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Old August 26th, 2013, 06:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone heard anything about an OEM car dock for the Droid Maxx yet?

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After searching XDA's forums, found one on Verizon's site. Had to search for Griffin Car Dock if anyone else is having problems with it not showing.
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Its under "mounts" for the maxx accessories on vzw's page. Mine should be at home waiting for me. Now i just need my maxx...
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I received mine in the mail today. I haven't had time to try it yet, and won't until tomorrow or Wednesday. It seems fine - fits with the bumper case.
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I found that the bumper case doesn't let the phone totally plug into the car dock. Also, have you noticed that the car dock has no port for the camera to peek through? I fix that problem on mine really easy.
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Anyone have any photos of the car dock mode? I won't have my Maxx until tomorrow and all I can do is start at the empty dock sitting on the table beside me that I've had since Monday.
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I found that the bumper case doesn't let the phone totally plug into the car dock. Also, have you noticed that the car dock has no port for the camera to peek through? I fix that problem on mine really easy.
It works fine with my bumper case. I noticed a hole in the back, and assumed it was for a camera, but I couldn't imagine using the camera while I'm driving anyway. It's not something I need.
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So I have been using the Verizon-supplied (and branded) car dock for my Maxx, the dock version that sticks to the windshield. I don't have a case on my Maxx.

Pro:
  • Nice long gooseneck lets me get the phone positioned where I want, and significantly closer to me than any previous one.
  • It's a generic mount, so I won't have to pack it away when I get my next phone, as I have for my (beautiful) OG Droid and Samsung Galaxy Nexus mounts.

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  • The gooseneck is floppy unless you rest it or the phone on the dashboard.
  • The right side grip covers the "Volume down" button -- annoying when navigating if the sound is too loud.
  • Putting it on its side for "landscape" view (nice for navigation) doesn't feel secure. The phone is supported off-center at the bottom, and there's nothing on the unsupported end. Seems like it could fall out. I'm not going to use it in that orientation.

Another pro:
  • I couldn't find anything better on Amazon or elsewhere, so maybe we're stuck with it.
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Bummer on the landscape mode thing. That's how I currently have my Rezound mounted in my truck:


I'll probably go ahead and get one, but keep an eye out to see if anything better comes out. I use Waze and Torque in my truck all the time, so I really don't want to be without a nice car dock.
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It works fine with my bumper case. I noticed a hole in the back, and assumed it was for a camera, but I couldn't imagine using the camera while I'm driving anyway. It's not something I need.
There are two holes in the back, but, obviously, they are not lined up with the camera. They are for the background noise canceling microphones - which makes sense.

I used it on a one hour drive today. It's fine for me. I just want something so that I can interact with the phone instead of having it in my pocket. The Assist driving option works fine - it offers to read text messages to me if I say the word "listen", and it works fine.

It works better if you hold the phone portrait so that when the active notifications are on, you can see the time, etc, at a glance.

By the way, I do not have the gooseneck one described by Kevin-B - it's the Griffin one, on the VZW web site.
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Con:[*]The gooseneck is floppy unless you rest it or the phone on the dashboard.

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  • I couldn't find anything better on Amazon or elsewhere, so maybe we're stuck with it.
I'm using a rather long arm mount in our Chevy volt. It is a Garmin mount that i attached the bionic navigation dock to. I used some adhesive backed foam padding to support the dock where it rests on the dash so it doesn't vibrate.

In our Chrysler 300, I installed a proclip dash mount with a ball adapter. I will be attaching the Griffin vehicle dock to it.
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Default Got mine yesterday

I got the Griffin mount off the Verizon website and I'm not all that impressed. It has a plug to charge while the phone is in it, but its really finicky trying to get it put in just right. Luckily, its a Maxx so it shouldn't need much charging anyways. Also, my phone, without any type of case on it, seems to move around in the dock. It'll do for now, but I can say that I like it that much.
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Observation of Droid Maxx in Navigation Mode.

!. I do not need or want to play music thru the phone while in the car. I have a very good satellite radio, CD player, ets. Primarily interested in navigaton.

2. I'm tired of buying a new dock and whole set of peripherals every time I get a new phone. That is why I spent a little extra money on the TYLT VU wireless charger. It also doubles as a desk dock for any wireless charging phone at a very comfortable 45 deg. angle.

