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Old July 15th, 2012, 10:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I've got my Razr up and running under ICS but, in the excitement, porting over the WiFi keys from the old phone (Droid Incredible 2 - DINC2) fell through the cracks. And I really need some of those AP keys.

I raised the question in the DINC2 area here - it looks as though the only option is to root the DINC2 to get the needed file (using app WiFi Key Recovery), and then root the Razr to cram the file into the Razr. Rooting the DINC2 gets nastier because it will have to be downgraded in the process. And I haven't a clue as to what happens to a Razr with ICS. All in all, I really, really don't want to get into rooting.

The Verizon Backup tool refuses to fly on the DINC2 - it refuses to work via WiFi. The Google options related to back up don't seem to be saving the day, either. I should point out that, at the moment, the DINC2 and Razr are tied to the same Google account, which may well be a Bad Thing. So far, the only sign of conflict is both phones get email to the Google account (well duh!). As soon as the WiFi issue is sorted out, however, the DINC2 will go dark (factory data reset and off to eBay or Craigslist).

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Root required on the old phone: Wireless Passwords on Play Store.
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The old phone needs a downgrade to accept rooting. The betting is this will wipe the WiFi file I need (among other files). But even if the file survives, what's the deal on [the] Razr end? I assume that needs rooting, too, right?
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The old phone needs a downgrade to accept rooting. The betting is this will wipe the WiFi file I need (among other files). But even if the file survives, what's the deal on Razr end? I assume that needs rooting, too, right?
You are only looking for the keys, the app recommended above, will show them to you and you can enter them when needed.

Alternatively, there is also an app like this:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=aws.apps.wifiKeyRecovery&feature=search _result

I do not know if you even bothered searching Play Store, but finding it took me 5 seconds. It can export the list of APs and you can import it on the new phone. Will require root on both phones.

If you cannot root the curent phone, you are screwed.

And another app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dosdevs.wifibackup
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Well, actually, I did find that app. I haven't a clue as to what BUSYBOX is, so I took the developer's advice and stayed away.

The desired end state is the Razr has the same WiFi info as the DINC2 and otherwise looks box stock. If the problem reduced down to "only" becoming root long enough to grab a file off one machine and becoming root on another machine to deposit that file, I'd be all over it.

But the process seems to involve so many variables (e.g., does or doesn't rooting the DINC2 wipe the very file I'm after) and uncertainties (basically, the process seems to hinge on someone I have no knowledge of doing all sorts of potentially machine-breaking things on my phones and hoping they don't leave me with bricks), that I'd be stupid not to ask a lot of questions before I burn a lot of time and money making bricks.

BTW, I got really clever and even call VZW tech support about the issue. Surprise, surprise, the response was full of smoke and mirrors about NIC's and encryption and "can't be done." I even got (no lie!!) "I'm in tech support and even I couldn't do it when I switched phones." [/facepalm]
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If you don't want to root the phones can't you just ask for the passwords from the spots again? These are the type situations why I always Root my phones. Most think people do it so they can tether and not get charged extra. I find it is situations like this that benefit to rooting. I believe Verizon Backup only backs up contacts and now APPS. I don't believe it will back up stuff like this. Not sure though, this ICS does a lot more stuff than GB did.

BTW, you would really only have to root the old phone and use an app like WIFI Key Recovery. It would then show the key where you could write it down and manually enter it in your new phone. I went from the DINC not the DINC2 to the Razr. There is no known root method for the phone the way it sits now without downgrading to an older ROM?
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Well, actually, I did find that app. I haven't a clue as to what BUSYBOX is, so I took the developer's advice and stayed away.

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That is a Root utility app. Good plan to follow developers advice cause if you gotta ask........... Seriously though, you can do some reading here and other sites to learn about root. It really isn't as intimidating as it sounds. There are hold your hand step by step tutorials. This is what I have used on every Droid I have had to root. Also, with the exception of the added SuperUser app, my Razr looks bone stock. I didn't change anything else ROM wise.
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I've rooted a Dinc2 and it is a pretty pain in the neck task having to downgrade and all.

I recommend what one of the above users stated. Just get the required Access keys from the AP. I mean especially if one of them is your home internet. I have my access keys for my home internet stored in Drop box as a text file so i can retrieve it from wherever.
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Enough.

I decided to re-review the AP list on the DINC2. It's a list built during almost 18 months of road warrioring with the DINC2. I'll just have to bug some airport and hotel people for passwords again. The [home] keys are already in place and running.

"If they can put a man on the moon, you'd think they could swap password files, too."
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hmmmm i see where that would be frustrating.
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Doubly so because there are indications the AP info (names and keys) is port-able. I am paying the price for not investing in a full backup before heading off to the VZW store to activate the Razr. Duh...

Ah, well, done is done.
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Um...why don't you enter your passwords again? If it's your wifi, you should have no problem with that.
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Accessing the AP's here is no problem for me (for you, good luck!). It's the AP's and keys I've picked up in travels that are the problem. Some of those places I might not re-visit or, if they have any sense, the keys will be different when I return - the problem becomes moot. But some places (a local restaurant that I visit weekly, for example) will mean wading through finding the key all over ("gee, you mean the one printed on the menu won't work??", said the confused, non-tech server).

Again, having replace them is, I suppose, penance for not backing stuff up properly in the first place. You'd think I'd know better by now...

ADDED: Blackepoxy, in the DINC2 forum, suggested ES File Explorer for another issue (moving alarm MP3's), and I tried it on the /data file tree. Sigh... no root, no read. So much for that. OTOH, I did snag those MP3's, ES File Explorer is slicker than owl snot!
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The more I played with ES File Explorer, the more I found out about it. This is a must-have app.
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