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Old November 7th, 2011, 10:38 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Oh dear so many contradicting reviews. This is really not helping me make a decision

The verge reviewer in particular really didn't like the display and the engadget reviewer liked it and said its not pentile which I'm sure is wrong??

EDIT: Looks like engadget have realised their mistake and updated their review accordingly
I must comment on the Verge review. Nilay lost all credibility when he said, and I quote:

"Compared to Motorola’s excellent qHD LCD displays in devices like the Bionic"

Come on now LOL!! I mean really? hahahaha

Verge borders on ridiculous now.

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In my best Cartman accent, "hmmm looks like my concerns about heat & battery life may be correct". Usually media reviews do not pick this up so soon and actual owners do.

Rush you did say at the get go...

Batt and camera will be ehhh, what did you expect...Lmaooo

What are you doing? U gonna grab it and put it though it's paces or what?
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I must comment on the Verge review. Nilay lost all credibility when he said, and I quote:

"Compared to Motorola’s excellent qHD LCD displays in devices like the Bionic"

Come on now LOL!! I mean really? hahahaha

Verge borders on ridiculous now.

Ok Cereal you love the Razr...we get it! hahahaha! I happen to think you know what your talking about after spending 45 minutes with the phone...

In all seriousness ...was the screen bright and vibrant to you? The unit I saw wasn't on...
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I must comment on the Verge review. Nilay lost all credibility when he said, and I quote:

"Compared to Motorola’s excellent qHD LCD displays in devices like the Bionic"

Come on now LOL!! I mean really? hahahaha

Verge borders on ridiculous now.


100%^^^^^^.....and can we get SOMEONE to test the HEAD-PHONE.....JACK?!!!!
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Ok Cereal you love the Razr...we get it! hahahaha! I happen to think you know what your talking about after spending 45 minutes with the phone...

In all seriousness ...was the screen bright and vibrant to you? The unit I saw wasn't on...
No it was not. I wrote that in my review....

http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-razr/441166-droid-razr-review-demo-unit.html

It's not about loving anything neither. That comment was sheer stupidity, you must admit.
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No it was not. I wrote that in my review....

http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-razr/441166-droid-razr-review-demo-unit.html

It's not about loving anything neither. That comment was sheer stupidity, you must admit.

Im busting your chops...your review was plenty good...

I've never taken the Verge seriously bro..
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Well, I'm getting sick of waiting for SGN, and was reading up on some of the reviews for RAZR to see if it's a fallback option, but no dice. The Verge says display sucks, again. I don't know why Moto doesn't think that a screen and a camera are important to a phone. If it gets awesome call quality but the screen and shooter suck, that doesn't seem like a good tradeoff.

Oh well. Back to the SGN waiting room!

How can you even remotely take the verge seriously? They say the Razr screen sucks then turn around and say how great the Bionic screen is and we all know that the Bionic screen is terrible.
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How can you even remotely take the verge seriously? They say the Razr screen sucks then turn around and say how great the Bionic screen is and we all know that the Bionic screen is terrible.

I just let out a pretty big laugh...

Amazing...I really need to start my own review site, how on earth some of these sites are taken seriously is beyond me.
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Old November 7th, 2011, 11:26 AM   #59 (permalink)
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I just let out a pretty big laugh...

Amazing...I really need to start my own review site, how on earth some of these sites are taken seriously is beyond me.

I look forward to it. The fact that you have the devices more than 24 hours like the verge will ensure accurate real life reviews.
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I look forward to it. The fact that you have the devices more than 24 hours like the verge will ensure accurate real life reviews.

I'm seriously considering it ; )
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the engadget guy even says " not sure of the difference between qhd and super amoled" i think they even edited that part out. how about researching? the specs on the phone cam out a month ago. bottom line is we dont live in a world of true journalists anymore. just bloggers looking for hits. a phone review is the 14 days you have to return your phone. thats when you get real world answers to important questions. and again, how do you make comparisons to the bionic without discussing the headphone jack?!!!!!!!!
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Ok, unless the phone I was messing around with in the store yesterday was one of a kind, the RAZR screen looked absolutely GORGEOUS. Bright and vibrant with colors that pop - I was shocked at how nice the screen was!

So I dunno about all the "negatives" for the screen in the round up of reviews.
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Or maybe it was just an issue with one phone...

I don't recall seeing the same complaint on other reviews. Of course I could have missed it. Has this complaint been cropping up consistently on the other reviews?

