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Old December 6th, 2012, 07:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Woke up this morning to an update!!! Sweet, My phone is running sooo sooo smooth, and i like the new lock screen as well as the new icons, Very very happy with this update.

They removed my live wallpaper i used, but oh well... phone is running very smooth!

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Got it this morning too. What differences did you notice with the lockscreen? Only thing I saw was a different font for time and date
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Got mine too, downloading as I speak. I've had JB on my Galaxy Nexus since it was released in July so i'm quite anxious to get it on my HD Maxx. I'll post back once its installed and I get to play around with it.
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I like the new screen transitions too.... when launching an app... its cool

as far as the lock screen, yea thats it, haha but i like it.

I dont like how they took the transparency out of the notification bar when pulled down, but they added transparency to the notf. bar when on the home screen.
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I got it too this morning. Was going to install the leak but decided to wait for the OTA. Everything's fairly smooth except the launcher. I have four folders with 9 apps in two and 12 apps in two others. The ones with 12 apps stutter when opening. Not all the time, but enough that it's noticeable. This also happened on ICS. Also, I get redraws every time I exit the Google Play Store and go back to the home screen after I've updated some apps. I don't ever remember that happening on ICS.

Again, everything else is silky smooth. No lag or stutter on any of my other apps. The new transitions are also smooth outside of when they occur from the home screen. Interestingly, quad and antutu scores are only marginally higher. I know benchmark test don't mean a whole lot, but I'd still expect a better score. All in all, I'm happy with the update and I love Google Now.
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I wish I could customize the apps on the lock screen. I would switch to email and some others.
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Im getting notifications through bluetooth too!
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I wish I could customize the apps on the lock screen. I would switch to email and some others.
How do you change which applications you can use? I use a different dialer, camera, and txt app. When I got the phone on ICS I was able to change them but when JB installed it reverted them back.
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I love the improvement in chrome - the browser is just blazing fast. Very happy with the update :-).
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Am I the only one who lost "Sleep Mode"? Only options now are "Power Off" & "Airplane Mode".
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lost sleep too... haha didnt even notice because i never use it
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Crossed over from another thread:

JB downloaded and updated in New Hampshire! So far noticed a couple small things: Sound/silent/vibrate switch on the lock screen has moved to the top left side which I like because I'm left-handed so easier one-hand operation; Google search bar changed to a solid opaque which I don't like and will see if I can change back to just the outline; camera seems exactly the same as ICS - I thought the look was going to change based on some posts I'd read; no real noticeable difference in speed but then I never had any problems or lagginess with ICS anyway; The back/home/recents buttons have changed a little bit and look a little different; Light Flow was turned off - turned it back on but have yet to test; battery seems about the same but will know more tonight after a day's worth of normal usage. I'll report back later on that.
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I have been running JB for a few days now. I haven't noticed any major improvements compared to ICS. There are a few cosmetic changes and the notification drawer adds more functionality. Speed is the same as ICS for me. I never had lag in ICS, though. The Circles Widget is fixed to keep saved settings for notifications.

Some of my apps don't like JB. I may revert back to ICS and go to JB at a later date when more development is done for JB.
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I have been running JB for a few days now. I haven't noticed any major improvements compared to ICS. There are a few cosmetic changes and the notification drawer adds more functionality. Speed is the same as ICS for me. I never had lag in ICS, though. The Circles Widget is fixed to keep saved settings for notifications.

Some of my apps don't like JB. I may revert back to ICS and go to JB at a later date when more development is done for JB.
Interesting - I haven't noticed any non-functionality with old apps yet, but then I also haven't played with most of them. What apps specifically 'don't like' JB? It would helpful if we identified the apps that don't work as well with JB as they did with ICS.

I agree for the most part - not much improvement but didn't have an performance issues with ICS anyway.
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Interesting - I haven't noticed any non-functionality with old apps yet, but then I also haven't played with most of them. What apps specifically 'don't like' JB? It would helpful if we identified the apps that don't work as well with JB as they did with ICS.

