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Old January 4th, 2010, 08:51 PM   #51 (permalink)
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The Win 7 users apparently get drivers via windows update. I could have sworn that was an XP option but didn't see it for some reason.
Not me. 7 ultimate 64bit.

Still trying.

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Hi All,

I just tried downloading PC Studio v3.2.1 and went about it according to Agent's instructions but my PC still can't see the Phone in download mode. I'm running windows 7 64 bit.

Are there in fact 64bit usb drivers for the samsung moment and if so, where would I get it?

As of now, my phone under device manager is showing up as:

Android UMS Composite USB Device
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I've also got W7x64 at home but flashed at work. So far I don't think 64-bit Windows users are in luck for flashing right now.

A couple of things I've noticed running ZE08(latest stable according to dev). It is zippier overall BUT there are a few quirks that I've run into. (went from stock to the 08)

The lag when typing on the virtual keyboard is worse. Turning off vibrate with the Hero VK corrects it completely but I don't like that the Hero VK doesn't correct hardware KB entry(like adding apostrophes to my contractions) and I like the tactile feedback.

When talking and navigating back to the call screen via notifications it will, every time, act as though I went back and pressed talk to open a new line and I end up with a screen that says I'm on a conference call when I'm not.

Then talking on the bluetooth and ending the conversation it doesn't disconnect the phone audio from the headset after hang-up, it remains active even though the call is disconnected. In fact, my bluetooth headset has been off for about 30 mins and the phone still shows connected.
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I just Uninstalled Samsung PC Studio version v3.2.1 and downloaded and installed Samsung PC Studio 7 and the PC still doesn't recognize the phone.

There's got to be an official 64bit driver for the Samsung Moment somewhere out there no???
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Yeah, I think us 64 bit users are screwed...
I tried on XP64 and Win7/ultimate 64
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Fack!!!! >:-(
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so how is your rooting guide coming along?
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When you are done it would be much appreciated on this forum.. we are starting to build it as a replacement/future dev site dedicated to the samsung moment
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I suspect our guide is on vacation as I haven't seen him around since the holidays, but hopefully someone can come by and make this sticky soon... very useful thread!
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Thought I'd add a note about my previous complaints about the new kernel. Not sure why it was doing the bluetooth stuff yesterday, it has worked flawlessly today.
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Other than being a no-go on all of my computers (all on 7 x64) and finally having to resort to my wife's Vista x86 machine, this guide was spot-on and made this ridiculously easy for me. Easier than any Windows Mobile ROM flash, that's for sure. Amazing how you can upgrade the kernel without wiping the system like that.

Now to figure out what the update DID for me, lol...
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thanks for the guide, i got everything done in just under 10 minutes reading everything step by step. just looking forward to a mild battery increase.
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yeah, the 64 bit thing is killing me. All our computers at home are running 64 bit OS...
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I was not able to get this to work on my xp 64 bit machine no matter what drivers I tried. However with my 32 bit xp I was able to get it working, though not without many driver issues.

Two important points I gleaned here or there and wish I paid heed to sooner:

A reboot after installing drivers seemed to help Odin see my moment

If PDAnet is running - turn it off, or the flash will just freeze!

Hope this helps someone.
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Can't get this to work at all. Tried on both w7 ultimate x64 and Windows XP Pro. In W7 in device manager when plugged in the device is shown as 'G' under 'other devices' and I can't find a driver for it (tried both Driver pack and installing PC Studio). In XP when plugged in it shows up as "USB Device", but can't find a driver for it-- also tried USB driver pack as well as installing PC Studio.

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x64 won't work. What version of PC Studio did you install? I've got PC Studio 3.2.1 installed on my XP Pro machine.
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x64 won't work. What version of PC Studio did you install? I've got PC Studio 3.2.1 installed on my XP Pro machine.
Samsung PC Studio 7. I tried 3.2.1 on the W7 machine first, that didn't work. Never tried it on XP. Does it have a driver v7 doesn't?

