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Old November 5th, 2011, 09:42 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Really? Just can't wait five days to get the RAZR?
Non-removable battery on RAZR makes RAZR a no-go IMO.

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Non-removable battery on RAZR makes RAZR a no-go IMO.
Not that I want the RAZR , but I'm not so sure a none-removable battery is all that much of a deal breaker. Sure, there have been days that I have had to put my X on a charger before I got home, but I have never had to have an extra battery. I just keep a charger handy, I have one at home, one in the car, and one on my tool box at work. I'm usually not too far from and outlet.
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Not that I want the RAZR , but I'm not so sure a none-removable battery is all that much of a deal breaker. Sure, there have been days that I have had to put my X on a charger before I got home, but I have never had to have an extra battery. I just keep a charger handy, I have one at home, one in the car, and one on my tool box at work. I'm usually not too far from and outlet.
A spare battery isn't the issue for me. It's the numerous times I've had to pull the battery out of my X to get it into bootloader to sbf it after getting stuck on a screen that is unresponsive to all hardware and capacitive buttons. Or, getting stuck forever on a boot logo screen.

Leaning toward the GNex, the lack of an SD card slot is not really an issue for me. I do like to have some backups on the sd card though...
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A spare battery isn't the issue for me. It's the numerous times I've had to pull the battery out of my X to get it into bootloader to sbf it after getting stuck on a screen that is unresponsive to all hardware and capacitive buttons. Or, getting stuck forever on a boot logo screen.

Leaning toward the GNex, the lack of an SD card slot is not really an issue for me. I do like to have some backups on the sd card though...
I've been lucky in that I never had that sort of thing happen to me with the DX. I always waited for the majority of bugs to get worked out . You know the drill:

Post 1: "We have new SBF/new ROM/Blah blah"
3 days later...
Post 2: "IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR THOSE USING new SBF/new ROM/Blah blah!!"

Seemed like clockwork. I also know some very careful people got screwed by apparently doing every meticulous step and still boot looping.

The Razr does have a hardware button combo that simulates a battery pull. I'm pretty sure the dev community will quickly figure out if that works at all times.

Are you still doing frequent batt pulls on GB?! That ain't right...
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I've been lucky in that I never had that sort of thing happen to me with the DX. I always waited for the majority of bugs to get worked out . You know the drill:

Post 1: "We have new SBF/new ROM/Blah blah"
3 days later...
Post 2: "IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR THOSE USING new SBF/new ROM/Blah blah!!"

Seemed like clockwork. I also know some very careful people got screwed by apparently doing every meticulous step and still boot looping.

The Razr does have a hardware button combo that simulates a battery pull. I'm pretty sure the dev community will quickly figure out if that works at all times.

Are you still doing frequent batt pulls on GB?! That ain't right...
Battery pulls?!!!! I haven't had to do one of those since blackberry days! I love the Samsung specs but can't break my loyalties to my Moto x. The predecessor razr seems to be the way for me. Yea yea locked boot n no removable battery but im at the point where who cares? Really? The phone is perfect and ill take some bloat. Doesn't bother me. Personally love the simplicity of the ios & customization of android. RAZR wins for me.
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The removable SD card its another thing I keep wondering about. I know 32 GB seems like a lot, but I also reminder when 4, 8, & 16 GB were "more storage than I can ever use". The Razr can go up to a 32 GB SD card out of the box, giving a little less than 48 GB total.

But, if ICS allows you to use external drives, or plug in a memory stick into the side of the Gnex, that becomes more of a wash too. Granted, an external stick isn't the most elegant solution, but it does solve the problem.

Either way, I'm getting an external battery pack. I've gone the battery swap route enough to know I dont like the down time or losing my place in a movie.
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Battery pulls?!!!! I haven't had to do one of those since blackberry days!
Oh boy, I have. I think I had to do about 10x one day.
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A spare battery isn't the issue for me. It's the numerous times I've had to pull the battery out of my X to get it into bootloader to sbf it after getting stuck on a screen that is unresponsive to all hardware and capacitive buttons. Or, getting stuck forever on a boot logo screen.
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Since Verizon won't bring 4G LTE to Yadkinville, NC until later in 2012 (or perhaps early 2013), I'm sticking with my DX. I'll get to watch things develop some more and simply wait for stronger processors, battery life, and storage.

