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Sure is replacing my Droid X if it comes quick enough!

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This WILL replace my Evo. Hoping for a relase sooner, rather than later... Love the Evo, was hoping the Thunderbolt would be better, but I'll rock this one instead! Hello Moto!
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says it will be coming q2 so looks like you have awhile
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LIVE BLOG: Motorola Press Conference @ CES 2011 | Android Phone Fans

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This WILL replace my Evo. Hoping for a relase sooner, rather than later... Love the Evo, was hoping the Thunderbolt would be better, but I'll rock this one instead! Hello Moto!
why oh why would you ditch the Evo for a locked down Moto device?
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why oh why would you ditch the Evo for a locked down Moto device?

Love the Evo (except for the color quality on the screen), but hate Sprint. I have "horrible" at best coverage at my home and office, and am tired of having to go out on my deck when I want to make calls. Sprint's customer service has been an absolute joke also. Will I miss the montly cost of Sprint- NO! The horrible coverage and service, yes.

I wish HTC had a device that was even close to the Bionic- I'd much rather have another HTC, but this one is looking pretty good at this point in the game. We'll see what tomorrow brings.
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I can upgrade my Moto Droid on July 13 of this year....looks like the Bionic is my leading candidate.....at this point!
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Phone of the year, this thing looks awesome. I was little jealous of the ATT version Atrix 4G but this bad boy will do just fine. I hope the battery life is as good as the X's.
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says it will be coming q2 so looks like you have awhile
Where did you hear Q2?
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Looks good, but I may have to skip this generation and wait for the next. I just bought the X 2 months ago, along with the car dock and home dock, both of which I would have to replace with a new phone.

Besides, there isnt one thing that has really made me wish for anything more out of my phone. It has enough HP under the hood for any game out as of now, and I actually think its better looking than the new phone.
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on the front page of phandroid where it said about the live motorola announcement
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on the front page of phandroid where it said about the live motorola announcement

Ahhh, Ok. I didn't see that on either Engadget or the Bionic page on Motor's website.
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This really reminds me of the mid 90's when Moores Law was in full effect, and the MHz (yes, still MHz back then, lol) race was getting notched up every few months, if not weeks, and as incremental as it was, going from a 200MHz Pentium to a 200MHz Pentium with MMX was a very big deal!

Until a few months later when the Pentium 2 came out at 266 MHz.
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With high end smart phones like this one coming out, I have to wonder what RIM (BlackBerry) is planning in order to survive... Surely, BlackBerry users are seeing these high end, super fast devices launch and wanting more out of their phone...
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With high end smart phones like this one coming out, I have to wonder what RIM (BlackBerry) is planning in order to survive... Surely, BlackBerry users are seeing these high end, super fast devices launch and wanting more out of their phone...
You know, I was just thinking the same thing. Are they even at CES? I know they are releasing their "Playbook" or what ever it is called. I have an 8330 Curve that is hitting the ditch for the first available LTE device.
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Ahhh, Ok. I didn't see that on either Engadget or the Bionic page on Motor's website.

if you watched the live webcast slides on engadget they said Q2 at the presentation.

I have an X, did the 2yr upgrade when it came out, but i'm not 100% sold on this phone yet. Don't get me wrong it does look nice but...
1. i need more info
2. i'd like to see someone have some hand time with it
3. it's the first generation of 4g for a company(moto) and there are bound to be release issues.
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With high end smart phones like this one coming out, I have to wonder what RIM (BlackBerry) is planning in order to survive... Surely, BlackBerry users are seeing these high end, super fast devices launch and wanting more out of their phone...

Rim will still survive soley because of Corp America especially Gov or any DoD related companies. ...however they won't be anywhere near the top like Android and Apple.

1. BB's are a lot more secure
2. they have $hitty games which equal less playing around on your phone all day
3. How many awesome cool android or apple phones have you seen without a camera? Try getting one of those into a secure location. I think this is the one and only reason Rim produces versions of the bold without a camera.
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if you watched the live webcast slides on engadget they said Q2 at the presentation.

