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Old July 23rd, 2010, 06:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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YouTube - Apple - Smartphone Antenna Performance - Motorola Droid X

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Old July 23rd, 2010, 06:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What would you expect from the people who put antennas on the bottom of phones, and then give away free cases to make people 'feel reimbursed'

Also, don't they know what Verizon doesn't give them service at the Apple headquarts so they cant bum their interwebs off of our WiFi's?
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Default I think it's bogus...

I can't get my Droid X to drop a single bar holding it with two hands wrapped around the entire edges or trying to imitate how the video shows it being held.

I believe there are some other phones, android phones included, that could be effected, but I say this video's bogus unless someone else on this forum can replicate it.

I agree that Apple just seems desperate at this point!
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Don't think there is a need for band aids for the dx
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Just saying. . .
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It happened to my Droid X before I got a case on it. All phones do it. I'm glad Apple is stepping up and do this. The media just went nuts over nothing...
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Yeah I cannot replicate this with my X at all. Poor Apple...I think someone is jealous
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It happened to my Droid X before I got a case on it. All phones do it. I'm glad Apple is stepping up and do this. The media just went nuts over nothing...


NOTHING!?

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I bet it would be something to an owner of an apple.
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Full of lies, notice the disabled comments.
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NOTHING!?

lol

I bet it would be something to an owner of an apple.
Well, it was huge for Apple, but it was more or less blown out of proportion. Just like the Swine Flu that no one cares about. It was less deadly than the normal flu...

I guess my point is that all phones when in the right conditions will lose signal. The media attacked Apple before looking at other phones because Apple is a big target. Apple is showing off the same results with competitors. At least they have the decency to show the iPhone losing bars as well.
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Well, it was huge for Apple, but it was more or less blown out of proportion. Just like the Swine Flu that no one cares about. It was less deadly than the normal flu...

I guess my point is that all phones when in the right conditions will lose signal. The media attacked Apple before looking at other phones because Apple is a big target. Apple is showing off the same results with competitors. At least they have the decency to show the iPhone losing bars as well.
Well, I can put my pinkie on the Iphone bottom corner and loose all signal, the fact that the whole hand covering the phone to drop signal on the X just shows how dumb apple pr is. Btw, I don't loose full signal, only 2 bars with that kind of grip in the video, but again, I would never hold it like that anyway.
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Well, it was huge for Apple, but it was more or less blown out of proportion. Just like the Swine Flu that no one cares about. It was less deadly than the normal flu...

I guess my point is that all phones when in the right conditions will lose signal. The media attacked Apple before looking at other phones because Apple is a big target. Apple is showing off the same results with competitors. At least they have the decency to show the iPhone losing bars as well.
except the phones apple is showing dont have the problem...
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Looks like a little photoshopping ??

Notice apparently even verizon based phones don't have 3G when held by ATT techs

I live deep in the boonies and have 3G service and can't replicate this either
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What the hell Apple. Does anyone hold their phones that way while on a call with that "death grip"? Why doesn't Apple try to duplicate their problem while just using a pinky. Also... why is it that the Droid X in the video show no 3G or 1X? Has someone tampered with it or doctored the video? I think so.

I tried holding the phone that way in my hand and it feels so uncomfortable. I can't imagine anyone naturally holding a phone that way.

Apple is just sorely butt hurt from all the bad PR about their easily-duplicated antenna problem with just one pinky. Solution? Try to bring down the competitors with you.
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except the phones apple is showing dont have the problem...
The Droid X does. Mine lost bars when I held it like that prior to getting a case. I have big hands, so I often notice my phones losing signal because of my grip. I have seen a few other people mentioning that their Droid X's did the same.
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Well i must give it to apple,they called
out other phone makers and show signal bars being drop just so all the attention towards them is diverted but yes signals will drop on all cell phones but the difference with the iphone is its a reception problem they lose reception period its not about the signal bars a phone can still function without the bars visible.
 
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HTC, RIM and Nokia Challenge Apple's Antenna Claims

YouTube - iPhone Death Grip Tested on 7 New Handsets

Apple is really terrible at this
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i can put my droid x in a headlock in my armpit and still not lose a bar.

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strange!!! i cant get my droid x to drop anything when i held it, cover it, palm it....the bar remain the same.

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comments on engadget are almost 100% ANTI-APPLE. Love it.

One guy said something like this about the Droid X on engadget comments:

1. Death grip - check
2. Zero bars - check
3. Can you hear me now? - CHECK!

The video had an active call if you didn't notice. It never dropped.

The Apple video is clearly flawed. They were on a call. They were in probably an office (people moving in the background). They probably stuffed tinfoil on the back of the phone, or in the person's hand. There was no sound.

