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Old October 23rd, 2012, 03:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is there any significant difference between .232 and .246?

The more I'm using ics on my daily driver, the more I like it (Still don't care for webtop).

This is kind of a poll, so please be descriptive.

I'm asking because I have not found any real side by side comparisons. If there's a difference I will take the OTA .246 (After I go back to .905). If there really is nothing significant between the two builds, I'll stay with .232.

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The biggest is that you won't be able to upgrade to the next OTA after 6.7.246 unless you are on 6.7.246.

The second biggest is that they were correcting bugs each time they came up with a new build ... 6.7.232 has bugs that are not in 6.7.246.

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The biggest is that you won't be able to upgrade to the next OTA after 6.7.246 unless you are on 6.7.246.

The second biggest is that they were correcting bugs each time they came up with a new build ... 6.7.232 has bugs that are not in 6.7.246.

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I am also curious about this, and your response makes sense Thom. But, with the hassle of losing all data/etc. when going back to 905, is it really worth it. Whatever latest "update" I receieved a few weeks ago (see this thread, "Android system updating" message), seems to have improved my battery life significantly and made the phone overall more stable. I am not currently rooted, so I can't do a Titanium Backup prior to going back to 905.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 09:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I am also curious about this, and your response makes sense Thom. But, with the hassle of losing all data/etc. when going back to 905, is it really worth it. Whatever latest "update" I receieved a few weeks ago (see this thread, "Android system updating" message), seems to have improved my battery life significantly and made the phone overall more stable. I am not currently rooted, so I can't do a Titanium Backup prior to going back to 905.
If you want to install anything after 6.7.246 then you will need to be at 6.7.246. As for losing data ... the longer you wait the more you will loose.

Your issue is why it is always important to make a backup of what you have before taking an unsupported path.

I am un-root-ed and use My Backup Pro to backup apps and data. The screen layouts are lost in the process and have to be reentered. I have never been root-ed. I have never installed an unsupported release.

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Just wondering what your recovery screen is showing? qe 0/0 ??
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Just wondering what your recovery screen is showing? qe 0/0 ??
It is qe 1/1 ... yea I kn ow ... not what I was told ... Titanium Backup Pro doesn't think I'm rooted either.

Goggling I find that others show 1/1 on an un-root-ed Bionic. Apparently the 0/0 0/1 1/1 is unique to the Razr(s).

The whole point is to keep this device 100% stock so we have something to compare to.

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It is qe 1/1 ... yea I kn ow ... not what I was told ... Titanium Backup Pro doesn't think I'm rooted either.

Goggling I find that others show 1/1 on an un-root-ed Bionic. Apparently the 0/0 0/1 1/1 is unique to the Razr(s).

The whole point is to keep this device 100% stock so we have something to compare to.

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A bunch of people who have never rooted are reporting qe 1/1, maybe Motorola decided to break the rootchecker.....
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Ah, this isn't quite answering my questions people.
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The biggest is that you won't be able to upgrade to the next OTA after 6.7.246 unless you are on 6.7.246.

The second biggest is that they were correcting bugs each time they came up with a new build ... 6.7.232 has bugs that are not in 6.7.246.

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Thank you. I already knew about not getting back.

As for bugs, I figured as much. Meaning I know that different builds are designed to deal
with bugs.

By specific, I mean what bugs were in .232? Other than the dolphin browser scrolling a bit slower I don't see any bugs in 232. And are there any enhancements that are in .246 that's not in 232 ?
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I know of no side-by-side comparison of the unsupported 6.7.232 and the supported 6.7.246. The two reasons I gave before are IMNHO the reasons to go to 6.7.246.

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I know of no side-by-side comparison of the unsupported 6.7.232 and the supported 6.7.246. The two reasons I gave before are IMNHO the reasons to go to 6.7.246.

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Thank you. I have no plans on going to jellybean. ICS will be the last because I rely too heavily on flash. I'm not worried about the update path.
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Thank you. I have no plans on going to jellybean. ICS will be the last because I rely too heavily on flash. I'm not worried about the update path.
Here's my unasked for recommendation to you ... make your decision based on time.

If you plan to dump your Bionic in the next three months ... choose either option.

If you plan on using your Bionic six months from now ... get back on the OTA path.

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Here's my unasked for recommendation to you ... make your decision based on time.

If you plan to dump your Bionic in the next three months ... choose either option.

If you plan on using your Bionic six months from now ... get back on the OTA path.

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I have more than one bionic for a reason. I plan on keeping them till they croak for good. I'm tiring of dumping money into devices. I would still have my droid x if it was a 4g phone.
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I have more than one bionic for a reason. I plan on keeping them till they croak for good. I'm tiring of dumping money into devices. I would still have my droid x if it was a 4g phone.
I still have my Droid X ... root-ed ... and it has many more limitations then not supporting 4G. It is very slow.

I suggest your strategy for maintaining this stuff with the lest hassle for the longest time is to get back on the OTA path and stay there. If you had stayed there under 5.9.905 the 6.7.246 upgrade would have been a noticeable update but totally pleasant.

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I still have my Droid X ... root-ed ... and it has many more limitations then not supporting 4G. It is very slow.

I suggest your strategy for maintaining this stuff with the lest hassle for the longest time is to get back on the OTA path and stay there. If you had stayed there under 5.9.905 the 6.7.246 upgrade would have been a noticeable update but totally pleasant.

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Isn't it you that the upgrade screwed your droid x? Remember me? I'm that guy as well. I do not want to go to an upgrade without a little education first. That is why I created this thread. Every major update I have had on past android phones has made them buggy. and hosed my droid x. I just went through 3 bionic in one week through Verizon to get a good one and don't want to screw it up and start the headaches all over again.