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UPDATE: installed studio 3, now it sees it when plugged in. Updater seems to be hung on 'setup connection' though

UPDATE2: removing battery, starting back up in download mode seemed to fix previous problem. Thanks for suggestion dkjones96
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so far no one with W7 64 or XP 64 has been able to get it to work.. try it on a W7 32 (let it find the drivers itself) or XP32
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Samsung PC Studio 7. I tried 3.2.1 on the W7 machine first, that didn't work. Never tried it on XP. Does it have a driver v7 doesn't?
I don't know the answer to that one... I was having driver issues and that's what solved it. From everywhere I've read any of the x64 systems are out of luck because there isn't an x64 driver that works yet.
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Samsung PC Studio 7. I tried 3.2.1 on the W7 machine first, that didn't work. Never tried it on XP. Does it have a driver v7 doesn't?

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UPDATE: installed studio 3, now it sees it when plugged in. Updater seems to be hung on 'setup connection' though
Odin almost always hangs at that point the first time, and I believe that aclark414 references that in his guide:

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14. Click Start – the process should only take a minute or two to run. If it gets stuck and doesn’t do anything, disconnect USB cable, pull battery on phone, and restart in Download Mode again. Reconnect USB cable. Try hitting Start in Odin again. It should take the second time.
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I suspect our guide is on vacation as I haven't seen him around since the holidays, but hopefully someone can come by and make this sticky soon... very useful thread!
i think the OP switched over to the hero... as for a mod to sticky this... who knows...

this wikia explains how to
1) install adb and remove unwanted apks... and has a list of apks that you can remove (like bejeweled, nascar, etc)
2) install custom roms
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ok....I'm obviously doing something wrong. I've done everything that was stated on the first post. only difference is Ive been trying to install ZE08 vs. ZE06 but i wouldnt think that would make much of a difference. Odin detects my phone, but when i start the DL process i show a "Fail" message after 11 secs.

This is the message I obtain:

Download Start...
<0> Create File...
<1> StartThread Detected : 1
<2> StartThread Detected : 0
<3> StartThread Detected : 0
<4> StartThread Detected : 0
<5> StartThread Detected : 0
<6> StartThread Detected : 0
<7> StartThread Detected : 0
<8> StartThread Detected : 0
<1> Begin Thread..
<1> Engine RUN!!!
<1> e - dll cannot open the usb serial port. code: 87
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any idea's? In the mean time I'll try and update via another PC. I'll advise after my attempt.

Thanks in advance...I feel like an idiot that i can follow these simple directions, lol
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Can anyone vouch for performance increases by loading the custom kernel?
I am very happy with the results with one exception. My phone is not sleeping like it used to. So, even though the battery meter works better, I am getting about 1/2 the life out of my battery than before the upgrade.

Spare Parts is showing that while I am sleeping, the phone is running 48-50% of the time.

I'm going to try reflashing to oringinal and the then back again to see what happens.
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nah it didnt work on my other PC either, I have 32bit and 64bit OS's. something i have noticed is that after I've installed the driver, the PC can find my device (moment) when the phone is normalized but I get a "can not reconize device" when in Download mode (volume down, camera,and power button) ....it seems like an intermittent issue cuz Odin will detect my phone SOMETIMES but when trying to run the download it fails after 11 secs...
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I've deleted and re-dl'd all tar and rar files and have extracted as advised...I'm sure its something extremely simple, it seems like a possible driver issue BUT like noted above, when phone is normalized i can see the files that are on the device...sigh, guess I'll walk away and come back and try again in a few. If anyone has any idea's about what i'm doing wrong PLEASE throw me a bone...ha
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Not that I know if this will work but I'll offer possible things to look at...
  • Try uninstalling the drivers completely (I use CCleaner to see them), reboot, then reinstall Samsung PC Studio. Plug in your phone in "normal" mode to let the PC automatically install the drivers. Then try it again.
  • Another option is to try a different USB port.
  • Also, make sure PC Studio IS NOT running in the background when you are running Odin. It seems to prevent you from flashing your phone.
Those are my suggestions.... Hopefully, it will work out for you.
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Not that I know if this will work but I'll offer possible things to look at...
  • Try uninstalling the drivers completely (I use CCleaner to see them), reboot, then reinstall Samsung PC Studio. Plug in your phone in "normal" mode to let the PC automatically install the drivers. Then try it again.
  • Another option is to try a different USB port.
  • Also, make sure PC Studio IS NOT running in the background when you are running Odin. It seems to prevent you from flashing your phone.
Those are my suggestions.... Hopefully, it will work out for you.