I have an X, did the 2yr upgrade when it came out, but i'm not 100% sold on this phone yet. Don't get me wrong it does look nice but...
1. i need more info
2. i'd like to see someone have some hand time with it
3. it's the first generation of 4g for a company(moto) and there are bound to be release issues.
Yeah, I am a little scared because of the locked bootloader of a Moto. I have been a long time HTC user and have always rooted. So updates wasn't an issue. I am going to be interested in what LG and Sammy have to offer tomorrow.
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Yeah, I am a little scared because of the locked bootloader of a Moto. I have been a long time HTC user and have always rooted. So updates wasn't an issue. I am going to be interested in what LG and Sammy have to offer tomorrow.

you sound like everyone else when the Droid X was about to be released.."oh it will never be rooted, it will never be able to be themed, we'll never be able to use custom Roms"....have faith man. There are people out there already drooling at getting their hands on this so they can say they cracked it first. It will happen.
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you sound like everyone else when the Droid X was about to be released.."oh it will never be rooted, it will never be able to be themed, we'll never be able to use custom Roms"....have faith man. There are people out there already drooling at getting their hands on this so they can say they cracked it first. It will happen.

I don't think anyone is worried about just getting it rooted, everyone is worried about the locked bootloader. That is the big problem. Also while the X can run custom roms it isn't the same as the Incredible.

Also it cannot run custom kernals yet either I believe.
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I don't think anyone is worried about just getting it rooted, everyone is worried about the locked bootloader. That is the big problem. Also while the X can run custom roms it isn't the same as the Incredible.

Also it cannot run custom kernals yet either I believe.
I don't understand the problem. I have a rooted X right now, running a rom, and I've applied themes, and even used the 3G Hotspot hack. What else do you need?
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I don't understand the problem. I have a rooted X right now, running a rom, and I've applied themes, and even used the 3G Hotspot hack. What else do you need?

One thing if I am not mistaken is you can never run a true AOSP ROM, also you most likely won't ever get a cyanogen rom either. I guess for most it won't matter.

Also flashing different kernals can overclock and undervolt battery if you want. I know the Droid X can now overclock but it is a little different.
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I don't understand the problem. I have a rooted X right now, running a rom, and I've applied themes, and even used the 3G Hotspot hack. What else do you need?

+1 like this guy said what more do you really want? I mean how much more is the use of a custom kernal going to give you over a custom RoM. I'm sure there are a few advantages but not to the point of where people should be jumping ship and bashing Motorola because of the locked bootloader. I would almost bet some people just hear the words "locked bootloader" and automatically think " well pi$$ i'm not using moto"...but really not knowing exactly what it means.
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One thing if I am not mistaken is you can never run a true AOSP ROM, also you most likely won't ever get a cyanogen rom either. I guess for most it won't matter.

Also flashing different kernals can overclock and undervolt battery if you want. I know the Droid X can now overclock but it is a little different.
cyanogen rom ? I don't care about it being cyanogen. There are great roms and themes out there for the Droid X right now.
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cyanogen rom ? I don't care about it being cyanogen. There are great roms and themes out there for the Droid X right now.

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+1 like this guy said what more do you really want? I mean how much more is the use of a custom kernal going to give you over a custom RoM. I'm sure there are a few advantages but not to the point of where people should be jumping ship and bashing Motorola because of the locked bootloader. I would almost bet some people just hear the words "locked bootloader" and automatically think " well pi$$ i'm not using moto"...but really not knowing exactly what it means.
Ok, so can you put Vanilla Android on an X? Can you put a ROM with Sense on an X? Can you put any other UI other than Blurr?
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Ok, so can you put Vanilla Android on an X? Can you put a ROM with Sense on an X? Can you put any other UI other than Blurr?

and what would you gain by doing that? You can put custom Roms on it, If you want Sense UI then why wouldn't you just buy an HTC product. Thats kind of like someone walking in a Ford dealership and saying i want a Chevy but i'm going to buy this Ford oh btw can you put a Chevy motor in it for me....Some of the custom roms out for the X get rid of a lot of the Blurr. Have you used an X with a custom Rom on it? Apex for one has done a really nice job of cleaning it up.
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cyanogen rom ? I don't care about it being cyanogen. There are great roms and themes out there for the Droid X right now.
I am not saying there are not, I really enjoyed my Droid x, great phone. It has done a lot more than most expected it terms of custom roms. But still it won't have the amount of roms as the Droid or the Incredible.