So again, this thread is here for those that wish to enlighten me about and "Significant" differences between 232 and 246.

I can make a more informed decision whether or not to risk going through an irreversible upgrade.
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To answer your question (as I leave) ... no I am the person who lost root when I installed the final Droid X OTA and it took six months before there was a method to root.

Everything else on the Droid X is operating ... no 4G ... very slow ... lower quality display ... lots of new apps that don't support something as old as the Droid X ...

Since you asked the question here I ASSUME you are not root-ed.

On with your poll.

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To answer your question (as I leave) ... no I am the person who lost root when I installed the final Droid X OTA and it took six months before there was a method to root.

Everything else on the Droid X is operating ... no 4G ... very slow ... lower quality display ... lots of new apps that don't support something as old as the Droid X ...

Since you asked the question here I ASSUME you are not root-ed.

On with your poll.

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I'm rooted running 232. Things seem fine on this phone. I figured I could maybe stay on 232 if there are no significant differences between 232 and 246.

As far as my old droid x, spees wasn't that big of an issue, other than the lack of 4g internet speeds. Yeah, I, everyone enjoys speed, just not enough to plop down over 500 bucks. I try to be happy with what I have and not upgrade if it's not necessary.

Sorry that we got our wires crossed.
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Is that OTA Rootable?
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I'm rooted running 232. Things seem fine on this phone. I figured I could maybe stay on 232 if there are no significant differences between 232 and 246.

As far as my old droid x, spees wasn't that big of an issue, other than the lack of 4g internet speeds. Yeah, I, everyone enjoys speed, just not enough to plop down over 500 bucks. I try to be happy with what I have and not upgrade if it's not necessary.

Sorry that we got our wires crossed.
Sincs you are root-ed I think you will get better answers to your questions in ... Bionic - All Things Root - Android Forums. (Sorry I didn't ask sooner ... I thought you were talking about staying with the stock versions.

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@ Thom. I assume you have to use HoB?

EDIT Nvm got it mixed up. Time to root
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EDIT Nvm got it mixed up. Time to root
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I just got razrs edge and HoB mixed up
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Hey Thom where in ICS is the option to allow unknown sources?

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Screw it. I just fxz'd back to 905 and let it settle. Did a fdr and let it settle. The ota is downloading. Hope it doesn't screw me. (Shruggs) I still have one left on ginger bread that will stay that way for the time being (Till firefox is outdated).
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Good choice. I'll never understand why you like the older webtop so much better. It was sooooo slow. Made me feel like the lapdock was a worthless purchase. Using the full Firefox browser, I'd type something like I'm doing right now and then sit back and wait 30 seconds for the lapdock to finish filling in the sentence I just typed. Webtop 3.0 is a beautiful thing.
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Good choice. I'll never understand why you like the older webtop so much better. It was sooooo slow. Made me feel like the lapdock was a worthless purchase. Using the full Firefox browser, I'd type something like I'm doing right now and then sit back and wait 30 seconds for the lapdock to finish filling in the sentence I just typed. Webtop 3.0 is a beautiful thing.
Because I do not have an home internet connection and the Firefox browser is the closest thing to legal free tethering. There's somethings a mobile based browser just cannot do. Besides, I did like the layout better.
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Well, all seems well. headphone jack tested good, Bluetooth, GPS, navigation and all apps are functional, other than resco radio. Yes, the dolphin browser is much smoother with .246

So there is somewhat of a difference in a positive way.

Phone is all rooted, set up and working (Knock on wood).
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Can you please post your thoughts on whether this was worth it in a few days? I am in your same situation (232 leak), which is running very well, and plan on getting a new phone within 6 months or so. I'd hate to do the ICS OTA and end up with my old Bionic (laggy, poor battery life, etc.). The only thing I'm missing currently is Bluetooth connection to my car head unit, and I'm not sure that would even be fixed by ICS OTA.
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Can you please post your thoughts on whether this was worth it in a few days? I am in your same situation (232 leak), which is running very well, and plan on getting a new phone within 6 months or so. I'd hate to do the ICS OTA and end up with my old Bionic (laggy, poor battery life, etc.). The only thing I'm missing currently is Bluetooth connection to my car head unit, and I'm not sure that would even be fixed by ICS OTA.
I'll probably catch some flack for this. But in my opinion I haven't seen a real difference other than it runs a tad smoother.

I'm a risk taker and decided to just go for it.

I'll put it this way, then you decide.

I have two bionics. one is under warranty and the other is not (Bought from eBay). I will not update the phone that is NOT under warranty! Like yourself, .232 seems just fine.

I only took the official update on the warranty phone. If the bionic I just did the update on was not under warranty, I would not have taken the update and stayed on 232. That said, that is just my opinion, and I'm very obsessive about my phone.

The update I did did turn out fine.

Should you decide to do the update, you could follow the steps I took if you wish.

1st back up anything you want to keep from the internal memory before you do anything.

Pull the SD card out and put one in that has nothing on it. (Or just leave it out if you don't have a spare SD card.

I fxz'd back to 905 and let the phone settle for atleast 10 to 15 minutes.

Next, do a factory reset and let the phone settle for another 10 minutes.

Download and install the update, leaving it alone till it's done.

Let the phone settle for another 15 minutes and do a factory reset.

After the factory reset, let the phone settle for another 15 minutes.

Shut it down and insert your SD card (And do a battery pull while you're at it).

Power it up and start adding your apps and setting it up how you like.

I know it sounds like a bit much, but that is the route I took to have an ultra clean install.
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When the Motorola Droid Bionic was first announced at CES 2011, it featured a 4.3-inch qHD display, NVIDIA Tegra 2 dual-core processor clocked at 1GHz, and support for Verizon's 4G LTE high-speed network. After the handset was delayed, Motorola... Read More



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