THANKS! I did what you recommended and uninstalled the driver(s) and installed Samsung PC studio and now i have no issues syncing up with Odin, but I'm still getting a "fail" message after i start the download process in Odin within 11 secs. I've tried other usb ports as well...I've tried 3 different ports with the same result. posting the messaging that i get from odin below...

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Download Start...
<0> Create File...
<1> StartThread Detected : 1
<2> StartThread Detected : 0
<3> StartThread Detected : 0
<4> StartThread Detected : 0
<5> StartThread Detected : 0
<6> StartThread Detected : 0
<7> StartThread Detected : 0
<8> StartThread Detected : 0
<1> Begin Thread..
<1> Engine RUN!!!
<1> e - dll cannot open the usb serial port. code: 5

Thanks agian for your help, I hope i can get this working soon...it seems so simple! ha
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THANKS! I did what you recommended and uninstalled the driver(s) and installed Samsung PC studio and now i have no issues syncing up with Odin, but I'm still getting a "fail" message after i start the download process in Odin within 11 secs. I've tried other usb ports as well...I've tried 3 different ports with the same result. posting the messaging that i get from odin below...

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Download Start...
<0> Create File...
<1> StartThread Detected : 1
<2> StartThread Detected : 0
<3> StartThread Detected : 0
<4> StartThread Detected : 0
<5> StartThread Detected : 0
<6> StartThread Detected : 0
<7> StartThread Detected : 0
<8> StartThread Detected : 0
<1> Begin Thread..
<1> Engine RUN!!!
<1> e - dll cannot open the usb serial port. code: 5

Thanks agian for your help, I hope i can get this working soon...it seems so simple! ha
not sure if this will help...

1) but with the tar file (one package), what program did you use to extract it out with? i heard that winzip has issues... and to use the default windows application.

2) you're using odin 3.98?

3) you have the moment.ops file selected?
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I used 7Zip for mine.

What Odin version are you running?
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Ok, I'm new to this, but I can't get it to work.

At work I have W7 x32 and I can't get windows to recognize the driver when my phone is in "download" mode.

I also tried it on a VM of XP Pro x32 and couldn't get windows see the phone in "download" mode there either.

Both see the phone in regular mode....

At home I have an Ubuntu box and a W7 x32 box also. I'll try it when I get home but I'm not holding my breath. Anybody have any idea on how to get it installed using Linux?
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Ok, I'm new to this, but I can't get it to work.

At work I have W7 x32 and I can't get windows to recognize the driver when my phone is in "download" mode.

I also tried it on a VM of XP Pro x32 and couldn't get windows see the phone in "download" mode there either.

Both see the phone in regular mode....
when you say it sees in regular mode - does it see it as a USB drive? do you have USB debugging on? menu>settings>applications>development

also, on your computer, are the correct drivers installed? go into your device manager - you should see adb interface and a samsung android composite adb interface installed with the following drivers (under driver file details):

c:\windows\system32\drivers\ssadadb.dll,
c:\windows\system32\drivers\wdfcoinstaller01005.dl l,
c:\windows\system32\wdfcoinstaller01005.dll

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At home I have an Ubuntu box and a W7 x32 box also. I'll try it when I get home but I'm not holding my breath. Anybody have any idea on how to get it installed using Linux?
for linux:
Getting adb to recgonize moment under Ubuntu Karmic
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Iv been looking at this thread for a while and in just curious about a couple things:
1. Does this custom Kernal have any risks as for as bricking the phone?
2. When android 2.1 comes out for the moment will that be a problem?
3. Will this void the warranty on my phone?

This seems like a pretty good temporary fix till 2.1 come out.
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I figured this out, I had the incorrect drivers install.

Thanks for the quick response.
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Iv been looking at this thread for a while and in just curious about a couple things:
1. Does this custom Kernal have any risks as for as bricking the phone?
2. When android 2.1 comes out for the moment will that be a problem?
3. Will this void the warranty on my phone?

