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Old February 23rd, 2010, 05:23 PM   #251 (permalink)
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Correct, they are different.
The steps are downgrade to cj05, upgrade to modified cl14 and then 12.1 patchoob.

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sry to beat a dead horse...im going to flash my newly purchased moment. It has CJ05. Which version of 12.1 should I download and also, where is the kernal for stock in case i need to go back to the stock version.
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sry to beat a dead horse...im going to flash my newly purchased moment. It has CJ05. Which version of 12.1 should I download and also, where is the kernal for stock in case i need to go back to the stock version.
According to joey.. his kernel doesn't matter if you need patchoob or not joeykrim - SDX Kernel - Beta - Revision 4 - 2/24/2010 Since it is a complete recode of the way the kernel is...

Post where joey talks about it is http://www.sdx-developers.com/index.php?topic=610.msg8096#msg8096
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According to joey.. his kernel doesn't matter if you need patchoob or not joeykrim - SDX Kernel - Beta - Revision 4 - 2/24/2010 Since it is a complete recode of the way the kernel is...

Post where joey talks about it is Login
The post where joey talks about it comes up error.
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The post where joey talks about it comes up error.
Ya my bad.. that is in the developers board
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Testing that kernel right now, it seem to run very well.
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so after i root my phone with zefies 10.3, do i need to load anything else to get to cl14 (my phone currently has cj05) or am i good to go from there?
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I see ZE13.2 is out with some instructions I don't quite understand. Can we get a ZE13.2 install for dummies?
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I see ZE13.2 is out with some instructions I don't quite understand. Can we get a ZE13.2 install for dummies?
Just install sprint's official updater for the moment and follow those directions.

Then replace the CL14.tar file in Program Files/Samsung Electronics/SWUpgrade/Models/Binary folder with whatever kernel Tar you want. Once you've switched the Tar out with the kernel of your choice then start up sprint's update utility as if you were installing CL14 and it'll flash your kernel instead of the entire system.

The first time you install CL14 completely including SBL you'll wipe everything clean.

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there are some detailed step by step directions posted regarding the CL14 "official" update process and how to use the sprint official tool to flash a custom kernel - http://www.sdx-developers.com/index.php?topic=731.0
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Anyone had any luck on a MAC trying this. My windows computer is loaded cause I am waiting to put 7 on it and I cant get this to work on my macbook. I guess I just have to wait...
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updated to joey 1.6 using the samsung tool...worked like a charm
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I have a question that has probably been answered several times. But I am completely new to the Moment. I just got it a couple days ago and it came with the CL14 update to it. Can I still flash a kernel using the Sprint utility or do I need to do something like the downgrade and then load. I'm a little confused, so I apologize if I missed the answer to this previously.
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there are some detailed step by step directions posted regarding the CL14 "official" update process and how to use the sprint official tool to flash a custom kernel - How-To: Using the Sprint Update Utility for Flashing
Hi Joey - thank you very much. But I don't understand some of this. For instance:

"1. Create a datatool back-up."

What does that mean? Thinking it might refer to the use of an app I searched market for "datatool" but nothing came up. So ... ?
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Hi Joey - thank you very much. But I don't understand some of this. For instance:

"1. Create a datatool back-up."

What does that mean? Thinking it might refer to the use of an app I searched market for "datatool" but nothing came up. So ... ?

Datatool is a tool that is part of the custom recovery.
It saves your /data and /system and lets you restore it whenever you want.
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It saves your /data and /system and lets you restore it whenever you want.
Pretty neat.
Every answer raises more questions, of course!

I found an answer here:

How to backup your rooted samsung moment

So is it correct that for Joey 1.6+, or Zefie 13+, you don't use Odin any more, but use the "new" Sprint updater instead? Or can it still be done through Odin 3.98 (or other)?

This has gotten confusing since I last looked at Moment forums a few weeks ago!
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Just a heads up for anyone that is thinking about flashing to a new kernel, and decides to go with Zefie's 14.1, don't. All previous ones worked wonders, but for some reason no matter how many times I flashed with 14.1 I could not received SMS nor would VoiceMail notification, or Visual Voicemail work. Which for me, was kinda a big deal. Nothing against Zefie what so ever, 13 was awesome, but 14.1 has it's kinks to work out I guess.
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i have a question that has probably been answered several times. But i am completely new to the moment. I just got it a couple days ago and it came with the cl14 update to it. Can i still flash a kernel using the sprint utility or do i need to do something like the downgrade and then load. I'm a little confused, so i apologize if i missed the answer to this previously.
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I have a question that has probably been answered several times. But I am completely new to the Moment. I just got it a couple days ago and it came with the CL14 update to it. Can I still flash a kernel using the Sprint utility or do I need to do something like the downgrade and then load. I'm a little confused, so I apologize if I missed the answer to this previously.
Yes - now you can!