Hence Cartman voice, since he latches on to the one small thing that supports his unique perspective.
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this guy is trying to figure out who makes the extrnal battery pack. says its from verizon not motorola. then he references the logo which is an M for motorola. hahahahaha
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OK... maybe I'm just out of touch but I'm confused as to why some seem to put so much stock in "The Verge". I checked their web site and four of their top five rated devices were Apple. Wouldn't this indicate that they were, at least slightly, biased towards Apple?

According to their review of the iPhone 4S, the reviewer "found the battery performance of the phone to be impressive".

iPhone 4S review | The Verge

Isn't this the same model phone that Apple has determined to have serious battery drain issues?

I have to admit that before seeing "The Verge" mentioned in a few of the threads in this sub-forum I had never heard of them. And after reading a few of their reviews I'm just not all that impressed...

Oh well... maybe it's just me!

The 4S battery being impressive does void them of any cred.
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Hopefully we won't see many people mention the 3G/4G flip-flopping issue prevalent on the Bionic. I saw it mentioned in one review so far and don't want to see it become a trend. Instead of being between a rock and a hard place, I'm stuck between any issues that show up on the RAZR and growing old waiting for the Galaxy Nexus. If only the Rezound were to have stellar battery life (I can't even type that with a straight face), I'd take it over both phones.
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Another in-depth, detailed, well written review. From Laptopmag -

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Hopefully we won't see many people mention the 3G/4G flip-flopping issue prevalent on the Bionic. I saw it mentioned in one review so far and don't want to see it become a trend. Instead of being between a rock and a hard place, I'm stuck between any issues that show up on the RAZR and growing old waiting for the Galaxy Nexus. If only the Rezound were to have stellar battery life (I can't even type that with a straight face), I'd take it over both phones.
I'm also watching out for 3G/4G hand off or data drop issue as well as battery performance. Those are most troublesome parts on most LTE phones this year.

But I don't expect Rezound to be good on battery. It would be the worst actually, IMO. Combination of Sense + 1620mAh + 1.5ghz S3 snapdragon + (qualcomm LTE like Tbolt ?) just doesn't bode well for good battery life.
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Yeah, HTC shot themselves in the foot with that one. Even if they'd included an 1800mAh battery, it wouldn't have fared well. At least Motorola is trying with their battery-saving apps, though I'm not liking how the battery life reviews are coming so far. I'll be keeping an eye out for updated reviews, particularly from users who have tried to condition the battery first.
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OK... maybe I'm just out of touch but I'm confused as to why some seem to put so much stock in "The Verge". I checked their web site and four of their top five rated devices were Apple. Wouldn't this indicate that they were, at least slightly, biased towards Apple?

According to their review of the iPhone 4S, the reviewer "found the battery performance of the phone to be impressive".

iPhone 4S review | The Verge

Isn't this the same model phone that Apple has determined to have serious battery drain issues?

I have to admit that before seeing "The Verge" mentioned in a few of the threads in this sub-forum I had never heard of them. And after reading a few of their reviews I'm just not all that impressed...

Oh well... maybe it's just me!
Well said. The problem with such reviewers, is that their right hand is bigger than their left...
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Yeah, HTC shot themselves in the foot with that one. Even if they'd included an 1800mAh battery, it wouldn't have fared well. At least Motorola is trying with their battery-saving apps, though I'm not liking how the battery life reviews are coming so far. I'll be keeping an eye out for updated reviews, particularly from users who have tried to condition the battery first.
I haven't read through all those early reviews yet. So what do they feel on Razr battery? Similar or worse than Bionic?
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The majority of the reviewers seem to indicate that the battery life could be better, but I don't think many people did a significant amount of battery-specific tests or had the phone for multiple days to really tell. Some add that the phone heats up a lot, but i question that considering CK played with one for 45 minutes running it through its paces and didn't really experience that much.
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The majority of the reviewers seem to indicate that the battery life could be better, but I don't think many people did a significant amount of battery-specific tests or had the phone for multiple days to really tell. Some add that the phone heats up a lot, but i question that considering CK played with one for 45 minutes running it through its paces and didn't really experience that much.
We probably need to wait week at least for them to properly test battery life. But early indications seem not bad.

The heat coming through screen is probably the screen heat plus the processor, radio heat as the kevlar back surface is good heat insulator. So it's only dissipated toward screen and sides.
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Only reviews I pay more attention to than most is Phone Arena and Anandtech. Anandtech especially, especially for battery life. So patiently awaiting Anandtech's review.

lol@ The Verge and iPhone 4S battery life...wow...lol And so many ppl put alot of stock in those folks that left Engadget and started their own site. Nilay does do some good break downs of the patent lawsuits tho, even if I dont agree with his opinion at times.
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We probably need to wait week at least for them to properly test battery life. But early indications seem not bad.