Still doesn't mean it isn't awesome and satisfies most.
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and what would you gain by doing that? You can put custom Roms on it, If you want Sense UI then why wouldn't you just buy an HTC product. Thats kind of like someone walking in a Ford dealership and saying i want a Chevy but i'm going to buy this Ford oh btw can you put a Chevy motor in it for me....Some of the custom roms out for the X get rid of a lot of the Blurr. Have you used an X with a custom Rom on it? Apex for one has done a really nice job of cleaning it up.
No I have never used an X period. I am a long time HTC user. The reason I would go with a Motorola is hardware only as I have yet to hear somebody that likes blurr UI.
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and what would you gain by doing that? You can put custom Roms on it, If you want Sense UI then why wouldn't you just buy an HTC product. Thats kind of like someone walking in a Ford dealership and saying i want a Chevy but i'm going to buy this Ford oh btw can you put a Chevy motor in it for me....Some of the custom roms out for the X get rid of a lot of the Blurr. Have you used an X with a custom Rom on it? Apex for one has done a really nice job of cleaning it up.
Why does it matter why he wants to do that? A lot of people like Sense, also right now people are liking the dual core processor instead of what HTC has right now. I understand why someone would want this phone.

It looks like a complete beast.

Back to the question, as far as I know it is pretty hard to get a Sense rom working. Depending on the bootloader it might not have a true AOSP Rom, Stock android. But like some have said there are roms on the Droid X that are pretty close and run great.
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No I have never used an X period. I am a long time HTC user. The reason I would go with a Motorola is hardware only as I have yet to hear somebody that likes blurr UI.

Totally agree with that, I personally don't care for HTC's build. Motorola phones to be are great hardware wise, don't care for blur myself, granted I don't think it is horrible either.
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No I have never used an X period. I am a long time HTC user. The reason I would go with a Motorola is hardware only as I have yet to hear somebody that likes blurr UI.

well there are a lot of people that don't like Blurr. Personally even when i was stock i was fine with it. I wouldn't say i loved it but it definitely wasn't bad enough for me to whine about. With the addition of a custom rom it was much better. Also i just noticed Droidlife has some new pics of the bionic up now and i have to say it looks a little thick.

also i know this isn't the forum but wow i'm excited about that Moto tablet.
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i see the principal behind having sense on a moto, you want to try and get the best of both worlds but at the end of the day it comes down to picking between good hardware or software...yeah i could see where it would cause issues lol
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well there are a lot of people that don't like Blurr. Personally even when i was stock i was fine with it. I wouldn't say i loved it but it definitely wasn't bad enough for me to whine about. With the addition of a custom rom it was much better. Also i just noticed Droidlife has some new pics of the bionic up now and i have to say it looks a little thick.

also i know this isn't the forum but wow i'm excited about that Moto tablet.

Yeah that tablet looks awesome. Agreed I don't think blur was horrible, man it is so much better than Touchwiz, Droid X out of the box is so much better than the Fascinate.
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Yeah that tablet looks awesome. Agreed I don't think blur was horrible, man it is so much better than Touchwiz, Droid X out of the box is so much better than the Fascinate.

agreed. At least they're heading in the right direction i guess.

Yeah i'm about 80% positive on wanting that tablet. droid life just updated some info on it as well.
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So everyone is talking about the Atrix, but I would rather have the bigger screen. Both should be nice.

