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Old July 28th, 2011, 05:28 PM   #301 (permalink)
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Sad day, I was at Verizon and they said they have a spot in inventory set aside already...

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Ye I was one of those saying if its Sept...I might as well just wait.

I might have a career in politics....cuz now I dont know.....I might get it if it came in Sept..lol
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Everyone migrate to the Samsung Function forums.
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I have been very patently waiting for this phone. My og Droid is going quickly (I have to fc app every 20 minute just to get my launcher to display, and this is the second time I have had to type this because I got a phone call and this was gone when I came back to it) I have greatly appreciated trolling through this site getting updates and reading speculation about what the bionic would be. My fall back phone has been the D3 (I was not sure if I would like the 4.3, 4.5 was a deffinet deal breaker for me) I do live in a good 4th area and I was excited to be ahead of the tech curve with the speed of LTE, as I was when I bought my Droid in November of 09. I am so fed up with Motorola #@%4ing around with this phone that I don't even want to give them my money for a D3. Not sure where this post is going, I just needed to vent.
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I have been very patently waiting for this phone. My og Droid is going quickly ... I am so fed up with Motorola #@%4ing around with this phone that I don't even want to give them my money for a D3. Not sure where this post is going, I just needed to vent.
This frustration level must be getting to me too -- just started googling the Nexus Prime. Sweet! Wonder if Android 4.0 has anything in particular worth waiting for.
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"Jha confirmed the September time frame for the Droid Bionic but also adds that they have at least one other 4G LTE smartphone planned for this year."

That probably means September of 2012 right?

I'm done waiting for the bionic. I don't think I'll get it. By the time the bionic is out, a month or so later there will be a 1.5 Ghz Dual-Core + phone.

I'm gonna just wait for one of those.
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I might still consider getting Bionic in September if Function turns out to be 3G phone. I'm getting Tab 10.1 soon anyway and I need a good LTE phone to tether to it through bluetooth. According to Tab forum here Motorola phones seem to work well with Tab 10.1 for tethering interestingly. So if Function doesn't have 4G and Bionic has reliable LTE with battery life on par with Charge at least, I might be getting Bionic. I know that's couple of big "IF" though.
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There is no planned 1.2 GHZ or 1.5 GHZ LTE phone planned for at least 2 months from the release of Bionic.

I would suggest getting the bionic if you are looking for the first great LTE phone. Nothing coming close enough on the heels of it from other vendors.

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A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

If you want the best LTE phone to date, I would get the bionic. It will be here in Sept. Book it!


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Ditto. I fully expect the Dinara to be *announced* as CES and then tentatively have a June/July release date. Moto is going to be lucky to get the Bionic released in 2011 let alone another "super" phone!!!!!
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A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

If you want the best LTE phone to date, I would get the bionic. It will be here in Sept. Book it!


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wow, such confidence, "booking" September only after half the world knows that the Moto CEO confirmed it today.

YodaDroid, you keep talking like you know something, on this and other threads, but you haven't actually revealed anything of substance. Obviously you could reveal anything substantial if you wanted to, if you really knew anything, with total anonymity. Unless your real name is Yoda Droid, which I highly doubt.
 
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wow, such confidence, "booking" September only after half the world knows that the Moto CEO confirmed it today.

YodaDroid, you keep talking like you know something, on this and other threads, but you haven't actually revealed anything of substance. Obviously you could reveal anything substantial if you wanted to, if you really knew anything, with total anonymity. Unless your real name is Yoda Droid, which I highly doubt.
You can call me Yoda.


Everything you want to know about the droid bionic, you already know.

The Specs of Galaxy S II are already known. Keep in mind that VZW 3G is CDMA. Different tests needed to get it working on than it requires in rest of world.

Plus, VZW not super happy to be 2nd fiddle to rest of world. Guess who's going to get marketing push?

The question is, why are you still asking?
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I found out a couple days ago that Verizon will allow me to upgrade now at the discounted price if I sign a new 2 year contract. My 20 months comes next march of 2012, because I bought my "X" on launch day. The advantage of waiting until next march is Verizon will also give me an additional "Loyalty" discount. They didn't specify the dollar amount of that discount though. Probably $50 to $100 as it's taking the place of the NE2 program. (I'm guessing)

So, if I go for the Bionic, (whenever it's released) I will probably go with the full price because if the Dinara or something even better is available next March 15th, I will use my upgrade and discounts at that time. Then sell the Bionic to recoup some of the cost.

