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Old August 11th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #751 (permalink)
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The only reason I'm willing to wait it because I'm not too keen on getting either the S3 or Incredible 4G. If Moto holds back the Razr HD, fine, but if the new Nexus' are coming out around the same time, and from multiple OEMs, I will look at them as well. Risky move if real by Moto IMO.

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Just chiming in with my own skepticism about the "HotHardware" story. Kind of feels like one of the MANY "view-grab" articles I read when waiting for the Droid X (oh, how long ago that seems).

October really does seem like just about the worst possible time to release, and both the regular and Maxx versions coming out at the same time feels like lunacy.

Motorola might, but this still seems wildly far-fetched to me.
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I hope this doesn't delay the phone.

Google Inc. (GOOG) plans to cut about 4,000 jobs at its Motorola Mobility Holdings Inc. unit, or about 20 percent of the staff at the company it bought earlier this year, according to a person familiar with the matter.
Two-thirds of the reductions will be outside the U.S.,

Motorola released about 20 smartphones last year, which Woodside said is too many. He plans to focus on trying to make a few great devices and then concentrate on marketing resources to sell them, he said in May.

Google to Cut About 4,000 Employees at Motorola - Businessweek
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I recently read that its only gonna feature an 8MP cam... I was hoping for a 12MP cam... Does Motorola Droid RAZR HD Feature an 8 MP Camera?
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When they said release fewer phones and put out "greater phones" does that mean the upcoming razr hd? Or are they talking about 2013.
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When they said release fewer phones and put out "greater phones" does that mean the upcoming razr hd? Or are they talking about 2013.
Your guess is as good an anyone elses, because I couldn't find where they specified.

I think the Razr HD is going to be a great phone, but it's been in the "pipeline" for quite some time so hard to say whether Google would have been referring to it specificly.
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I really hope the delay is only to make sure it comes with Jelly Bean. The S3 is rumored to get Jelly Bean by the end of August. If this is true and Moto releases the Razr HD with Ice Cream Sandwich, we really will be buying an outdated phone.
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I recently read that its only gonna feature an 8MP cam... I was hoping for a 12MP cam... Does Motorola Droid RAZR HD Feature an 8 MP Camera?

I'm really starting to think that I should have pre-ordered the S3 to keep my unlimited data.
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3300 mah battery - no longer happening
13 megapixel camera -might not happen
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I recently read that its only gonna feature an 8MP cam... I was hoping for a 12MP cam...
Unfortunately you can't just go by MPs though. I'm not an expert but I know that MPs don't matter for picture quality nearly as much as the sensor, lens and other electronics. You can go buy a 20MP camera for $200 or a 16MP camera for $5,000. That being said, Motorola definitely needs to improve their cameras and should probably throw out what they've always used and start from scratch.
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I'm really starting to think that I should have pre-ordered the S3 to keep my unlimited data.
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Unfortunately you can't just go by MPs though. I'm not an expert but I know that MPs don't matter for picture quality nearly as much as the sensor, lens and other electronics. You can go buy a 20MP camera for $200 or a 16MP camera for $5,000. That being said, Motorola definitely needs to improve their cameras and should probably throw out what they've always used and start from scratch.
MP over 8 on a standard smartphone sized sensor/lens module is BAD and NOT good. Unless you are ONLY concerned about EXTREMELY well lit variety photography. The more pixels on the same sized sensor the smaller they are and the less light they can gather over a given amount of exposure time. On the tiny sensors in the tiny modules in a smartphone the limit is really around 8mp. Technically though if you would prefer better low light performance over extreme fidelity and cropping ability on well lit shots and someone made a low light optimized 5mp sensor it would be BETTER than the normal 8mp ones you get now. Not sure there are any high end low light focused 5mp camera phone sized sensor components out there though so much as value versions of the 8mp ones.