3. My Bionic car dock had a ball joint on the back that fit my old Garmin bean bag dash mount and is easily switched from car to car. I purchased an Aduro U Grip Plus mount that has the ball joint and also fits my old Garmin bean bag mount. It will also fit any 5" phone. Inexpensive, nothing fancy. My lighted car charger from the Bionic car mount works fine on the Maxx and I did not notice any excessive heat build up, it was a cool day and the climate control was on.

4. Navigation app. (free from Google) still works great. I go to maps and enter destinatons I want to go to, physically or by voice, and star them. Then when I go to Navigation they are all there and I just tap and the map pops up with the little blue "start" arrow in the lower right. Tap it and you are on your way. I used it today to find an out of the way Drs. office my wife needed to go to. It took us there flawlessly. One point is that on two occasions on the way it stopped but I noticed the little blue arrow popped up in the lower left of the screen and when I tapped it, it caught up and on the way again. No real problem. Voice directions were loud and clear and I actually turned the volume down a little.

5. On Sept. 20th we are going to Columbus OH for a football game. All of the locations that I starred the last two years are still there on Google Maps. All I have to do is tap and go.

I upgrade about every two years and I want peripherals that are multitaskers. I am tired of spending $80 - $100 every two years because the form factor of the phones changes slightly. My Aduro car dock works in landscape or portrait and I did not need a new car charger/power cable. I am certain Assist would have read any texts to me and played music if I desired. No one texted me but I did receive an email that I read later.

IMHO this phone is outstanding. There may be a few little bugs that need fixing in the next update but overall I am extremely happy. This device is a giant step up from my DX and Bionic which were also excellent phones/mini computers. I am sure I made the right choice.
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In our Chrysler 300, I installed a proclip dash mount with a ball adapter. I will be attaching the Griffin vehicle dock to it.
That's my plan, as well. After I took the pic above, I got a Proclip and a better dock. It's rock-solid. I love Proclips, they aren't cheap, but they are so much better than trying to use suction cups on the windshield or on those discs on the dash.
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That's my plan, as well. After I took the pic above, I got a Proclip and a better dock. It's rock-solid. I love Proclips, they aren't cheap, but they are so much better than trying to use suction cups on the windshield or on those discs on the dash.
Nice! Its unfortunate the proclip for the volt mounts so low on the center console. Makes it too impractical to use for navigation. Now that google maps is so messed up with navigation, i regret not waiting for a volt with nav. Oh well. Good thing its a lease.
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New problem. Proclip only has a 17mm ball available. the Griffin mount appears to be using a 15mm ball (I don't have my calipers available, so this is a rough estimate using a ruler). I'm not finding anything close in the more usual places. I did find some 15mm and 19/32" balls on mcmaster-carr, but both are hardened steel and would be difficult to drill in order to mount it. Why would anyone avoid the most common ball sizes given the flexibility a standard size would provide.
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There are two holes in the back, but, obviously, they are not lined up with the camera. They are for the background noise canceling microphones - which makes sense.

I used it on a one hour drive today. It's fine for me. I just want something so that I can interact with the phone instead of having it in my pocket. The Assist driving option works fine - it offers to read text messages to me if I say the word "listen", and it works fine.

It works better if you hold the phone portrait so that when the active notifications are on, you can see the time, etc, at a glance.

By the way, I do not have the gooseneck one described by Kevin-B - it's the Griffin one, on the VZW web site.
Are you saying that the active notifications do not change position or do not display when in landscape mode?
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Are you saying that the active notifications do not change position or do not display when in landscape mode?
They stay portrait.
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It works fine with my bumper case. I noticed a hole in the back, and assumed it was for a camera, but I couldn't imagine using the camera while I'm driving anyway. It's not something I need.
I was wrong about the bumper case. If you use the bumper case, the phone will still fit in the car dock, but the USB connector at the bottom is not long enough to engage and the phone will not charge, even if you plug the car dock into power.

Apparently the Maxx has magnet sensors that are used to engage car dock and desk dock modes. So, a USB connection is not required to start the car dock mode - just a magnet (apparently in the car dock) in the right place.
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They stay portrait.
Did you try it with Nova Launcher Prime? Standalone it supports the display of the dropdown in landscape mode. Is this also true in a dock?