I also commented on this. My phone gets 2 bars of reception in my office. With their "grip" I now get 3 bars. So apple has given me a BENEFIT through this video!

It's sad to see Apple/Jobs responding like a 5 year old to their iphone hardware problem. History is repeating itself like jobs v1.0, he'll be ousted from Apple again.
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What I want to know is, How the hell is this guy holding the phone like that and presumably squeezing (notice how his fingers flex) and not push the camera button?!!! I cant replicate it because I can't keep the camera from coming on lol!
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What I want to know is, How the hell is this guy holding the phone like that and presumably squeezing (notice how his fingers flex) and not push the camera button?!!! I cant replicate it because I can't keep the camera from coming on lol!
It's the magical tinfoil on the back. I think it's more like 101% of the engadget comments are hating on apple for this one!

edit: link to engadget where this story "broke"

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide
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It is kinda sad that apple wants to say "hey, this is just not our problem alone". i dont know what they did, but other blogs have tried to replicate, even engadet, and they have not been able to, What do they expect really, Failed Antenna plus ATT's network = Failphone!
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and apple disabled the comments on that video, because they knew they would have additional backlash.
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i tried again in outdoor open area with full bars & so matter how i cover with both my hands, the bar remain the same. is my method wrong?
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i tried again in outdoor open area with full bars & so matter how i cover with both my hands, the bar remain the same. is my method wrong?
No, there is no problem.

Rumor is that Apple used a jammer of some sort, or used tinfoil.

Plus those people walking in the background don't add a shred of credibility to apple. Consumer reports at least did a proper test of apple's icrap phone that can kinda-make-calls-but-they-drop-if-it's-held-wrong.

AGAIN, watch the droid x video... they have a call going on the x.... it NEVER drops!
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I can replicate this on my X when I'm in an area with not so great signal. I cannot replicate it in an area when I have great signal. I do agree that all phones do this, however Apple's antenna is in an especially vulnerable spot. I don't think it's fair that we all act as if only their product is affected by this, theirs is just in a place that makes it easier to affect.
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I can replicate this on my X when I'm in an area with not so great signal. I cannot replicate it in an area when I have great signal. I do agree that all phones do this, however Apple's antenna is in an especially vulnerable spot. I don't think it's fair that we all act as if only their product is affected by this, theirs is just in a place that makes it easier to affect.
No, the apple product will drop calls, even in good reception areas. Anyone can reproduce that, and hundreds of people have by making videos online.

Apple proved that the droid x won't drop a call using their secret tin-foil death grip. If you missed it, they had a call going on the whole time, and it never dropped.
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Apple. What a joke. They're only doing what is common these days- lie. Lie because people who want to believe will believe, and everyone else can go to hell.
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This is laughable.... I cant lose signal with both hands wrapped around, I can't loose signal if I cover it with a pillow. I can however make it lose signal with a Signal Jammer I have that makes it loose signal about as fast as that video. Its shameless that Apple would go to such lengths to make little movies about all these PDA's to try and show that it happens to EVERy phone... What bull tactics, i'm surprised Motorola doesnt sue for false representation.
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I think Apple needs to start showing this video instead:

YouTube - Another Banned iPhone 4 Promo

And Droid Life is calling B.S:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fup7fb1qIM&feature=player_embedded#!
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No, the apple product will drop calls, even in good reception areas. Anyone can reproduce that, and hundreds of people have by making videos online.

Apple proved that the droid x won't drop a call using their secret tin-foil death grip. If you missed it, they had a call going on the whole time, and it never dropped.
Oh trust me I know iPhone's drop calls like mad on AT&T. I used an iPhone for about a year. I used one for a while on T-Mobile as well and had no dropped calls, so I blame AT&T. I didn't use an iPhone 4 so I can't comment there, but all I'm saying is that basically all phones drop bars and it doesn't do anyone any good to think that Apple's the only one. I agree their product design didn't take this into account. A friend with an iPhone 4 and I tried to do the deathgrip in a high signal area and couldn't make the bars drop. However, even with "full bars" the call dropped. I still blame AT&T. Anywho I don't worry about dropped calls with VZW and my X thank god, I just think it's BS to act like ours is perfect theirs is sh**.
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wow, i can't believe they disable comments so nobody can call them on their bullshit.
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My comments on Engadget:

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Did anybody notice......

If u hold the phone like that u cant even talk on the phone good? His pinky is blocking, in the way of the mic...

omg....lol

And the No Service message never popped up. I bet they tried and it took awhile for that to happen. Why stop before the No Service message comes up...Hmmmm. lol

Thanks Apple, cuz to talk on the phone, I wouldnt even begin to hold it like that...

