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Old September 26th, 2012, 09:36 AM   #1001 (permalink)
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Some reps don't know about new phones until they are trained on them. All reps (corporate reps anyway) are told not to discuss unreleased phones. If you start talking about an unreleased phone in a store another customer could overhear and decide to wait for that device. Since Verizon wants customers signing new contracts they don't want you waiting for the next best thing. They want you getting what is available right that minute.

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Old September 26th, 2012, 11:20 AM   #1002 (permalink)
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Thanks man. I will take a look. I have pretty much decided that I am going to get this or the Galaxy S3. The only problem with the S3 is that I am hearing the battery life isn't that great (but people always complain about that with pretty much all Android phones) and the reception/signal for the phone is horrible.
Battery life is mehhhh and as long as you are in a good signal area it is OK. My sons MAXX started having problems and we had Verizon do a CPO replacement. While waiting omit I let him take my S3 since I had just got the iPhone 5 (got tired of waiting on the MAXX HD). He said the signal was poor for him in Tyler, TX where the MAXX had good signal.
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I asked the sales rep when they were possibly expecting the droid razr maxx/hd and he had no clue what I was talking about.
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Battery life for the GS3 with 4G blows the Razr away and is better than the Razr even using 3G. The condition though needs to be medium to better signal. If a weak signal, Razr has better battery life with 3G. This comparison condsiders the offset for different battery sizes.

In any case, seems obvious the HD will be a nice device.
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Oy!

Antenna issues delaying the Motorola DROID RAZR HD and RAZR MAXX HD?

Grain of salt and all, but sure hope this is not true.
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Old September 28th, 2012, 03:46 PM   #1006 (permalink)
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Antenna issues delaying the Motorola DROID RAZR HD and RAZR MAXX HD?

Grain of salt and all, but sure hope this is not true.
Absolute grain of salt, but if anyone is going to be a stickler for proper signal it would be Motorola.
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motorola seems to have the best signal reception than any other carrier out there. not real sure about LG as i dont hear much about LG. but moto hardware is by far superior.
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Absolute grain of salt, but if anyone is going to be a stickler for proper signal it would be Motorola.
Yeah, I agree OTD. I can't believe that Motorola, the Royalty of Radio Reception, would be iDiots and send the device through the FCC at less than perfection.
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Here's another website talking about the possible antenna problem.

I just posting this cuz it has a nice picture of my next phone (hopefully now before Christmas)

Motorola Droid RAZR HD and Droid RAZR MAXX HD may have been delayed because of antenna problems » Unwired View
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Old September 29th, 2012, 09:23 AM   #1010 (permalink)
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moto will get everything fixed and make it better than ever.
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I'm sure they will fix it before release. Problem is this was found this late in the process and it might delay the release date further. By that time, Note 2, 5" Incredible X will be on VZW.
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i think a great moto device is worth the wait
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I also heard about this antennae issue and read on another forum that: Motorola has been aware of the hardware issue for awhile and is working around the clock to get the razr hd/maxx released by or before black Friday. The phones were originally supposed to all come out at the same time around late September, but because of the antennae issue Motorola had to push back the dates on the razr hd/maxx to sometime November.
I apologize for not having the source handy.

Droid razr hd is available for purchase in south america albeit a different version than whats to be seen on Verizon network, but a release is a positive note. I can't see Motorola pulling another droid bionic scheme on us especially after having a huge press event.

** take the following with a grain of salt***
A Verizon MAP has the release date(s) as Oct 18th
My guess is Motorola is/are doing what they need to do to fix it so they can push it out and still maintain their pricing schedule - 199.99 and 299.99

Otherwise if its much later I don't see many people paying top dollar for a aging processor 1 gb of ram with a bit bigger battery.