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I use the stock launcher. But I'm talking about active notifications - the occasional "pulsing" of the clock and any notifications. Does that go landscape as well with nova launcher?
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Try the free version of Nova. It seems to me that EVERYTHING can be allowed to go landscape. The paid version ($4) has some added features that you'll like but I believe this one is in both versions.

These alternate launchers in the past were all rather "unfinished" in my opinion. I happened onto Nova after a recommendation from some others here and it is EXACTLY what I want.

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New problem. Proclip only has a 17mm ball available. the Griffin mount appears to be using a 15mm ball (I don't have my calipers available, so this is a rough estimate using a ruler). I'm not finding anything close in the more usual places. I did find some 15mm and 19/32" balls on mcmaster-carr, but both are hardened steel and would be difficult to drill in order to mount it. Why would anyone avoid the most common ball sizes given the flexibility a standard size would provide.
Dang, that's not good to hear. Thanks for the heads-up, though.
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Dang, that's not good to hear. Thanks for the heads-up, though.
I measured with my calipers and its 0.579 inches or 14.75mm. I found a potential option last night:

1/4" POST WITH 1/4"-20 THREADED HOLE STST

Its a 9/16" ball which puts it at 0.5625 inches. Might work if it can clamp down, but its also made of rubber which can result in two possible problems. Given the smaller size, if the rubber deflects enough, it may be hard to clamp down with enough pressure. Secondly, it may be subject to a small amount of vibration is the rubber can move slightly. Depends on the durometer value of that particular rubber. On the plus side, its likely more grippy than the typical plastics used for this type of thing.

If I get a chance, I'm gonna try and hit up some craft stores this weekend to see if I run into anything I can use. One option might be to somehow rig the Proclip ball to a lathe and turn it down. I don't have access to a lathe right now, but I've been thinking of crude ways to accomplish this with reasonable accuracy in a drill press.
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Nice! Its unfortunate the proclip for the volt mounts so low on the center console. Makes it too impractical to use for navigation. Now that google maps is so messed up with navigation, i regret not waiting for a volt with nav. Oh well. Good thing its a lease.
What do you mean by "messed up with navigation"? Just curious. Also, does your Volt have a Chevy MyLink Radio as my Spark does? If so, get the software updated and buy the $50 Bringo app to put your phone's navigation on the radio's LCD screen. I really need to get off my butt and get the software update. Sucks that you have to go to the dealership to do so.
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What do you mean by "messed up with navigation"? Just curious. Also, does your Volt have a Chevy MyLink Radio as my Spark does? If so, get the software updated and buy the $50 Bringo app to put your phone's navigation on the radio's LCD screen. I really need to get off my butt and get the software update. Sucks that you have to go to the dealership to do so.
The old version of maps on the Bionic functioned much more like an actual navigation device, making it easy to use. The new maps' is not as easy to use and also doesn't appear to have a way to go into a bird's eye view without setting a destination. There is no quick way to navigate to my contacts. Perhaps it works okay with google now, but on the bionic, it was a battery killer for me. Ultimately, I can use OnStar as it comes free with the Volt for three years, but there is a lot of value to me in being able to see when a street is coming up, even if I'm not navigating somewhere.

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the iBolt docks are pretty good. There is a universal one but not one that makes the new Moto phones enter dock mode. Maybe they will release one soon. They fit your phone with any case and are very secure.
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Thanks MrBigFeathers. I've just looked at the iBolt line, and they show a lot of landscape-view phones. Has anyone tried it specifically on this phone and can verify which iBolt mount holds our Maxx the best? (Comments on Amazon don't address this phone, but do seem to complain about poor fit on other models.)
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Thanks MrBigFeathers. I've just looked at the iBolt line, and they show a lot of landscape-view phones. Has anyone tried it specifically on this phone and can verify which iBolt mount holds our Maxx the best? (Comments on Amazon don't address this phone, but do seem to complain about poor fit on other models.)
My buddy has the universal dock and has a Note 2. It is spring loaded I believe and adjusts to fit any phone. I didn't look super close but he opened the arms and put his Note in and the arms came together to hold the phone. It swivels so it works in portrait or landscape. It comes with connectors for Samsung or HTC to make the phone go into dock mode which wouldn't work for the new Moto phones unless they release a new cable or dock. But short of making the phone go into car mode it would work great with the Maxx. And if the Maxx will go into car mode anyway when it knows you are going fast enough to be driving that might not matter.