Again Apple, and iPhone fans, its not that the iPhone 4 loses bars, signal! All phones might! We get that!!

ITS HOW EASY IT IS TO DO IT THATS THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!

iPhone 4, I actually hold my phone like that....
X, I want to have a clear path to the mic to actually talk...

Serious Fail Apple....WOW......
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Hold the phone like that and try to talk on the phone...

Now hold the phone the way the iPhone 4 drops calls and try to talk on the phone...

Amazing Apple, truly amazing,.....
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How did they turn off data and wifi
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I can't get my Droid X to drop a single bar holding it with two hands wrapped around the entire edges or trying to imitate how the video shows it being held.

I believe there are some other phones, android phones included, that could be effected, but I say this video's bogus unless someone else on this forum can replicate it.

I agree that Apple just seems desperate at this point!
Same with me apple is trying anything they can because they are losing ground and they know it
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Can anyone else say that their iPhone 4 launch has been a bit of a disaster?
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How did they turn off data and wifi
They did the "test" while in an active call.

Either way, I'm calling some sort of BS on this. Apple just needs to admit they finally made a mistake and they're not the perfect god-like people they've tried to lead people to believe over the past many years.
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Whats interesting is the forum at mac rumors. Its actually full of people with a lil sense...lol

Apple Takes on Droid X With Latest Smartphone Antenna Video - Mac Forums
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I can replicate this on my X when I'm in an area with not so great signal. I cannot replicate it in an area when I have great signal. I do agree that all phones do this, however Apple's antenna is in an especially vulnerable spot. I don't think it's fair that we all act as if only their product is affected by this, theirs is just in a place that makes it easier to affect.
False i have shitty reception in my basement and i gripped the phone about every which way and it wont drop a single bar
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wow. apple is stooping so low.

I have been a loyal fan of the iphone for roughly a year now, but even my 3gs started having issues.

With the way they are treating the public and their customers, I have defected to droid/verizon.

Out of curiosity, i tested my droidx yesterday before seeing the video: no signal drop for me.

today, i tested again trying to mimic their grip, still no signal drop.

if you cover the top near the "motorola", your wifi signal WILL drop tho. Mine drops from 5 to 2 bars.
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With the way they are treating the public and their customers, I have defected to droid/verizon.
Do you mean defaulted? lol
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Oops! My mistake. Wrong word I was thinking defected was related to.
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I saw this and laughed my ass off. I actually made a status update on Facebook about this. Rather than post my facebook info, here it is:

Dear Steve Jobs. Thank you for posting the latest video of the droid x losing signal when you grip it in a certain way. I mean come on. The next video is going to be of you shoving a phone up your ass and then claiming your intestine is not registering the call cause you had it set to vibrate. Maybe you can do it with an EVO so you can get that full 4.3 love. Don't lube ..

If anyone seriously is interested in my warped and twisted world, then pm me and I'll give you my facebook details.

Steve just does not give up. Not sure if most users have heard of the "Reality Distortion Field," but that is Steve's charisma deluding people. The last time you saw a blatant example of this is when Alec Guinness in the original Star Wars waived his hand and said "These are not the droids you are looking for." Then again, this predates apple so I suppose Steve is just a closet Jedi at heart.

I have been an Apple user since 1979. I will never own and iphone or an ipod. Over priced. Sorry.

I recommend hitting up Amazon and ordering a copy of the book "The Second Coming of Steve Jobs" to understand the history of Apple and Steve.
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My response to the video.

YouTube - Droid X DOESN'T Lose Signal...Apple Lies
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Where's was the 3g? I have those bars in a freezer at work.
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The best part of the demonstration is that every phone Apple compared their iPhone with always started with full bars, and then dropped one or two bars. The iPhone never started with full bars - ever. LOL. Bad form Mr. Jobs, bad form indeed.
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"i was tellin em the whole time, you guys you know puttin the antenna there is a bad idea right. but no one ever listens to the black guy"

lol that banned iphone commercial owns. also i cant make my bars drop on my droid x. i think my hands are not big enough

well, not big enough to hold it in that weird ass way that the apple guy did anyway
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It happened to my Droid X before I got a case on it. All phones do it. I'm glad Apple is stepping up and do this. The media just went nuts over nothing...
I can tell you this was not blown out of proportion. I returned my iPhone4 and got the Droid X.

The iPhone had a serious issue with the signal loss. I was dropping every other call with it. So far with the Droid I have had zero dropped calls.

Sure all phones may drop some bars when holding it, but it doesn't cause you to drop the call.

Apple's issue is way more serious than a normal drop in bars from holding it. They are just trying to cover it up as much as they can.
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