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Old June 12th, 2010, 11:17 PM   #251 (permalink)
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You really think a kickstand can make a phone inferior?
And forgot to mention the Evo can handle voice/data where the Droid X can only do this on wifi.

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And forgot to mention the Evo can handle voice/data where the Droid X can only do this on wifi.
Okay I think that's enough from the HTC fanboy. If you don't like the Droid X then why are you in this thread? Motorola was the first to come out with a great android phone and HTC was making them for over a year by then. Some people might want a better build quality and battery life then the EVO. Maybe some people don't want to be on Sprint. I know I would get the Incredible before the EVO just because it is on Verizon. Plus the kickstand will make the phone bulkier and the front camera won't be used for another year or so any way unless you have another friend with an EVO.
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Old June 13th, 2010, 12:51 AM   #253 (permalink)
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am i the only one who noticed that the droid's menu icon looks the same as it does in froyo? good sign??
I believe a custom launcher is installed. I think it's called Launcher Pro.
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This is a Moto-X fanboy thread . Lets stay on topic. Start a New thread on why the EVO is better.

Any other info you want to share mad?
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I just noticed that the 1st page mentioned "No SIM Slot - Not a world Phone"
Does that mean it will take some time to come over to Europe or will it never leave Americian Shores? O_o
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I just noticed that the 1st page mentioned "No SIM Slot - Not a world Phone"
Does that mean it will take some time to come over to Europe or will it never leave Americian Shores? O_o
this is what i want to know too. anyone want to comment on this?
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Makes the Evo look like a baby? People please hahaha. No front camera or kickstand already makes it hardware wise inferior
Look at the quardrant benchmarks, this phone is already smoking the evo..

And hopefully the X will actually take NICE video, unlike the EVO with what they claim is "720 HD" but looks like sd youtube,,,
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First post here, as I just found this site today. Looks good.

I can't think of any reasons to not return my Droid before my 30 days are up in order to pick up a DroidX when it comes out in July.

I over research everything, and want to make sure I'd like the DroidX over the Droid.

The DroidX doesn't have any moving parts to trap dust, grit, or grime. It should be much easier to keep clean for those who work with their hands. I picked up the Droid last Saturday the 5th and since I'm an industrial electrician, have been keeping it in a zip lock baggy while in my pocket at work.

I wonder how difficult it will be to get rid of the MotoBlur UI, because I REALLY like the plain Android OS UI.

I have to be very careful with use at work, because the battery drains down rather quick. I disable GPS, turn the backlight down to minimum, disable Gmail synch (since I don't use Gmail), and have my rocketmail.com (Yahoo.com) email account set to check every hour. If I were to keep the Droid, I would be forced to get the Seidio 2800 mAh battery, which only gives me one case to choose from. I mean, what's the point of having a smartphone if you can't actually use the "smart" part of it?

As long as the call quality on the DroidX is as good as it is on the Droid and the battery life isn't any worse than it is on the Doid, then I would imagine it would be a go.

I really like the fact the Droid is metal. It does not seem flimsy at all. Do we know if the DroidX will also be metal and heavy duty feeling?

What's with a lot of folks' desire for the physical keyboard of the Droid? I never use mine.
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this is what i want to know too. anyone want to comment on this?
You could take it over there but not make phone calls with it WIFI only since it's not a world phone but once Verizon's LTE network is up and running all their LTE phones will have sim slots from what I've heard and would work overseas.
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First post here, as I just found this site today. Looks good.

I can't think of any reasons to not return my Droid before my 30 days are up in order to pick up a DroidX when it comes out in July.

I over research everything, and want to make sure I'd like the DroidX over the Droid.

The DroidX doesn't have any moving parts to trap dust, grit, or grime. It should be much easier to keep clean for those who work with their hands. I picked up the Droid last Saturday the 5th and since I'm an industrial electrician, have been keeping it in a zip lock baggy while in my pocket at work.

I wonder how difficult it will be to get rid of the MotoBlur UI, because I REALLY like the plain Android OS UI.

I have to be very careful with use at work, because the battery drains down rather quick. I disable GPS, turn the backlight down to minimum, disable Gmail synch (since I don't use Gmail), and have my rocketmail.com (Yahoo.com) email account set to check every hour. If I were to keep the Droid, I would be forced to get the Seidio 2800 mAh battery, which only gives me one case to choose from. I mean, what's the point of having a smartphone if you can't actually use the "smart" part of it?

As long as the call quality on the DroidX is as good as it is on the Droid and the battery life isn't any worse than it is on the Doid, then I would imagine it would be a go.