Might be worth a try, if not Amazon will let you return it. I would like to see if they release a new cable at least for the Motos or release a new dock with magnets in it for dock mode.

SO I can't say for sure since I don't have a Maxx yet but it held his Note 2 with a case fine and my Galaxy Nexus with a TPU case just fine.

It also has a suction mount that suctions to the dash not just a window. Which I really like as I hate having suction cups on my windshield.
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Carrying my iPad tonight, I placed my Maxx on the screen. Suddenly my phone asked me if I wanted to confirm that I'm driving since I loaded my phone into a car dock. At first it made me pause, but then I remembered that my iPad has a magnet in it.

Cool feature, but not something I will likely use.
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Carrying my iPad tonight, I placed my Maxx on the screen. Suddenly my phone asked me if I wanted to confirm that I'm driving since I loaded my phone into a car dock. At first it made me pause, but then I remembered that my iPad has a magnet in it.

Cool feature, but not something I will likely use.
I wasn't actually convinced Motorola used magnets again. I haven't seen them do this since the Droid X. I thought they might have used NFC to trigger it like the Xperia phones. However, I put a magnet up to me desk dock and found there was indeed a magnet on the left side of the dock at about halfway up the phone. Like the Droid X, each pole of the magnet initiates a different dock mode. This also means people can add their own magnets to whatever docks they want and have it launch the car dock mode. It should be noted that if you disable the motorola car dock, the desktop dock displays instead. But the driving part of assist still becomes active. It is likely that if you install a third part car dock app that can launch itself if it detects its in a car dock, it will launch it instead.
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Its a 9/16" ball which puts it at 0.5625 inches. Might work if it can clamp down, but its also made of rubber which can result in two possible problems.
I ordered a different ball adapter from Ram Mounts than what I posted that has a flange attached. It has 2 holes drilled and comes awfully close to the top and bottom holes on the Proclip mount face according to my measurement of the Proclip mount and a drawing of the Ram Mount I found on their site. Its about 0.088 inches off. That's probably too much to line up correctly, but its nothing a dremel can't fix. Looks like it may be delivered tomorrow so I'll report back about the ball size compatibility tomorrow evening.
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As promised, I'm reporting back on the Ram Mount Ball:

RAM 2 7/16" X 1 5/16" BASE W BALL

I've attached photos. The first shows the Ram Mount ball is indeed slightly smaller. I tried attaching the dock to it, but it would not clamp down hard enough on it. I didn't try turning the lock nut all the way, but I went as far as I was comfortable. My solution was to take a small adhesive furniture pad (maybe 1/16" thick?) and cut it down. I tried using a whole piece, but it didn't feel like the ball was deep enough. With the cut down piece, it felt much better. Someone could try to find something that works a bit better, but this seems fine. The screw holes don't line up center to center, but the Ram mount holes are actually kind of wide so you can actually use use the screws that come with the Proclip ball here. I don't think the screws come with just the mount, so you may need to source some if you just order the clip. I recommend something with a wider head. The screws I used could potentially sink into the hole itself. Some thin washer might work too. I left mine as is as it felt tight enough. I just avoided trying to screw it down really hard. I placed it all back in the car and it appears to work fine. The real test will be during the drive to and from work but I don't anticipate any problems at this point. Hopefully this helps others that are looking to use the Griffin Car Dock with a Proclip Mount.

As an aside, this ball provides greater range of tilt than the Proclip ball. The Proclip ball has a wide base that limited how far you can tilt the mount on the ball. I can actually aim this one at me.
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For anyone that cares, I just shot Proclip and email to see when they would have a custom mount available for the XT1080.

I'll keep you guys posted
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For anyone that cares, I just shot Proclip and email to see when they would have a custom mount available for the XT1080.

I'll keep you guys posted
I'd be much more interested in seeing a 15mm ball released by them. I sent that request last week and haven't heard anything yet.