I agree for the most part - not much improvement but didn't have an performance issues with ICS anyway.
It is not really specific apps, but ported over apps. I love the Sony Walkman music player and think it is the best android music player available. Everything worked great with ICS, but w/ JB some functions don't work. I am thinking of flashing back to ICS just for that and wait for Sony phones to get the JB update.
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How do you change which applications you can use? I use a different dialer, camera, and txt app. When I got the phone on ICS I was able to change them but when JB installed it reverted them back.
You might need to reset up your default apps for each of those. You could also try Default App Manager from the Play Store.
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Got mine last night. I noticed better screen/app transition speed on stock launcher. But it's still not as smooth as my Gnex was with stock JB. Razr HD seems to have a lot of bloats loaded to memory though its UI looks close to stock android, so maybe that's why it feels more laggy than Gnex. But in Nova launcher RHD is very smooth.

Another con I noticed on RHD is that it doesn't allow to disable some verizon bloats like verizon video, VZ navigator, etc. I can only force close them in all section of app setting. Is there any way to disable verizon bloats without root or force closing them is just like disabling?
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Got mine last night. I noticed better screen/app transition speed on stock launcher. But it's still not as smooth as my Gnex was with stock JB. Razr HD seems to have a lot of bloats loaded to memory though its UI looks close to stock android, so maybe that's why it feels more laggy than Gnex. But in Nova launcher RHD is very smooth.

Another con I noticed on RHD is that it doesn't allow to disable some verizon bloats like verizon video, VZ navigator, etc. I can only force close them in all section of app setting. Is there any way to disable verizon bloats without root or force closing them is just like disabling?
You have to uninstall the updates to these apps first, then you will be able to disable them.
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You might need to reset up your default apps for each of those. You could also try Default App Manager from the Play Store.
I'll give that a shot, thanks.
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Interesting. Mine seems to have kept my live wall paper. Works great so far, and it's SO nice to have it (almost) match my Nex7 in OS.

So, after running the update this morning, I noticed that it started with an opening screen with three little guided tour type things. Only had time to do two of the three before heading to work. Does anyone know how to access those or replay them?

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Got mine last night. I noticed better screen/app transition speed on stock launcher. But it's still not as smooth as my Gnex was with stock JB. Razr HD seems to have a lot of bloats loaded to memory though its UI looks close to stock android, so maybe that's why it feels more laggy than Gnex. But in Nova launcher RHD is very smooth.

Another con I noticed on RHD is that it doesn't allow to disable some verizon bloats like verizon video, VZ navigator, etc. I can only force close them in all section of app setting. Is there any way to disable verizon bloats without root or force closing them is just like disabling?

When you were using your Gnex were you using the stock message app? When I had my Gnex with rooted Jellybean I thought there was a quick reply option built into the stock message app. I guess it could've been a ROM thing but I was looking forward to so I could ditch Go SMS.
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When you were using your Gnex were you using the stock message app? When I had my Gnex with rooted Jellybean I thought there was a quick reply option built into the stock message app. I guess it could've been a ROM thing but I was looking forward to so I could ditch Go SMS.
I was using stock message app in Gnex on JB. it had quick reply in the app.

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I was using stock message app in Gnex on JB. it had quick reply in the app.

Thanks to lowboydrvr for tip for disabling verizon bloats. Will give it try.
I really wish the stock app on the Maxx had it. Might have to root.
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Has anyone else noticed the volume levels have decreased a lot on ICS to JB. Before I hardly had to keep it above 50% for the ringer and notifications but now I have it maxed out. What a pain!
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I lost my live wallpaper too. Anyone know of another one similar to the sky & grass one that changes colors based on the time of day?
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Also noticed that when you hang up a phone call, the screen stays on the recent call list. It used to revert back to the home screen after you completed a call. I prefer the old way.
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Also noticed that when you hang up a phone call, the screen stays on the recent call list. It used to revert back to the home screen after you completed a call. I prefer the old way.
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It also seems that my issue with laggy screen dimming has not gone away with jb. Is anyone else noticing that when the screen dims before turning off the dimming is very jagged and not a smooth dimming?
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In ICS I was able to use the voice input (Microphone next to keyboard) when texting or doing an email. Now it does nothing unless the google search is enabled and will only activate google search but not input anything. Am I missing something after the update to JB or was this changed.
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I'm using a microphone on the keyboard right now.

