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Old March 29th, 2010, 06:42 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Damn. I've been waiting for the incredible but this phone seems awesome! But knowing how long weve been jerked around about it its hard to want to follow another phone. Wish there were better pics. And the shadow would only be a few months after the incerd is supposedly coming. But I'm in need for a new phone!
Choices, choices!
If things go AS PLANNED it'll be out 2 to 3 month after the Incredible. I've been following the Incredible for a while now as well and recently discovered the Shadow.

At this point I plan to jump on the Incredible as soon as it's released and continue to watch the Shadow. At that point, unless the Shadow shows signs of being delayed into August or later, I'll return the Incredible and switch to my Omnia for a month or 2 and then get the Shadow when it's released.

I just know I would hate to fall out of love with my phone 2 months after buying it and I think the Shadow MAY make me fall out of love with the Incredible. Then again it still seems early and we still don't have any GREAT pictures of what this things gonna look like.

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i KNEW i shouldnt have walked into this forum!!!!
i been with the Incredible, but from time to time, looking up the Shadow...
Yes i have been cheating on the incredible...
But im thinking of the Shadow...
We've been complaining about Verizon, but by June, they will have the Incredible, Shadow, and the iPhone HD!!! wow..
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I don't think they'll have the iPhone until the fall at least that's what the WSJ is reporting my guess is it will have LTE but won't be released until sometime next year.

So about the OMAP processor would it run just like the Droid would if it were overclocked to 700Mhz and just run cooler?
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Only thing is, everything you search about the Motorola Shadow pops up that it has a keyboard.
except this...



which i pasted in the shadow thread

edit:the mods moved this post here (which is why it is posted twice)

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except this...



which i pasted in the shadow thread
Where did you find these shots? They're the only ones I've seen like this.

Still doesn't necessarily address the keyboard/no keyboard though IMO....

Sorry for the OT.

And on to something Incredible
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except this...



which i pasted in the shadow thread
No offense, but how does that let us know it doesn't have a keyboard? It seems extremely hard to tell IMO. It's not like i don't believe you.
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I don't think they'll have the iPhone until the fall at least that's what the WSJ is reporting my guess is it will have LTE but won't be released until sometime next year.

So about the OMAP processor would it run just like the Droid would if it were overclocked to 700Mhz and just run cooler?
Engadget is reporting different, and with good sources.\
WSJ: Apple 'developing new iPhone,' plus another for Verizon (update: iPhone HD, front-facing camera?) -- Engadget
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No offense, but how does that let us know it doesn't have a keyboard? It seems extremely hard to tell IMO. It's not like i don't believe you.
According to insiders on HoFo, theres 2 devices. The Shadow, which doesn't have a keyboard and is due out around June/July, and the Droid 2, which is still VERY early on, and has a keyboard (and possibly LTE!) but due out around September/Octover.
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That's where I got that info as well.

It's also stated that the world's first CDMA iPhone will be manufactured by Pegatron Technology, which we caught just last week dabbling in some of NVIDIA's Tegra 2-based wares. If all goes well, Pegatron could begin mass production of the CDMA iPhone (exact model not disclosed) this September, so it's hard to say if Sprint or Verizon would have access before the all-too-lucrative holiday season.
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my other source (not from howard forums) says the verizon 'iphone' (wont be called iphone) will be out in summer.

just sayin
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Droid 2...now featuring an even shittier keyboard. UPTOP! Anyone? Anyone?
Ehem moving on

Anyways I do believe the Shadow looks like a nice phone, but if i remember correctly it has a place for a wrist strap and that bothers the crap out of me. I forgot we are all 5. Does it come standard with the cookies and milk app? (which would be awesome. Nothing wrong with cookies and milk mates )

I'm quite interested in the Droid 2 though, because I'm interested in this LTE...

By the tiem everythings 4g in a year, or 2 years I'll then buy a new phone with a physical keybaord and...a 2ghz processor maybe? Apple will be begging by that time.
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First off the wrist strap you saw was on a RENDERING of the Droid 2 so don't worry about it being on the Shadow. From everything that HAS come out about the Shadow it should be a pretty solid phone. Most likely no childish or strange gimmicks.