I'm in no hurry for any of this to happen as my Droid X is treating me just the best.

Patiently/Impatiently waiting for something/anything to happen......
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The Specs of Galaxy S II are already known. Keep in mind that VZW 3G is CDMA. Different tests needed to get it working on than it requires in rest of world.
Sorry, but this just confirms you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, the SGSII specs are known.

For the Europe version.

The CDMA Verizon version hasn't even passed through the FCC yet. There is absolutely NOTHING known about it. We know more about the elusive Bionic's specs than the SGSII.

And give me a link that says specifically and officially from Moto's mouth what the Bionic's specs are.



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The question is, why are you still asking?
And this just confirms that you're looking for a flame war.

Too bad.
 
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wow, such confidence, "booking" September only after half the world knows that the Moto CEO confirmed it today.

YodaDroid, you keep talking like you know something, on this and other threads, but you haven't actually revealed anything of substance. Obviously you could reveal anything substantial if you wanted to, if you really knew anything, with total anonymity. Unless your real name is Yoda Droid, which I highly doubt.


Every single thing he says we already know/heavily suspect so he is just hedging his odds.

If something comes out differently he will probably claim he was just joking.

Besides, who says 'book it' after every freaking post these days?
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There is no planned 1.2 GHZ or 1.5 GHZ LTE phone planned for at least 2 months from the release of Bionic.

I would suggest getting the bionic if you are looking for the first great LTE phone. Nothing coming close enough on the heels of it from other vendors.

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What about the Nexus Prime which is hinted to be coming out in December?
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What about the Nexus Prime which is hinted to be coming out in December?
Right. That's what I'm really thinking about. The Nexus Prime would have a lot going for it, given that it's going to be getting all the updates first from Google. That's got to be worth something. Also, I think I heard somewhere that it has an unlocked bootloader, (I'm talking about previous Nexus phones), so it would be rootable almost immediately. That, with almost no bloatware (if any), probably Ice Cream Sandwich, and top of the line processor and screen specs, and that might be the one to get me through 2 years.

Thank goodness my OG droid has no problems. I can hold out.
 
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Besides, who says 'book it' after every freaking post these days?
This made me laugh out loud, literally.
 
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Everyone migrate to the Samsung Function forums.
LOL.......amen.....this was the last straw i now have no interest in this phone anymore. Motorola has just irritated me way too much and i don't have to give them my money if I don't want to, samsung function it is.
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There is no planned 1.2 GHZ or 1.5 GHZ LTE phone planned for at least 2 months from the release of Bionic.

I would suggest getting the bionic if you are looking for the first great LTE phone. Nothing coming close enough on the heels of it from other vendors.

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I'm either gonna get the SGS2 or just wait for HTC to release a dual core LTE device. I love Sense.

The only way I would get a Bionic is if it has killer battery life and performance. It needs to be blazing fast like the SGS2 is for me to consider it.
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I prefer the Moto devices (or SGS2) since provide 12.5 gb of extra built-in media storage. The HTC devices tend to have no extra internal storage and then block the sd card behind the battery, so no hotswap.

That is one cool thing about the D3, since has the 12.5gb and the sd card can be hotswapped. D3 is the most stable and best performing device I have owned or tried, so expect the Droid Nukem (Bionic) to be even better.

Still, the SGS2 should have the same features, but maybe no 4G...
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Motorola Solutions, Inc. - UPDATE: Motorola Mobility Reports Strong 2Q But Weak 3Q View

This link gives a couple of quotes from Moto's CEO about why it took so long. Bottom line, they developed their own 4g chips so that they could make some profit from it. If they license it to other manufacturers, they can make a ton of money. On the one hand, it sounds promising, because if they spent so much time on it, then it is probably a good chip, meaning it's smaller, uses less battery power, and is more reliable (otherwise, how could they sell it to other manufacturers over the current tech?)

On the other hand, I still don't think it will make a difference in my decision. The other specs (processor speed, crappy qHD screen instead of Super AMOLED Plus, etc.) are either the same as every other phone that is coming out soon, or even slightly behind.
 
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^So....its looking more n more likely they did make their own LTE chip. So far the LTE phones on Verizon all use Qualcomm LTE chips.