I took my DX for a swim in August, and having quickly saved my SD card, it was a life saver in getting everything back up running immediately once I had my replacement. I love the SGN, but hate that it doesn't have an SD card now.

The HTC Vigor looks great, but I suspect I'll need to have it plugged into the wall/car charger most of the time, and being that I get stuck in all day meetings a lot, I'm going to bet it's unfortunately not a viable option for me.

If I had to pick, I'd wait to watch how good/bad the battery life is for the Rezound (whenever they finally release it), and am betting that I'd have to lean toward the RAZR because of its stronger battery.
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I haven't had any real problems with my Droid X, but I'm interested in the Galaxy Nexus because of ICS. While it's not official yet, I doubt the X is getting ICS.
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Color us skeptical on this one, but rumors are coming down the pipeline about an HTC phone called the Edge. It's supposedly going to be the first Tegra 3-powered smartphone. According to Pocketnow, the device will supposedly offer a quad-core 1.5GHz CPU, 4.7-inch 720p HD display, 1GB of RAM, an 8MP rear camera with f/2.2 lens and Beats Audio. Curiously, no LTE capability was mentioned specifically, though 21Mbps HSPA+ appears to be good to go, and there's a slight possibility of Sense 4.0 being included -- which given its proposed launch window of late Q1 / early Q2 2012, wouldn't be a huge surprise.
Definitely waiting for March. I'm not a huge fan of HTC, but if they've got one in the pipeline, there will be others...
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i'm keeping mine until :

a. it breaks
b. the extended battery tanks
c. i become eligible for some kind of kickass discount on a phone that is better.

most of the new phones i'm seeing have the 4g battery problem and / or a battery that you can't replace.

my only gripe with the x is that the camera could be better, but even that's pretty good.

all in all, the best phone i've ever had, and i've only had it a year.
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I've had mine since launch day, and loved up until a month or so ago when the download installed the upgrade - the one with the new ui for texting, etc. Since then it has been a slow, laggy, buggy POS that makes me want to throw it out the window. Anyone else having similar issues? Or know what I can fix on mine to make it run as fast as it did before the upgrade?
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Nexus it is for me. I got my DX in Oct. of 2010 after dealing with the eris. anyways, I just found out that i was given an early upgrade. With such a well supported platform like the Nexus, i think i will be good to go for a while. The original nexus, after all, is still being updated at least by developers almost two years after its release. I just want something that i can have the freedom to choose what i want to do with and not be restricted in any way.
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My DX is still running strong. Yeah, she's a little laggy once in a while, but it's nothing a reboot after being on for 8 days won't cure. Yes, I'm looking at the 3 phones coming to Verizon this month. Not sure if I'll get one of those or wait for the quad cores in Q1 2012. That's the good thing about my DX. She's still going strong after 1.5 years so I'm not in a rush to upgrade.

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Moved on to the Razr.

For DX users, this is an excellent upgrade in a form factor you'll appreciate.
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Well I just jumped over to the Droid RAZR and am loving it so far! The only thing I miss so far about the X is the vibrate mode. RAZR vibrate is a joke....probably too thin to produce a good buzz, but i'm sure I will adapt!

I hope the support for the RAZR is at least half as much as the DX got, see some/most of you there!
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I can think of a few things that give me a good buzz....





