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Old January 14th, 2014, 05:24 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I had a few similar BT issues after the update. It was fixed by reestablishing the pairings for all of the devices. Give that a try.
I've actually been trying that. My Motorola headset and Bose speaker seem to be working more or less correctly, but my home phone and car adapter are still refusing to connect automatically.

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Is there a unread text counter for Hangouts? I don't see one, am I missing something?
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Yay!! Got my update this morning. Finally.
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It's hit or miss Thom. It's no where near as accurate or reliable as Missed it! Tesla Unread will sometimes say I have 143 Facebook notifications when in fact it's 1 or 2. It's like the app doesn't accurately read the data or doesn't reset properly when notifications are cleared.
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The only bug i have noticed so far that is driving me crazy has to do with NOVA and the home button. I have always had it it set up so when i hit the home button it pulls up my app drawer. Since the update, if I am on the home screen and hit the home button the app drawer will pop up and immediately go away. it is very frustrating. I have toyed with most of the settings I know of. Im hoping I am missing something obvious here. Any ideas?
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The only bug i have noticed so far that is driving me crazy has to do with NOVA and the home button. I have always had it it set up so when i hit the home button it pulls up my app drawer. Since the update, if I am on the home screen and hit the home button the app drawer will pop up and immediately go away. it is very frustrating. I have toyed with most of the settings I know of. Im hoping I am missing something obvious here. Any ideas?
It's a known bug, I had to disable that feature.
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The only bug i have noticed so far that is driving me crazy has to do with NOVA and the home button. I have always had it it set up so when i hit the home button it pulls up my app drawer. Since the update, if I am on the home screen and hit the home button the app drawer will pop up and immediately go away. it is very frustrating. I have toyed with most of the settings I know of. Im hoping I am missing something obvious here. Any ideas?
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It's a known bug, I had to disable that feature.
It's not just Nova - any launcher will see a single tap of the home key as a double tap.

We know that Android is up to 4.4.2. The Moto X in Europe will launch with that version. I hope that the US Moto X will get that update soon. If the past is any indication, that would mean the Droids would be about 4-6 weeks behind that first X update. We'll see, though - this is an annoying bug.
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Only for home screens ... look in Gestures and Buttons ... I have swipe down two fingers set to open App Drawer.

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So I have also had some bluetooth issues. Re-paired to my LG soundbar and that went fine but audio quality seems to have been downgraded with the low energy bluetooth. One strange thing that has happened though when activating bt. in my jeep is that it plays in slow motion.(This is not believed to be a kit kat issue as I think it has happened before the update) Droid razr never had this problem.
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I found a better way, just use the regular messaging app. Hangouts sucks. You can send contact cards and no counter. I see zero advantage of using it. If I wanna video call somebody I'll open it up but otherwise......
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Old January 16th, 2014, 04:05 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Only for home screens ... look in Gestures and Buttons ... I have swipe down two fingers set to open App Drawer.

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The very top of that menu is "home key." You can set it to whatever you want. Is that not what you guys are talking about with home key behavior?
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No, I've been using for SMS now for a few weeks. There are things about it I like more. It surely handles MMS conversations better than the old, stock messaging client.
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No, I've been using for SMS now for a few weeks. There are things about it I like more. It surely handles MMS conversations better than the old, stock messaging client.
I was resistant to it, but I like the animations. The video call thing is pretty slick too but I've rarely used it.
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The very top of that menu is "home key." You can set it to whatever you want. Is that not what you guys are talking about with home key behavior?

Yes but with KitKat you get some very odd behavior when you have the home key set to open the app drawer. It will flash up and go away quickly. Very frustrating. It sounds like it is a problem with KitKat, not NOVA though.
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Yes but with KitKat you get some very odd behavior when you have the home key set to open the app drawer. It will flash up and go away quickly. Very frustrating. It sounds like it is a problem with KitKat, not NOVA though.
Yes, it's a known bug with the home key in KitKat, for everybody with the Maxx (and I presume the Ultra and Mini). If you have Nova or Nova Prime you really need to set the home key action to none and then, as Thom said, set a gesture for opening the app drawer (if you have Nova Prime) or just put an icon for the app drawer in the dock or a home screen.
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Yes but with KitKat you get some very odd behavior when you have the home key set to open the app drawer. It will flash up and go away quickly. Very frustrating. It sounds like it is a problem with KitKat, not NOVA though.
Oh I'm sorry, I was misunderstanding you.

I have my home key set in Nova to go to the default screen like it used to in 4.2.2. Then I have single swipe up to open the app drawer. Double tap hides the top navigation bar.

