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Old April 1st, 2012, 12:54 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I would guess since this will be a large update that doing a reset will be the best course of action. But I do not know the official stance, seeing as nothing official has been said that we are even getting an update....

would you reset it, then update, or update it then reset?

or doesnt it matter?

i hate restoring apps and widgets...
oh, would you have to do a battery "calibration" again discharge it until it shuts off and recharge back to 100%?

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Running ICS right now! Man it's fast and smooth still has all the Bloatware and blur but it really works perfect. Blur adds some of the functions and cosmetic accents that ICS doesn't have but should making it unique. I liked blur on GB so I luv it on ICS.

This phone was already bad ass now its perfect. No phone can touch it now, iPhone, Gnex, SGS2 can't compare to the RAZR.
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would you reset it, then update, or update it then reset?

or doesnt it matter?

i hate restoring apps and widgets...
oh, would you have to do a battery "calibration" again discharge it until it shuts off and recharge back to 100%?

Personally, I am going to wipe everything, then update. I've never really had issues like others with my battery and have never felt the need for the battery calibration. The setup will help more than calibrating, in my opinion. I know many will not agree but I've done it in the past and it was never helpful for me. Ymmv.
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i just got emailed for the soak test and in it says that if rooted you need to return to 100% stock and if not they still would like you to do a reset. So I guess that they would like every one to do a reset before update.

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i just got emailed for the soak test and in it says that if rooted you need to return to 100% stock and if not they still would like you to do a reset. So I guess that they would like every one to do a reset before update.

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They just want to make sure any problems that come up in the soak test are actually problems with their software, and not caused by something getting borked in the update. Still, it is always a good idea to do a factory reset after every major update.
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Old April 1st, 2012, 11:28 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Lol "do not post any information about this on public forums"
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Old April 1st, 2012, 11:36 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Lol "do not post any information about this on public forums"
yeah i know but im not the first... and someone already posted a leak of the rom over on droidrzr.com and if i dont hear back from them then i only have three days till the real update.
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Oh I know and to me it's no big deal, I'm glad you shared. I just find it funny to think that they expect everyone to keep mum...
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Old April 1st, 2012, 11:51 AM   #59 (permalink)
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yeah and when you give them your info they really check every thing i have had the same (329) call my max and home phone number. im just hate waiting for the email saying im it
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^I agree. Moto added some stuff to ics that makes it a lil better imo. The lock screen is one, and a screen shot I saw showed the phone and data reception in the about screen. I don't know if stock ics does that.
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For those only smart enough to turn the phone on, I have a question. I ordered my phone on Fri and hope to have it next week. If this ICS is a reality, then should I install it on my phone before I take it to Verizon to have all my info moved over from my Thunderbolt? Thanks
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For those only smart enough to turn the phone on, I have a question. I ordered my phone on Fri and hope to have it next week. If this ICS is a reality, then should I install it on my phone before I take it to Verizon to have all my info moved over from my Thunderbolt? Thanks
That is what I would do as many people do a hard reset after updates.
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Personally, I am going to wipe everything, then update. I've never really had issues like others with my battery and have never felt the need for the battery calibration. The setup will help more than calibrating, in my opinion. I know many will not agree but I've done it in the past and it was never helpful for me. Ymmv.

This is probably a dumb question, but im assuming by wipe everything you mean your doing a factory reset then doing the update from the settings menu?
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This is probably a dumb question, but im assuming by wipe everything you mean your doing a factory reset then doing the update from the settings menu?
I do believe so.
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Nope! ICS is on its way and it's so delicious!
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This is probably a dumb question, but im assuming by wipe everything you mean your doing a factory reset then doing the update from the settings menu?
Yes that is one of the best ways i know how to reset to 100% stock.
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But is there a root exploit?
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But is there a root exploit?
people have said root keeper has worked for them others have had no luck.
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With some help from XDA forums and Cheesecake you can get ICS NOW. As you can see from my screen shot. I would try downloading this and post pics as I go but right now i dont have any wifi near me to download the 458.5 MB update

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Hey guys,

I have a quick question for you. I'm 100% stock and rooted. I've never uninstalled or froze any system apps. I do however have bootstrap installed. I've uninstalled it before on my droid x before any system update occurred but recently researched doing so on the razr. It was then I discovered individuals having problems with bootloops after doing so. I presume its the same process as the x, will the ics update take if i do not uninstall it? Thanks very much for sharing your aquired wisdom.

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I have a quick question for you. I'm 100% stock and rooted. I've never uninstalled or froze any system apps. I do however have bootstrap installed. I've uninstalled it before on my droid x before any system update occurred but recently researched doing so on the razr. It was then I discovered individuals having problems with bootloops after doing so. I presume its the same process as the x, will the ics update take if i do not uninstall it? Thanks very much for sharing your aquired wisdom.