The heat coming through screen is probably the screen heat plus the processor, radio heat as the kevlar back surface is good heat insulator. So it's only dissipated toward screen and sides.
So if watching the movie Volcano, it would be sensavision I do recall saying that with a 1.2ghz 4430, LTE and thin design the Kevlar could be meant as an oven mitt. Might not have been a joke afterall.
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Here's what the Verge said about the SGSII's screen. No I am not making this up....


"Next to phones like the Droid X2 or AT&T’s own Motorola Atrix 2, the GSII’s display doesn’t hold up."

I mean that is just laugh out loud wrong lol. They serious over there?


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Here's what the Verge said about the SGSII's screen. No I am not making this up....


"Next to phones like the Droid X2 or AT&T’s own Motorola Atrix 2, the GSII’s display doesn’t hold up."

I mean that is just laugh out loud wrong lol. They serious over there?


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I think he was talking about one attribute rather than as a whole. I agree that the DX2 looks sharper and the SGS2 looks blurry in comparison, but beer has damaged my senses. Added: I thought The Verge was a syntho alternate band... Sorry, thinking of The Verve.
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I think he was talking about one attribute rather than as a whole. I agree that the DX2 looks sharper and the SGS2 looks blurry in comparison, but beer has damaged my senses. Added: I thought The Verge was a syntho alternate band... Sorry, thinking of The Verve.
But that, I think, is the problem with sites like "The Verge"! They make blanket statements which may only be partially/marginally factual. People see their reviews, recognize that they came from Engadget, and instantly believe that they know what they are talking about. In many of the examples cited in this forum about them today, I think it's apparent that they are simply offering opinions that are focused towards their personal preferences.

To say that the screen on a phone is poor, they really need to detail out exactly why that screen is poor and provide examples of how other screens are better. They can't just select one attribute... they need to provide as many test points/comparisons as possible. This is about the only way to accurately substantiate their claim. Otherwise it's merely opinion. Just as these words are my opinion.
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But that, I think, is the problem with sites like "The Verge"! They make blanket statements which may only be partially/marginally factual. People see their reviews, recognize that they came from Engadget, and instantly believe that they know what they are talking about. In many of the examples cited in this forum about them today, I think it's apparent that they are simply offering opinions that are focused towards their personal preferences.

To say that the screen on a phone is poor, they really need to detail out exactly why that screen is poor and provide examples of how other screens are better. They can't just select one attribute... they need to provide as many test points/comparisons as possible. This is about the only way to accurately substantiate their claim. Otherwise it's merely opinion. Just as these words are my opinion.

The only opinion that counts is the person who spends $299 or better yet $649 on the phone in question...

Otherwise...its just someone elses opinion that your listening too.
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As for review site; there are two GSMArena and Mobile-review. These are sites I have always rea d reviews on and even Engadget is not as good as the two.
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The only opinion that counts is the person who spends $299 or better yet $649 on the phone in question...

Otherwise...its just someone elses opinion that your listening too.
Or better yet? Nah... even if you pay 1 penny for a phone your opinion is still the only one that truly matters... Well except if your spouce decides to offer their opinion!
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Or better yet? Nah... even if you pay 1 penny for a phone your opinion is still the only one that truly matters... Well except if your spouce decides to offer their opinion!

Yesssssssss...The famous Spouse opinion!
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Anandtech reviews are very technical and have virtually no subjectivity. They even include teardowns for some of their reviews. They will probably have a take on the display quality but they usually will layout the facts and the reviewer will give his/her take on it and probably compare it to the iPhone.
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More reviews have surfaced!

IntoMobile - Motorola Droid Razr review: Is being thin enough?

PCMag - Motorola Droid RAZR (Verizon Wireless) Review & Rating | PCMag.com

Smarthouse - http://smarthouse.com.au/Reviews/Phones/P4E2G3S3
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Interesting tidbit I just found in the PCMag review:

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The phone has 8GB of internal memory and comes with a 16GB MicroSD card installed in a convenient slot on the side; it read our 32GB SanDisk memory card, but not our 64GB card.
No support for SDXC (not that I was expecting that there would be)...
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Ughhhhhhh...

PC mag gives the camera a thumbs down.

I really hope theses were maybe early models, because after the Bionic fiasco, the Razr should have a kick ass camera.
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Another in-depth, detailed, well written excellent review of the Razr.

Droid RAZR Review | Ubergizmo
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And the reviews keep coming in!