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Am I the only one who actually likes hangouts? Ha!
I hadn't really used it much, other than the vid feature with a few people (and my parents), but I'm giving it a tryout. So far the touchless control works well with it. btw, I love it when google says "awesome".
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I got the update 2 days ago and the only issue I have seen is the battery life. I am planing on doing a factory reset this weekend but I really dont want to go though the hassle of setting up my phone again. Oh well that battery life is worth it.
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I got the update 2 days ago and the only issue I have seen is the battery life. I am planing on doing a factory reset this weekend but I really dont want to go though the hassle of setting up my phone again. Oh well that battery life is worth it.
Before you do that, check out the version of Google Play Services in settings->app->scroll to "Google Play Services" and tap. If the version is 4.0.34, it's been known to cause some battery issues. My phone received the update to 4.1.32 yesterday. I'll know for sure by the end of the day, but already my phone's battery life seems improved over what it has been.

The update rolls out to phones on its own, silently, so you won't know if you have it unless you check.

It's not that a factory data reset is a bad thing - but it is a lot of work, with the potential for data loss if you are not careful about backing things up, and if your only issue is battery life right now, it might be interesting to see if the issue was Google Play Services rather than something that would be solved by an FDR.
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Before you do that, check out the version of Google Play Services in settings->app->scroll to "Google Play Services" and tap. If the version is 4.0.34, it's been known to cause some battery issues. My phone received the update to 4.1.32 yesterday. I'll know for sure by the end of the day, but already my phone's battery life seems improved over what it has been.

The update rolls out to phones on its own, silently, so you won't know if you have it unless you check.

It's not that a factory data reset is a bad thing - but it is a lot of work, with the potential for data loss if you are not careful about backing things up, and if your only issue is battery life right now, it might be interesting to see if the issue was Google Play Services rather than something that would be solved by an FDR.
I'm seeing the same thing. I used 20% more battery yesterday than I did on a "normal day" before KK. Is there a way to manually update Play Services?
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I'm seeing the same thing. I used 20% more battery yesterday than I did on a "normal day" before KK. Is there a way to manually update Play Services?
Yes, there is, but I'd wait. I've seen several people with Droids report that they received it yesterday. I believe that Google rolls these updates out by phone model, so Nexus phones get them first, etc. It should be coming soon if you don't already have it.
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Yes, there is, but I'd wait. I've seen several people with Droids report that they received it yesterday. I believe that Google rolls these updates out by phone model, so Nexus phones get them first, etc. It should be coming soon if you don't already have it.
Doogald- When you say that you would wait and not side load it I'm assuming it's due to security concerns on your end correct?

Have you had a bad experience in the past that gives you such caution with side loading apps?

I've side loaded the updated Google Services apk that was posted on Android Police and haven't had any trouble out of it.
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Doogald- When you say that you would wait and not side load it I'm assuming it's due to security concerns on your end correct?

Have you had a bad experience in the past that gives you such caution with side loading apps?

I've side loaded the updated Google Services apk that was posted on Android Police and haven't had any trouble out of it.
Not so much security concerns, since Google signs these and will not allow an update with an incorrect cryptographic signature (which would be nearly impossible to fake), as concerns as to whether they have versions of GPS specifically for each device or version of Android. So, assuming that this may be the case, installing GPS that's designed for the Nexus 5 and Android 4.4.2 may not work as well with the Droids. That is probably not the case, but waiting for the phone to update automatically is sure to work right with the phone.

The other issue would be that a sideloaded .apk for apps that are Play Store delivered will no longer be updated through the Play Store. I am not sure if that is true for Google Play Services or not. But, it could be.

If Google Play Services was causing additional battery drain on my phone, it was not more than 20-25% extra battery usage in a day. I'm guessing that most Maxx users will not be troubled by that.

So far today I am draining 2.4% per hour. In each of the last few weeks, that number has tended to be about 3.5% per hour. So, I really do wonder if the 1% per hour drain that I've noticed since KitKat was installed was due to the coincidental Google Play Services battery drain bug?


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It's Not Just You - Google Play Services Seems To Be A Battery Hog Today

Google Play Services 4.1 Begins Rollout With Location Reporting Battery Fix, Turn-Based Multiplayer, And More [Update: APK Download]

Update to Google Play Services fixes battery draining bug, includes support for turn-based multiplayer | Android and Me

(Notice that second link has a download for an update, but that's an older version than the one I have on my phone.)
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Before you do that, check out the version of Google Play Services in settings->app->scroll to "Google Play Services" and tap. If the version is 4.0.34, it's been known to cause some battery issues. My phone received the update to 4.1.32 yesterday. I'll know for sure by the end of the day, but already my phone's battery life seems improved over what it has been.

The update rolls out to phones on its own, silently, so you won't know if you have it unless you check.

It's not that a factory data reset is a bad thing - but it is a lot of work, with the potential for data loss if you are not careful about backing things up, and if your only issue is battery life right now, it might be interesting to see if the issue was Google Play Services rather than something that would be solved by an FDR.
I have the newest Google Play Services. I looked at my battery stats and its only 6%. My battery is at 22% and its been going for 43 hours. I would normally get about 50 hours around 22% However I still love getting almost 48 hour battery life.
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Cincybear is Nova worth buying? So I need Nova prime and missed it?
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Overall, primary benefit is responsiveness; just seems smoother, less occasionally balky.