And to be honest I wouldn't really worry about it even being on the final version of the Droid 2 either. The pics you see floating around are an EARLY render of the Droid 2.
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Geesh people, do I have to make the letters bigger and brighter. The Shadow != Droid 2. The Shadow DOES NOT HAVE A KEYBOARD, while the Droid 2 DOES. Sorry, but had to do it. Read up the first post and it tells you.

So far the Droid 2 has gone through another hardware change. The pic was a render, just like the first render of the Droid.

Ok, now off topic.
This is just me lol. On the iPhone topic.
It was speculated that Apple was testing a "device" on Verizon's upcoming LTE network back in 2009 if I'm not mistaken.

Later on, it was said that Apple was working on a CDMA iPhone model for Verizon, and that the chipset supplier would be Qualcomm.
And now, we are getting info that (what the WSJ said) that Apple is going to release two different models (maybe just difference in EV-DO and HSPA), one for Verizon, and one for AT&T. However, I think that Apple has been working on three different models; an LTE one, a CDMA (3G) one, and GSM/HSPA one, although maybe they'll go a step-ahead of the crowd (but not HTC since they released the first US 4G/WiMax phone) and release an iPhone HD/4G for Verizon when they launch their LTE network before the end of the year.

Also, take in mind that Verizon's LTE network will go live before the end of the year, and that there is a high percentage of the Motorola Droid 2 being it's first LTE phone, or maybe even the iPhone if Apple is really serious in that perspective. If the new iPhone does have iChat, (which is also a feature of the upcoming Droid 2) then it could also be a given that it will be launching with Verizon's LTE network, no?

Man, I wish I remembered in what forum/site/blog I commented, and one of the Mods said that LTE was wayyyy off. So now what? Lol.

I wonder if we should make an iPhone HD/4G thread, or if we should keep on commenting that in here. I am by no means saying not to of course, since we do have little to no more info in regards to the Shadow.
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Ok, started a new thread for the iPhone "HD"
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Is one of these phones going to be the "nexus two"
Moto said they are working on a google phone currently which would be released direct to the public I assume through the google site again..

Is that going to be the droid 2? with the keyboard?

A lot of sites on the internet were suggesting the shadow would be the nexus two but then again those sites were saying the shadow had a keyboard...

Specs look great so far.. Just hope they do a 3g version and an unlocked version for those of us not in the states.
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Is one of these phones going to be the "nexus two"
Moto said they are working on a google phone currently which would be released direct to the public I assume through the google site again..

Is that going to be the droid 2? with the keyboard?

A lot of sites on the internet were suggesting the shadow would be the nexus two but then again those sites were saying the shadow had a keyboard...

Specs look great so far.. Just hope they do a 3g version and an unlocked version for those of us not in the states.
Not really sure on that. The only one that knows is Eric S. from Google lol. He is the one who chooses which device/phone will be the next "Google Phone" to introduce its next firmware upgrade. However, I am highly doubting that the Shadow will be the "Nexus Two" for a simple reason, it will be sold by Verizon just like the Droid was, and not through Google. If what Google is doing so far by selling the Nexus One via its site, then we can assume that the next Nexus phone will be sold via their site as well, thus eliminating the Shadow as the Nexus Two. However, I'm also doubting that the Droid 2 will be the Nexus Two because so far it's been somewhat said is that it will have LTE, thus being sold by Verizon once again since they will be the ones providing the data pricing for its LTE data traffic. Just my 2 cents
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The insider on hofo said the shadow was not the Nexus 2.
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However, I think that Apple has been working on three different models; an LTE one, a CDMA (3G) one, and GSM/HSPA one, although maybe they'll go a step-ahead of the crowd (but not HTC since they released the first US 4G/WiMax phone) and release an iPhone HD/4G for Verizon when they launch their LTE network before the end of the year.

