dautley

Rootable, same security, no soak that I know of so lets put that rumor to bed.

wildkitten

Can we make up a new rumor?

dautley

Write one up for us wildkitten!

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Thom Little

References to this thread added to the Bionic Reference - Terms - Links indexes.

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Thom Little

Beat her to it ...


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chmodx

I still don't feel outdated on 232

Lodmot

Why the hell is this thread here? FYI, we're NOT supposed to be spreading this around...

EDIT: Apparently everything's okay, so disregard this post. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Last edited by Lodmot; September 22nd, 2012 at 09:48 AM.

jscott96

ICS will now be out in Q4 as per Motorola:

https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c

dave1812

Maybe Moto will "make up" a new quarter--Q10....

x026092

The ICS OTA will come with a bow in it, just in time for Christmas... I hate it when I'm right.

Thom Little

The reference says ...

"ICS Upgrade (Android 4.0.4) rollout to begin in Q4."

What is not mentioned is the year.

Verizon is known to be "very creative".

(For the last 12+ months they have been telling me that 4G was coming to my town in December.)

... Thom

wildkitten

They're going to skip ICS altogether for us and give us, not JB, but Windows Phone 8.

dautley

At least flash seems to work properly on .246 but maybe Verizon needs 3 more months to tweak their bloat, then again there's smoke and mirrors....

dautley

I heard that one except it was vouchers for refurbished iPhone 3's......

PowerBomb

How do you feel about 246 with the combined news that the Q3 deadline got pushed back yet again? Flash even works now? Would you still recommend staying with 232? Now that they're saying the official update won't be until Q4, I'm thinking about finally breaking the 232 barrier and just flashing one of the newer ones and worry about how to accept the OTA update IF it ever comes out later.

Thom Little

What I have been reading is ... hold off on making any decision until Tuesday.


... Thom

dautley

I know they are saying Q4 now but that doesn't necessarily mean it will take near that long, it just means they may miss the third quarter deadline.
As far as going beyond .232 , it also means they could have another three months to do something radical so you probably shouldn't unless you have a good reason to do so.
Remember what ever Verizon decides to finally push out you will need to be on .195 to get it, or have to hunt it down to install with something like HOB because .195 is the only thing the ICS soak or OTA will ever push to.

dautley

Is that cause Samuri is on vacation and won't officially update HOB to support it till he gets back or something to do with Verizon Thom?

wildkitten

Speaking of doing something radical, what are the chances they may skip ICS altogether and go straight to JB at this point since they did say they would do JB for the Bionic?

Thom Little

I happened on something and can't go into it at this time. If you've been waiting all this time ... wait until Tuesday/Wednesday.

Based on the trends I've been watching over the last year I would not be surprised that they did away with the soak test. What purpose does it serve? The 5.9.905 soak test was accompanied by a mini-release.

... Thom

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HotPepper

**** moto then. This is bs. Now i have to wait even longer to fix 4g datà drops

Hello iphone!!

dautley

I have no idea, but I would say JB instead of ICS is not going to happen, I'll even go out on a limb (like with every build) and say there is a good chance that this might be it as flash seems to be finally fixed but we all know not to hold our breath on that one.

Last edited by dautley; September 22nd, 2012 at 03:02 PM.

dautley

Wasn't really a soak on Droid 4 and the old Moto is gone, so it wouldn't surprise me.

Last edited by dautley; September 22nd, 2012 at 03:03 PM.

Thom Little

You could install 6.7.232 today (at your own risk) and get rid of the data drops. 6.7.246 was reported here as fixing the Flash problem that was the last problem being discussed for the Bioinc ICS release.

It seems to be a Verizon problem. Where do you plan to buy your iPhone5? How soon are you going to get it?

When it comes to iPhone vs. Bionic vs. Razr ... they all have their audiences ... handle all three and go with the one you like.

... Thom

HotPepper

The thing is i shouldnt have to do something on my own time when im paying for a premium service that they know is screwed up!!!

Thom Little

That is absolutely true.

It is also absolutely true that no one in this forum can do anything about that.

On the other hand ... there are a number of people in this forum who can help you take control of your premium device and make it work your way.

IMNHO that is the primary difference between a Bionic/Razr user and an iPhonen user.

There is no single one-size-fits-all answer. The choice is yours.

... Thom

x026092

Remember October 1 is the fourth quarter & I think they are quickly running out of September.

wildkitten

But since Adobe's offical stance is to end Flash on mobile devices, why hold up a release just for it? I like Flash too, but Adobe won't ever be making a new Flash update and it won't support in JB.