DailyMobile - http://dailymobile.se/2011/11/07/motorola-razr-hardware-and-software-review/

PCAdvisor - http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/mobile-phone/3317119/motorola-droid-razr-review/

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Ughhhhhhh...

PC mag gives the camera a thumbs down.

I really hope theses were maybe early models, because after the Bionic fiasco, the Razr should have a kick ass camera.
Don't know why anyone would expect anything else from Moto. It's cameras have always been lack luster starting with the original Droid.
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Don't know why anyone would expect anything else from Moto. It's cameras have always been lack luster starting with the original Droid.

Because times are changing...rather quickly!

Even HTC who was never known to make good cameras has stepped it up and put very good shooters on the Amaze and Rezound...

Think back...even Apple at one time was not know for great cameras! Now after the 4 and 4s, they are always mentioned in good phone camera articles and reviews.
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The only opinion that counts is the person who spends $299 or better yet $649 on the phone in question...

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Or better yet? Nah... even if you pay 1 penny for a phone your opinion is still the only one that truly matters... Well except if your spouce decides to offer their opinion!
i wholeheartedly agree that the only "opinion" that really matters is your own, since your phone has to fit your needs, and everyone has different needs and preferences.

but, imo, reviews from tech sites provide a little more objective reviews of a device simply because they haven't plunked down their personal hard-earned money for the device. when people who have paid $250, $300, or $600+ for a phone, subconsciously (not intentionally) they may want to justify their purchase. therefore, their reviews may be skewed.

i listen to and consider everyone's reviews - users' and tech sites', alike - before making a decision. and, i do think tech sites provide some valuable, semi-objective evaluations of devices.
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but, imo, reviews from tech sites provide a little more objective reviews of a device simply because they haven't plunked down their personal hard-earned money for the device. when people who have paid $250, $300, or $600+ for a phone, subconsciously (not intentionally) they may want to justify their purchase. therefore, their reviews may be skewed.
I agree with you... to an extent!

Unfortunately there are a number of high profile and rather, er, biased blog sites out there. Several, for example, tend to be rather Apple-centric so most non-Apple devices automatically get panned by them (for one reason or another).
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I agree with you... to an extent!

Unfortunately there are a number of high profile and rather, er, biased blog sites out there. Several, for example, tend to be rather Apple-centric so most non-Apple devices automatically get panned by them (for one reason or another).
i definitely agree with that! ...which is why i said "semi-objective" when describing them. i should have been more clear; but, we're on the same wavelength!
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The only opinion that counts is the person who spends $299 or better yet $649 on the phone in question...
Uh, yeah - I was thinking of trading my DroidX for one of these - until I saw the price! Holy crap, this thing ought to drive my truck, wash the dishes and do laundry for that much money! Think I'll wait until March when I'm eligible to upgrade, and who know what they'll have out new by then.
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phonescoop review; not overly positive:

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=9265


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ZDNet - Motorola Droid RAZR: Not quite thin enough to cut metal (review) | ZDNet

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IBNLive - Review: Motorola revives Razr name with smartphone - Tech News - IBNLive

The way i see it, reviews are mixed to say the least. Not overly positive, but not overly negative either. So far a LOT of reviews mentioning poor battery life and uncomfortable to hold.
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Well, I am sorry to disappoint many of you but the Motorola RAZR is over valued by many of you. I have bought one 3 days back, but I can not live with its very short life battery as well with it heating up from other things it lag behind the Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE so I went and exchanged with the Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE, although it does not look as pretty it worked better for me. I have further put my own first hand comparison between the two device at: Motorola RAZR vs Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE on Rogers

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No offense, but I can't take a review seriously when it's filled with tonnes of spelling and grammatical errors.
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ZDNet - Motorola Droid RAZR: Not quite thin enough to cut metal (review) | ZDNet

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IBNLive - Review: Motorola revives Razr name with smartphone - Tech News - IBNLive

The way i see it, reviews are mixed to say the least. Not overly positive, but not overly negative either. So far a LOT of reviews mentioning poor battery life and uncomfortable to hold.

What I'm getting is that the battery is ehhh! But I mean seriously, the phone is about as thin as a quarter, powerful and hasn't had time to spend a week going through charging patterns. Plus the not putting it down and playing with it non stop thing can't help either...

A week after release we'll get a better idea of just how good, or just how bad the battery is...

If it is bad....boy oh boy is there gonna be trouble in paradise. If that's the case people will 100% opt for the better displayed phone in the Rezound because of the use of a removable battery...and the GNex will pick up alot of hype and steam again.
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