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Old September 1st, 2013, 10:01 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I upgraded from the Droid Razr MAXX HD, which lasted two days solid with moderate use, to the Droid MAXX. The Verizon representative, as well as threads in this forum, indicated that the battery life was better than the Razr MAXX HD.

However, I have noticed the opposite, and last night, I even tried putting the phone in Airplane Mode, and it lost 10% of battery, whereas the Razr MAXX HD would loose 1 to 2% over a 7 hour period in Airplane Mode.

My question is if you think this is because of a rouge application, is there something wrong, or is this normal?
I can't say for sure - everyone uses their phone differently. I will say there was one night when my phone charger wasn't plugged in right and I woke up to find that the battery percentage was down about 5 or 6 percent.

Again, that's just anecdotal, but maybe you do have an app that's using power.

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OK, well, twice tonight I noticed the battery gage increase the available battery life. In fact, you can see from the screenshot that battery life increased without any charging whatsoever! Check out the image below, and you can see the increases without any indication of charging! Is this normal?

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OK, well, twice tonight I noticed the battery gage increase the available battery life. In fact, you can see from the screenshot that battery life increased without any charging whatsoever! Check out the image below, and you can see the increases without any indication of charging! Is this normal?

Yes, it is. The battery saver starts shutting down non-essential functions as the battery gets low. Both instances were in the yellow or red area of battery strength. When a non-essential app or service is shut down it will show a longer battery life remaining.
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After a day of very light use. Checking a few emails here and there's about it.
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The bitter end of my first full charge . my normal use is pretty strong, lots of audio streaming via Bluetooth that would cause frequent battery changes on my gNex. Plenty of emails and social media. Fair number of call minutes.

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Why is Android OS consistently taking up 25%-30% of my battery? Anyone else experiencing this type of use from Android OS?

I'm assuming that Android OS is simply 4.2.2 running in the background.
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I'm assuming that Android OS is simply 4.2.2 running in the background.
Its all relative. Use more screen and it will show display with higher percentage.

In absence of anything else I guess it uses the most.
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Why is Android OS consistently taking up 25%-30% of my battery? Anyone else experiencing this type of use from Android OS?

I'm assuming that Android OS is simply 4.2.2 running in the background.
It's 53% of my battery. Background processes, apps that check for data in the background, etc. Use foreground apps more and they will have a higher percentage.
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I continue to just shake my head every time I look at my phone battery. I'm at 82% right now. I've been off charge since 7:30 this morning. Granted I've been on wifi most of the day.
My Gnex would be at 40% or below at this time of the day. I just can't explain how happy I am with my device.

I will NEVER go to another phone with less battery life than my Maxx. Hopefully this is the direction that all phones will go towards by the time I upgrade again and more options will be available.
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Yes, it is. The battery saver starts shutting down non-essential functions as the battery gets low. Both instances were in the yellow or red area of battery strength. When a non-essential app or service is shut down it will show a longer battery life remaining.
Not true. If you look at his screenshot, he has a little bump up in the green area as well. Also, mine has done this a few times and it was in the 90% battery range. Does anyone know why this happens? I'm really curious.
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Does the phone take a week or two to calibrate the battery?
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Not true. If you look at his screenshot, he has a little bump up in the green area as well. Also, mine has done this a few times and it was in the 90% battery range. Does anyone know why this happens? I'm really curious.
Thanks for mentioning that. Today, about 30 minutes after removing from the charger, the battery indicated 96%. Then, the battery capacity increased back up to 99%. The battery chart / graph reflected this as well.

If it happens again tomorrow, I will post a screenshot. But glad I am not the only one that experienced that behavior.
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Thanks for mentioning that. Today, about 30 minutes after removing from the charger, the battery indicated 96%. Then, the battery capacity increased back up to 99%. The battery chart / graph reflected this as well.

If it happens again tomorrow, I will post a screenshot. But glad I am not the only one that experienced that behavior.
That can happen if you are trolling in forums. When you troll, you spout sh!t. The methane from that sh!t can be captured by the phone battery to give a temporary power boost. It's the new LithiumBS batteries that take advantage of it.