SO.. fear not fellow razr anticipators, I still think we will have the phone in our hands before December.. i hope
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Otherwise if its much later I don't see many people paying top dollar for a aging processor 1 gb of ram with a bit bigger battery.
I will, unfortunately. I don't believe in other manufacturers. Motorola or bust. The only thing that can tear me away from HD Maxx is a Moto Nexus. I can't imagine anything coming out within two years that the S4 and 1gb of RAM won't be able to handle. Netflix, hulu+, YouTube, browsing? All I need.
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I will, unfortunately. I don't believe in other manufacturers. Motorola or bust. The only thing that can tear me away from HD Maxx is a Moto Nexus. I can't imagine anything coming out within two years that the S4 and 1gb of RAM won't be able to handle. Netflix, hulu+, YouTube, browsing? All I need.
I love moto also, but have nothing against HTC except usually bad battery life, which is big. However, they do have quality products, powerful, and good screens. The HOX is very nice phone, except: no SD card, non removable battery that is too small. This is where the HD will rock it, but if their new phone comes it out address those bad shortcoming, I'll be looking. Their 5" is looking nice.
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I will, unfortunately. I don't believe in other manufacturers. Motorola or bust. The only thing that can tear me away from HD Maxx is a Moto Nexus. I can't imagine anything coming out within two years that the S4 and 1gb of RAM won't be able to handle. Netflix, hulu+, YouTube, browsing? All I need.
Me too! The Maxx HD will be my next phone. (provided it is released however) I got my Droid X on launchday back in 2010 so I've had it for 2 years and 2-1/2 months (so far) and the only thing it can't do that I'd like it to is connect via 4G. So I imagine that the Maxx HD will last me 2+ years also, just like servo086.

So.... message to Motorola, Get the antenna problem resolved get a Maxx HD into my hands! Please!
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Hey guys, I dunno if this is old news or not (or if it really even belongs here) but apparently its entirely possible to upgrade on contract while keeping your unlimited data. You need atleast two phones to do it, but you order the phone as an upgrade on the line which is not yours, and then call Verizon CS and have them transfer the phone to your line (do not turn it on until you call them or you're screwed). Seems pretty simple and it's working for many people. Just throwing it out there since this is new to me.

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Was going to buy the RHD outright but not anymore thanks to this. Now I'm getting all excited haha.
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HD is now on sale in Germany (no MAXX so far):

Motorola RAZR HD | Günstige Angebote bei o2
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HD is now on sale in Germany (no MAXX so far):

Motorola RAZR HD | Günstige Angebote bei o2
Is that the Maxx HD?
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No. it's not the MAXX. No MAXX yet.
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How can that be either one if Moto is back on the drawing board with antenna upgrades? Pre-order page? I cannot read german.
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How can that be either one if Moto is back on the drawing board with antenna upgrades? Pre-order page? I cannot read german.
Might be the difference between GSM and CDMA. I know little about those technologies, but the RHD has been on sale in South America for a little over a week now. Doubt it'd have been sold if the issues were bad with GSM,

EDIT: Apparently its available in Australia as well.
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Yeah, I agree OTD. I can't believe that Motorola, the Royalty of Radio Reception, would be iDiots and send the device through the FCC at less than perfection.

The same folks at Howard Forums that are writing about it were also credible in the past. Seems it may have more than a grain of salt it. Perhaps a small shaker.

BTW, Moto released the gosh awful DX2, so they are capable of being goobers.
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Canadian pricing is out, but no release date:

http://www.androidauthority.com/rogers-motorola-razr-hd-lte-pricing-leaked-starting-99-99-3-year-contract-119665/
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The same folks at Howard Forums that are writing about it were also credible in the past. Seems it may have more than a grain of salt it. Perhaps a small shaker.

BTW, Moto released the gosh awful DX2, so they are capable of being goobers.
what was wrong with the DX2?

the main difference between it and the popular DX was dual core. signal wise i believe they both had the exact same radios

neither of which were 4G devices

but if you want to talk about moto being goobers, the devour is probably their biggest fail. but some enjoy that phone to its fullest extent
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what was wrong with the DX2?

the main difference between it and the popular DX was dual core. signal wise i believe they both had the exact same radios

neither of which were 4G devices

but if you want to talk about moto being goobers, the devour is probably their biggest fail. but some enjoy that phone to its fullest extent
I had one and tried another before returning:

Ran hot
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The DX1 was a great device, but the DX2 was a rushed together mess. This is a comment by a regional rep and I agree from experience.
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I had one and tried another before returning:

Ran hot
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Poor memory allocation
Spontaneous reboots

