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Old January 2nd, 2013, 04:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Can anyone share their Pro's and Con's of the Razr M with me?

I currently have an HTC Incredible that's not so Incredible and I'm thinking about upgrading to either the Samsung Galaxy S3 or the Motorola Razr M. I've test driven the S3 and like it except for it's size. A rep at the Verizon store suggested that the Razr M was a good phone based on what I told her about the way I use the phone but I never trust sales people.

I basically use my Incredible for phone, text, browsing the internet, email and navigation. Although I have used my phone as a camera, I don't use it that way on a regular basis. My main criteria is good sound quality, good reception, good battery life and not crashing. I don't play games on it and seldom play music on it. Bells and whistles are nice but I would rather have a reliable workhorse so I'm looking for feedback on the Razr M to get some feel on whether this phone would be right for me.

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Pros: Fast. long-lasting battery. about the perfect size. sharp screen. sealed battery. ui is easy to use.

Cons: Screen small compared with some if that is what you want. Camera isn't bad but isn't great either. Non-replaceable battery. Getting to the edge of the screen with an Otter Box is tough at first but you get used to it. No menu button but not a factor after about 2 days with it.

Tried out the S3 before this and it just felt "clunky" to me. Was nice but this just feels right and 'works the way I think'. I would have had no problem using the S3 at all though. The back button on the S3 seemed to be hit or miss and that got a bit annoying.
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I came from the HTC Incredible (first version) to the "M," and use the device similarly to what you describe. I like the smaller size of the M, and that was a major factor in my decision (also looked at Razr Maxx, S3, and others - all of which are larger form factor). On my old Incredible, I would plug it in for charging whenever I could since the battery drained quickly (email set to push). My M often still has 50+% battery at end of day without any charging. Sound quality on calls is as good as any cell phone I've used, but I'm not an audiophile. My M has never crashed in the about 4 months I've had it.

It takes a couple of days to get used to the operating system changes and interface, but the M does everything the Inc did. The only thing I miss from the Inc is the time/weather widget with the lightning, rain, etc. animations. The "M" has a similar widgit - functionally - called Circles, but it doesn't have the animations.
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You can get the Sense clock app. I used it on my Droid X with Go Launcher because you could set the number of icon rows with Go. Sense clock is 4X2 and it takes up too much room with the stock Launcher on the M. I use "Make Your Own Clock" in 4X1 setting and Weather Bug widget.
For me the weather clocks are all show and no go. I know what it looks like outside..lol. I rely on looking at radar for my weather. The stock circle app is OK but again took up too much room for my liking plus the "weather" part of it was not to my liking. Also I don't like icon labels on my screen. With the stock launcher you can't get rid of them like you can with Go. So I made all my icons as folders and deleted the label. What my phone looks like now:

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Thread interests me immensely as my Razr M comes in this week (hopefully tomorrow). I'm a bit apprehensive TBH. I'm switching from the Incredible 2 and really love Sense. I've tried to switch twice before (Incredible 4g and Rezound) and failed and went back to the Incredible 2. The main thing is the battery life for me. It kicks so much ass on the DInc 2. So that's a game breaker for me. There also don't appear to be many accessories for this phone. We'll see what happens.
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You can get the Sense clock app. I used it on my Droid X with Go Launcher because you could set the number of icon rows with Go. Sense clock is 4X2 and it takes up too much room with the stock Launcher on the M. I use "Make Your Own Clock" in 4X1 setting and Weather Bug widget.
For me the weather clocks are all show and no go. I know what it looks like outside..lol. I rely on looking at radar for my weather. The stock circle app is OK but again took up too much room for my liking plus the "weather" part of it was not to my liking. Also I don't like icon labels on my screen. With the stock launcher you can't get rid of them like you can with Go. So I made all my icons as folders and deleted the label. What my phone looks like now:

Very nice. I did something similar but added a battery widget.
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After a DINC you are gonna love this battery life, reception signal, and size. My battery lasts me all day and I'd say I'm moderate to nearly heavy use.
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Thanks everyone for the feedback as the more I hear the more intersted I get in the M. The only thing that's holding me back now is a rumor that Motorola may announce an HD version of the M with a 4.5 instead of a 4.3 screen and a much larger battery. According to one rumor the announcement will be at CES next week so I'm going to limp along until then and see what pops. Hopefully if they do announce it then it will be available soon. If not.....

Here are a couple more questions for you all....