Anyone have any idea why the Bionic doesn't look to be running the same software as the Atrix? You can definitely see blur on the Atrix, but it seems to be an updated version running on the Bionic.
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i can't really tell either. I need some more info and a good hands on video of the Bionic.
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i can't really tell either. I need some more info and a good hands on video of the Bionic.
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Alright, no big deal that the atrix has 1gb of ram and the bionic only has 512mb. It will be enough AND the atrix DOES NOT have 4G LTE, and 8mp camera, a 1.3m front facing camera, and a 4.3 inch screen, so I am switching AT&T which i am on now, for the bionic on verizon. I don't want the atrix. The 512mb of ram is just a little set back.
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a good point was made over in the X forums. This bad boy has a Nvidia chip not a Texas Instruments chip. Way back when all the fuss about the e-fuse was being made it was mentioned that TI most likely had a big say in the bootloader being locked. New Company might mean we could get some unlocked goodness. This is just an idea, lets pray for the best
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It does look thick. But then again, I have nothing to compare it to right now. If it's as thick as the Thunderbolt/Evo I'll be ok with that. Blur actually looks decent for once. I wish they would have gone into the widgets.
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a good point was made over in the X forums. This bad boy has a Nvidia chip not a Texas Instruments chip. Way back when all the fuss about the e-fuse was being made it was mentioned that TI most likely had a big say in the bootloader being locked. New Company might mean we could get some unlocked goodness. This is just an idea, lets pray for the best
Yeah I heard this early as well, we can only hope.
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i just dont understand why they couldn't have given the bionic that extra 512 mb of ram..what could it have hurt...
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i just dont understand why they couldn't have given the bionic that extra 512 mb of ram..what could it have hurt...
+1, hopefully with the T2 we won't really feel it.
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Also, VGA front cam? I wonder if that will have an impact on video calls.
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Also, VGA front cam? I wonder if that will have an impact on video calls.
I think that was a smart move. VGA front cam will consume less data compared to the 1.3 and 2MP cameras thus allowing for smoother streaming video too.
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+1 like this guy said what more do you really want? I mean how much more is the use of a custom kernal going to give you over a custom RoM. I'm sure there are a few advantages but not to the point of where people should be jumping ship and bashing Motorola because of the locked bootloader. I would almost bet some people just hear the words "locked bootloader" and automatically think " well pi$$ i'm not using moto"...but really not knowing exactly what it means.

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cyanogen rom ? I don't care about it being cyanogen. There are great roms and themes out there for the Droid X right now.
you'll care when 2.4 comes out and Moto decides to not release it for the DX.... or whatever version they drop support for. at the moment, because of the locked bootloader, we can only have custom roms for the current version released by Moto
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you'll care when 2.4 comes out and Moto decides to not release it for the DX.... or whatever version they drop support for. at the moment, because of the locked bootloader, we can only have custom roms for the current version released by Moto
I tend to agree. I am only familiar with HTC. How are Sammy and LG. Do they have locked bootloaders?

At this point I really like the hardware specs of the Motorola and presumable the Sammy and LG. I like the software of the HTC. I would like to combine the best of hardware + software for my device. From what I understand the Sammy software isn't that good and they are slow at releasing updates. If the bootloader can be unlocked on the Sammy then that wouldn't be an issue.
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The last Sammy *edit* came with a child-lock bootloader that took less than a day to crack, while Moto bootloaders are locked up like Fort Knox.** We (Fascinate crowd) have custom kernels and even AOSP available now thanks to an excellent group of developers. Being able to upgrade the kernel is a big deal, as this allows a lot of behind the scenes performance improvements.

Although the Fascinate runs the best 2.1 Eclair of any phone, the unlocked bootloader has not yet got us to Froyo because Sammy sourcecode is crap. Motorolas definitely see updates sooner, but IMO the locked bootloader (inability to install custom kernel) is still not worth it.

Lets hope the bionic bootloader is unlocked.
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The last Sammy does not have a locked bootloader so I don't expect the next one to. We (Fascinate crowd) have custom kernels and even AOSP available now thanks to an excellent group of developers. Being able to upgrade the kernel is a big deal, as this allows a lot of behind the scenes performance improvements.

Although the Fascinate runs the best 2.1 Eclair of any phone, the unlocked bootloader has not yet got us to Froyo because Sammy sourcecode is crap. Motorolas definitely see updates sooner, but IMO the locked bootloader (inability to install custom kernel) is still not worth it.

Lets hope the bionic bootloader is unlocked.
Wow ok. Will we know if the Bionic's bootloader is unlocked prior to release or is thing something that will come out when developers get a hold of it after the release?

Also, any idea on LG. Bootloader locked? Source code any good?
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