Basically though if you want good indoor use, you want 8mp and no more. Unless it's known to have a HUGE near half SLR sized sensor like the one in the Nokia 808 Pureview. That would be and even more awesome indoor camera if it was 12-20mp rather than 40mp. It's a decent indoor and awesome zoomable outdoor cam the way it's configured with 40mp though. In the correct situations it will resolve more than most good high end SLR's even.
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I was wondering what you all think about the flash not being supported any longer on mobile devices. Do you think the razor hd will have flash on it? if it doesn't come preinstalled how will we get it later?
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I was wondering what you all think about the flash not being supported any longer on mobile devices. Do you think the razor hd will have flash on it? if it doesn't come preinstalled how will we get it later?
In the leaked pictures of the Razr HD, there does appear to be something next to the camera lens that could be a flash. I hope so anyway, I like having the flash available.

Patiently/impatiently waiting for more info on the Razr HD. (official or unofficial)
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No, I meant flash as an adobe flash. LOL

It was reported that if your phone doesn't have it preinstalled now that the Google play has pulled it and you can no longer download it.
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Here is the article.

How to manually install Adobe Flash Player on your Android device | Android Central
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No, I meant flash as an adobe flash. LOL

It was reported that if your phone doesn't have it preinstalled now that the Google play has pulled it and you can no longer download it.
Sometimes I crack myself up..... haha!

Sorry, I totally misread that!
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Latest Rumor:
No Razr HD Maxx coming

Read about it here;

Verizon's Motorola DROID RAZR HD to have 8MP camera, no RAZR HD MAXX coming

Release in the October/November timeframe.
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It sounds like their tipster was just searching the internet for the latest info. LOL
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Laugh RAZR HD Rumor & Speculation Thread

Welcome to the first thread on the Motorola Droid RAZR HD forum. Always fun to speculate on a device before it comes out and see if these rumors hold up. Of course there have been many out there, but I'll start w/ this one.

Rumor: No RAZR MAXX HD Coming, Only an 8MP Camera in the RAZR HD – Droid Life

I love how it says there will be no MAXX version of this device. I mean like they would tell us, just as they did when the Droid RAZR came out right . Gotta be honest I would hold off for a couple of months after launch & see.
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Instead of speculating whether or not it will have a 13mp camera, which I personally think it will not, why don't speculate on whether or not Moto finally listened to years worth of complaints and just made a new/good camera?
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I'm hoping that since this is a HD (hi-def, not Heavy-Duty) phone, that the camera does take the best pictures of any Motorola Phone to date.

However, even if the camera on the Maxx HD is the same as my Droid X, it won't stop me from purchasing it. Some other things might, but not the camera.

Probably the thing that bugs me the most is the non-user replaceable battery. I really like having the option to switch out the battery for a fresh one or even a larger battery if I choose. It looks like this will be a pretty thin phone so a thicker HD (Heavy Duty) battery would be something I would have no problem with.

So Verizon/Motorola, give us some official specs and a release date!
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I have a feeling (by feeling I mean reported info from some Verizon employees) that Moto will be offering up 3 different devices in October. The Razr HD and the Razr Mini are two of them. At this point a tablet or the Razr Maxx HD are speculated.
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I have a feeling (by feeling I mean reported info from some Verizon employees) that Moto will be offering up 3 different devices in October. The Razr HD and the Razr Mini are two of them. At this point a tablet or the Razr Maxx HD are speculated.
Yeah. The Mini has made it through the FCC and seems to be an Incredible 4G LTE competitor. That has a 4.3" screen though. I'm still scratching my head about what size screen the HD will be. If it's like 4.5-4.6 or something not so big and the mini is closer to 4", then maybe the last could be a properly large screened device they have been more successful keeping from leaking to hit as a surprise with the other two??

Never heard the 3 device at once claim, but did seem there were at least 2.
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Yeah. The Mini has made it through the FCC and seems to be an Incredible 4G LTE competitor. That has a 4.3" screen though. I'm still scratching my head about what size screen the HD will be. If it's like 4.5-4.6 or something not so big and the mini is closer to 4", then maybe the last could be a properly large screened device they have been more successful keeping from leaking to hit as a surprise with the other two??