Wouldn't it be ironic if they spent 4 months trying to get Flash to work with ICS and then release JB in 2 more months where we won't even get Flash at all.

Thom Little

Logic would seem to tell you the the absence of Flash was not the reason it took so long.

... Thom

dautley

That's the million dollar question, isn't it? Verizon let it slide on Razr and Droid 4 and I don't think they really give a hoot about a phone they no longer sell. I would say flash is just a excuse to keep rejecting it for what ever their real agenda may be, but that's just my personal opinion.

wildkitten

Makes one wonder now that Google owns Motorola that perhaps they are pulling an Apple and are having a fight over bloatware. Just speculation.

HotPepper

Well nows the time. Going to update to ics. Finally! I hate gb from the time i got it. Ugly!

Froyo was better. Here i go wish me luck heh

dautley

Obviously Google has been trying to crack down on bloat for some time as ICS includes a built in ability to freeze some apps.

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dautley

Yep, good luck!

wildkitten

Hm, could it be that Verizon keeps rejecting these ICS releases because it freezes Verizon's apps?

I don't undertsand Verizon's position on the bloatware. If people like the apps, they will keep them. But by making them uninstallable and requiring them for OTA updates, all they do is turn people off their services. Seems like a no win situation for them. But then again, many of their decisions this past year make no sense.

HotPepper

Well i must say im impressed with this ics update! Question though how do i change if i want 3g or 4g mode?

dautley

This should also work on Bionic, I've never had a need to switch over to 3G manually so let me know, at least the menu's come up like they are suppose to.. DROID RAZR ICS Update Removes “3G Only” Option, Here’s How to Manually Toggle It – Droid Life

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dautley

No, because ICS functions the same way on every device including the Razr and Droid 4.

wildkitten

Well, just really confusing. I mean if Flash was the reason, surely Flash didn't work for the Droid 4 or the Razr and was accepted. I mean can there be a difference in an OS between phones? And if so, how can there be that much of a difference between the Bionic and the Razr since they are identical except for the screens.

HotPepper

What uses flash? I dont think i ever use flash for anything

dautley

Now that you asked, one time a couple of years ago when I still had my LG Ally my wife called me from Chattanooga Tennessee and said she was eating at a BBQ place called "Smoky Bones" and that it was really good. I tried going to their web site and it wouldn't load because it needed flash, that's the only time I actually remember trying to use flash on a phone. Of course Ally on Verizon didn't support it!

Last edited by dautley; September 23rd, 2012 at 12:52 AM.

dautley

Yep, Bionic and Razr are close enough to each other,that's why it's the million dollar question.

Last edited by dautley; September 23rd, 2012 at 07:19 AM.

PowerBomb

Yeah I'm not buying the Flash excuse either. As others have said, if it's Adobe's full intention to not support it on mobile anymore, then why would Verizon be so hell bent on getting it to work on one last version of Android before all devices going to JB are pretty much not going to have it anyway. Seems crazy but I'm almost starting to believe the speculation I've read that the Bionic came onto the market right as the last round of people who could be grandfathered into unlimited data were updating and renewing contracts for another 2 years, and maybe they want these Bionic owners to get tired of waiting, come in and get a new device, and get bumped into the tiered data plans like everyone else. Because as mentioned above, Razr and other devices got their ICS updates, but I think those devices came out later on so that anyone upgrading to those wouldn't qualify to stay on unlimited data. I know it was certainly part of my thought process when I got this certified preowned Bionic earlier this year that I wanted to upgrade onto a 4G device and get the best deal I could and still keep my unlimited data.

wildkitten

The only problem with that is the Razr ICS is buggy and they still haven't gotten their fix yet. Somehow it seems tied to the Bionic's ICS release.

I'm just getting tired of Verizon period.

SirEagle

Just my guess but I think the delay has something to do with some phones staying at 1g and others going to 1.2g.

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dautley

I don't believe so, those phones like mine (stuck on 1GHz) seem destined to remain there, and as Bionic was sold as a 1GHz phone I don't think anyone cares. I also haven't heard of anyone losing or gaining the extra 200MHz flashing to newer ICS builds. Either your going to have it or your not.

Last edited by dautley; September 23rd, 2012 at 11:39 AM.

dave1812

I have a nexus 7 with Jelly Bean. I use Flash ALL THE TIME on it...

elementalwindx

Can someone please point me in the right direction to get the newest leak? I'm still on gingerbread and I'm fed up with waiting.

kickbutkuss

http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-bionic/582536-some-links-help-you-ics-back-updated-8-4-12-a.html

SirEagle

Safest to just get the. 232 leak, nothing higher.