it works fine for me
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I have noticed, sadly, that Jelly Bean has slowed down my phone the DRMHD. Some apps don't perform well and I've already tried clearing partition 3 times. It helps a little but not a lot. A big bug that I noticed is in the task switcher. For me the background goes black instead of transparent when switching tasks and I was wondering if anyone else was having this issue?
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Do you mean when using the recent apps button? If so, mine is doing that a bit. In general the transitions are smoother, but that has happened two or three times
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Do you mean when using the recent apps button? If so, mine is doing that a bit. In general the transitions are smoother, but that has happened two or three times
Yeah the recent apps button. Mine does it every time. Whenever I use it the background is black. In ICS the background was transparent. If I look at it in a dark room I actually see that there are horiztonal grey lines but in a normal room it just looks black. I'm pretty sure this is a bug but I was wondering if it was just my device or if this was happening to other people too.
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Since I updated to Jelly Bean last night I have noticed that my phone is definitely slower than it used to be. The circles widget is way slower than it was on ICS when flipping through the "lenses" and also switching between homescreens is slow sometimes and there is lag. The app launcher is faster though. Is any one else experiencing this issue or should I ask Motorola for a new phone?
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I can't say mine is slower in any way really. Generally seems a bit smoother. Haven't messed with the camera since update, but had no major problems with it before. I am really waiting to see if I get a bit of a battery bump in the next few days....that's what I would mainly like to see
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Update to my initial observations from earlier in the day:

After using the phone all day with the new JB on it I am still not noticing much of a difference in speeds. Definitely not any faster or smoother but like I said, ICS was always pretty fast and smooth for me. If anything I've noticed a few times when it seemed a little slower. There seem to be a couple more redraws than I'm used to seeing and those seemed slower but again, not by much.

I have yet to have any program conflicts with the main programs I use. I poked around and there seemed to be a whole lot of added Google bloatware installed with JB - Google magazines, Google mp3 music or something. I got rid of them all. Also thanks to the poster with the tips about uninstalling updates and then getting rid of Verizon bloatware - that worked well.

Battery seems about the same to me. At first it seemed to be going faster than usual, and then a little later is seemed slower. But after a solid 8-hour shift at work of streaming music, playing online chess, surfing fb & Tapatalk, and texting I'm still at 37% battery which is about right for that much use.

I played with Google Now a little bit and it's okay but I'm not a real big Googler anyway. Probably the one new thing that I can say that I absolutely love is that the Back key changes to a down arrow key when the keyboard is open. Hitting this drops the keyboard out of the way. This is something that always annoyed me before so I love this feature.

I have not noticed any difference in the performance of the Circles widget. My screen background is black in the recent apps button but I almost never use that function either and I honestly don't remember what it was the few times I used in ICS. I have not noticed less volume in my ringtones or notification sounds. I did notice that when I went in the check the sound levels that all of them were up to max. I generally back the notification one way off.

I had never tried the little microphone speech to text button on the keyboard before so I tried it. At first it said 'Getting ready...' and had the microphone with a red slash through it. It took quite a while but it finally started working and worked surprisingly well. Subsequent tests of it worked much faster after the initial try.
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Welp......After installing, and messing around with JB for most of the day, I wasnt impressed. It seemed to lag a bit every now and then. I did 2 cache wipes, or whatever its called, and it seems much better now. About what it was on ICS, or a very little bit better. I DO NOT like how after a call ends, it takes you to the recent calls list, rather than the home screen, as it did before. The camera does seem to be a bit better with picture quality, with much better low light pics.
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It's getting super laggy for me. Putting a damper on my excitement over getting jb. Dammit.
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If your phone is laggy after the update I would suggest doing a reset on the phone. I had the same issue with my OG RAZR after the update. When I did my reset the phone was pure amazing. But I am not having any issues on my MAXX HD now, so no need.

But is it just me or do we seem to lose more features than gain with every update?
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Old December 7th, 2012, 12:08 AM   #40 (permalink)
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If your phone is laggy after the update I would suggest doing a reset on the phone. I had the same issue with my OG RAZR after the update. When I did my reset the phone was pure amazing. But I am not having any issues on my MAXX HD now, so no need.