Q for anyone who's done this: Due to my wife's MS, she may have to quit working next spring/summer, put the house on the market (stairs are a problem), which will be a huge financial hardship for us. What happens if I upgrade to the SGN, and months later need to return to a phone w/o data. I assume the phone could be sold on CL/fleeBay, but what other bad things happen? This is why I'm not planning to upgrade.
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Q for anyone who's done this: Due to my wife's MS, she may have to quit working next spring/summer, put the house on the market (stairs are a problem), which will be a huge financial hardship for us. What happens if I upgrade to the SGN, and months later need to return to a phone w/o data. I assume the phone could be sold on CL/fleeBay, but what other bad things happen? This is why I'm not planning to upgrade.
Sorry to hear that!! as far as your plan, the contract is on the line itself, not the phone or data package. if you have or can get a feature/dumb phone activate it on your line and call VZW and cancel your data packages. not ETF or anything. If you really need to get out of your plan and have unlimited data, I have seen a few people paying others to take over plans with unlimited data. I'm not sure how that works, but could be an option to make a few $$$. Hope that helps and good luck, wish you and your wife the best through your trials.
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I'm definitely waiting till the quad core phones come out in the first part of next year. With the specs of the DX, I haven't seen anything that's SO much better that I have to jump on it, even though I'm eligible for an early upgrade. We don't have LTE in our area yet, don't know when it will become available and the 8mp camera on the DX was way ahead of it's time, since a lot of phones have come out since with only 5mp. I like the selection of ROM's available now, gives more options for the DX, but since a lot of the other current specs aren't that different than my X (other than dual core) and LTE is currently useless to me, I'm drooling for a quad core. That'll be an upgrade for sure. Also, none of the current new phones have the mix of features I'd like. Would love the SGN since Google handles the upgrades but I like the ability to add extra storage etc. Don't want a battery that I can't change out myself b/c I've loved having an extra battery for my DX so on a long day with a lot of use, I can keep on using it.

The extra discount I'll have in March is nice but not the reason I'm waiting. Having said that, I won't turn it down either.
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Q for anyone who's done this: Due to my wife's MS, she may have to quit working next spring/summer, put the house on the market (stairs are a problem), which will be a huge financial hardship for us. What happens if I upgrade to the SGN, and months later need to return to a phone w/o data. I assume the phone could be sold on CL/fleeBay, but what other bad things happen? This is why I'm not planning to upgrade.
Haha! Your comment is too funny....I didn't notice the setup when I first posted!

Sorry to hear about your wife's struggles....I know to many peeps that have been struck with severe MS. Its a mother #$@Ker! About on par with the c word.

I'm sure u will be able to sell the phone when/ if needed. The data plan goes with the line, not the phone. Call the big V for specifics. Wish you and your wife the best!
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I'm definitely waiting till the quad core phones come out in the first part of next year. With the specs of the DX, I haven't seen anything that's SO much better that I have to jump on it, even though I'm eligible for an early upgrade. We don't have LTE in our area yet, don't know when it will become available and the 8mp camera on the DX was way ahead of it's time, since a lot of phones have come out since with only 5mp. I like the selection of ROM's available now, gives more options for the DX, but since a lot of the other current specs aren't that different than my X (other than dual core) and LTE is currently useless to me, I'm drooling for a quad core. That'll be an upgrade for sure. Also, none of the current new phones have the mix of features I'd like. Would love the SGN since Google handles the upgrades but I like the ability to add extra storage etc. Don't want a battery that I can't change out myself b/c I've loved having an extra battery for my DX so on a long day with a lot of use, I can keep on using it.

The extra discount I'll have in March is nice but not the reason I'm waiting. Having said that, I won't turn it down either.
This post resonates a lot with me, because until my DX went tango uniform, I was very happy with it. I also agree there doesn't seem to be on paper a huge difference between the DX and the current offerings.

That said, I had to buy a new phone because of hardware issues. So, from what I've seen so far, in hand there is a pretty big difference. I know Quadrant isn't the best yardstick, but in this case I think it gives a fair idea of the performance difference. My DX on GB is rocking mid 1700s consistently. My Razr is rocking mid 2700s.

The current version of Blur or whatever is actually pretty nice--I uninstalled Go Launcher because the native Razr UI is smoother, and with the exception of the single row dock bar, does what I need anyway.

The camera is ridiculously fast, at least for taking a single shot, and the uncrippled HDMI out is really an "about time" thing. In terms DXers can understand, I can open the camera and take a shot before the DX camera app finishes launching.