I'll take this opportuity for an update as well. I'm not terribly thrilled with the previous solution I posted. I have a couple of drawer handles that have a 15mm ball on the end of it ordered. I'll update when I try it out. Its stainless steel and has the potential to get really hot, but it should be fine in my car as its darkly tinted and doesn't get too hot even on hot days.
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We will have to look into making a holder for the Motorola Droid Maxx.

Due to an overwhelming request, worldwide, to develop all different kinds of holders, we must prioritize.

Once we will have a holder available for your device, we will notify you via email.

However, we do have a series of 6 ProClip Universal holders which will accommodate a number of devices with or without cases/skins/extended batteries on them:

Universal Car Phone Mounts, Universal Phone Holders*-*ProClip USA

Each product page has the dimensions the holders will accommodate. Please take good measurements of your device with or without the case ,which will help you to select the best working ProClip Universal holder for your device with or without the case.

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We will have to look into making a holder for the Motorola Droid Maxx.

Due to an overwhelming request, worldwide, to develop all different kinds of holders, we must prioritize.

Once we will have a holder available for your device, we will notify you via email.

However, we do have a series of 6 ProClip Universal holders which will accommodate a number of devices with or without cases/skins/extended batteries on them:

Universal Car Phone Mounts, Universal Phone Holders*-*ProClip USA

Each product page has the dimensions the holders will accommodate. Please take good measurements of your device with or without the case ,which will help you to select the best working ProClip Universal holder for your device with or without the case.

Sincerely,

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That's a bummer. Why would anyone care to use a universal dock when there is one specifically made for the phone. Hopefully the new doird phones and the moto x kind of take off. Since Griffin is making all their car docks, it would help push proclip towards at least making the 15mm ball adapter. I think that would be a great way for them to address all 4 of these phones reasonably without having to come up with three different solutions.
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That's a bummer. Why would anyone care to use a universal dock when there is one specifically made for the phone. Hopefully the new doird phones and the moto x kind of take off. Since Griffin is making all their car docks, it would help push proclip towards at least making the 15mm ball adapter. I think that would be a great way for them to address all 4 of these phones reasonably without having to come up with three different solutions.

Thinking about ordering a kenu airframe instead...

It claims to fit up to a 4.8inch screen WITH a case. I imagine a naked Maxx should fit?

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Is anyone able to get the phone to charge or play music through the USB cable? I have everything plugged in and the phone docked and it's not showing the USB connection at all (no charging, music plays out of the phone speakers, etc). This completely defeats the purpose of a car dock. Anyone else have better luck that me?
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Is anyone able to get the phone to charge or play music through the USB cable? I have everything plugged in and the phone docked and it's not showing the USB connection at all (no charging, music plays out of the phone speakers, etc). This completely defeats the purpose of a car dock. Anyone else have better luck that me?
I went out and played with the car dock at lunch and was able to get it to start charging by pushing in the sides. However, even with the combined USB/audio cable from Motorola, I'm not getting any audio. Looks like I'll need to plug in the 3.5mm cable each time I dock it. Anyone else have a different experience?
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I went out and played with the car dock at lunch and was able to get it to start charging by pushing in the sides. However, even with the combined USB/audio cable from Motorola, I'm not getting any audio. Looks like I'll need to plug in the 3.5mm cable each time I dock it. Anyone else have a different experience?
There are only two wires going from the input to the output USB connecting inside the dock. With no data lines, no audio out from USB is possible through the dock.
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There are only two wires going from the input to the output USB connecting inside the dock. With no data lines, no audio out from USB is possible through the dock.
Shoot, wonder why they took a step backwards. That was one of the reasons I've loved Moto phones for the past few years is the ability to just dock it in the car and not need to connect the audio cable each time.

