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Old August 18th, 2011, 08:42 PM   #601 (permalink)
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DROID Bionic Hits MAP at $299 Starting September 8 (Updated) - Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog

Take it onboard for what you think it's worth, and start saving up your money
Anyone read all those comments in there? lots of h8rs....

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Agreed, especially since we're all locked into these 2yr contracts where Verizon makes the real money.

If you're patient, you can wait a few months for the price to come down a little, or you can buy a refurb that may be just as good as new.
Ohm HELL no. I am NOT going to buy a refurb, No stinking way. New or not.

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Ohm HELL no. I am NOT going to buy a refurb, No stinking way. New or not.
Eh, the only thing likely to have wear is the battery [real cheap to replace] and the keyboard [not on Bionic]. The screens are largely indestructible these days, so the only scratches would be on the body.

But hey, I'm not going to begrudge anybody who wants their new toy to be pristine.
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Ummm, no. There are lots of internal components that may test out just fine, but may exhibit erratic failures that are not easily diagnosable. With refurbs, they're not extensively tested like a new product hitting the shelves - they're given cursory tests, and as long as they pass, are sold as refurbished units.

Trust me, I know many people who have gone through 3+ refurbs in the original Motorola DROID....
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True, if a model is known for design or manufacturing failures then those may well be present in refurbs (often customer returns). And I certainly wouldn't buy a used hard drive or any component likely to be abused by a previous owner -- blown speaker?
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DROID Bionic Hits MAP at $299 Starting September 8 (Updated) - Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog

Take it onboard for what you think it's worth, and start saving up your money
Dang, I always log in every day to see if I can *leak* something, I logged in today and saw that the MAP was out and freaked. But it looks like Droid Life is already on top of it.

I can confirm it's real though!
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Trust me, I know many people who have gone through 3+ refurbs in the original Motorola DROID....
This is true, I'm getting my 7th one in today!
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Dang, I always log in every day to see if I can *leak* something, I logged in today and saw that the MAP was out and freaked. But it looks like Droid Life is already on top of it.

I can confirm it's real though!
Lol yeah, DL's got some good insiders....

So do we, but we've also got some corporate insiders, so.....

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This is true, I'm getting my 7th one in today!
Yeah, I saw your post in the DROID forums after making my post - was going to link to it, but forgot.

Here ya go: 7th replacement Droid...
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Sure am glad for the rumored/confirmed release date, my OG Droid may be taking a nose dive soon, this morn after I had charged it go the message of Damaged SD Card.

Currently not sure if it is the card or the reader on the Droid (kinda hoping it is the latter. though the message does not come up if I boot without the card)
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Sure am glad for the rumored/confirmed release date, my OG Droid may be taking a nose dive soon, this morn after I had charged it go the message of Damaged SD Card.
See if you can read it in an external USB card reader. Could be hardware failure or maybe the filesystem got scrambled and needs reformatting. Hope you didn't lose any important files!
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See if you can read it in an external USB card reader. Could be hardware failure or maybe the filesystem got scrambled and needs reformatting. Hope you didn't lose any important files!
Me too. and was planning on doing that tonight at home.
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About a month ago my 16GB card just took a dump. DIED on me. Nothing would read it. Fortunately I had everything backed up regularly to the laptop... so I just copied it all to my stand-by 32GB card and rocked on. I cannot emphasize the importance of backups nearly enough. Double redundancy is a virtue in electronics
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About a month ago my 16GB card just took a dump. DIED on me. Nothing would read it. Fortunately I had everything backed up regularly to the laptop... so I just copied it all to my stand-by 32GB card and rocked on. I cannot emphasize the importance of backups nearly enough. Double redundancy is a virtue in electronics
Seems like the 16GB would be the last resort...
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Seems like the 16GB would be the last resort...
Yeah, well... turns out that ClockworkMod had trouble with the 32GB card and making backups. I guess it would choke - on MY Droid anyway - on that much memory, and make a backup on 1 out of 3 attempts. SO I stashed the 32GB away for my next phone. Turns out I needed it and CWM seems to be behaving now. For the most part.
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Chief - did you 'upgrade' CWM from the 2.5.x series to the 3.1.x series?

I think that would make a difference...
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Uh, no, I honestly didn't know about that update... where do I get it and how do I install it?