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Thanks for mentioning that. Today, about 30 minutes after removing from the charger, the battery indicated 96%. Then, the battery capacity increased back up to 99%. The battery chart / graph reflected this as well.

If it happens again tomorrow, I will post a screenshot. But glad I am not the only one that experienced that behavior.
Yup, just happened to me again. Check it out. Battery went from 89% to 94%.
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Yup, just happened to me again. Check it out. Battery went from 89% to 94%.
That's wild. I haven't seen that.
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I continue to try to kill this phone in a day, it just lives. When and IF root ever comes, there is no need to ROM. When I ROM'd in the past it was because I like the tweaks that come with the ROM's. I like the ability to have on/off switches in my drop down shade. I haven't turned anything off EVER with my Maxx.

My GPS always runs and you know what? My phone and apps run better because of it. I'm wondering if that's some of the problem with my previous phones, they would have run better if I would have been able to leave on the GPS and location services.

If you do not have a Maxx and you're on the fence, let battery life and functionality be what pushes you over the edge. Go get one, and live life as you thought life should be lived with a smartphone.
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What CBF said. I'm having a hard time adjusting to NOT being tied down to the charger. It's weird. But good.
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Last time I charged my phone was Friday! Granted I turn it off when I go to bed. I'm at 6% battery left at 2days 21hours on battery. I have taken pictures, videos, played music, bunch of texting, checking news multiple times a day, weather and watched a bunch of youtube on it over the past few days. Love this phone!!
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Monday was the first full day with my new Maxx. Pulled it off the charger around 8 AM and plugged it in again well after midnight. About half 4G and half WiFi, mixed use with some web surfing, reading, texting in Hangouts, played Ingress on my lunch break, lots of tweaking the settings, etc. When I finally went to bed it was at 32% after 17+ hours. Most amazing to me is that includes over 7 hours of screen-on time! Sure blows the Bionic out of the water, even with its extended battery!





Today seems to be going even better -- 5 hours off the charger and it's still at 90%, even after playing a few games of Riptide GP. I think I'm in love.
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Sadly, I feel like I got some kind of busted MAXX. I would drain about 5% per hour, as opposed to everyone else who has monstrous results. No screenshots, but I just did a FDR, so I'm hoping that fixes it. I would still get about a full day's use, but not even close to two days.

Come on factory reset!
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You could have tried running in Safe Mode first. That would disable all the apps you added without uninstalling them. If it solved the problem then you would know to go looking for the renegade app.

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Ok, today I set out to bring the Maxx battery to its knees. I ran iheart radio all day listening to sports radio, navigated some, plus all the usual stuff. With my Gnex this would have generated 4 it 5 battery changes with extended batteries.

I am reporting the following.....

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k36/pcraines/Screenshot_2013-09-10-19-45-01_zpsb84c684f.png

I now fear no day for battery use.
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Although it's second to none, I doubt I can achieve the 'upto 25 day' standby time figure quoted by verizon, or the 19.5 hour talk time figure reported by a review site.

In a 3-4 bar service area, if I turn off lte/data/sync, wifi, bluetooth, set battery saver to on, display timeout 15 seconds, logging 2hrs of talk time, 0 texts and <5min screen time resulted in a 25% battery drop over 18 hours.

When not using the phone at all (just cell radio standby) I seem to lose 1% per hour. That would yield 4-5 days of standby, nowhere near the claimed 25 days.

I will have try again after turning off google voice listener and the camera gesture app.

I know li-ion batteries do not require conditioning or full discharge, but out of habit I try to run them down before charging. This is the first Android phone that I've owned that is not a linear power drop. I've gone from 6% power to 1% with just the screen on low (the meter never read 5%, 4%, 3%, or 2%).

What I really would like to see is a super battery mode which completely disables the heavy loads (android apps, data, screen), and operates as a voice-only phone, with a monochrome display or the power-saving notification display. Even an phone that could switch to e-ink like Amazon's original kindle. Some old Motorola basic flip phones could do 15-20 days of standby with a 700-900mah battery. Thus, 60 days of standby could be achievable with this 3500mah.