Are there any third party docks that output audio on the USB port?
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I never really thought about that much since I connect via Bluetooth. You might try plugging the cable into the phone directly and see if it works. I don't know if there is any additional circuitry in the older docks that accommodate this. If it does work, all you need is to find a dock that have working data pins. The other option is to try and add them yourself. It's possible that all you have to do with the Griffin dock is to solder the wires in. It's too bad this didn't come up before last night. I had my dock open and could have tried to take a closer look at this aspect.
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I went out and played with the car dock at lunch and was able to get it to start charging by pushing in the sides. However, even with the combined USB/audio cable from Motorola, I'm not getting any audio. Looks like I'll need to plug in the 3.5mm cable each time I dock it. Anyone else have a different experience?
If I'm not mistaken, they have it isolated to the audio jack because it is capable of sensing the headphones being plugged in, and then it automatically cancels the phone speakers while the cord is plugged in.
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If I'm not mistaken, they have it isolated to the audio jack because it is capable of sensing the headphones being plugged in, and then it automatically cancels the phone speakers while the cord is plugged in.
Yeah, in the past docks (Droid X through the Droid Razr Maxx HD), you just docked it and it routed all audio through the USB cable and through your speakers. The audio port is autosensing, so it does route everything to the cable once I plug it in, but it's an extra step that I've gotten used to not doing. I hate when companies go backwards.

I also tried plugging the cable directly into the phone, but that doesn't even charge. Which makes sense because the cable actually has a picture of a phone with a big X over it and then shows a dock with a circle around it. Must be wired for docks only somehow.
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It's a different company. Bought by Google, completely different management, and for good reason - the old Motorola was struggling more than HTC is now. It's probably better just to think of it as a new company.
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I also tried plugging the cable directly into the phone, but that doesn't even charge. Which makes sense because the cable actually has a picture of a phone with a big X over it and then shows a dock with a circle around it. Must be wired for docks only somehow.
I still have all my bionic stuff still out so o tried it last night as well. Did not work with just the split audio USB cable. Also tried plugging it into the bionic dock with the same cable. Still did not work. Just to make sure, I plugged in my bionic to the dock and I got output through the USB, but only on the left channel. I should have two more docks and one more cable somewhere to try. But I just moved in to my current home a month ago, so hopefully I can find it easily. It may still be in a box somewhere.
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RAM 2 7/16" X 1 5/16" BASE W BALL

I've attached photos. The first shows the Ram Mount ball is indeed slightly smaller. I tried attaching the dock to it, but it would not clamp down hard enough on it. I didn't try turning the lock nut all the way, but I went as far as I was comfortable. My solution was to take a small adhesive furniture pad (maybe 1/16" thick?) and cut it down. I tried using a whole piece, but it didn't feel like the ball was deep enough. With the cut down piece, it felt much better. Someone could try to find something that works a bit better, but this seems fine. The screw holes don't line up center to center, but the Ram mount holes are actually kind of wide so you can actually use use the screws that come with the Proclip ball here. I don't think the screws come with just the mount, so you may need to source some if you just order the clip. I recommend something with a wider head. The screws I used could potentially sink into the hole itself. Some thin washer might work too. I left mine as is as it felt tight enough. I just avoided trying to screw it down really hard. I placed it all back in the car and it appears to work fine. The real test will be during the drive to and from work but I don't anticipate any problems at this point. Hopefully this helps others that are looking to use the Griffin Car Dock with a Proclip Mount.

As an aside, this ball provides greater range of tilt than the Proclip ball. The Proclip ball has a wide base that limited how far you can tilt the mount on the ball. I can actually aim this one at me.
So after a few days with this set up, I found it a bit flimsy trying to get it to not swivel and it did feel slightly rubbery on the mount as well. I found a 15 mm drawer knob online:

Siro Designs 44-151 Fine Brushed Stainless Steel Knob

I received them today (I ordered 2 since shipping was more than the knobs). I hacked up the Proclip extension piece I have as I ended up not liking it and mounted this ball in place. Its ever so slightly larger than the OE ball, but it feels much more solid and much harder to swivel with the nut tightened. The ball is a hair larger than the Griffin ball, so its a bit snug and the nut on the back is harder to thread on initially. Hopefully this will be the end of it.

I'm glad I ordered the second ball too. My GF's Griffin mount for her Mini keeps falling off the dash (There isn't a very flat spot near the location we want it in; with our Bionics, I had a different bottom half, but that used the 17mm ball and that is not easily replaceable). The proclip mount for her car is in a terrible location so I may be fabricating my own mount. I should be able to use this ball for that as well.
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Anyone have this mount or seen one in person?
Price seems good but the mount looks a bit bulky to me.

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