How-To: Using the Sprint Update Utility for Flashing
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Just a heads up for anyone that is thinking about flashing to a new kernel, and decides to go with Zefie's 14.1, don't. All previous ones worked wonders, but for some reason no matter how many times I flashed with 14.1 I could not received SMS nor would VoiceMail notification, or Visual Voicemail work. Which for me, was kinda a big deal. Nothing against Zefie what so ever, 13 was awesome, but 14.1 has it's kinks to work out I guess.
Wow, you must be the only one...

in fact today I have received a text message from FaceBook, and a voicemail notification, and a Google Voice text, and a Google voice Voicemail notification... so I don't know what is up with your setup.

Maybe you should actually post this in his forum where 'your' issues can be addressed instead of spreading your one-off limited experience...FWIW

I highly recommend Ze 14.1 or Joey 1.9.1

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I've been running Ze14.1 for a few days now and it works great. Havent had any notification issues as of yet either. Maybe something is conflicting. Any notification apps installed that might control how it shows up maybe?

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14.3 is now out... Might want to give that a try and maybe disable your Ahome or similar for better battery life
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Hi all, this is my first real post/tech question here. I joined right after I got my Moment about a month ago. When I got it, it came with Android 1.6, and the CL14 update. About a week ago my phone decided to brick itself (not sure what happened, not even the Sprint Tech's could figure it out.) They replaced it (no-charge) with a brand new one. Thing is... this new one has 1.5, and cj05 on it, even thought they told me that this new one will have all the new updates, etc. already done.

My question is... where do I go from here? I either want to do the sprint update, or root it the best way possible so I can get the performance and speed back that I enjoyed when I got the first one. As it is now.. everything lags, dialing sucks, multiple sms causes the phone to lock, and multiple apps running sometimes causes the phone to restart. I want my sleek smooth droid back! lol

I am very tech minded, and have been reading up on rooting, and the different ways to do so. Which direction would you point a new guy like me, and why?
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Hi dib1138,

As far as I know, Moment still only runs Android 1.5, which will be updated to 2.1 later this year.

However, you can root the phone and install a much better/faster kernel. We are using JoeyKrim's 1.9.1 with great satisfaction.

How-To: Using the Sprint Update Utility for Flashing

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... Joey's latest firmware is 1.9.5

Even more improvements!

To root and replace the kernel is a fairly involved process so make sure you read all the 'Sticky's' before doing anything. And make sure to utilize the SEARCH function if you're unsure. And as you already know, you proceed at your own risk for making your phone a worthless paperweight.

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flashed with recovery 2.0... easier for me, and worked awesome...

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yeah, im definitely considering using the flash recovery 2.0 thing is- are the different ways just different options to get the same results? or are they specific to a certain attribute? I havent read much on the differences... just how each rooting method is different itself.

@ martonic - im not sure, but im almost positive that my original Moment came with 1.6

also- so what you guys are saying.. is that with how my new one is setup currently, Im good to just go and try one of the Flash/update utilities with out having to do an update/downgrade before?

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different methods to do the same thing... imho, it's stupid how easy it is to actually get load a custom kernel with the flash tool from sprint... I had upgraded to cl14 until I decided to load a custom rom... didn't downgrade to cj05 or anything... I almost feel like an idiot for not upgrading sooner for the battery life alone (going from about 10 hours a charge with moderate use to upwards of 16+ since I plug it in every night)...

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ok... Im now having the "age old" problem of my pc (Win XP, SP2) not letting the sprint updater see the phone. it works just fine when i plug in the USB cable in normal mode, but when I have SWupgrade running, i get the "device cannot start error" in device manager. I have Samsung PC Studio 7 installed, and not running, as well as NOT having Firefox open. I even disabled my gmail notifier. tried several combinations of rebooting the PC, and having the phone in "download" mode, including changing USB ports. (I have 8, some regular, some high-speed).

i read over several threads stating this same problem... it seems that the solutions worked, for the problem at hand, which have since been passed up in either updater-versions, or method of updating. Some of the links for Samsung drivers are broken, FYI- they may be for out-dated drivers.
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Okay here are the drivers Samsung Moment | Random Tech Info I have XP and the second set works for me

I think your issue is with New PC Studio being installed and resulting in driver conflicts

Just uninstall ANYTHING that says Samsung in it. Than reinstall Sprint Uploader(you should have it saved as a zip file or re D/L it should also install the drivers that you need
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Okay here are the drivers Samsung Moment | Random Tech Info I have XP and the second set works for me

I think your issue is with New PC Studio being installed and resulting in driver conflicts

Just uninstall ANYTHING that says Samsung in it. Than reinstall Sprint Uploader(you should have it saved as a zip file or re D/L it should also install the drivers that you need
this is exactly what worked for me...