I just backed up all my app and was going to do a hard reset then reroot so its 100% stock then see if i can keep the root with root keeper from the play store. If it keeps my root then I would restore my apps from titanium backup
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This is probably a dumb question, but im assuming by wipe everything you mean your doing a factory reset then doing the update from the settings menu?
I have had better success with doing a factory reset before a major update. I left my phone as is and did the update only to have many many problems. The next phone I had I did a factory reset then updated and had no issues. May be a coincidence but why risk it? Know what I mean. I have unrooted already(everything was still stock but unrooted non the less) and will factory reset before taking the update.
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My own personal experience (updating to Gingerbread on my Incredible, and updating to v.2.3.6 on my Maxx) I've had sluggish performance after updating, and greatly improved performance all around AFTER doing a factory reset after a major update.

Again, just my experience.
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Bottom line....at some point...do a factory reset....lol.
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Bottom line....at some point...do a factory reset....lol.
Exactly... and i guess you cant get the beta ics any more . Motorola took it down after a spike in downloads in the system.
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Weird.
On a whim this morning I checked About Phone > System updates and got "Check for updates is not available at this time. Try again later" Later I tried, and it is stayed on "Checking for available update. Please wait..." I backed out, tried again, and got the :Check for updates is not available at this time. Try again later."
Wonder if it had anything to do with the soak tests?
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All you folks talking about when to do a factory reset for a clean install- As a former crack flasher of a few different phones, The BEST course of action for wiping and having a good clean install of the new software is to reset (wipe) BEFORE you install the update. It will get rid of any crap that may be on your phone that may hinder the install. If you are very anal, after it boots for the first time updated, wipe it again (but IMO this won't do much.)
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Weird.
On a whim this morning I checked About Phone > System updates and got "Check for updates is not available at this time. Try again later" Later I tried, and it is stayed on "Checking for available update. Please wait..." I backed out, tried again, and got the :Check for updates is not available at this time. Try again later."
Wonder if it had anything to do with the soak tests?
If you had any thing to do with the beta testing you would have got emailed and have to sign up for it from motorola website. Also the only way the phone has been able to look for update is on wifi im not sure why but i get that same error on 3G or 4G
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Hey, all! I just got my Maxx a couple weeks ago, and love it. I took the plunge and rooted it last weekend using Batman's supremely awesome toolkit (right before seeing the news about the potential ICS 4/4 update, of course). I haven't done anything other than restore some TiBu apps from my previous phone and make some new backups, thinking I'd just keep it as close to stock as possible and just un-root to grab the OTA. I did install the Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, as well, though I've never really used it before.

Obviously, I'm extremely interested in getting the ICS update, so I wanted to be crystal clear on how this works. It seems there may be two ways to upgrade:

Option #1
1. using Rootkeeper, perform a temporary un-root
2. allow the ICS OTA to download and install
3. using Rootkeeper, perform the restore of root

Option #2
1. un-root using Batman's toolkit
2. allow the ICS OTA to download and install

Questions I'm wondering about:
1. At what point(s) should I do a factory reset as others in this thread have recommended? Just once after un-rooting and before downloading the OTA?
2. Is there any reason to think that (with as little as I've done while rooted) after un-rooting I would have any trouble getting the ICS OTA?
3. Does anyone know if there is a way to re-root after ICS is operational? Is the Voodoo Rootkeeper my best shot to retain rooted privileges for things like TiBu?

Thanks in advance for the guidance!
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Hey, all! I just got my Maxx a couple weeks ago, and love it. I took the plunge and rooted it last weekend using Batman's supremely awesome toolkit (right before seeing the news about the potential ICS 4/4 update, of course). I haven't done anything other than restore some TiBu apps from my previous phone and make some new backups, thinking I'd just keep it as close to stock as possible and just un-root to grab the OTA. I did install the Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, as well, though I've never really used it before.

Obviously, I'm extremely interested in getting the ICS update, so I wanted to be crystal clear on how this works. It seems there may be two ways to upgrade:

Option #1
1. using Rootkeeper, perform a temporary un-root
2. allow the ICS OTA to download and install
3. using Rootkeeper, perform the restore of root

Option #2
1. un-root using Batman's toolkit
2. allow the ICS OTA to download and install

Questions I'm wondering about:
1. At what point(s) should I do a factory reset as others in this thread have recommended? Just once after un-rooting and before downloading the OTA?
2. Is there any reason to think that (with as little as I've done while rooted) after un-rooting I would have any trouble getting the ICS OTA?
3. Does anyone know if there is a way to re-root after ICS is operational? Is the Voodoo Rootkeeper my best shot to retain rooted privileges for things like TiBu?

Thanks in advance for the guidance!
I was going to do Option #1 but add a few steps

(Back Up apps with titanium back)

1.) Reset Phone
2.) reroot
3.) using Rootkeeper, perform a temporary un-root
4.) allow the ICS OTA to download and install
5.) using Rootkeeper, perform the restore of root
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I'm Glad ICS is finally coming, but what is a Factory Reset?

