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Old March 7th, 2010, 04:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am trying to install the ereader from ereader.com/android

Whenever I try it tells me "This application comes from an unknown source, and for your security only applications from trusted sources can be installed"

I go to Settings -> Applications, and unlike the other tutorials I have read on these forums, there is no option for Untrusted Sources. Is this just another way AT&T is screwing over their Android users? Is there a way to enable this option despite it's lacking a UI option?

I called Motorola support and they really had no idea what I was talking about, and couldn't send me to tier 2 until tomorrow.

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I noticed that too. I'm sure we have at&t to thank for that.
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Let us know if you get anywhere with tier 2 support. I'm curious too.
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I posted on their support forums and got a reply saying it's a known issue and they're looking into it. I'm still going to try and call up Tier 2 and see what's up.
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It looks like AT&T trying to turn people off of Android.

Motorola Backflip does not allow web installs or untrusted sources
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Old March 8th, 2010, 09:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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It looks like AT&T trying to turn people off of Android.
Yes, conspiracy theory harder unf unf.

Like I said, Motorola has posted that it is a known issue and they're looking into it. Stop being paranoid this has nothing to do with AT&T and just an oversight on Motorola's part.
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Motorola is also known to lock down thier phones too, so maybe it's not AT&T. Research the Motorola Milestone, which is the UK version of the Droid. Moto has fixed that phone so it is unrootable somehow, and pissed off alot of people.
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It is an AT&T thing -- not Motorola. All the reports say so.
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It is an AT&T thing -- not Motorola. All the reports say so.
Speaking from first hand knowledge after having dealt extensively with both Motorola and AT&T on this issue, I honestly don't know who to lay the blame on at this point.

I made it to AT&T's level 2 support, and they informed me that they only option they have as far as disabling settings on the android os would be to "gray out" things, such as how you see the connection information in "about phone". As far as disabling features like that, the support rep assured me that AT&T did not have that option disabled, and it didn't sound to me like anyone at AT&T even know about the option at all. Of course that isn't to say it was a decision made higher up on the chain before level 2 support got the phone themselves.

I made it to Motorola's level 2 support, and they told me that the option will be included in a phone update at some point in the future, as it is on each of their other droid phones.

That being said, a Motorola employee on the official backflip forums blaimed AT&T for requesting the option be removed.

The final solution to the problem, or at least the walk around, involves using the official Android SDK (which can be downloaded for free) and running "adb install <path to untrusted .apk>" from a command prompt, with the phone connected and debugging turned on. This has worked wonders for me.
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Speaking from first hand knowledge after having dealt extensively with both Motorola and AT&T on this issue, I honestly don't know who to lay the blame on at this point.

I made it to AT&T's level 2 support, and they informed me that they only option they have as far as disabling settings on the android os would be to "gray out" things, such as how you see the connection information in "about phone". As far as disabling features like that, the support rep assured me that AT&T did not have that option disabled, and it didn't sound to me like anyone at AT&T even know about the option at all. Of course that isn't to say it was a decision made higher up on the chain before level 2 support got the phone themselves.

I made it to Motorola's level 2 support, and they told me that the option will be included in a phone update at some point in the future, as it is on each of their other droid phones.

That being said, a Motorola employee on the official backflip forums blaimed AT&T for requesting the option be removed.

The final solution to the problem, or at least the walk around, involves using the official Android SDK (which can be downloaded for free) and running "adb install <path to untrusted .apk>" from a command prompt, with the phone connected and debugging turned on. This has worked wonders for me.
Im using this method as well.. Using DroidExplore works great. A little out of the way but it gets the job done.
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Thanks for the solution. That works for me. Here are the steps in case someone else needs the detail.

1. Connect using USB
2. Donwload motorola backflip driver and install. (AT&T Motorola Backflip USB Drivers Download | AT&T Cell Phones | Blog about att phones.)
3. Install Android SDK.
4. Go to "tools" in the SDK folder in command prompt.
5. Type "adb devices" to make sure the phone is connected properly.
6. Type "adb install some_file.apk" to install. (assuming the .apk file is under the same "tools" folder. )
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Just to add, if you want, add the sdk\tools folder to your path statement and you can connect and type ADB commands from any directory.
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All i really did was Download the MotoDev SDK tools signed up for a free account and now i i can install any application i want XD
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From where did you downloaded the MotoDev SDK tools and the free account?
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How would I go about doing this with a Mac?
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Well i am using a Macbook Pro 10.6
i went to this website

h**p://developer.motorola.com/docstools/motodevstudio/
Clicked on Download Motodev Studio For Android
Since i Am working with Mac OS X i chose the 32bit version and downloaded it.
It then tells you to become a member and i become a MotoDev member and wasnt asked any credit card information i simply put in my information and was able to download the tools. Once the tools are downloaded open up *motodevstudio* and their it will download all the SDK ranging from Android 1.1-2.1, Then after everything is downloaded simply connect your Backflip (Before connecting be sure to Enable USG Debugging Mode), On the actual MotoDev Studio screen it will see Device Type and the Android System, Simply right click on the Motorola Backflip and Choose Install App it will then ask you for the .apk and you simply look it up and install. If it doesnt install its usually because its not supported by Android 1.5, but ive already installled so many applications on my Backflip without the need of ADB.
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Well i am using a Macbook Pro 10.6
i went to this website