When my HTC Incredible locks up on me which it does frequently I have no other choice other than popping of the back cover to remove and reinsert the battery. Has anyone had a lockup and if so how were you able to get the device operational if you could not pull the battery?

When my Incredible was new I had to put a skin on the screen because even though it has a Gorilla Glass sceen everyone said that Gorilla Glass would still scratch. With these newer model phones do you feel that a skin is still required?
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4.5 screen would be great. You'd almost think they are coming out with something(well, what else is new), seeing as though they are practically giving these away at $49 after rebate.
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Moondog -

I can't help with yur first two questions... I haven't heard of a "new and improved" version, but there always will be the next best thing as soon as you pull out your wallet on the old, obsolete, stupid phone/pad/computer/car/TV/wife....

As far as screen protector/film... I don't use it on the M and have had no issue. I'm not particularly gentle, but mostly keep it in my shirt pocket away from keys, etc. I never used one on the DINC either, and it held up well for nearly 3 years.
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I've enjoyed my M for the last month or so. Great call quality, solid battery, and I've yet to experience any kind of crash.

On the negative side, I'm not too impressed with the camera and I'm just not a fan of pentile screens. They're just not as sharp if you like to do a lot of reading on your phone.

I might wait to see if the M HD becomes a reality. The 4.3" screen loses some real estate to the on-screen keys, so the 4.5 would be a nice improvement.
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One of the things I like most about the M is the overall size. I don't think I'd like a larger screen.
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When using Google voice to dial does the call log show the access numbers or actual contacts ? How is Bluetooth stability / quality with oem systems especially infiniti and Nissan?
Had the Razr maxx and it sucked at those two things, switched to LG Lucid for the size and it is almost perfect save for the battery which only lasts a day.
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One more question I wanted to ask.....

ATT makes a big deal about the fact that on their I-Phone you can talk and surf the web at the same time while on the Verizon I-Phone you cannot. I know on the S3 for Verizon you can do both. Can you with the M?
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ATT makes a big deal about the fact that on their I-Phone you can talk and surf the web at the same time while on the Verizon I-Phone you cannot. I know on the S3 for Verizon you can do both. Can you with the M?
I don't know about 3G, but I can on 4G.
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On 4G you can. But how many times do you really do that? I'd be like...."I'll look that up and get back to you" anyway.
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On 4G you can. But how many times do you really do that? I'd be like...."I'll look that up and get back to you" anyway.
Well, I've had situations where being able to use the browser while on a call would have been beneficial but instead I had to disconnect the call, browse and then reconnect. The bad point is when you are asked a second question that makes you repeat the whole process. That's what turned me off on the IPhone 5. If you cannot do both on that phone then why bother? If I get an M (leaning heavily in that direction) I just wanted to know if I can just in case that situation arises again.
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Well, I've had situations where being able to use the browser while on a call would have been beneficial but instead I had to disconnect the call, browse and then reconnect. The bad point is when you are asked a second question that makes you repeat the whole process. That's what turned me off on the IPhone 5. If you cannot do both on that phone then why bother? If I get an M (leaning heavily in that direction) I just wanted to know if I can just in case that situation arises again.
Ok I just tried going on the internet while on a phone call, they both work fine, I also opened Google maps and tried navigating to an address that I have never been to before, and again both worked fine. So to answer the question about the RAZR m, yes you can "surf the web" while you're on a call.
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Ok I just tried going on the internet while on a phone call, they both work fine, I also opened Google maps and tried navigating to an address that I have never been to before, and again both worked fine. So to answer the question about the RAZR m, yes you can "surf the web" while you're on a call.
Were you on 3G or 4G?
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Were you on 3G or 4G?
I'm on 4G, Not the greatest reception because of my location, I have a signal of about -106-109dBm, but...

I just tried turning 4G off and using 3G only but Doing that makes browsing not possible while on a call.
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I will say that the phone has impressed me with it's battery life in the 3-4 days I have it. I'm not happy with it not having a removable battery. If I knew that ahead of time I probably would've passed on it. I'm not sure what I'm going to do on vacation when I need the extra battery time.

The interface is unimpressive especially compared to Sense. I haven't found a replacement launcher that I like though so I'm stuck w/it.
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You try Go Launcher? Nothing much not to like from it. Not much you can't do with it.
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I'm currently on the first droid incredible and it's only a matter of time (weeks-2months) before I upgrade. I love the launcher pro app on my dinc. Is this still available for the razr m?
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Launcher Pro is waaaaaaaaaay behind the curve. There was a time is was THE launcher though. Go Launcher is leaps and bounds beyond it now.
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A couple problems I've had with my M:
1) Disabling Google Search, causes voice input to be messed up.
2) Storing photos to the phone resulted in abrupt loss of all photos taken with the camera with no warning. I have since gone to an SD card and will see how that goes.
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Two more questions I've thought of......