My phone is the same as the day i got it, I haven't rooted or anything still using the motoblur and the rest. Now I have some apps that i downloaded and some i paid for. If i factory reset will i lose all that and have to pay for them again?

Do I even need to do a Factory Reset if i haven't rooted my phone?
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I'm Glad ICS is finally coming, but what is a Factory Reset?

My phone is the same as the day i got it, I haven't rooted or anything still using the motoblur and the rest. Now I have some apps that i downloaded and some i paid for. If i factory reset will i lose all that and have to pay for them again?

Do I even need to do a Factory Reset if i haven't rooted my phone?

You don't NEED to do a factory reset, but it is advised.

A factory reset wipes the phone back to to completely stock, removing all the apps and data you had on the phone. Like reinstalling windows on your computer (assuming you choose to overwrite everything). You will have to sign into your google account and reinstall everything. Assuming you signed into the same google account with market (err, google play store) you can just download your paid apps again.
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I'm Glad ICS is finally coming, but what is a Factory Reset?

My phone is the same as the day i got it, I haven't rooted or anything still using the motoblur and the rest. Now I have some apps that i downloaded and some i paid for. If i factory reset will i lose all that and have to pay for them again?

Do I even need to do a Factory Reset if i haven't rooted my phone?
After a factory reset you should easily be able to redownload your purchased apps in the Play store under "My Apps" when you hit settings. I would recommend a Factory Reset rooted or not. You would do that under settings>Privacy>Factory Data Reset.

It will erase everything on your internal storage and revert you back to the first day setup.
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does it matter whether you erase internal storage? i would rather not. or sd card.
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Don't hold me to this, but a factory reset shouldn't wipe the internal sd... It definitely doesn't wipe the external sd card. If you are worried, just copy it to your desktop before you wipe, then replace it after.... Then you won't lose it.
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I just looked at it and it looks like is will wipe everything in the internal and if you want to you can/could wipe the external sd if you want to.
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Don't hold me to this, but a factory reset shouldn't wipe the internal sd... It definitely doesn't wipe the external sd card. If you are woried, just copy it to your desktop before you wipe, then replace it after.... Then you won't lose it.
ha thanks. if you go into the factory data reset on the razr maxx there are options on whether you can erase internal storage and sd card. but i wouldn't think its really necessary.
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I feel as if the odds of us actually getting ICS tomorrow are kind of low, but I hope I'm wrong. I have no way to back that up..just a feeling. It's all so sudden.
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I'm with you but it sure would be nice to wake up in the morning with the update notice waiting for me!
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Ok, so they're supposed to start pushing the update tomorrow, but I still haven't heard yet when it might start. So here's a thought: how about folks start posting after you get it installed and can check the build to make sure it's 4.0. Also, include your city and state so we can figure where it's rolling out in quantity.
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You guys sure sound pretty confident. Wish I could share your excitement but frankly i've seen this a number of times with various updates with different phones. I've come to the conclusion of not counting my updates until they're hatched....err announced. I do like that feeling of knowing a big update is approaching though.
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Maybe BB meant the Soak Test starts on the 4th.
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I am of the mind it will be here soon, but I bet not tomorrow. I would guess in the next couple weeks or at least by the end of the month, if I were to speculate. I'm in no rush, I'd rather they do the soak and fix the bugs before it rolls out in grand scale.
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Ok, so they're supposed to start pushing the update tomorrow, but I still haven't heard yet when it might start. So here's a thought: how about folks start posting after you get it installed and can check the build to make sure it's 4.0. Also, include your city and state so we can figure where it's rolling out in quantity.
Sorry about this but LOCATION HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH OTA ROLL OUTS. NOTHING, NADA, ZIP, ZILTCH. It never has, it never will.
Lets say the server can update 1000 phones simultaneously. Would it make more sense to update 1000 phones in one area, completely saturating the local towers and trashing the network in that location, or pick phones on different towers in different locations so they don't overload any one tower? Doing it based on location is essentially choosing to crash each and every part of your network 1 place at a time.

To sum up, IT'S not going to roll out based on location, don't ASK about location, don't post "NOTHING HERE IN XXXXXX", it's just play not useful information. Hell it'd make more sense to send it out based on the astrological sign of the primary account holder. That'd atleast be a random load throughout the network.
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I am of the mind it will be here soon, but I bet not tomorrow. I would guess in the next couple weeks or at least by the end of the month, if I were to speculate. I'm in no rush, I'd rather they do the soak and fix the bugs before it rolls out in grand scale.
Agreed. If I'm desperate for ICS I can install a ROM. Verizon can hold onto it till they get it right.
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I never knew Htc did soak test?
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