This could be a good long term move if battery life is better...
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Wait a second. How do we all know samsung is going to release the Fuction on verizon in Aug? There has not been a SGII verizon version that went through FCC that we can report about. So why get all up in arms. Yes we have waited long time for this phone, but I rather have them perfect the phone the best they can before releasing it. Think about it LTE is new technology so Moto is trying to get good battery life plus give us a duel core phone. No other company wanted to venture to do this. All they wanted to do is give us a phone on LTE and be done with it. They put hardly any effort in it and gave us 2010 phones. HTC Thunderbolt is exactly like the Evo with just a few different tweaks. So as I say just wait and stop bitching about the wait. Maybe we will be surprised when the thing is released.
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The only thing that'll surprise me is a 1.2 Ghz Processor, or if people can overclock the **** out of a 1 Ghz Processor

Both dual-core. Overclocked to 1.5 Ghz? That thing'll fly!

Although 1. It probably can't be overclocked that high.
2. Bad battery life.
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If the SGS2 comes out in Aug has hinted, I'm taking it. Sept will turn into "Sep 30th"... just wait and see.
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You know, if the stupid thing was 1 GHz and the 4g chipset was actually better than everyone else's, meaning we'd have lightning fast download speeds (for netflix, etc.), I might be tempted to go for it. (Although the qHD screen doesn't appeal to me. . . I had the X2 for a few days, and I was not impressed.)

BUT. . . . I know that I won't jump the gun until I've had at least 2 or 3 weeks checking the forums to see any potential problems or awesomeness, and by then the SGSII will be out. And then. . . .I'll check THAT forum thread for a couple of weeks, and by then the Nexus Prime will probably be about 2 or 3 weeks away!

It's just a cycle. I think once I decide what to do, I'm going to force myself to never check the forums for the next 2 years.

Edit: Wait a minute, I forgot. By the time the Bionic comes out, the SGSII will probably already be here.
 
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I was playing with the D3, and if the screen on the Bionic is the same I will be 100% satisfied, I found it to be extremely sharp and smooth, although some ghosting when going from screen to screen. But I could easily get use to that.

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It actually looks better than the D3 screen . . .

I wouldn't overclock the processors if I were you guys. These phones are cramming a lot of horsepower into a small device . . . you risk melting your CPU as well as voiding your warranty.
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It actually looks better than the D3 screen . . .

I wouldn't overclock the processors if I were you guys. These phones are cramming a lot of horsepower into a small device . . . you risk melting your CPU as well as voiding your warranty.
When overclocking, we take that risk into account. But a little bit of overclocking doesn't hurt.

How do you know the screen looks better? You have one yet? I'd love to see it...
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You know, if the stupid thing was 1 GHz and the 4g chipset was actually better than everyone else's, meaning we'd have lightning fast download speeds (for netflix, etc.), I might be tempted to go for it. (Although the qHD screen doesn't appeal to me. . . I had the X2 for a few days, and I was not impressed.)

BUT. . . . I know that I won't jump the gun until I've had at least 2 or 3 weeks checking the forums to see any potential problems or awesomeness, and by then the SGSII will be out. And then. . . .I'll check THAT forum thread for a couple of weeks, and by then the Nexus Prime will probably be about 2 or 3 weeks away!

It's just a cycle. I think once I decide what to do, I'm going to force myself to never check the forums for the next 2 years.

Edit: Wait a minute, I forgot. By the time the Bionic comes out, the SGSII will probably already be here.
I've gotten 50mbps d/l on Bionic . . . in a major city.

Average d/l ~ 24 mbps down, about 9mbps Up. Night times are typically faster (as expected).


Bionic and GS II are different phones towards different audiences. If you want LTE, bionic is it. If you want 3G, I would say the GS II is a great phone.

Keep in mind that Samsung and Motorola have very different levels of support for their products. Internationally, there is generally less worry about returns because of varying return policy (much stricter). This generally helps samsung.

In the US, it's a different beast. Samsung tends to not support their devices the same way as Motorola. (see average update timings). That being said, it's also part of the reason that samsung is using the international markets as a test bed to find issues. However, CDMA brings a host of new problems that is different from GSM . . . hence the time it takes to port.
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In the US, it's a different beast. Samsung tends to not support their devices the same way as Motorola. (see average update timings). That being said, it's also part of the reason that samsung is using the international markets as a test bed to find issues. However, CDMA brings a host of new problems that is different from GSM . . . hence the time it takes to port.
That's not entirely true. Samsung has CDMA wireless carrier in its home market, and they released GSM, CDMA version together at SGS2 launch. Also they are planning to launch CDMA/LTE version of SGS2 in Korea in early Fall as well.