This seems like a pretty good temporary fix till 2.1 come out.
1. not really - however, if you remove the wrong files after you root, then maybe
2. no - you can always flash back.
3. probably - but realistically, it'll be hard to prove if you have a phone that doesn't work.
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Ok, I got Odin to recognize my phone, but 11 seconds in I get this:

Download Start...
<0> Create File...
<1> StartThread Detected : 1
<2> StartThread Detected : 0
<3> StartThread Detected : 0
<4> StartThread Detected : 0
<5> StartThread Detected : 0
<6> StartThread Detected : 0
<7> StartThread Detected : 0
<8> StartThread Detected : 0
<1> Begin Thread..
<1> Engine RUN!!!
<1> e - dll cannot open the usb serial port. code: 87

I am using Odin 3.98 and I extracted the package with 7zip. I am using a Mini USB cable with a converter on the end to Micro USB. Maybe this has something to do with the problem. I will try a straight Micro when I get home.

I'll let everybody know how it goes.

Thanks for the help.

BTW: I've gotten the phone connected in Ubuntu, I'm concerned about the flashing part of it. Is there an Odin like program for Linux?
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1. not really - however, if you remove the wrong files after you root, then maybe
2. no - you can always flash back.
3. probably - but realistically, it'll be hard to prove if you have a phone that doesn't work.
One more question does this really help with the battery?
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I am very happy with the results with one exception. My phone is not sleeping like it used to. So, even though the battery meter works better, I am getting about 1/2 the life out of my battery than before the upgrade.

Spare Parts is showing that while I am sleeping, the phone is running 48-50% of the time.

I'm going to try reflashing to oringinal and the then back again to see what happens.
My Moment now wakes on its own too every couple minutes. But only while not plugged in.
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My Moment now wakes on its own too every couple minutes. But only while not plugged in.

I read someplace that having wifi on might do this... I don't remember where though.

I finally got this to install on my computer. I think I was still missing a driver on my work computer.
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not sure if this will help...

1) but with the tar file (one package), what program did you use to extract it out with? i heard that winzip has issues... and to use the default windows application.

2) you're using odin 3.98?

3) you have the moment.ops file selected?
OOOOOOk, I extracted using windows instead of Winzip and I can now get past the 11 sec. mark. BUT the timer keeps roll'n. I have tried disconnecting from the usb and reconnect but it doesnt give me the option to restart the process. I have to re-start Odin and i get the same results. using Odin 3.98 guess i'll give it another go when i get off work. agian thanks for the help!
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OOOOOOk, I extracted using windows instead of Winzip and I can now get past the 11 sec. mark. BUT the timer keeps roll'n. I have tried disconnecting from the usb and reconnect but it doesnt give me the option to restart the process. I have to re-start Odin and i get the same results. using Odin 3.98 guess i'll give it another go when i get off work. agian thanks for the help!
progress. yeah, just try it again - i had to restart as well as mine didn't take the first time, but it did the second time... as the OP stated:

14. Click Start – the process should only take a minute or two to run. If it gets stuck and doesn’t do anything, disconnect USB cable, pull battery on phone, and restart in Download Mode again. Reconnect USB cable. Try hitting Start in Odin again. It should take the second time.
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progress. yeah, just try it again - i had to restart as well as mine didn't take the first time, but it did the second time... as the OP stated:

14. Click Start – the process should only take a minute or two to run. If it gets stuck and doesn’t do anything, disconnect USB cable, pull battery on phone, and restart in Download Mode again. Reconnect USB cable. Try hitting Start in Odin again. It should take the second time.

Ok so are you closing and re-opening Odie if it doesnt work the first time? or do you just unplug the usb and plug it back in and hit start? when I disconnect the usb i get a red "fail" message where it normally says "detected" then when i reconnect the device, it doesnt "detect" it, still shows "fail" and i never get the "start" option to engage again. So at that point i have to restart Odie but the same issue occurs...the timer keeps turning and the phone never reboots as its suppose to...I'll get this sooner or later damnit! ha
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Ok so are you closing and re-opening Odie if it doesnt work the first time? or do you just unplug the usb and plug it back in and hit start? when I disconnect the usb i get a red "fail" message where it normally says "detected" then when i reconnect the device, it doesnt "detect" it, still shows "fail" and i never get the "start" option to engage again. So at that point i have to restart Odie but the same issue occurs...the timer keeps turning and the phone never reboots as its suppose to...I'll get this sooner or later damnit! ha
when i personally did it, i actually restart odin as well... i power cycled my phone (took battery out and brought it back up in download mode) - reconnected the usb and started odin up again...

clicked on the one package, browsed to the moment.ops file, and browsed to my .tar file and hit start and it worked pretty quickly.
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hmmm weird, thats what I'm doing, I'll try it again when i get home in a few hours. it seems soooo straight forward and simple...