But is it just me or do we seem to lose more features than gain with every update?
Do you mean a hard reset because I haven't done that. I have clear cache partition it three times already though. Or did you just mean turn it off and on.
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Do you mean a hard reset because I haven't done that. I have clear cache partition it three times already though. Or did you just mean turn it off and on.
Hard factory reset with clearing cache. It worked like a charm for me and others. I already turned off the computer so I can't link you to the topic, but after the original RAZR got the update many people had random issues that were fixed after the reset - myself included. I was ready to do it on this phone but don't seem to be having any issues.
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Old December 7th, 2012, 08:38 AM   #42 (permalink)
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One simple thing that appears to have been lost with this update is the Desk Clock option that I found very useful. It was part of the Circle Widget Clock function. When I would plug it in to recharge at night, press on the Circle Widget Clock it would bring up the set alarm function. Then I would hit the three vertical dots and one of the options was Desk Clock which would turn the screen into a simple desk clock display that when you touch the face of the phone would dim way down - perfect for when are sleeping. But now this appears to just be gone. Bummer. I'm sure its easily replaceable with an app but still...
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There is a separate Clock app that does this now. I actually prefer this as it is easier to set up with smart Actions.
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I lost the ability to see messages on my car's multifunction display. It worked great with ICS, but not at all with JB. I'm pretty annoyed about this, as this was one of the reasons I bought the handset.

Although I know I can revert back to ICS, I shouldn't have to. I'm going to call Verizon and ask them what they're going to do to resolve this. I've had the phone a little over two weeks.

Also, it is laggy for me. I did the hard reset; it had absolutely no impact. I'm very surprised some of this isn't caught during the "soak tests." It tells me that either Motorola doesn't take the feedback from the soak testers (except for major issues), or the soak testers only participate because they want to play with a new release.

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There is a separate Clock app that does this now. I actually prefer this as it is easier to set up with smart Actions.
Yes - I see that now. I already went in and found an app called Dock Clock which is pretty nice and configurable so I guess I'll just use that for now and if there are any issues I'll get rid of it and add the Clock program to my Sleep SA.
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The black background in the recent app list may be a JB thing. I have it on my Nexus 7 as well.

For those that are experiencing slow transitions on JB, i noticed that the update resets the speed preferences for window and transition animations as well as the animator speed back to the default 1.0x setting under developer options (in settings menu). Well it did on my phone anyway. I changed it back to 0.5x for all three settings and the transitions and window opening animations are back to being lightening quick.

I still get the occasional lag from the stock launcher, but that probably more of a launcher issue than a JB one.
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Old December 7th, 2012, 11:28 AM   #47 (permalink)
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One thing I hate is the Contacts is now with a white background that doesn't flow well with the stock dialer and messaging app.

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I lost the ability to see messages on my car's multifunction display. It worked great with ICS, but not at all with JB. I'm pretty annoyed about this, as this was one of the reasons I bought the handset.

Although I know I can revert back to ICS, I shouldn't have to. I'm going to call Verizon and ask them what they're going to do to resolve this. I've had the phone a little over two weeks.

Also, it is laggy for me. I did the hard reset; it had absolutely no impact. I'm very surprised some of this isn't caught during the "soak tests." It tells me that either Motorola doesn't take the feedback from the soak testers (except for major issues), or the soak testers only participate because they want to play with a new release.

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I am interested to see what response you get from Verizon. The problem with the soak test was they did it during the week for only 3 days then immediately following was the push from Verizon. I think the soak test should be longer with a weekend included. I don't think the purpose of this soak test was to fix bugs, but to make sure the update works and report bugs.
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ive noiced stock keyboard issues, for example, after completing a word it no longer dispalys punctuation (ie. comma, period, question mark, exlmation point) and the keyboard in general seams laggy
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There is a separate Clock app that does this now. I actually prefer this as it is easier to set up with smart Actions.
Something I just noticed...if you long press on the clock, it dims even further.
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I'm overall liking some parts of the upgrade, the little bit of lag I had on ICS is gone but at the price of more bloatware? I mean wtf...why does Verizon suddenly think I need audible and 3/4 of the other bloat they package...its bullshit IMO

Though I have been using it lightly/moderately I'm up to a day and a half of battery life and I still have 14% of my battery left lol
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