Never heard the 3 device at once claim, but did seem there were at least 2.
I've had 2 or 3 different people tell me that 3 devices are being launched on Verizon in or around October. I was hopping for a Mini, HD and Maxx HD. I have a feeling though that there will be some kind of tablet or a Droid 5 instead of a Maxx HD.
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Hmmmm, looks like Motorola is making some kind of announcement on September 5th at 2 pm EST. Verizon logo included on the announcement.

I just can't figure what this could be about.
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I'm speculating that there will be an announcement on September 5th at 2pm EST by Motorola. I also speculate that it will involve a Verizon phone and/or tablet.
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Motorola, Verizon to host event September 5th

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Hmmmm, looks like Motorola is making some kind of announcement on September 5th at 2 pm EST. Verizon logo included on the announcement.

I just can't figure what this could be about.
The invite features the phrase "On Display," which to me points to HD devices. FWIW.
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The invite features the phrase "On Display," which to me points to HD devices. FWIW.
You know, I didn't even think about it that way. Nice.
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"On display" could also be a Noteish sorta huge screened phone!
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Of course.....4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42. Don't give those out to anyone though.
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"On display" could also be a Noteish sorta huge screened phone!
I hope not. They may be great for some, but anything beyond 4.8" is just too big for a screen.....unless we are talking about something with zero bezel.
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I hope not. They may be great for some, but anything beyond 4.8" is just too big for a screen.....unless we are talking about something with zero bezel.
Well the picture we have seen of the RAZR HD suggest that device isn't a very large screened device. My whole reason for not expecting tablets is that the new Share Everything stuff makes them less profitable in general. Unless of course you can tie them into your voice plan with a BT headset or something. The data focus though has me expecting a bunch of devices that are part of voice plans, but can use lots of data easier. Bigger screens help with that.
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Of course.....4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42. Don't give those out to anyone though.
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Sometimes I crack myself up..... haha!

Sorry, I totally misread that!
You didn't. He specifically asked about THE flash, not flash, which would indicate the hardware camera flash and not a software.
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Secod thoughts about the HD.
Im wondering about the next galaxy note with 5.5 screen. Really, 98% of my use is media, internet and games. Although i do use the phone by bt only like 3-5 calls a week are to my ear.
I know its HUGE, but....it will easily fit all my pockets.
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Secod thoughts about the HD.
Im wondering about the next galaxy note with 5.5 screen. Really, 98% of my use is media, internet and games. Although i do use the phone by bt only like 3-5 calls a week are to my ear.
I know its HUGE, but....it will easily fit all my pockets.
I remember when the Droid X was coming out I went to the Sprint store to check out the EVO because it had a 4.3" screen (same as the "X") and I was worried that I would think it might be to big. Well, after trying the EVO I thought it's not to bad, I can handle that. So when the "X" was released on the 15th of July, 2010, I bought it. I put it in one of the clear cases, which made it even bigger but I still thought it was ok. After a month, I removed the clear case because the phone wouldn't fit in the desk or car dock with it on. After having the clear case on it for a month, removing it made the phone now seem a lot smaller. I'm very easy on my phones so I put a Steinheil "Ultra Crystal" film on the screen (just in case) and here I am 2+ years later.

I guess I said all the above just to say I think a 5.5" screen would be just to big for me. Although I do play games on my phone and would appreciate the bigger screen for that, I get and make about 8-10 calls a day and a 5.5" screen would bug me.

I'm looking forward to the 4.6" screen of the Razr HD (or whatever size it ends up being) and think I'll be able to handle that. Now, not that I'm wishing my life away, but if the Razr HDs release date is in October, it can't come to soon for me.