QUESTION for the forum: does anyone know of an app or a way to enable data only when I open an email account and select manual sync, then disable data a short time later?
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Although it's second to none, I doubt I can achieve the 'upto 25 day' standby time figure quoted by verizon, or the 19.5 hour talk time figure reported by a review site.

In a 3-4 bar service area, if I turn off lte/data/sync, wifi, bluetooth, set battery saver to on, display timeout 15 seconds, logging 2hrs of talk time, 0 texts and <5min screen time resulted in a 25% battery drop over 18 hours.

When not using the phone at all (just cell radio standby) I seem to lose 1% per hour. That would yield 4-5 days of standby, nowhere near the claimed 25 days.

I will have try again after turning off google voice listener and the camera gesture app.

I know li-ion batteries do not require conditioning or full discharge, but out of habit I try to run them down before charging. This is the first Android phone that I've owned that is not a linear power drop. I've gone from 6% power to 1% with just the screen on low (the meter never read 5%, 4%, 3%, or 2%).

What I really would like to see is a super battery mode which completely disables the heavy loads (android apps, data, screen), and operates as a voice-only phone, with a monochrome display or the power-saving notification display. Even an phone that could switch to e-ink like Amazon's original kindle. Some old Motorola basic flip phones could do 15-20 days of standby with a 700-900mah battery. Thus, 60 days of standby could be achievable with this 3500mah.

QUESTION for the forum: does anyone know of an app or a way to enable data only when I open an email account and select manual sync, then disable data a short time later?
Is this for pure experimentation purposes only or do you live in the woods away from electricity for long periods of time?

I'm not trying to be flippant nor am I trying to start a flame war. I'm seriously wondering why you would like to have 60 days without a charge. I can see wanting a couple of days without a charge because for some reason you left your charger at home and don't have access to one as you are away for a weekend. If you want standby, get a watch. Their batteries last for years. Standby is just that, the phone doing nothing but standing by keeping a signal in the event that someone MAY call and telling the time. I would say that $10/month for a flip phone whose sole purpose is to standby in the event that you MAY need it for 60 days without a charge would be a more reasonable thing to do than to kill off everything on your phone and make it a dumbphone.
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Is this for pure experimentation purposes only or do you live in the woods away from electricity for long periods of time?
the 60 day thing just comparing how the battery capacity has grown to 4-5x what they were in the dumb phone era.

I want to see how I can achieve the 25 day standby that Motorola advertises, or more importantly the 4% battery drain per day on standby that this equates to.

My battery drains uses approx 1% per hour, so 24% in a day with no bluetooth/wifi/data off and no talk or screen time. Motorola tested it to only drain 4% a day on standby, so there is an issue.
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the 60 day thing just comparing how the battery capacity has grown to 4-5x what they were in the dumb phone era.

I want to see how I can achieve the 25 day standby that Motorola advertises, or more importantly the 4% battery drain per day on standby that this equates to.

My battery drains uses approx 1% per hour, so 24% in a day with no bluetooth/wifi/data off and no talk or screen time. Motorola tested it to only drain 4% a day on standby, so there is an issue.
i could see it lasting 25 days in airplane mode but not with data connections.
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I skipped the charger last night to see how far it would go. Pretty impressive I'd say for mixed use with 8+ hours screen time:







Seems to be getting better with each charge!
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i could see it lasting 25 days in airplane mode but not with data connections.
Exactly. Motorola & Verizon advertise "25 days in standby time" which would means at minimum the cell radio on (ready to receive calls or text messages).
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Exactly. Motorola & Verizon advertise "25 days in standby time" which would means at minimum the cell radio on (ready to receive calls or text messages).
At perfect cell conditions - the phone in a lab environment. They all do it the same way. They probably also turn off active notifications, data sync and any data connections, etc.

