The reviews are very different from one another but all seem positive to a degree, apart from a couple of issues. So what do people think? Still getting one?
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One thing I have always hated about Samsung AMOLED and SAMOLED displays is the obnoxiously overblown colors due to Samsung's proprietary DNIe software. They use it for all their displays and its just downright annoying. I as hoping that Motorola would have more natural colors on their SAMOLED and it seems from the reviews that is the case. This makes me extremely happy and makes me want the RAZR even more.
Only if you root. I shouldn't have to root a phone with 1gb ram and a dual core processor because it lags. Sorry no excuse for that, sgs2 does not lag with touchwiz.
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Only if you root. I shouldn't have to root a phone with 1gb ram and a dual core processor because it lags. Sorry no excuse for that, sgs2 does not lag with touchwiz.
The only one that said it lagged clearly stated it was pre-production software. Also I have an SGS2 and it clearly lags at times. No Android phone running a skin is lag free yet.
Only if you root. I shouldn't have to root a phone with 1gb ram and a dual core processor because it lags. Sorry no excuse for that, sgs2 does not lag with touchwiz.
What exactly have you achieved with this post?
I am not telling you to root, it is an android community and people in general like playing with their devices. If the only thing you are after speed of the UI only get an iPhone.
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I am not telling you to root, it is an android community and people in general like playing with their devices. If the only thing you are after speed of the UI only get an iPhone.
Speed of the UI isn't. What I am saying is you shouldn't be satisfied with a phone and lag. Sorry that offended you since this is the perfect phone and nobody else can voice their concerns with the phone. smh
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I dunno Redraider i can kinda see what Szadzik means. No offense but i hop around the boards as well and it seems that anything that isn't Samsung or the Nexus is crap lol. Hell the phones aren't even out yet.
It could be Moto or the new HTC phones. Every single phone you comment on something is wrong with it unless it's a Samsung. I own a Charge and let me tell you what a pos that is lol.
Not trying to attack you man and your right everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I am just saying i can see what Szadzik means because almost every post you make about any phone is negative unless it's the Nexus.
Speed of the UI isn't. What I am saying is you shouldn't be satisfied with a phone and lag. Sorry that offended you since this is the perfect phone and nobody else can voice their concerns with the phone. smh
I am not saying do not voice your concerns, but at the same time, do not expect perfect devices to ever come out of the box. They do not exist and never will.
If you want a perfect device, buy what is right for you and tweak it to make it perfect. That is why I have an Android phone and not an iPhone, because I CAN tweak it and adjust it and install home launchers, change appearance and everything else I want. If you are not willing to do that and expect perfection, prepare to always be disappointed - like I was with the GNex.
I am not saying do not voice your concerns, but at the same time, do not expect perfect devices to ever come out of the box. They do not exist and never will.
If you want a perfect device, buy what is right for you and tweak it to make it perfect. That is why I have an Android phone and not an iPhone, because I CAN tweak it and adjust it and install home launchers, change appearance and everything else I want. If you are not willing to do that and expect perfection, prepare to always be disappointed - like I was with the GNex.
I never said perfect phone. Like you said no phone is perfect and will never be out of the box.
One of the reviews definetely was pre-production software, so you can't expect 100% fully working order can you? Hopefully there will be more reviews to come from Down Under.
I am not telling you to root, it is an android community and people in general like playing with their devices. If the only thing you are after speed of the UI only get an iPhone.
Actually, if the Razr does lag due to Blur, seems a fair perspective, but iPhone lags too, so not an improvement. ALL current phones lag in some form or fashion.
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The only one that said it lagged clearly stated it was pre-production software. Also I have an SGS2 and it clearly lags at times. No Android phone running a skin is lag free yet.
I see you are on verizon, so which SGSII do you have? I only saw videos but also had play with AT&T one at store, and man SGSII is really blast in UI speed and can't think any other phone close to it. I mean in UI speed and browser.
Though his tone is somewhat argumentative, he has point on Blur causing some lag. Also I heard Razr has webtop like Bionic, so that might take up some resource too. So I think there is some room for Moto to refine it further.