Not that it matters much, with my Droid retiring in a few weeks...
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ROM Manager (I beleive it requires RM Premium) --> All Clockwork Recoveries --> 3.1.0.2
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What exactly does the new CWM do that the 2.5.x.x doesn't? Is it a quantum leap or a minor upgrade?
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I was looknig for that, ISTR that improved 32GB SDCard support was one of hte main features....

I cannot find it now, let me look further.
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That's okay... provided it works, I'll flash it THANKS
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backup first, and reboot after backup and before flashing, just in case - our DROIDs are temperamental, and I've heard of more than a few that did not like CWMRecovery 3
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I thought Clockwork transcended backups, in the grand scheme of things. What partition is it in, in case I have to do something drastic - and if CWM 3 doesn't like my Droid, how the heck do I restore the backup if it won't work?

I'm so easily confused
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Recovery and backups are independent. I'm just saying to make a backup in cae things get really hosed b/c 1) CWMRecovery 3 does not work, and 2) ROM Manager cannot force any recovery onto the phone, then 3) You try to use the old SBF Flash method to get a Recovery onto your phone, which leads to 4) Your entire phone being hosed.

I'm planning for the 0.00001584% chance that all this happens just because you tried to flash CWMRecovery 3 onto your phone at my behest.

I do this because I recently got bitten in the arse big time - I was used to making backups offsite with my machine, but when I started the Master's program, at the same time completing my Mathematics Bachelor's, I got really bogged down and stopped making my backups - unfortunately for me. I'm very computer savvy, owning my own repair business as well as having worked in the IT business for companies like Radiant Systems and IBM Global Services for over 12 years, and yet I got hit by a doozy - to be specific, a lightning strike in my neighborhood that took out my PSU (will not start no matter what signal I send to it to start, unless I disconnect the power source and reconnect it) and fried all three of my HDs - 80 GB System SSD, 500 GB Data and 500 GB Storage.

All the raw data I had collected from my Thesis research is gone - the raw data, the interpreted data (in the form of light Statistical analysis in Excel spreadsheets) is in the cloud, but the rest - *poof*.

I had my system set up so that only Window System was on the SSD, and all data was on a separate physical (500 GB) HD, and that the downloads (in particular my M$ TechNet .ISOs) were on the third drive. No RAID, but I had never befor lost multiple drives on a single system simultaneously.

There's always a first time....

So, I'm encouraging you to not get caught with your pants down.
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You know what, JohnGalt? I appreciate the advice and all, and really thank you for looking stuff up for me... but if it's all the same to you, I'm gonna stick to what works for the next few weeks. It's been so long since I rooted or did anything really fancy to this phone (and I've never SBF'd) that I wouldn't want to repeat it on this senile old thing.

It works. I find no reason to mess with it just to have the "latest & greatest" ClockworkMod and risk it not working.

I'm of the old "if it ain't broke don't fix it" school of thought

Okay, we can return this thread to its regularly scheduled speculation...
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Good plan. And as for what I did, it's what I do. If that makes any sense at all, good, 'cause I'm thoroughly losing my sanity ...

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Ohm HELL no. I am NOT going to buy a refurb, No stinking way. New or not.
Lol, but refurb would never be new. by definition.
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You misunderstood - Either I buy new or I do not buy.

But the onus is on me, because I see that I wrote it as if I meant new refurb or not a new refurb, which, as you pointed out, is a contradiction....

Sorry!
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All the raw data I had collected from my Thesis research is gone - the raw data, the interpreted data (in the form of light Statistical analysis in Excel spreadsheets) is in the cloud, but the rest - *poof*.
OMG what a disaster, sorry to hear about that JLG. You went way out of your way to configure the system in a smart way and even do offsite backups, and then Murphy strikes in the worst possible way. I gather interpreted results aren't publishable w/o the raw data, but at least you have a headstart in regenerating and interpreting new data.