h**p://developer.motorola.com/docstools/motodevstudio/
Clicked on Download Motodev Studio For Android
Since i Am working with Mac OS X i chose the 32bit version and downloaded it.
It then tells you to become a member and i become a MotoDev member and wasnt asked any credit card information i simply put in my information and was able to download the tools. Once the tools are downloaded open up *motodevstudio* and their it will download all the SDK ranging from Android 1.1-2.1, Then after everything is downloaded simply connect your Backflip (Before connecting be sure to Enable USG Debugging Mode), On the actual MotoDev Studio screen it will see Device Type and the Android System, Simply right click on the Motorola Backflip and Choose Install App it will then ask you for the .apk and you simply look it up and install. If it doesnt install its usually because its not supported by Android 1.5, but ive already installled so many applications on my Backflip without the need of ADB.

Actually, adb is the tool in the sdk that is used by MotoDev Studio to do that. That just puts a (sort of) nicer gui on it.
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well whatever i know there is an option for ADB, but i didnt use it so
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I would also throw a guess that it was AT&T's decision, as the Droid, Cliq, Milestone, and Devour do not have this disabled, as far as I am aware. Cliq is also 1.5, and I think the stock source has the option enabled (visible) by default, so someone HAD to have changed SOMETHING.
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After searching the zillions of sites for help on installing some test apps via OSx/mac into my Backflip, this is the ONLY site/link that actually pointed me in the direction of something that worked!

Big thanks to JK_the_Slaker for the MotoDev reference! That did the trick - very easy to use and it worked like a charm! I joined this site only to be able to post this thank you and now I'll come back to it as the need arises.

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Well i am using a Macbook Pro 10.6
i went to this website

h**p://developer.motorola.com/docstools/motodevstudio/
Clicked on Download Motodev Studio For Android
Since i Am working with Mac OS X i chose the 32bit version and downloaded it.
It then tells you to become a member and i become a MotoDev member and wasnt asked any credit card information i simply put in my information and was able to download the tools. Once the tools are downloaded open up *motodevstudio* and their it will download all the SDK ranging from Android 1.1-2.1, Then after everything is downloaded simply connect your Backflip (Before connecting be sure to Enable USG Debugging Mode), On the actual MotoDev Studio screen it will see Device Type and the Android System, Simply right click on the Motorola Backflip and Choose Install App it will then ask you for the .apk and you simply look it up and install. If it doesnt install its usually because its not supported by Android 1.5, but ive already installled so many applications on my Backflip without the need of ADB.






ive downloaded everything now im going crazy cuz i have no idea wut to do next when it says to provide a valid path to configure the android sdk im sick of all this crap i just want to put a couple apps on my backflip and ive been spending weeks trying to adb this stupid thing
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Everything is working for me and these are the only issues I've come across using motodev/eclipse on my mac intel/snow leopard:
  1. eclipse/motodev will not allow going beyond one level deep for a project folder. Solution: whatever folder your eclipse app is located in,
    1. Create a projects folder there. Individual projects will be created in this folder.
    2. Set your workspace to this last eclipse folder.
    3. And, set it as the default via the eclipse Pref's.
    4. Edit you mac's .bash_profile (or create one if don't have one) to define the paths for your Backflip sdk (not the eclipse/motodev sdk, I mean the one for the Backflip emulator - you can download it from Motorola). Be sure to put that unzipped folder in your android-sdk-mac_86/tools, add-on folder, as well as eclipse/dropins and plugins - I think this is your problem. You don't need to use adb, just put the Backflip folder where I indicated.
  2. Don't use the motodev Run Configuration - it forces the emulator to show in the IDE and always stay's in front (yes, you could move it to a second monitor if you have one). Use the Android Appplication for Run Configuration creation. And use the Manual AVD mode, not the Automatic (this will avoid loading a bad app on the hardware)
Over the past week/10 days, I've discovered lot's of do's and don't and how-to's... with eclipse (was using Netbeans before). I've got it down now and can load my development apps without any problem now... Just work with it and make notes...
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I have no idea how to do any of that.. hahaha im waiting for tha update tha motodev application wont even show that my backflip is plugged in
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ha nvm i dont have to wait for a 2.1 update i already have it

i switched to the aria yezziirrr waaayyyy better than the backflip
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aria is better by far?**or i guess he is never commin back 2 this forum**
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u can download the non market apps enabler from marketplace to enable the unknown sources checkbox its about 2$ and its great without having to root the phone or doing over dev stuff. hope it helps
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Hope I didn't miss this but this issue with the backflip and unable to install non-market apps is solved with "AndroidCenteral Sideload Wonder Machine" USB/DeBug = success! I use version 1.2. Worked first time for me without a hitch.
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Now I haven't done this yet but if you download it onto your computer then try and put it on your phone from your computer see if that works.
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ok what you do is go to the android market look up Motorola backflip side loader enabler and it will let you download things from unknown sources
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