that's the spirit man.
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that config file was not of a70 it was of a cdma phone of htc or some old crap phone as you can see it is armv5

good to hear micromaxx will release SOURCE
it will be good it they gave us ETA
I have config.gz file of A70. I will upload tonight. I extracted it from boot.img of A70.
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