I'll take 1% per hour real life. That's better than just about any other android or ios phone that I can buy today.
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At perfect cell conditions - the phone in a lab environment. They all do it the same way. They probably also turn off active notifications, data sync and any data connections, etc.

I'll take 1% per hour real life. That's better than just about any other android or ios phone that I can buy today.
I tested turning off active notifications, ok google now listener, and the camera shake-to-activate feature. Huge difference!! Rather than dropping 1% per hour, my battery did not drop from 100 to 99% until 12 hours of standby!

It seems that the combination of those 3 apps is burning as much as 20% of the 3500mah battery per day.
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I tested turning off active notifications, ok google now listener, and the camera shake-to-activate feature. Huge difference!! Rather than dropping 1% per hour, my battery did not drop from 100 to 99% until 12 hours of standby!
Yes, I was pretty sure that they tested standby using the phone in its least possible usefulness as a smartphone.

I am thinking about disabling the "OK Google Now" touchless control because it's something I will rarely use anyway; the idea of talking to my phone like that just seems silly to me. However, I find active notifications to be too valuable to disable. It's one of the things I like best about the phone.
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This was my first full discharge after getting the phone. I would call it moderate usage (my GNex would have been dead three times over at this same usage level).

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I tested turning off active notifications, ok google now listener, and the camera shake-to-activate feature. Huge difference!! Rather than dropping 1% per hour, my battery did not drop from 100 to 99% until 12 hours of standby!

It seems that the combination of those 3 apps is burning as much as 20% of the 3500mah battery per day.
Can you access the camera from the lock-screen? Or is teh twist feature the only way to do it?
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Can you access the camera from the lock-screen? Or is teh twist feature the only way to do it?
Yes, you can. Hit the power button and swipe from the right edge to the left and you open the camera.
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Yes, you can. Hit the power button and swipe from the right edge to the left and you open the camera.
Nice, that makes turning off the wrist flick deal a lot easier.
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I tested turning off active notifications, ok google now listener, and the camera shake-to-activate feature. Huge difference!! Rather than dropping 1% per hour, my battery did not drop from 100 to 99% until 12 hours of standby!

It seems that the combination of those 3 apps is burning as much as 20% of the 3500mah battery per day.
So in other words you turned off the three unique software features that are the only reasons to have the innovative x8 chip set, which is the only thing that makes the Moto X/Mini/Ultra/Maxx an interesting device.

NO THANKS, I'm quite satisfied with the amazing two full days of normal usage I can get with the Maxx without having to disable any of the features that make my SmartPhone you know, smart.

Even with the 1% drain per hour you mentioned that's 100 hours of standby...over four full days. I'm curious what your situation is where you're in need of smartphone while away from any sort of car charger, computer usb port, or an electrical outlet.

I get it, battery life is a sore spot for many phones, but the Maxx is a home run with a thin form factor, exciting new features, and a battery life that means normal people can go a full two days without worrying about using their phone.

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I just loaded an app from Xiam Technologies Limited, a Qualcomm company. The app is "Snapdragon Battery Guru" and it is worth reading about, especially if you are not satisfied with your battery life. As I have said before, mine is excellent so this is just an experiment for me. The app is compatible with the Maxx family since Qualcomm makes the Snapdragon processor in out phones. I'll let you know how it works, it takes three or four days to learn your habits on the phone, and then apparently does its thing behind the scenes. Free and worth a try if you are not satisfied with your battery life. The name of the app was posted on another forum.
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So in other words you turned off the three unique software features that are the only reasons to have the innovative x8 chip set, which is the only thing that makes the Moto X/Mini/Ultra/Maxx an interesting device.
True, I turned them off to test why I was draining 24% a day with no data, screen activity, or phone calls. When I did so it drained 2-3% per day. I wanted to test Motorola's claim of upto 25 days battery life on standby. I rarely can go a day without my phone so I didn't yet get to test turning them back on one at a time.

If it's determined that one specific app, such as the voice listener can be turned off and in return I'd get two more hours of full brightness netflix playback on top of the already incredible battery life, I'll be doing just that!

