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Old October 25th, 2011, 10:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I got the Motorola Admiral and the new Sprint Direct Connect works great accross CDMA to IDEN. This is a great cross over device and my hats off to Motorola and Sprint. I loved IDEN and it was great back in it's day. But now it's time to move on. My company has over 400 phones with Sprint and IDEN and we will be staying with them for now and switching our phones to CDMA with Sprint Direct Connect.

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Have you tried it on roam yet? We tried one of the older Q-chat phones some time back and had to switch back to iden because the V950 would not PTT once you lost signal had to reboot phone to use PTT everytime we lost the cdma signal or roamed was time to reboot. Was hoping the Admiral would be better.
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Q-Chat was a major bust we did give it a go and also had to switch back. I have not tried it on roam yet. But I can tell you the new version that is now called Sprint Direct Connect is way better and also with Q-Chat you HAD to be in REV A or it did not work. The good news is the new version I have been told works even in roam mode and even 1x(also known as REV.0) mode
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We have Rev A here so Q-chat worked ok untill you dropped the signal in a weak spot then no more Q-chat till you rebooted like a 10 times a day. That lasted two weeks and back to iden, the moto I1 was ok but outdated android 1.5. Should get my new admirals setup in the morning.
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Good luck and please report back and tell us what you think about the new Motorola Admiral. Thanks
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Bought husband the Admiral for the direct connect and retired the Nextel dinosaur. It's all kinds of trouble so far...help!

His Admiral is "picking up" what I DO on my NOT direct connect phone. I enter a contact, it shows up on his phone too. We do have many of the same contacts - but MY regular phone numbers over-ride his two way contacts. The only 2-way numbers that will work on his phone are the contacts I DON'T have in my phone.

Also - my e-mail is showing up in his phone. Hopefully something simple - Does he need to set up his OWN gmail account or something so it will quit reading mine?

Anybody think a complete wipe and reinstall from his old Nextel contacts would help? Thanks!
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yes...its syncing your gmail account with his phone. Probably pulled all the contacts from your gmail and put them in his phone...
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Bought husband the Admiral for the direct connect and retired the Nextel dinosaur. It's all kinds of trouble so far...help!

His Admiral is "picking up" what I DO on my NOT direct connect phone. I enter a contact, it shows up on his phone too. We do have many of the same contacts - but MY regular phone numbers over-ride his two way contacts. The only 2-way numbers that will work on his phone are the contacts I DON'T have in my phone.

Also - my e-mail is showing up in his phone. Hopefully something simple - Does he need to set up his OWN gmail account or something so it will quit reading mine?