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Well, I took the plunge, and flashed my phone. The whole process took less than 15 minutes including downloads and my asking myself "are you sure you want to really do this?" It really was a very easy process thanks to the steps here and in other forums.

I only ran into a few bumps....

1.) Pressing vol down/end/camera button would not put the phone in download mode...until I unplugged the charger cable! (sometimes the obvious things are overlooked ! :-) )

2.) The drivers from the custom package on Zefie's FTP site did not work. I downloaded PC studio 3 (free), and installed it. You do not need the application running. It simply installs the correct drivers - SIDE NOTE - my wife has a Blackberry that would not be recognized by the PC until I removed the assortment of other phone drivers that I had accumulated over the last few years (work phones, home phones, etc. etc.)

3.) Odin detected my phone with no problem. I pressed the start button after selecting the required files. Odin hung on setup connection. I waited 5 minutes, disconnected the USB cable, and pulled the battery from the phone. Just to be safe, I charged my battery to 100% ( yeah I know - 10 seconds after being unplugged it will say 50%). Most phones require that the battery be fully charged before attempting any sort of upgrade or flash operation. Doesnt hurt to be safe! I rebooted the phone into download mode, and ran Odin again. It took less than 30 seconds including the reboot. The actual software upgrade was only a few seconds.

The process was SO QUICK that I thought that maybe something didnt work. Even the Sprint startup animation played ( I flashed to ZE08.2 ) instead of the alternate one I read about. I had downloaded Connectbot in order to be able to delete tombstones files (created when certain processes suddenly die enexpectedly) that were taking up space and stupidly can only be deleted by root level access. Prioir to flashing, I could not delete these files. I tested Connectbot again, and found out I now had root access and could easily delete these files (and easily anything else if you are not careful!)

Time to remove Bejewled! (VEG!)
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Alright, I got this to work, finally. I had to use my grandpa's 32 bit Vista. Stupid 64 bit 7.

But how do I go about deleting the unwanted apps, like bejeweled? If I need a program does anyone know if it would work with 7?
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http://samsungmoment.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_remove_applications_once_you_gain_root_acce ss

This is how you remove the apps. I did it on windows 7, but the 32 bit version... not sure about the 64 bit one...
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So is doing with really worth it? Im kinda iffy messing with the software of my phone and messing up and having to get a new one. I kinda wanna do this because i heard it helps with the battery meter.
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It's actually pretty easy, I'm only 17 and I did it no problem. But I have yet to delete the other apps.


Also can someone give a better guide to the ABD thing? I kinda suck at command prompt. :P
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So is doing with really worth it? Im kinda iffy messing with the software of my phone and messing up and having to get a new one. I kinda wanna do this because i heard it helps with the battery meter.
The kernel replacement is super easy. Really no way to mess that one up other than unplugging the phone in the middle of the download or something. Not a big deal. The apps, not sure if it has made a difference because yesterday I ran the media test but you can mess that one up. Put the asterisk in there instead of the actual package name and wipe all your programs. Not cool. Pay attention and you should be fine I was worried about messing with mine too.

Today was an average day of use and I have 50% battery after 14 hours. Way better than before except last night I got a warning that I was at 15% battery and then about 2 minutes later got on a phone call where the phone died not but 4-5 minutes into the conversation. Wasn't expecting that one.
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Default proximity sensor?

Has anyone else who's flashed to ZE08.2 notice that the proximity sensor doesn't turn the screen off on phone calls anymore?
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Very dumb question.. This roots my phone right? When/how can we do wifi tether? I have tried the wifi tether program, says it starts but does nothing!

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