1. How is the voice recognition dialer on the M? When I had an old Motorola Flip Phone I used the voice recognition dialer all the time but on my DINC is did not work well (actually not at all). Can someone let me know how good or bad it work on the M when attempting to make call from your contacts list?

2. I understand that the M has a micro USB interface/power connector but someone told me that Motorola phones, even though this interface is the same as I have on my DINC, knows the difference between a Motorola branded interfaced and a generic interface and that the M may not charge with a generic charger or the generic car charger. Now I'm a bit skeptical about this claim, but this guy says he has seen this on older Motorola products and he works in the mobile phone support area of the company I work for. Can anyone tell me if a generic micro usb charger works on the M?
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2. I understand that the M has a micro USB interface/power connector but someone told me that Motorola phones, even though this interface is the same as I have on my DINC, knows the difference between a Motorola branded interfaced and a generic interface and that the M may not charge with a generic charger or the generic car charger. Now I'm a bit skeptical about this claim, but this guy says he has seen this on older Motorola products and he works in the mobile phone support area of the company I work for. Can anyone tell me if a generic micro usb charger works on the M?
Any charger works fine. I have several generic charges, including car chargers, and dont have any problems.
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I believe the issue is quality control. Motorola equipment must meet stringent standards before it is released for sale. Some third-party suppliers of both chargers and cables have less stringent standards. Some of their stuff works fine. Some of it doesn't work.

The approach that has pr oven to be sound over and over again is to use the charger and cable that came with you phone. This establishes a reference point. Experiment with other chargers and cables if you like. If you run into problems you can zero in on the solution by reverting to the OEM charger and cable to prove everything is OK and then swap in the third-party charger or cable.

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Voice recognition is quite awesome!! With Google Search. Some apps use it, some do not.
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My biggest con w/this phone is the volume rocker being on the wrong side. I got used to being able to toggle the rocker with my thumb and now I've got to use my index finger which feels awkward to me. The battery life is a huge pro for me though I'm not liking the fact that I can't replace it.
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Thought the same about the button positions myself. After three days I never thought about it again. But I will admit to hitting the power button sometimes when wanting to hit the volume. And when switching to landscape mode I reverse the vol up/down many times.
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Since I have a ruggerized case on my M, I haven't had this issue.
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Launcher Pro is waaaaaaaaaay behind the curve. There was a time is was THE launcher though. Go Launcher is leaps and bounds beyond it now.
wow thanks. haha I need to get back into the game. Does the Go Launcher work for the original DInc too?
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I would think so. I had it on my Droid X.
Have you even had an update to Launcher Pro in the last year? Just curious.

Another thing. You can run more than one Launcher at a time without affecting the other or having to delete it. Just download it and play around with it. You can always go back to the other by hitting the Home button and switching or just deleting the other Launcher.
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I would think so. I had it on my Droid X.
Have you even had an update to Launcher Pro in the last year? Just curious.

Another thing. You can run more than one Launcher at a time without affecting the other or having to delete it. Just download it and play around with it. You can always go back to the other by hitting the Home button and switching or just deleting the other Launcher.
Thanks. I'll give that a try and hope that it can make my phone more tolerable until I upgrade.
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I thought I would add a follow up to my origional post.

After waiting for about a 2 weeks after my orignal post, I did enough research and felt comfortable with purchasing the Razr M to replace my HTC Incredible. So far I have had my Razr M for just over a week now and I'm VERY happy with my decision.

What I have found so far is that the M operates flawlessly. Nothing qwirky like my DINC. Battery life is excellent and way above my expectations. I have had no problems with any apps which was not the case with my DINC. Screen is very sharp and crystal clear.