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Technically true, but as a practical matter refurbs are sometimes customer returns by someone who never even took the item out of the box, or it could even be remarked manufacturer overstock. But you're right it probably won't carry the same warranty and I can understand why it's not the right choice for everybody.
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OMG what a disaster, sorry to hear about that JLG. You went way out of your way to configure the system in a smart way and even do offsite backups, and then Murphy strikes in the worst possible way. I gather interpreted results aren't publishable w/o the raw data, but at least you have a headstart in regenerating and interpreting new data.
Thanks - and yeah, I have a headstart. but still - sucks, yanno?
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I'm still hoping it's a world phone. that would give it every feature I need for the next few years.
http://www.phandroid.com/2011/08/08/motorola-droid-bionic-fcc-listing-tells-of-gsm-radios-a-bunch-of-other-stuff-we-already-knew/
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just noticed the bionic is now in the scroll bar on verizons home screen. didnt see it before
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just noticed the bionic is now in the scroll bar on verizons home screen. didnt see it before
I don't know where you guys are accessing your vzw pages. Every time something is mentioned about the Bionic being on there, I go to it and it's gone.

You know, all this garbage that happens with official "leaked" crap, like the idiot at Samsung that leaked that the SGSII would be 4G, before it was retracted saying he meant the Tab 10.1 (yeah right. . .kind of hard to blame that on a typo), and then that huge Bionic page on Verizon a few days ago that inexplicably disappeared, as well as that Motorola spec page that inexplicably disappeared, and then this. . . .

Either the manufacturers and carriers are yanking our chains and then go on these forums to see what the geek reaction is, which is very rude and borderline cruel, or the cell phone industry is filled with stupid apes that can't tell their heads from their crap holes.
 
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It's still there, Bluefire. I'm on it now.

Go to www.verizonwireless.com and just watch the screen. Various deals will come and go on the page, including the Bionic's "Coming Soon". If you still don't see it, then I have no idea what's up with that...
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Yup its there... for me anyway..

try this: Droid Bionic - Verizon Wireless
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It's still there, Bluefire. I'm on it now.

Go to www.verizonwireless.com and just watch the screen. Various deals will come and go on the page, including the Bionic's "Coming Soon". If you still don't see it, then I have no idea what's up with that...
Nope, not here. For what it's worth, my zip is 60563.

All I get is:

Droid2 buy 1 get 1 free sale
4G Internet Devices Sale
Smartphone sale featuring Droid X2 and Experia Play
Free phones featuring LG Cosmos 2
Blackberry Bold 9930

Edit: I tried NightAngel's link, too, and it's just that stupid Coming Soon page that's been up since July.

So I guess the Bionic isn't coming to Illinois. Oh well. At least we have Ethanol gasoline, not that anyone uses it.
 
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Nope, not here. For what it's worth, my zip is 60563.

All I get is:

Droid2 buy 1 get 1 free sale
4G Internet Devices Sale
Smartphone sale featuring Droid X2 and Experia Play
Free phones featuring LG Cosmos 2
Blackberry Bold 9930

Edit: I tried NightAngel's link, too, and it's just that stupid Coming Soon page that's been up since July.

So I guess the Bionic isn't coming to Illinois. Oh well. At least we have Ethanol gasoline, not that anyone uses it.
Thats odd, though all it is was a 2 sec splash screen that said 'coming soon' it had a 'more details' button which was my link. That was what you saw, just the email sign up page
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Nope, not here. For what it's worth, my zip is 60563.

All I get is:

Droid2 buy 1 get 1 free sale
4G Internet Devices Sale
Smartphone sale featuring Droid X2 and Experia Play
Free phones featuring LG Cosmos 2
Blackberry Bold 9930

Edit: I tried NightAngel's link, too, and it's just that stupid Coming Soon page that's been up since July.

So I guess the Bionic isn't coming to Illinois. Oh well. At least we have Ethanol gasoline, not that anyone uses it.
That is pretty weird, I just went to it also and got the page (it's the same one I got a couple of days ago that disappeared again, guess it's back). Here is a Screenshot with Time & Date circled

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You know what, JohnGalt? I appreciate the advice and all, and really thank you for looking stuff up for me... but if it's all the same to you, I'm gonna stick to what works for the next few weeks.
"Prayer."

That's what I use LOL

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Now it's there. Weird.
 
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it was there Sunday so it was likely there all weekend.
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So I guess the Bionic isn't coming to Illinois. Oh well. At least we have Ethanol gasoline, not that anyone uses it.
Well maybe it's just not coming to Naperville! I'm 45 mins away from there, and I've had it there since the first post.