Also, take in mind that Verizon's LTE network will go live before the end of the year, and that there is a high percentage of the Motorola Droid 2 being it's first LTE phone, or maybe even the iPhone if Apple is really serious in that perspective. If the new iPhone does have iChat, (which is also a feature of the upcoming Droid 2) then it could also be a given that it will be launching with Verizon's LTE network, no?
Not that you couldn't be right but I believe VZW stated that LTE will initially be for data only devices (aircards) and the first LTE phone on VZW wouldn't be released until summer of 2011 most likely. I think everyone hoping for an LTE capable N1, Droid 2, Shadow, or VZW iPhone this year is going to be dissapointed. Just my opinion though.
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Not that you couldn't be right but I believe VZW stated that LTE will initially be for data only devices (aircards) and the first LTE phone on VZW wouldn't be released until summer of 2011 most likely. I think everyone hoping for an LTE capable N1, Droid 2, Shadow, or VZW iPhone this year is going to be dissapointed. Just my opinion though.
I heard that it would only be data, and not "calls", ie LTE won't be able to do what AT&T does, surf the web while on a call, but only do data. As far as it's known, Verizon, and AT&T as well haven't decided on the "calling" standards. Also, there was mention in HoFo that we could expect the Motorola Tablet early in 2011 (Q1 I believe) with LTE. An "insider" also said that the initial LTE products from Verizon wouldn't be selling a lot because of the availability/coverage of LTE at launch. That is also why one of the reps/spokesperson from AT&T said that the initial products from Verizon having LTE would be bricks. Since LTE will be "data" at launch, it will have to rely on Verizon's CDMA network to be able to make calls. I believe Qualcomm has an LTE + CDMA chipset already. I think that's what they meant with "data" only. You won't be able to make a call with LTE, thus the inclusion of the CDMA chip.
Of course Shadow won't have LTE. It is believed (mostly hinted) that the Droid 2 would have LTE, and also have CDMA to fall back and make calls.
It's just me of course lol.
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Ok, now confirmed that the Droid 2 will not have LTE.
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im really hoping to see some more leaked pics of this phone soon.

it will make the wait a little more bearable.
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im really hoping to see some more leaked pics of this phone soon.

it will make the wait a little more bearable.
indeed.
helps to keep hope alive.
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im really hoping to see some more leaked pics of this phone soon.

it will make the wait a little more bearable.
It would also help to stir some excitement for this phone. The more people that get behind this phone the more information we may find.

If it wasn't for your additional pics we would have nearly nothing to go on.
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it wont work on AT&T anyway. Data is terrible
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it wont work on AT&T anyway. Data is terrible
I don't think this phone was ever rumored to be going to AT&T. At this point it's only rumored for a Summer release on Verizon.
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I cannot wait for this phone to come out. I am sick and tired of dealing with my Storm 1 lagging all the time. And depending on how Blur looks on the shadow, I might just have to disable it and just run standard Android.
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I cannot wait for this phone to come out. I am sick and tired of dealing with my Storm 1 lagging all the time. And depending on how Blur looks on the shadow, I might just have to disable it and just run standard Android.
Yea I think a lot of people have a bad taste in their mouths for MotoBlur But I thought maybe it would be a different version than what everyone else has seen. If the Shadow Runs Android 3 (FroYo) maybe MotoBlur will be improved and less obtrusive.
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The insider said Android 3.0 wont' be out this year.

It looks like (from said insider) the shadow may be a 4.1" screen and MotoBlur may be removed from the product.
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The insider said Android 3.0 wont' be out this year.