The DX1 was a great device, but the DX2 was a rushed together mess. This is a comment by a regional rep and I agree from experience.
Ya, DX1 WAS a great choice back then. With the latest updates, it sucks for me. Random restarts (very slow). While making a 2 hour drive, I had three restarts and never touched the phone. You just look up at the GPS/google maps and see the stupid eye looking at you during the reset. Restarted about .2 miles before the turn. Just made the turn in time. Time to retire it NOW. Unfortunately it is soo bad now, that I'm seriously looking at several other devices besides the delayed RHD (HTC X+, HTC 5" whatever, next Nexus?) since this RHD won't be out for so long.
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Unfortunately it is soo bad now, that I'm seriously looking at several other devices besides the delayed RHD (HTC X+, HTC 5" whatever, next Nexus?) since this RHD won't be out for so long.
I'm tired of waiting too. I have an Incredible 2 (that I'm very happy with) but my gf was wanting a smartphone, so I was gonna get the Razr HD Maxx and give her my Inc 2. With all the delays though, I got tired of waiting and just got another Inc 2. I'm eligable for an upgrade in March, and with HTC announcing their new phone with the quad core Tegra 3 chip (on AT&T), I figured I'd just wait a few extra months and get a phone then. I think the HD and HD Maxx both look like very good phones, but the smartphone industry is primed for a big jump forward with quad core chips finally coming to LTE phones. I think the extra wait will be worth it. Still interested to see how the HD Maxx does though once it's finally released.
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I had one and tried another before returning:

Ran hot
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Poor memory allocation
Spontaneous reboots

The DX1 was a great device, but the DX2 was a rushed together mess. This is a comment by a regional rep and I agree from experience.
it is possible you got a bad batch. then again maybe you didnt.
i have seen quite a few X2's still around and people enjoy them. but it is their device and probably all they can afford, i imagine if they got a new device they would notice issues with the dx2

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Ya, DX1 WAS a great choice back then. With the latest updates, it sucks for me. Random restarts (very slow). While making a 2 hour drive, I had three restarts and never touched the phone. You just look up at the GPS/google maps and see the stupid eye looking at you during the reset. Restarted about .2 miles before the turn. Just made the turn in time. Time to retire it NOW. Unfortunately it is soo bad now, that I'm seriously looking at several other devices besides the delayed RHD (HTC X+, HTC 5" whatever, next Nexus?) since this RHD won't be out for so long.
a co-worker of mine just got the ip5 and i was going to try and talk her out of her dx (i sold mine )
is there a way to return it to the previous builds of GB? or is it just out of reach at this point?
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DX2 was initially released with Froyo and it was plagued with overheating, random reboots. But it got a bit better after GB update.
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the DX1 was plagued with all of those issues as well, but it got better. i hope the RHD doesnt have any of those issues, or the poor signal issue that a few RM owners are having
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the DX1 was plagued with all of those issues as well, but it got better. i hope the RHD doesnt have any of those issues, or the poor signal issue that a few RM owners are having
I've only had mine shut down once for heat (DX1) in a couple years, but it does get really hot.
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Well, I guess this is good news. DROID RAZR HD screen protectors arriving at Verizon Stores

Any month now!
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the DX1 was plagued with all of those issues as well, but it got better. i hope the RHD doesnt have any of those issues, or the poor signal issue that a few RM owners are having
My brother's DX was absolute trash. Froze often, slow as hell, poor signal. Mine was/still is rock solid. No random reboots, no freezes, not jiterriness, etc. And CM9 is pretty damn sweet on it. Seems there's a large disparity between the good ones and bad ones.

As for those screen protectors arriving, I'm getting excited. I want to wait until the end of the month to see if that Nexus rumor pans out, but I'm getting frustrated with 3G. I might have to jump on the RHD if it releases soon.
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slightly off topic here.

I'm all for newer technology and the smartphone market is changing so fast that it can make your head spin. I realize that once released, these moto phones are shipping with aging technology, but I have a hard time believing that the software (android and apps) has currently caught up to even dual core processing. This may be bias but Intel did a study on dual core chips vs single core and much of the results determined that the processing power and speed of the devices were equal.

These new quad core devices while on paper sound great, but I hope the battery life is there to support a massive jump in the processing power.

I look at it this way.. I would rather have the best of older technology (s4 dual core, optimized for battery life) than go with a newer device that's untested in the market (here's looking to you moto droid razr hd/maxx).

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More anticipatory release signals, with screen protectors hitting VZW stores as noted above, and now Amazon dumping the RAZR Maxx old inventory for $50.
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slightly off topic here.