GSM is only 2G part for voice but WCDMA (UMTS/HSPA+) coupled to it is more advanced 3G technology than slow EvDo 3G.
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I've gotten 50mbps d/l on Bionic . . . in a major city.

Average d/l ~ 24 mbps down, about 9mbps Up. Night times are typically faster (as expected).
Are you currently Beta testing a Bionic or else what's source for this info?
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Are you currently Beta testing a Bionic or else what's source for this info?
HE'S MDB228!

But seriously, I'd like to see the source for this.
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That's not entirely true. Samsung has CDMA wireless carrier in its home market, and they released GSM, CDMA version together at SGS2 launch. Also they are planning to launch CDMA/LTE version of SGS2 in Korea in early Fall as well.

GSM is only 2G part for voice but WCDMA (UMTS/HSPA+) coupled to it is more advanced 3G technology than slow EvDo 3G.
Good points.

Testing CDMA in a country the size of Korea (where let's face it, there's really only 1 city to worry about) vs. the US is two entirely different bests. Not an easy port is what i'm trying to say.
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But seriously, I'd like to see the source for this.
Source of the speed test? Just my memory when I ran it. . . . it was pretty amazing to see though.
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Source of the speed test? Just my memory when I ran it. . . . it was pretty amazing to see though.
So you had your hands on a Bionic? Me thinks not.

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Sanjay Jha: Motorola Droid Bionic Will Have September Release

Disappointing, to say the least. I think there are tons of people who will take either the Bionic or the SGS2... whichever comes out first. I am one of them. If the SGS2 comes out before the Bionic that is going to cost Motorola a lot of customers.
Only if the SGS2 supports LTE, otherwise, the Bionic will still be the only phone with dual-core AND LTE combo.
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"Jha confirmed the September time frame for the Droid Bionic but also adds that they have at least one other 4G LTE smartphone planned for this year."

That probably means September of 2012 right?

I'm done waiting for the bionic. I don't think I'll get it. By the time the bionic is out, a month or so later there will be a 1.5 Ghz Dual-Core + phone.

I'm gonna just wait for one of those.
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I'm guessing the other LTE phone he was referring to is the Dinara.

The Bionic will be 4G, but the SGS2 will not, correct?
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The Bionic will be 4G, but the SGS2 will not, correct?
No one knows yet. Not even Yoda.

However, reports indicate that the SGS2 is putting out an LTE version in Korea (according to the thread in the Function forum) in September. If they're able to do that there, then they don't have to suddenly figure out a weird way to redesign the phone to accommodate LTE. They've already done it.

I don't see a reason why they couldn't do it here.
 
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Guys, guys, asking Yoda for a source is like asking, well, Yoda for a source.
 
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There's a meme for that.
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Good points.

Testing CDMA in a country the size of Korea (where let's face it, there's really only 1 city to worry about) vs. the US is two entirely different bests. Not an easy port is what i'm trying to say.
This just tells me you don't know much about Korea.
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So with the Bionic being pushed back, is it even worth it anymore?

I just chanced my ROM on my OG Droid, and it has been much more stable, and got me thinking, "Is the bionic worth it or should I wait for the best thing?"

I know that if you think that, you will always be waiting, but with phones like the Nexus Prime coming out a month or two after the Bionic, would it be worth waiting for?

Just my thoughts, I havent done much research on the Nexus prime, but right now it was caught my attention and I think I am looking forward to it more than the bionic now... Especially with Ice cream sandwich.

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With the Bionic pushed to September, I think I'm going to stick with my broken enV Touch and wait for the Prime, so long as it comes to Verizon LTE.
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Well, I just posted a similar answer in another thread, but it's worth reiterating. I know there are a lot of people out there like me who are nursing their OG Droids. We can't afford to hold out much longer. I believe the reason we waited this long is because we want a dual core 4G phone. The first one to drop looks to be the Bionic. I can't wait for the Function, which may not have LTE, or the Nexus Prime, which may not even be on Verizon.

And after all this time, Motorola has to have gotten it right. Right?
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I actually **Can** afford to wait since I just got an X2. But my brother really wants a new phone and is not in financial shape to get one. So I think I am going Bionic and will give him my X2 (I came from D1 and he is still using a D1)...
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