Google Now did not work well after OTA; sometime not at all. Fixed by rebooting phone (SOO fast compared to prev. Razr Maxx HD!) and retraining "OK Google Now".

I really like this phone.

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I have Google play services version 4.1.32 and I'm using about 20% more battery life as well. I really don't want to do a reset but 20% of battery is a big deal.
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Most of my devices and connections seem to have worked themselves out over the course of the last week, but my car adapter (a GoGroove Smart Mini BT that has been excellent until now) still refuses to automatically connect when I get in my car since I took the 4.4 update.
The weird thing is that when I get in my car, it appears to connect for a split second and then disconnect and then it just sits there until I manually connect. I used Tasker to have it flash a message whenever it connects or disconnects with my adapter, and as soon as I start my car, I get both messages in quick succession and then nothing.
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Overall, primary benefit is responsiveness; just seems smoother, less occasionally balky.

Google Now did not work well after OTA; sometime not at all. Fixed by rebooting phone (SOO fast compared to prev. Razr Maxx HD!) and retraining "OK Google Now".

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PS Anybody used Tap to Pay w/ Wallet yet? Supposed to work as I got a notification after update asking me to set it up...
I set it up but every time I try to use it, it won't go any further then requesting transaction.
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Overall, primary benefit is responsiveness; just seems smoother, less occasionally balky.

Google Now did not work well after OTA; sometime not at all. Fixed by rebooting phone (SOO fast compared to prev. Razr Maxx HD!) and retraining "OK Google Now".

I really like this phone.

PS Anybody used Tap to Pay w/ Wallet yet? Supposed to work as I got a notification after update asking me to set it up...
I used Wallet at Foot Locker tonight to buy my son a new pair of shoes. The cashier said that was the coolest thing he'd ever seen.
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Well today my battery life is much better. Been off the clock for 17 hours and I still have 60% battery left...
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The vending machines at my office choke on the authorization, but I did successfully use it at McDonald's to buy lunch last week.
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Wasn't the case at first, but my bluetooth is borked.. Makes a connection, but won't play through my headset or jambox until I reboot. Lame.
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Overall, primary benefit is responsiveness; just seems smoother, less occasionally balky.

Google Now did not work well after OTA; sometime not at all. Fixed by rebooting phone (SOO fast compared to prev. Razr Maxx HD!) and retraining "OK Google Now".

I really like this phone.

PS Anybody used Tap to Pay w/ Wallet yet? Supposed to work as I got a notification after update asking me to set it up...
Hope I'm not jinxing myself, but Google Now works even better, as does Hangouts. Have not tried Tap to Pay with Wallet yet. I dunno. Still tying to get over being burned by Target. Maybe I'm just paranoid. (Probably- I do know it's quite different).
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Agree.

OK Google Now used to fire off when I was watching something on TV. A few times every night. It has happened maybe once since Kit Kat was installed.

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OK Google Now used to fire off when I was watching something on TV. A few times every night. It has happened maybe once since Kit Kat was installed.

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I changed mine to respond to Okay Google so that it works better with GEL and it is so sensitive now that it comes on all the time. When it was trained to a okay Google now out never responded to me falsely.
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I trained it both time times with OK Droid Now and it activates with OK Droid.

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I think it has to be three words and the first one is "OK". You need to play around with it. Try recording three words and see what is accepted. Then try the same three words two more times.

You need to change the way you say it and the speed to get it recorded.

I had to record "OK Droid" "Now" with a slight pause between them.

after recording I then tried saying "OK Droid Now" "weather" and it popped up a search window with "now weather" so I then tried it without the "now" and to my surprise it worked.

I just tried "OK Ultra Now" and "OK Maxx Now" and neither were accepted. "OK Droid Now" was accepted. It could be that "droid" is a hidden feature that Motorola slipped in and I stumbled across.

My motivation ... if I had to keep saying "OK Google Now" or even just "OK Google" or "Google" all day long I just wouldn't use it.

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I think it has to be three words and the first one is "OK". You need to play around with it. Try recording three words and see what is accepted. Then try the same three words two more times.

You need to change the way you say it and the speed to get it recorded.

I had to record "OK Droid" "Now" with a slight pause between them.

after recording I then tried saying "OK Droid Now" "weather" and it popped up a search window with "now weather" so I then tried it without the "now" and to my surprise it worked.

I just tried "OK Ultra Now" and "OK Maxx Now" and neither were accepted. "OK Droid Now" was accepted. It could be that "droid" is a hidden feature that Motorola slipped in and I stumbled across.

My motivation ... if I had to keep saying "OK Google Now" or even just "OK Google" or "Google" all day long I just wouldn't use it.

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Two words work for sure. "Okay Google" works. It's what I use. I think any phrase will work if you say it long enough. I will try it out sometime with different phrases and see if I can train it to answer it. It takes MUCH longer to get it to accept "Okay Google" rather than "Okay Google Now". I would say that I probably had to say it at lease 10-15 times for each of the three times that I have to get it to accept it. That means 30-45 times total during the entire training process.
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