I am with you on the battery--I'm not impressed with life so far, though the SmartActions throttling app let me set it overnight and not lose any juice. I've yet to "LTE" it, as I've been home all weekend and in an LTE dead zone. I'm still nervous about the sealed battery, and purchased an external battery...which I would have done with ANY new phone. I'm tired of batt swaps, losing wherever you were in a movie or whatever.

I guess whenever folks choose to jump the DX ship, there will be nothing but soft landing out there the way the phone world is moving!
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I'm definitely waiting till the quad core phones come out in the first part of next year....
Yea, I probably will too. I really want my next phone to be ICS. No buttons on the front, hard or capacitive. I really like the way Honeycomb buttons work on my ASUS TF1 so...

My only fear is when I come into the Droid X forum after Thanksgiving all I'll hear is crickets!
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I was thinking that too. Good thing I like the Liberty ROM. I doubt there's going to be much support in the future.
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I'll be hopping over to the GNex when available.

I've been soured by Samsung phones in the past, but I'm giving them another chance, especially since they aren't going to be doing the updates. Strait ICS from Google, yummy.
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I'll be hopping over to the GNex when available.

I've been soured by Samsung phones in the past, but I'm giving them another chance, especially since they aren't going to be doing the updates. Strait ICS from Google, yummy.
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just got an upgrade today, but im torn between the nexus, razr, and rezound,

My inner geek loves the nexus and I know it'll be an extremely fun phone, but the razr has some great hardware and looks the best of the three, Then the rezound is a beast of a phone but is ugly as hell and im not a HTC fan. Why couldn't the nexus have been exynos proc and SAMOLED+HD instead of just SAMOLED HD. meh if the nexus isn't out or doesn't have a date of release by the end of the month i'll probably get the razr.
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The X is the best phone I've ever used so I will miss it. I'm moving to the iPhone 4s mainly because of the camera which I rely on for my business. The X either shines or fails miserably in the camera department - it's just not very reliable/predictable. There will be things I miss about the Android OS and the X. Hopefully the 4s will do the job.
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The X is the best phone I've ever used so I will miss it. I'm moving to the iPhone 4s mainly because of the camera which I rely on for my business. The X either shines or fails miserably in the camera department - it's just not very reliable/predictable. There will be things I miss about the Android OS and the X. Hopefully the 4s will do the job.


i couldn't agree more about the X camera. Its garbage. I did think about going to the 4S to be honest with you. I travel out of the country a lot and so the international ability did appeal to me that and the good camera.

however ladies and gents....I have an appt today at 4 to pick up my ReZound
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so far so good. there is a slight learning curve because i've never used Sense before.
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How many people here are like me and got the X on July 15th 2010?

I know I want a new phone and the rezound and G-Nex are mighty nice.
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How many people here are like me and got the X on July 15th 2010?

I know I want a new phone and the rezound and G-Nex are mighty nice.
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How many people here are like me and got the X on July 15th 2010?

I know I want a new phone and the rezound and G-Nex are mighty nice.
Got mine on the 15th, now have a Razr. I couldn't wait another 2 plus weeks for maybe Gnex to drop. I looked at the Rezound, and just didn't see enough to make me jump from Moto.
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How many people here are like me and got the X on July 15th 2010?

I know I want a new phone and the rezound and G-Nex are mighty nice.
You can probably get a discounted upgrade right now. You just won't get the "loyalty discount" ($30-$50) until March.
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I'm not ready to jump yet. I wanted to after GB got forced on me. ROMs have breathed a new life into my phone. I might even be generous and give my upgrade to my DH!

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Here is another reason to avoid the Razr....

Motorola Droid RAZR review | The Verge


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THE RAZR'S SCREEN IS A MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT

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While the RAZR is the first device to ever ship with a 4.3-inch qHD 960 x 540 Super AMOLED display, itís not quite the achievement Motorola made it out to be at launch. First, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus features a higher-resolution 720p HD Super AMOLED display, and second, the RAZRís screen looks pretty bad. Super AMOLED panels use the inferior PenTile pixel arrangement, and the RAZRís 256dpi pixel density doesnít hide it ó in fact, it seems to make it worse. Not only are individual pixels readily apparent, but text looks jaggy, thereís red fringing around vertical lines, and images seem to de-res when scrolling in the browser.