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Hi all, this is my first real post/tech question here. I joined right after I got my Moment about a month ago. When I got it, it came with Android 1.6, and the CL14 update. About a week ago my phone decided to brick itself (not sure what happened, not even the Sprint Tech's could figure it out.) They replaced it (no-charge) with a brand new one. Thing is... this new one has 1.5, and cj05 on it, even thought they told me that this new one will have all the new updates, etc. already done.

My question is... where do I go from here? I either want to do the sprint update, or root it the best way possible so I can get the performance and speed back that I enjoyed when I got the first one. As it is now.. everything lags, dialing sucks, multiple sms causes the phone to lock, and multiple apps running sometimes causes the phone to restart. I want my sleek smooth droid back! lol

I am very tech minded, and have been reading up on rooting, and the different ways to do so. Which direction would you point a new guy like me, and why?
your phone never came with 1.6. it came with 1.5 with cl14.

right now the best way (imo) to root your phone is to install joeykrim's or speedrabbit's kernel. both kernels will speed up the responsiveness of your phone significantly, and speedrabbit's kernel includes wifi tether support. they both can found on sdx-developers.com, and the community is growing a lot now that the moment is starting to get a little more attention.
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I have Samsung PC Studio 7 installed, and not running, as well as NOT having Firefox open.
Agreed as the other use has suggested. Uninstall ANY previous Samsung drivers BEFORE installing the SWUpgrade tool (It will probably be easier to just install ANY Samsung item coming up in the Add/Remove Programs). Then reinstall the upgrade tool and start over... (don't forget to reboot once you've uninstalled BEFORE reinstalling the upgrade tool!)
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sweet! gave thanks all around! i was able to update meh phone!!! it took two tries (no- not the two it takes appearantly for the sprint update to work) the first, half-way through the update process, the USB decided that there was a problem with my device, and gave me a "device malfunction error 10" code. i restarted everything, and changed out USB cables... I think my old cable has a loose connection! (a job for the ol' multimeter, when im done playing mad-scientist with the phone!

now...*rubs hands together*... to see how bad I can break my toy.. lol after doing some more reading, i decided that im going to try the "joey's" 1.9.5 first... seems straight-forward enough, and does what I want it to do.

thanks again for the help, and patience!
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yay... update to the update! i now have joey's 1.9.5, and max's recovery 2.0 on and running. Smooth and responsive.. and really fast bootup! i am happy! now... how to get rid of the crap i dont want on the phone... *waves bye to Moxier mail*

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yay... update to the update! i now have joey's 1.9.5, and max's recovery 2.0 on and running. Smooth and responsive.. and really fast bootup! i am happy! now... how to get rid of the crap i dont want on the phone... *waves bye to Moxier mail*

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don't forget to download protectsu-0.2.zip and flash it using recovery 2.0

this allows you to use apps such as connectbot (adb shell from your phone), root explorer, and Titanium Backup... with protectsu-0.2, it gives you root access through your phone... makes getting rid of stock apps a breeze!

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--You have now downloaded everything that you will need in order to proceed with installation--





14. Click Start – the process should only take a minute or two to run. If it gets stuck and doesn’t do anything, disconnect USB cable, pull battery on phone, and restart in Download Mode again. Reconnect USB cable. Try hitting Start in Odin again. It should take the second time.


Best of luck to you. Again, I – nor any other person – is responsible for your phone.

If I get enough requests, I may put together a similar guide for loading the Android SDK, specifically the ADB so you can adb shell into the phone to delete the stock apps.
The program ODIN's stopped working, windows closed it... I tried it the third time and would not let me...What am I doing wrong? I think I already have USB drivers for my moment...(I've had them for a while)

PLEASE HELP!!

I TRIED NOW TO RESTART MY PHONE AND IT WILL NOT RESTART!

PLEASE HELP!!
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you use the sprint updater now instead of odin. you need to go out and find the first update for the phone from sprint. Then in the folder it installs in replace the tar file with the one from the custom rom.
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how do you remove tombstones step by step for lg optimus keep getting stuck all the way at step one
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