Note that prior to buying the Razr M I had an opportunity to test drive the Galaxy S3 and even though it's a nice phone with a lot of bells and whistles but if your looking for a smaller sized smartphone that's rock solid, you cannot go wrong with the Razr M and for my needs the Razr M is simply a better phone than the S3.
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Old January 19th, 2013, 11:38 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I'm glad that you decided to go with the Razr M and are very happy with it! I love my Razr M and would not trade it for the world. I've had Samsung android based devices in the past as well as a couple of the Apple iPhones and Blackberry devices, but by far my favorite is the Droid Razr M. As far as the camera goes I feel that the camera is "good enough" for what most people will use it for, but for me nothing can replace the Nikon DSLRs that I've had the pleasure of owning over the years. Enjoy the M!
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I'm finding the camera to be just awful. Bad to the point where it might as well not be there. On my next vacation, I'm probably going to back my old point and shoot. This camera is just horrible.
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Battery life amazing compared to the RAZR. Camera is good unless zoomed in. Haven't tried moving shots yet though. Audio seems louder than the RAZR. Haven't found any glitches as of yet. I'm still deciding on root though. I'm scared so early after it's come out.
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I find the camera just fine. As i have said in other posts.....don't rely on AUTO to do it for you. You have manual settings with this camera. Play with them. And don't rely on the flash for all your pics. I find much better pics, disabling the flash! Play with exposure settings too, especially indoors.
If you need to do Macro pics, try the app: Magnifier. It works great for Macro shots.
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So, I realize that this thread hasn't been posted on in a number of days but I'm facing a similar situation. I have a Droid Bionic and I love this phone. I have been having some signal issues that I shouldn't be having. Basically I can hang up from a phone call and my signal goes from fine to absolutely no service for several minutes. It will also randomly just loose service in a great service area and then get it back in a few minutes. I went thru a lot of discussion with Verizon and even a small conversation with Motorola that ended with me hanging up on them because they didn't want to help at all.

So they offered me the LG Intuition and the Razor M. I chose the Razor M. I'll have it on Friday. I'm pretty sure that I'll have the same processor if not a better one. I use Nova launcher on my Bionic. I'm hoping that the M allows me to use it. I'm also rooted on my Bionic. If I don't like the M I'll just wait my time out to use an upgrade on my account to get the S3.

I just wanted to ask what am I loosing and what am I gaining by going to the M over keeping the Bionic and dealing with the signal issues. I can live with the issues, I just thought that I could use the chance at getting a little bit better phone for awhile because I have become bored with my Bionic even though I do love it so much. I have never been happier with a phone. Which you will all probably ask why not stay with the Bionic? Well boredom with it. It feels small to me now and even though I've spent a decent amount of money on multiple cases including an otter box as well as a car mount I just want the bigger screen and honestly a new toy to play with. If an S3 would land in my lap for free I would take it an run. If a Maxx did the same thing I would run as well.

Any help would be awesome. I already think going into it that I'm not going to like it, but I'm hoping that I'm wrong.
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Model selection is an individual decision. You might not like what I like.

I suggest you go to a Verizon store ... handle the Razr M and any other phone and and see what you like.

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Thom, your help and opinion has always served me well since being on this forum. I understand what you are saying, and while I'll go and play with the M in the store if I have the chance to do so today I would like to bring up something else along this topic.

So I know we all use our phones for different things, some more for business or work, some more for media, and some more of an all around user. I honestly am not really any of those. I don't really use my phone for phone call, I text 98% of the time. I don't put music on my phone nor listen to it with my phone thru an app. I don't use navigation on my phone. And I play some games at times, and I get on facebook with my phone about 2 times a day at best, and I check my twitter feed a few times a day, more if there is a hockey game on.

So with my list of uses for what I do with a phone....they probably differ from a lot of you out there. I'm still just curious as to what I'm getting or not getting in comparison to what I already have? So...Bionic VS Razr M
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I think that if voice is important to you (which you say it isn't) then you would choose ANYTHING Motorola. It is the recognized leader.

The reason for handling ... form factor.

Many people think the Razr M is great because of the size. Many people dislike it because of the size.


Many people think the Razr Maxx HD is great because of the size. Many people dislike it because of the size.

I am using the Bionic (since the hour it was released) and like it a lot. If I was going to upgrade today I would go with the Razr Maxx HD. If I could wait a few months ... I would ... and see what the X had to offer.

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Just came from the Verizon store. I played with the razr M. It is very light, and well the screen is the whole phone with no border. I guess it's something I can get use to. The other options on phones that I was given was the LG Intuition and LG Spectrum 2. I realize that the Spectrum 2 is a downgrade but what I like about it is the size. The Intuition is pretty cool for it being a tablet phone. But I was told that any of the motorola phones blow it out of the water. So as soon as I get to playing and customizing the M tomorrow I'll make my choice....either go with it or stick it out with the Bionic until September when I can go get the S3.
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