I'm all for newer technology and the smartphone market is changing so fast that it can make your head spin. I realize that once released, these moto phones are shipping with aging technology, but I have a hard time believing that the software (android and apps) has currently caught up to even dual core processing. This may be bias but Intel did a study on dual core chips vs single core and much of the results determined that the processing power and speed of the devices were equal.

These new quad core devices while on paper sound great, but I hope the battery life is there to support a massive jump in the processing power.

I look at it this way.. I would rather have the best of older technology (s4 dual core, optimized for battery life) than go with a newer device that's untested in the market (here's looking to you moto droid razr hd/maxx).

Just my 2c
Oddly enough, the devices with a larger number of cores tend to perform better and have better battery life. Now, those are GSM devices and a regular GSM device will always have better battery than a similar phone with CDMA/LTE radios in them. With a phone like the Razr Maxx HD you have a nice balance of everything though.
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Both of these bits of info bode well for the upcoming release of the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD. ( I know the screen protector info was posted earlier)

Verizon Motorola Droid RAZR HD screen protectors arrive in stores, may mean launch is imminent » Unwired View

Verizon Motorola Droid RAZR MAXX now just $49.99 with contract » Unwired View

Of course the screen protectors arriving now could be just arriving because they were scheduled prioir to the delay due to the antenna issue, but I'm hoping not.

Anyway, every day bring us one day closer to the release of these phones.

I'm patiently/impatiently waiting for that day. I've waited this long, what's a couple more weeks? (Besides, what choice do I have?)
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So the international RHD and Razr i are enrolled in Moto's bootloader unlock program. Hope this proves to be good news for the U.S. version. Hopefully they scrap that dev edition idea.

International RAZR HD and RAZR i now part of Motorola bootloader unlock program | Android Central

EDIT: I know I keep bringing up the Nexus devices around here, but this time, I promise, its worth your while. Some (arguable) evidence of 4.2 existing, and a possible Moto Nexus device (Nexus Razr?).

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/10/05/clues-android-4-2-may-already-be-running-on-a-new-phone-and-a-new-nexus-tablet-both-motorola/

Kind of a stretch, but there's some reasoning to it as well.
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Nexus Maxx. I sure do like the sound of that.
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Yup. Nexus updates, Moto build quality and battery life. Can't ask for a whole lot more than that.

Of course it can turn out to be completely false as well. I'm hoping not though.
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If on Verizon it would be mostly Nexus by name rather than definition. Timely updates from dev community, sure. For stock users, not so much.
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Indeed. Thankfully for us, we're power users so that doesn't pose an issue. I'm literally holding off on the RHD now because I want to see if this follows through. The Occam is really the only phone that can pull me away from the RHD.

Anywho, reviews of the Telstra (Australian) RHD are out here and here for anyone who wants more bits of info.
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This has really thrown me off, too. I can't help but think a Moto Nexus would have an improved camera. I was going to just get the RHDM, but APPARENTLY this announcement is less than 30 days away.
*sigh*
What would it have? 2gb ram, s4 quadcore, 1080p, camera improvements, and vanilla. Wrapped in a Motorola suit of armor it's simply too good of a combination to NOT wait for.
I suppose a deal-breaker for me would be screen size. It seems the mobile-world now demands 5" phones. That is too big for me. I think it looks silly, and it's MUCH too unwieldy. We'll see I guess. RHDM isn't going to be released before the announcement anyway.
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Here is a bit more good news (take this with a grain of salt).

This guy posted:

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No need to make you wonder any longer. Release date is officially Oct 18th we have training this week and next for release of DROID Razr HD & DROID Razr HD MAXX. Razr M is very well done phone so expect these to be just as good of quality.
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The timing sounds right based on the accessories starting to arrive but for some reason I still don't believe it. Really hope I'm wrong and this is it.
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Kellex says the 18th too.

Motorola RAZR HD Now Available in Canada, October 18 Likely for U.S. Launch – Droid Life
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Finally things are starting to come together. Now I just have to decide whether the extra $100 is worth it for the 3300mAh battery and 16 extra GB of internal memory. Or just get the 16GB Galaxy S3 + a 32GB SD card for about $260. This is definitely something I will have to decide when I go to the Verizon store and personally play with these phones. The current Razr Maxx is running the same OS as the Razr Maxx HD will be, right?
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