I'd love to use Ethanol, but I don't have a car that can use it.
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fellow illinoisians, i live in lombard. its on verizons website i just checked. so what are the chances of the bionic possibly coming out aug 26th like ive read? none at all, thats what i figured.
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fellow illinoisians, i live in lombard. its on verizons website i just checked. so what are the chances of the bionic possibly coming out aug 26th like ive read? none at all, thats what i figured.
26th? Naaah. That's a Friday.
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26th? Naaah. That's a Friday.

yeeeaaah, wishful thinking i guess.
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fellow illinoisians, i live in lombard. its on verizons website i just checked.
Yes, yes, yes, I know I know! I have already indicated that it is now there. I'm sorry if I made everyone look. But seriously, I did put this to rest.

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Now it's there. Weird.
See?

And if anyone wants to flame me out, go ahead. I've dunked my entire body in a steel drum full of ethanol, and am ready for your matches. At least I will burn cleaner than regular unleaded.

As for the 26th, I would think it's not happening. As Tehsusenoh said, it's a Friday and Verizon loves Thursdays, for some reason.

But I almost don't even care anymore. I'm looking forward more to the return of The Office on thursdays than the stupid Bionic. I'm going to wait for the Prime in October!!
 
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If Bionic's launch were anytime in August, there would be more than a teaser screen by now. I think September 8th will be the magic date after all...
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Yes, yes, yes, I know I know! I have already indicated that it is now there. I'm sorry if I made everyone look. But seriously, I did put this to rest.



See?

And if anyone wants to flame me out, go ahead. I've dunked my entire body in a steel drum full of ethanol, and am ready for your matches. At least I will burn cleaner than regular unleaded.

As for the 26th, I would think it's not happening. As Tehsusenoh said, it's a Friday and Verizon loves Thursdays, for some reason.

But I almost don't even care anymore. I'm looking forward more to the return of The Office on thursdays than the stupid Bionic. I'm going to wait for the Prime in October!!

i know you said you eventually saw it on the site but i just had to check and confirm it for myself. im getting the Bionic as soon as it comes out. i cant wait another month for the Prime, even if it actually does launch in october. as for the office, i dont know if im gonna like it as much without steve carell.
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... as for the office, i dont know if im gonna like it as much without steve carell.
As long as Jenna Fischer doesn't leave, I think it'll be fine. James Spader is going to be awesome!

And I understand about not waiting another month. I was in your boat as well, my friend. Perhaps when September 8 comes around and still no Bionic, you will think about the Prime.



Look into the pretty lights, my friend. . . . feel the force. . . .you know that the Bionic is a fickle little tease. . . .the Prime awaits. . . . .
 
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if your not getting it, you may need to clear your cookies. if your browser caches a copy you may not get a fresh page showing the change. i.e. does that allot. i had a fight with my internet guy about a change to my home screen that didnt show up. well he was right. after i refreshed it popped up.
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As long as Jenna Fischer doesn't leave, I think it'll be fine. James Spader is going to be awesome!

And I understand about not waiting another month. I was in your boat as well, my friend. Perhaps when September 8 comes around and still no Bionic, you will think about the Prime.



Look into the pretty lights, my friend. . . . feel the force. . . .you know that the Bionic is a fickle little tease. . . .the Prime awaits. . . . .

if the Bionic doesnt come out by sep 8th i'll be pissed, then maybe i'll wait for a different phone. the one thing that would make me wanna get the Prime is that its supposed to be the first phone with ice cream sandwich. but if its gonna have be 4.6 inch screen i think thats way too big. i was already dreading the idea of when the Bionic was supposedly going to be 4.5 inches.
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if the Bionic doesnt come out by sep 8th i'll be pissed, then maybe i'll wait for a different phone. the one thing that would make me wanna get the Prime is that its supposed to be the first phone with ice cream sandwich. but if its gonna have be 4.6 inch screen i think thats way too big. i was already dreading the idea of when the Bionic was supposedly going to be 4.5 inches.
No, it will come out September 8, I'm pretty sure about it. And if bigger screen size is a problem for you, then I think the Bionic will suit you perfectly.

Everyone has their own standards and preferences. I'm not even that pissed anymore about Moto's delays. It's just that the Prime seems way too sweet to not wait another month for it.
 
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