I really like the fact the Droid is metal. It does not seem flimsy at all. Do we know if the DroidX will also be metal and heavy duty feeling?

What's with a lot of folks' desire for the physical keyboard of the Droid? I never use mine.

As far as alot of rumors go, many are saying that the X will have a 45nm cpu, just that alone will really boost battery life.
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You could take it over there but not make phone calls with it WIFI only since it's not a world phone but once Verizon's LTE network is up and running all their LTE phones will have sim slots from what I've heard and would work overseas.
haha that would be next to useless for me

i really dont want to wait any longer though. i've been waiting since last year for the perfect phone, and this is it, but its for Verizon only. The best we have here is the Desire, but its not for me.
I really hope Moto makes a euro version..
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To Madigital or whoever has the phone right now: Can you please confirm what the small circle is shown in the Droid Life's front side pic? It's in the upper right to the side of the speaker. Is this just a charging light or VM/message indicator?
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Sorry, no front facing camera.

major bummer, I wouldnt buy a phone without one.
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@maddigital

I know a while back you said that you got through a day on the battery, but is there any chance you can give us some more detail? How many hours on time, standby time, etc. Also, if you can include a breakdown with stuff like "30 minutes watching video, 1 hour using gps turn by turn, 2 hours web browsing, 15 minutes calling" that would also be helpful.
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@maddigital

I know a while back you said that you got through a day on the battery, but is there any chance you can give us some more detail? How many hours on time, standby time, etc. Also, if you can include a breakdown with stuff like "30 minutes watching video, 1 hour using gps turn by turn, 2 hours web browsing, 15 minutes calling" that would also be helpful.
In addition to that could u also tell us the ratings on the charger so i can see if my incredible accesories will work with this phone too assuming they will both be micro usb.
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What type of touchpad does it have?
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What type of touchpad does it have?
I am assuming you meant touch sensor? FYI the touch sensor is the part of the phone that registers the touches on the screen. Some touch sensors only support single touch, some support two simultaneous touches and then the best ones are truly multitouch and can support way more touches. Obviously you probably won't be using more than two touches, but I say they're better b/c they are just smarter in general.

Since we're on the topic, I have two more questions for you maddigital:

1) Can you please verify that the Droid X does not have the multitouch axis flipping issue that a few HTC phones had. I don't expect this to be an issue b/c the Droid didn't have the axis flipping problem.

2) Can you please verify that the Droid X does not have the issue that the Incredible had w/ touchscreen sensitivity. ---> http://androidforums.com/support-troubleshooting-incredible/70366-unresponsive-screen-when-car-dock.html
(Basically, if you put your phone down on something like your couch, in a car dock, on a table etc and then try to use it by only touching the screen, does it respond normally? To test this appropriately the only contact you should be making with the phone is w/ a single finger touching the screen only.)

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What type of touchpad does it have?
I am not sure what you are saying? Are you asking about if this phone has a track ball or track pad? If so there isn't one to my knowledge. If you are talking about the screen, you can look at page one and it will have most of the specs.
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I am assuming you meant touch sensor? FYI the touch sensor is the part of the phone that registers the touches on the screen. Some touch sensors only support single touch, some support two simultaneous touches and then the best ones are truly multitouch and can support way more touches. Obviously you probably won't be using more than two touches, but I say they're better b/c they are just smarter in general.

Since we're on the topic, I have two more questions for you maddigital:

1) Can you please verify that the Droid X does not have the multitouch axis flipping issue that a few HTC phones had. I don't expect this to be an issue b/c the Droid didn't have the axis flipping problem.

2) Can you please verify that the Droid X does not have the issue that the Incredible had w/ touchscreen sensitivity. ---> http://androidforums.com/support-troubleshooting-incredible/70366-unresponsive-screen-when-car-dock.html
(Basically, if you put your phone down on something like your couch, in a car dock, on a table etc and then try to use it by only touching the screen, does it respond normally? To test this appropriately the only contact you should be making with the phone is w/ a single finger touching the screen only.)

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To the people put off by the lack of front-facing camera, you're better off waiting a bit to get a phone with one.

I follow new tech pretty closely, especially cellphones, and have been waiting for the perfect handset to switch me from Blackberry to Android. I fully believe the X is that handset. Specs, screen, build quality, materials and design, it appeals to me on every level. Point is, it's taken a long time to get a phone of this caliber. The Incredible was close but funky rear design and cheap plastic materials ruined it for me.

Front-facing cameras are a new thing, and I can fully understand the appeal of something new. I think you'll be better off to wait for someone to "get it right" than to jump on the first phone with it. Plus, how many people are you going to know right now that you can video chat with? Give it a year and it'll be as common as a rear camera and carriers and software designers will know how to better utilize it.
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To the people put off by the lack of front-facing camera, you're better off waiting a bit to get a phone with one.