I'm patiently/impatiently waiting for the release of the Razr HD.
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I hope not. They may be great for some, but anything beyond 4.8" is just too big for a screen.....unless we are talking about something with zero bezel.
That's what people said about the droid X and that's obviously not the case now
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with 4.8 for the S3, who would have thought over 10,000,000 people would have bought it.
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You have to keep in mind that girls have small hands. The Nexus was at the top of my comfort level for phones. The Note is just too big for me to use on a regular basis. If I want something that big I'll get a Nexus 7 and keep it in my purse.
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You have to keep in mind that girls have small hands. The Nexus was at the top of my comfort level for phones. The Note is just too big for me to use on a regular basis. If I want something that big I'll get a Nexus 7 and keep it in my purse.
That's why you have two of 'em!
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If I go the HD route (thinking of Note 2), I'll do retail to keep ULD. If a Maxx comes out later, I'll be upset. However, if the "non" maxx with 2550 isn't enough per reviews, then I won't buy it anyway.
My thoughts are that if you bought the razr with a non removable battery and after 14 days found out it wasn't enough for you, you should have returned it. Then when Maxx comes out, you really cannot be too mad like VZW screwed you. You, all the way to the day before the maxx announcement, had a good phone that you thought was worthy of your money. Then a maxx comes out and your mad because your battery life sucks? Should have returned it in the 14day window.
Well, sure, I'd be upset, who wouldn't; but not fully angry.
So that I don't get screwed by a mysterious maxx HD coming out. I'll do retail. If I then would like more than 2550, I'll sell for a loss and buy a maxx.
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You have to keep in mind that girls have small hands. The Nexus was at the top of my comfort level for phones. The Note is just too big for me to use on a regular basis. If I want something that big I'll get a Nexus 7 and keep it in my purse.
True. I'd wager most Note 2 owners are men.
Since I'm a male, I have decent sized hands, average I guess. I know I could not hold the Note in my right hand and tough the upper left corner of the screen without my palm or thumb "heel?" activating the search soft key. Then again, there is nothing in the top left corner of any phone I need. The pull down menu is center screen. If the note 2 only has 3 buttons or none, it might work even better.
I do have to blame all this on the S3 though. Even though I only had it for 13 days, the screen size of 4.8 was quite nice compared to my DX at 4.3.
A lot of it will come down to screen brightness. That is the main reason my S3 went back in hopes of a moto device with LCD and color boost. It is a very good display compared to the S3 when i did a side by side.

Untill I see both devices, I'll flounder around between the two.
Then again, if there is no VZW Note 2, all is mute anyway.
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Do you think Motorola will lose sales by not releasing the Razr HD for pre-order before the iPhone 5 pre-orders begin?

I know Motorola is having a conference Sept 5 and news of the Razr HD is probably evident but I highly doubt they will start pre-orders before the iPhone 5.
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You have to keep in mind that girls have small hands. The Nexus was at the top of my comfort level for phones. The Note is just too big for me to use on a regular basis. If I want something that big I'll get a Nexus 7 and keep it in my purse.
I actually think a 7" tablet you could put on a cellular voice plan would do OK. And I think they are more likely to happen now that the big money maker is the unlimited voice/text stuff on voice plans rather than unlimited data/text being the big money makes before smart devices were real common. The original galaxy Tab was voice capable, but had that taken out on most versions for US carriers.
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When I bought my Nexus my upgrade was not used, for some reason, so I still have one. Since the Nexus was traded in for a Maxx I am really happy with it. I wouldn't mind having a faster processor and better screen, but it isn't a must just yet. I have no problem with sitting back and waiting to see what comes out. Maybe even until next year or when the Razr HD drops in price.
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I like it. The size and shape looks like it will work for me. I would like a little more info regarding the phones specifications but I'm glad we're at least getting something.

Hopefully we'll be getting more on September 5th.

Got to be getting close now!
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Sweet! Better watch them while you can because I bet they will be taken down tomorrow after a DCMA complaint LOL.
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I like the fact that they are sticking with with same style. The corners are a little more curved, but they didn't completely change to design of the phone.
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Why are they showing Chrome icon, I thought Chrome only worked with jelly bean?
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