Compared to Motorolaís excellent qHD LCD displays in devices like the Bionic and Droid X2 and Appleís industry-leading iPhone 4 / 4S Retina Display, the RAZR is a major disappointment ó and thatís before even taking into account AMOLEDís inherent love-it-or-hate-it hypersaturation and consistent off-axis blue color shift.

According to Motorola, choosing Super AMOLED helped make the RAZR thinner ó AMOLED displays donít need external backlights like traditional LCD displays. Itís just unfortunate Motorola had to sacrifice display quality as well.
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Here is another reason to avoid the Razr....
That article is pretty funny. They slam the RAZR for the pentile display and then praise the X2's pentile display that has been slammed quite a bit in the past.

Any display looks bad when you blow it up 10,000 times.
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The Verge is hardly unbiased either. They have had nothing good to say about the Razr, and are a standout of negativity amongst practically every other website out there. Go to the Razr forums where they have a link to all the other reviews for just a teensy bit more balanced view...
http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-razr/441422-official-droid-razr-product-reviews-consolidated-thread-magazine-blog-reviews.html
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Wife's Rezound is on the way (thanks Amazon) and I will probably be picking up the Nexus on launch day. this is a really good group of folks and I hope to see you around. The DX was and still is a good phone. Just kinda bored with it now.
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I am really leaning toward the RAZR at this point, even more then the GNex. A co-worker got one and I am really amazed with it. I would say my only concerns would be:

1) Battery life
2) Form factor (it is a bit wider and may take some getting used to)

I am waiting to see what the GNex brings though before making a decision. The GNex is getting less attractive, as I am really not into rooting and ROMing anymore.

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That article is pretty funny. They slam the RAZR for the pentile display and then praise the X2's pentile display that has been slammed quite a bit in the past.

Any display looks bad when you blow it up 10,000 times.
That really is funny. Most sites trashed the X2's screen. The Bionic looked a little better. And you have this site saying the RAZR is worse? It's funny, as a lot of other sites said this is the Android phone to have (right now).

Perhaps it is just me, but do we really need to worry about 720p and off-axis blue color shift? It is a cell phone, not a HD TV. I would say battery life and daylight viewing (yes I know about AMOLED and in the sun) are more integral to a phone then 720p.
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The Rezound sounds nice, too bad it doesn't have the ICS and features of the Galaxy Nexux. The Beats audio sounds like fun.
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The Rezound sounds nice, too bad it doesn't have the ICS and features of the Galaxy Nexux. The Beats audio sounds like fun.

I will let you know how it goes when she gets it. Not too happy that the software only works with the built in apps though.
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My HP Touchpad has Beats audio and even with CM7 and no Beats apps, it still sounds great.

I just think it'd be cool b/c the X has lousy sound.
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The Rezound sounds nice, too bad it doesn't have the ICS and features of the Galaxy Nexux. The Beats audio sounds like fun.
yeah but if we get root and S-off on the RZ then the ICS fact will be a moot point
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yeah but if we get root and S-off on the RZ then the ICS fact will be a moot point
ICS already is a moot point--yes, Gnex will get it first, but the Razr and Rezound won't be far behind. I wouldn't let ICS be even close to a deciding factor.
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ICS already is a moot point--yes, Gnex will get it first, but the Razr and Rezound won't be far behind. I wouldn't let ICS be even close to a deciding factor.
agreed
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I still love my DX, but between the Carrier IQ fiasco and my last early upgrade, I'm thinking of making the switch to the Galaxy Nexus. Still trying to find out if flashing a custom ROM on the DX gets rid of Carrier IQ or not. I know that because of the locked bootloader, it isn't a full flash like on other devices, so I'm thinking CIQ might still be on there no matter what. My contract ends in August, and I'd like to go until then, but if this CIQ thing is as gnarly as it sounds, might just use the early u[grade and move on much soomer.
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