It looks like (from said insider) the shadow may be a 4.1" screen and MotoBlur may be removed from the product.
Yeah, I'm guessing that too, unless they were talking about the Droid 2
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i keep getting them mixed up in that thread,,,,it says its for the mirage/shadow, but all the droid 2 talk is confusing the sh** out of people
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i keep getting them mixed up in that thread,,,,it says its for the mirage/shadow, but all the droid 2 talk is confusing the sh** out of people
Same. I do think he was talking about the Shadow, when he referenced the 4.1" screen and possible removal of MotoBlur. Seems more likely if only because the Droid 2 could possibly become the Nexus Two, and theres no way that wouldn't be stock Android. Plus, I'd be extremely surprised if they could fit a keyboard onto a device with a 4.3" screen without it being too bulky.
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haha, it's amusing seeing people get confused, specially if they haven't read previous posts XD. But, I do think they were talking about the Shadow. The Shadow cannot go under any hardware change in the phase it's at right now, not anymore. If Motorola is to release it this June/July then the hardware must be done by now, with only software changes going on (OS wise/features). Moreover, the Droid 2 can possibly go through one more hardware change, but that's it, since it will be on Bill's hands for "software" patching/bugging/etc.. before the 4th of July. Hmm, can you add two and two together? Is it strange/surprising that Bill will get his hands on the Droid 2 around the time that the Shadow might be released ?
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So yes, the Shadow has a 4.1" screen
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So yes, the Shadow has a 4.1" screen
4.1" Works great for me
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Someone really needs to dig up some new pictures of this thing. I can't wait for more information
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yeah i'll take a 4.1" screen, i would have been fine with 3.7 like the inc, so this is great.
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Does anyone think Motorola might end up increasing the resolution on this handset before it's released in light of the new iphone res of 960x640 which will probably be released first?
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Does anyone think Motorola might end up increasing the resolution on this handset before it's released in light of the new iphone res of 960x640 which will probably be released first?
I can't imagine they would make a change like that at this point to keep up with ANY upcoming phones... Would be nice though
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Does anyone think Motorola might end up increasing the resolution on this handset before it's released in light of the new iphone res of 960x640 which will probably be released first?
Doubt it. At this stage they can't do anything to the entire device, but only fix a couple of bugs, and patch them up . Remember that the Droid 2 will be ready for testing in a couple of months
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Doubt it. At this stage they can't do anything to the entire device, but only fix a couple of bugs, and patch them up . Remember that the Droid 2 will be ready for testing in a couple of months
Yea, I thought about that after I posted and was reading back through the thread again. While I really like Android and have zero interest in the iphone OS, I can't help but feel I may be taking an envious glance at that new high-res iphone screen.
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Why oh why did I look? Why did I just HAVE to click on this thread and start reading!?!?!

I had an EnV . . . thought I'd be perfectly happy with an Eris . . . then I found this forum . . . now my ears are starting to bleed with the overload of information . . .

Droid, Incredible, N1, Shadow, Droid2 . . . must . . . make . . . a spreadsheet

Ignorance truly is bliss.
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Why oh why did I look? Why did I just HAVE to click on this thread and start reading!?!?!

I had an EnV . . . thought I'd be perfectly happy with an Eris . . . then I found this forum . . . now my ears are starting to bleed with the overload of information . . .

Droid, Incredible, N1, Shadow, Droid2 . . . must . . . make . . . a spreadsheet

Ignorance truly is bliss.
Seriously. haha! And the LG VS740 that should be coming out pretty soon too (Snapdragon+5MP+720p recording+keyboard+800x480 OLED). Good time to be a Verizon customer LOL.
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The LG what? You guys are killing me!
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The LG what? You guys are killing me!
LG VS740, aka the Aloha. Actually turned up in Verizon's inventory system the other day so it may be out in a month or so (just a guess).
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Three questions...

With the hdmi out, will this allow you to plug into a tv and use it as a monitor while say searching the Internet? Or just show videos/pictures?

Will the shadow have the ability to auto switch to navigation mode?

Will this device utilize the gorilla glass that is used in the droid?

Thx
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Three questions...

With the hdmi out, will this allow you to plug into a tv and use it as a monitor while say searching the Internet? Or just show videos/pictures?

Will the shadow have the ability to auto switch to navigation mode?

Will this device utilize the gorilla glass that is used in the droid?

Thx
1. My guess is that the HDMI output will output whatever is on the screen at the time. It SHOULD work that way, anyway.

2. What, with a dock? Probably, if they release one.

3. No one knows at this point.
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more leaks please.
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hold on a second. If this is going to Verizon then what are the chances of there being an unlocked GSM version for Europe?

First i was let down by the news that there wont be an HTC Evo in europe, but if this is true for the Shadow too then i'll go and cut myself.

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With the Incredible released motorola better be in leak mode. Hurry Moto before I buy the Incredible!
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hold on a second. If this is going to Verizon then what are the chances of there being an unlocked GSM version for Europe?

First i was let down by the news that there wont be an HTC Evo in europe, but if this is true for the Shadow too then i'll go and cut myself.

*cries*
there wont be an unlocked gsm version
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