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Actually, if the Razr does lag due to Blur, seems a fair perspective, but iPhone lags too, so not an improvement. ALL current phones lag in some form or fashion.
I only posted that because RR1 seemed so concerned about the lag. I do not care about lag at all as all the reviews only showed the crappy Blur launcher and the first hing I will be doing will be installing LPP - which in no way compares to the stock.
You guys want to talk about lag, try living with Droid Eris for the last two years.
I dont know how I got thru it with that phone, cant wait for Friday so I can bury the Eris. Just like the scene from Office Space with the printer
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FWIW as far as synthetic scores, the Droid 3 has the same chip at 1ghz and scores range from 2350 to 2460. Score seems low for 1.2ghz, but you never know with synthetic BMs. Then again, both devices have the same gpu clock so maybe Quadrant weighs more heavily.
I only posted that because RR1 seemed so concerned about the lag. I do not care about lag at all as all the reviews only showed the crappy Blur launcher and the first hing I will be doing will be installing LPP - which in no way compares to the stock.
Good point. I like Blur on the D3, so makes me odd.... er, more odd than usual
You guys want to talk about lag, try living with Droid Eris for the last two years.
I dont know how I got thru it with that phone, cant wait for Friday so I can bury the Eris. Just like the scene from Office Space with the printer
I had an eris and that thing used to be terrible to use. You couldn't even send a text without it being 3-4 letters behind. I feel bad for you but less than a week
I had an eris and that thing used to be terrible to use. You couldn't even send a text without it being 3-4 letters behind. I feel bad for you but less than a week
Exactly! pathetic phone but now the wait is almost over! Unless of VZW runs out Razr on the first day. gulp
Seems the reviews say it is too wide for anyone that got to hold one how did it feel in hand? Also I wonder why they couldn't have made it closer to the size of current 4.3 inch phones?
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I see you are on verizon, so which SGSII do you have? I only saw videos but also had play with AT&T one at store, and man SGSII is really blast in UI speed and can't think any other phone close to it. I mean in UI speed and browser.
Though his tone is somewhat argumentative, he has point on Blur causing some lag. Also I heard Razr has webtop like Bionic, so that might take up some resource too. So I think there is some room for Moto to refine it further.
International version. Its a good device don't get me wrong, it just has moments of lag just like any other skinned Android phone.
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Seems the reviews say it is too wide for anyone that got to hold one how did it feel in hand? Also I wonder why they couldn't have made it closer to the size of current 4.3 inch phones?
Its that wide to spread out internals to keep the thin profile.
Gotcha. Think they could have made it a little thicker and not as wide but hey thats just me.
It should not really matter whether it is thick and narrow or thin and wide.
What matters is the overall length from where the screen ends on one side of the phone to where the screen starts on the other.
In Razr's case the length is 7.1+7.1+68.9=83mm of what you grab.
SGSII is 8.5+8.5+66.1=83.1
To see what I am talking about take a narrow phone that is very thick and hold it in your hand and you will see it does not feel great - like my JCB Tough Phone.
The Good:
It's fast, it's thin, it's got a gorgeous high-resolution display, and it's running the most recent version of Android available (at least for a few more weeks). Motorola has already promised an update to Ice Cream Sandwich. Good camera, and has Verizon 4G LTE data.
The Bad:
May be too large for some; is about the widest phone we've used. Battery can't be removed. Full of preloaded apps that you might or might not actually want.
Conclusion:
Yet another "best-of" phone for Verizon. But the Droid RAZR's size could be a bit much for some, and we've got real concerns about not being able to swap out the battery for a fresh one when needed.
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Wrap up:
So has Motorola succeeded in reclaiming the prestige that once belonged to the RAZR brand? Unequivocally, yes -- the handset is just physically stunning. It's thinner than almost any phone on the market and makes no sacrifices to attain its slim physique. It's solidly constructed from premium materials like diamond-cut aluminum, Gorilla Glass and a sheet of super-slick Kevlar. Few phones out there can even be put in the same category when it comes to build quality. It's not the most ergonomically sound handset on the market, but for those who cherish form over function (the very targets of a so-called fashion device), that's a sacrifice worth making.