Anybody think a complete wipe and reinstall from his old Nextel contacts would help? Thanks!
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yes...its syncing your gmail account with his phone. Probably pulled all the contacts from your gmail and put them in his phone...
Yes but you will need to wipe his phone and start over with the setup. And only use his gmail acccount. go to settings privacy factory data reset put a check in both boxes and reset phone.
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Yes but you will need to wipe his phone and start over with the setup. And only use his gmail acccount. go to settings privacy factory data reset put a check in both boxes and reset phone.
She doesn't have to factory reset. Just pull off the Google accounts and clear the phonebook, then resync HIS contacts only.
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She doesn't have to factory reset. Just pull off the Google accounts and clear the phonebook, then resync HIS contacts only.
How do you clear all the contacts? 1 at a time?
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No. Menu -> Settings> Applications > Contacts (Or moto's equivlent APK, not sure the name) Clear cache/data and clear defaults.
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Ok I still say for a clean install and setup it's best to start from scratch but it's really up to the user. But thanks for the heads up.
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Ok I still say for a clean install and setup it's best to start from scratch but it's really up to the user. But thanks for the heads up.
Theres no reason to erase EVERYTHING just to clear out the contacts =P. It's like formatting your computer when all you need to do is uninstall one program.
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Theres no reason to erase EVERYTHING just to clear out the contacts =P. It's like formatting your computer when all you need to do is uninstall one program.
Yes like I said it is a matter of Personal preference. And yes If I had a program eating all my Data you bet I would do a back up and format the drive I do it all the time. I like to clean my drive at least 1 time every year. We can go on forever on this topic(not even on topic thread was hijacked long ago)but we should let people do what they think is best and just share our option. You have shared yours and I have shared mine. Thank you
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Does anyone know if using this phone can you direct connect to someone with using the iden phones? if not are there any plans for sprint to do this while the switch CDMA net is compleate.
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Does anyone know if using this phone can you direct connect to someone with using the iden phones? if not are there any plans for sprint to do this while the switch CDMA net is compleate.
Yes this is a Sprint Direct connect device and yes it does connect to IDEN. Great cross over phone.
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Yes this is a Sprint Direct connect device and yes it does connect to IDEN. Great cross over phone.
Cool then its worth me to get the MOTOROLA ADMRIAL instead of the MOTOROLA TITANIUM.
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Cool then its worth me to get the MOTOROLA ADMRIAL instead of the MOTOROLA TITANIUM.
FOR SURE
The Titanium is bigger and older IDEN the Admiral is newer and better Sprint direct connect.
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The Titanium is bigger and older IDEN the Admiral is newer and better Sprint direct connect.
cool thanks very much for the info.
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We have a couple admirals and they are nice phones only problem is sometimes if you roam for a while dc will not work once returning to sprint. Reboot fixes problem but a pain.
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DC will not work when roaming with Sprint to IDEN phone but it will work with Sprint to Sprint direct connect.
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Well on my admirals they do not DC while roaming and sometimes do not dc after returning from roam to sprint. When ever I roam I get an icon next to the signal meter with red through it and DC will not work. When back on sprint sometimes red icon stays and no DC untill reboot.
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If it happens again just try turning the radio off and back on. hope that helps
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Airplane mode does not bring back DC have to reboot. I sure wish Sprint would fix this problem, I like the phones just wish DC would work. At least with the old iden system when you came back into a nextel area you could use DC again, but not with this sprint crap, have to reboot this junk all the time. Its fine if you never roam off of sprint.
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Not sure if you had a chance to do any reading about the sprint network upgrades coming up but if not take a look at this
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Yeah I have read everything I can find on the upgarades and I hope that will fix the problems. I just can not figure out why 50% of the time DC will not resume when returning from roam. If they just switch the iden tower near me to evdo would help some. I think the biggest problem here is if I drive one direction I have good sprint service, an other direction no sprint but good iden and an other direction only roam. At least with the admiral I do not have to carry two phones all the time, just have to reboot 2 or 3 times a day.
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Temp solution for some of us.
Hi i have my admrial now for 3 days and i've been having the problem where the DC does not come back after roaming. i even tried going in and out of airplane mode and it does not come back to DC , i have to power down and re boot. where i live i have great coverage where i live and where i work. the only reason it goes into roaming is when i go into a building where the signal becomes week and drops out then it goes into roaming. so either way in roaming or not i will not get a signal so i turned the roaming feature off in the phone. now when i loose a signal in a building or in a freak location i may drive thru at least i don't have to power down and re boot to get my DC working again. so far this is working great for ME cause i live on long island ny and work in Manhattan so the coverage is almost excellent according to sprints map, so from home to work so it does not have to go into roaming. i'd say to try this and see if it works for you until sprint comes up with a solution for this problem
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I am glad to hear I am not the only one with this problem. I thought about trying to turn off roam but I like to still receive calls when I drive through a roam area. I have noticed if I only roam for a couple minutes the DC will come back on its own, but if you roam for an hour or more it will never return. I wonder where is a good place to file a complaint about this problem.
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Call Sprint and put in a complaint. i did about the serviace dropping inside my home and have full bars outside, and they are sending me a Airave free and waving the $4 monthly fee.
tell them you use the phone for work
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Ok a follow up. shutting off roaming does not fully cure the problem. It helps reduce the ammount of time my direct connect wont come back on with out a hard reset. So its not the roaming that is the problem it seams to be when it comes out of network it won't reset back in. this seams to be it could be some kind of softwaer glitch and hopefully a update will be out soon to fix it.
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So today i stopped off at sprint to see if there is something that can be done about the DC shutting down and not comming back on. He said In Mid March there will be something called a MRL update that is supposed to fix this problem. so i guess we have to wait another month and a half. at least it looks like they arw aware of the problem and working to fix it.
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Glad to hear there maybe some hope, sure hope it comes true, it seems like one phone or the other is always in need a reboot. Because of this glitch I'm only able to get about 40% usage of DC on these phones. And I thought I had read that DC should work while roaming, they can't even get them to work all the time on the sprint system.
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So today i stopped off at sprint to see if there is something that can be done about the DC shutting down and not comming back on. He said In Mid March there will be something called a MRL update that is supposed to fix this problem. so i guess we have to wait another month and a half. at least it looks like they arw aware of the problem and working to fix it.
Are you sure it was a MRL update and not a PRL update?
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Are you sure it was a MRL update and not a PRL update?
might be PRL i may have miss understod him. either way i don't what it is. assuming some kind of flash update for the phone.
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Yes a PRL update for sure will help. Take a look at this link
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There seems to be a newer PRL out now and since I tried it my phones have not lost DC yet, however I have not roamed much yet.

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