I know this isn't needed either, but I put Juice Defender (paid version) on as an experiment. I only do manual syncs, no social media. Thus far it's great. I like that it can auto enable data whenever I enter certain pre-specified application then it shuts it right off. I don't know if I'm really saving anything: is an available (totally dormant) data connection use any more power than just a cellular signal?

I also disabled all the Verizon / Motorola tracking phone home services using Titanium Backup. I find it somewhat disturbing that whenever people on the Motorla forum report an issue, the motorola reps say to private message them their IMEI #, and they will look through their history to see will what is happening. Some may find that to be a great feature, but I would rather enable that if needed rather than have it on by default.
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I did it! I killed my battery in just under 10 hours! Here's how. I left the screen on for 3 hours and 20 minutes with Waze running the entire time. I streamed Pandora for the entire time and I used Mobile Hotspot for 2 1/2 hours with 2 iPad's and a Chromebook streaming. It took a lot but I did it!

I am curious though, why isn't the Mobile Hotspot showing up in my battery use?







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Go play Ingress for eight hours... that'll do it, too
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Any dedicated L8 player has a brick sized external battery pack and a charging cable strapped to their phone while playing...

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Do you guys think this looks about right?

I'm not a power user AT ALL. Pretty much moderate at best. My screen time was only a bit over 3 hours.

I'm thinking this is terrible compared to whate you're all getting.

Any ideas?
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Do you guys think this looks about right?

I'm not a power user AT ALL. Pretty much moderate at best. My screen time was only a bit over 3 hours.

I'm thinking this is terrible compared to whate you're all getting.

Any ideas?
32 hours is about my tendency when I'm on LTE rather than wifi. If I'm on wifi all day I get more like 42 to 48 hours.

The more you have apps that fetch data, the more battery you'll use. I a, thinking about ditching touchless controls. I never use them. I'd just turn them on before I drive somewhere. (That would be a great feature for the assist app, actually.)
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Any way to determine which apps may be hogging power?

Like an app or something? I have about a week or so until my 14 day window comes up.

It's weird having an issue with over 24 hours on a charge but if I paid for this battery, I wanna make sure it's right. I don't do any gaming, really only some Pandora/Google Music and browsing etc.

Something definitely doesn't feel right.
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Any way to determine which apps may be hogging power?

Like an app or something? I have about a week or so until my 14 day window comes up.

It's weird having an issue with over 24 hours on a charge but if I paid for this battery, I wanna make sure it's right. I don't do any gaming, really only some Pandora/Google Music and browsing etc.

Something definitely doesn't feel right.
Like I said, you're seeing what I'm seeing. You're trending out to 32 hours of battery life with about 4 hours screen on time. That's pretty much what I see.

I don't think there is anything wrong. Motorola says 48 hours moderate battery life, but they don't define moderate. I suspect full time wifi connectivity is part of their definition.

I've read online that touchless controls and active notifications take some battery. Try turning those off (unless they are critical.)

Here's the thing: I need a phone that I *know* will get me from unplug in the morning to plug back in at bedtime. This is the only smartphone I've had where I know I can do that without changing the way I want and need to use the phone. If you need more than that, maybe you need a phone like the Galaxy S4 with a replaceable battery rather than the Maxx?

To answer your question, there are apps that show you what may be causing wakelocks on your phone. These tend to be the things that affect battery life. Mi hoping that others who know about the good ones can suggest some here.
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Actually, it's 26 hours with 3 hours of screen.
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Almost 27 hrs with 15% left = almost 32 hrs
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Actually, it's 26 hours with 3 hours of screen.
Right, you divide the amount of time you've used the phone by the percent time used (so, 26 hours divided by .85) to get the estimated full battery capacity. I've used my phone about 15 hours right now, it's at 61% left, so about 38 hours capacity estimated.
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I got ya. My point is that I've really not used the phone as "heavily" as many users have and still I'm getting lower range battery life.

It just seems like there's something off.
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with light to moderate usage i get 3 days on a full charge. i dont usually do this, but its nice to know i can.
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