Don't get us wrong -- the RAZR's beauty is not only skin deep. The LTE radio, 1.2GHz dual-core processor and 1GB of RAM make sure this sleek number is ready to run with the big boys. It kept pace with, and in some cases clearly outclassed its high-end competition. Despite its deficiencies in the display department and underwhelming battery life, the RAZR looks to be a perfectly viable alternative when considering the similarly-pricey Rezound and Galaxy Nexus, but we'll have to wait for our full reviews of those devices to say for sure. And don't forget: this one will only get better when ICS comes to Moto's slim slab of sexy.
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Can't listen to Engadget! They're such Apple suckers....
What on earth we're they expecting from battery life? A full day with web browsing, calls, text, etc... And still going strong?
And that's not good enough...lol to that!
Maybe they haven't heard of LTE ...
So is the Droid RAZR worth Motorola’s marketing blitz? Is it the phone to get? Well, probably not. While the hardware engineering required to stuff the internals of the Bionic into the thinnest smartphone design on the market is nothing short of amazing, the compromise on display quality needed to get there simply isn’t worth it.
Can't listen to Engadget! They're such Apple suckers....
I would consider them quite the opposite in fact. I've been reading engadget for a long time and they are pretty fair when it comes to coverage of different mobile platforms. Gizmodo on the other hand like to write articles about the tiniest little bit of news from Apple.
I`m a little disappointed about the camera, but it`s not a deal breaker to me. The Canadian version of the RAZR does not have LTE, so battery issues won`t be a problem. The phone is on sale in Canada starting today, so i`m going to check it out now. If i really like it, then i`ll buy it today.
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In my best Cartman accent, "hmmm looks like my concerns about heat & battery life may be correct". Usually media reviews do not pick this up so soon and actual owners do.
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In my best Cartman accent, "hmmm looks like my concerns about heat & battery life may be correct". Usually media reviews do not pick this up so soon and actual owners do.
Or maybe it was just an issue with one phone...
I don't recall seeing the same complaint on other reviews. Of course I could have missed it. Has this complaint been cropping up consistently on the other reviews?
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In my best Cartman accent, "hmmm looks like my concerns about heat & battery life may be correct". Usually media reviews do not pick this up so soon and actual owners do.
Used the phone for 45 minutes. Downloading from market, madden football, watched video, texted, emailed, shot pics/video etc etc. Heat is not an issue. Most of the heat is generated by the screen btw.
Those were my findings.
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Well, I'm getting sick of waiting for SGN, and was reading up on some of the reviews for RAZR to see if it's a fallback option, but no dice. The Verge says display sucks, again. I don't know why Moto doesn't think that a screen and a camera are important to a phone. If it gets awesome call quality but the screen and shooter suck, that doesn't seem like a good tradeoff.
The amount of reviewers that are complaining about the non-removable battery, jeezo! Were they saying the same thing when the iPhone 4/4S was released?
So which out of all the reviews posted here so far have been the most positive and which have been downright negative?
I'm going to wait until GSMArena and TechRadar post their reviews.
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The amount of reviewers that are complaining about the non-removable battery, jeezo! Were they saying the same thing when the iPhone 4/4S was released?
So which out of all the reviews posted here so far have been the most positive and which have been downright negative?
I'm going to wait until GSMArena and TechRadar post their reviews.
From what I've read the review from The Verge is by far the harshest and IMHO, the most one-sided of the bunch. I'd have to say that the BGR review seems to be the most positive.
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OK... maybe I'm just out of touch but I'm confused as to why some seem to put so much stock in "The Verge". I checked their web site and four of their top five rated devices were Apple. Wouldn't this indicate that they were, at least slightly, biased towards Apple?
According to their review of the iPhone 4S, the reviewer "found the battery performance of the phone to be impressive".
Isn't this the same model phone that Apple has determined to have serious battery drain issues?
I have to admit that before seeing "The Verge" mentioned in a few of the threads in this sub-forum I had never heard of them. And after reading a few of their reviews I'm just not all that impressed...
Oh well... maybe it's just me!
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