I follow new tech pretty closely, especially cellphones, and have been waiting for the perfect handset to switch me from Blackberry to Android. I fully believe the X is that handset. Specs, screen, build quality, materials and design, it appeals to me on every level. Point is, it's taken a long time to get a phone of this caliber. The Incredible was close but funky rear design and cheap plastic materials ruined it for me.

Front-facing cameras are a new thing, and I can fully understand the appeal of something new. I think you'll be better off to wait for someone to "get it right" than to jump on the first phone with it. Plus, how many people are you going to know right now that you can video chat with? Give it a year and it'll be as common as a rear camera and carriers and software designers will know how to better utilize it.
Good advice. I've been thinking about this constantly. I think I'm gonna do a 1-year contract and pay more for the phone. By the end of that contract the front facing cameras will have gotten better and so will the software (here's hoping for Skype mobile video chat on LTE). This will be my first smart phone I intend to actually keep (tried the BB Storm 1 for 2 weeks and took it back). Does anybody know if Google Apps e-mail accounts (not regular G-Mail) can be set up to push for immediate delivery a la Blackberry? If so, this is a day one purchase for me...
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Yes, I meant touch sensor. I was curious if it had multi touch?
I'd be willing to bet my life on the sensor supporting multitouch. That doesn't necessarily mean all the apps will be built to use multitouch though.

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To the people put off by the lack of front-facing camera, you're better off waiting a bit to get a phone with one.

I follow new tech pretty closely, especially cellphones, and have been waiting for the perfect handset to switch me from Blackberry to Android. I fully believe the X is that handset. Specs, screen, build quality, materials and design, it appeals to me on every level. Point is, it's taken a long time to get a phone of this caliber. The Incredible was close but funky rear design and cheap plastic materials ruined it for me.

Front-facing cameras are a new thing, and I can fully understand the appeal of something new. I think you'll be better off to wait for someone to "get it right" than to jump on the first phone with it. Plus, how many people are you going to know right now that you can video chat with? Give it a year and it'll be as common as a rear camera and carriers and software designers will know how to better utilize it.
No joke, you just described the EXACT situation I am in: well said. Although I was initially pretty excited about the Incredible, it rapidly left my mind as an acceptable choice when I saw the SLEW of problems popping up elsewhere in this forum. Probably the most disturbing issue was the shear number of screens that were breaking from a 3 or 4 foot drop...

I am sooo glad I heard about this phone. I can't tell you how excited I am for this phone. I have never owned a smartphone in my life but I've been following Android phones ever since the Droid was released (almost obsessively tbh ). This is the first phone that actually sounds like it will meet my expectations.

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Big screen, great durability/build quality, battery life, blazing speed, great call quality, great speaker phone, point and snap camera replacement, gps replacement, etc etc. Get the picture? Unless I'm way off, this phone is going to be absurdly good.
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Does anybody know if Google Apps e-mail accounts (not regular G-Mail) can be set up to push for immediate delivery a la Blackberry? If so, this is a day one purchase for me...
Yes - absolutely you can. However, I think for best integration of all of Google's "services" (including Google Voice, etc) you should use a regular gmail account when you set up your phone. Then add your Google Apps account as a second email/calendar account.
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I follow new tech pretty closely, especially cellphones, and have been waiting for the perfect handset to switch me from Blackberry to Android. I fully believe the X is that handset. Specs, screen, build quality, materials and design, it appeals to me on every level. Point is, it's taken a long time to get a phone of this caliber. The Incredible was close but funky rear design and cheap plastic materials ruined it for me.
Same for me - really looking forward to this phone. I already know I'm going to get it day 1 - just wonder whether I should preorder (and maybe get it a few days early, or late!) or go in-store...
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Yes - absolutely you can. However, I think for best integration of all of Google's "services" (including Google Voice, etc) you should use a regular gmail account when you set up your phone. Then add your Google Apps account as a second email/calendar account.
Wow. Really? Would it "push" e-mails immediately as a secondary e-mail?
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Wow. Really? Would it "push" e-mails immediately as a secondary e-mail?
No only gmail gets pushed. Other accounts get pulled. Some e mail services let you forward email accounts to gmail which would let your non gmail email get pushed but not as fast as a Blackberry
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I was wondering if anyone new if you could pre-order if you are paying full price? Also do you think they will keep the prices about the same as a Droid Incredible or Droid at full price? I know nothing has been said, just wondering your opinions.
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I was wondering if anyone new if you could pre-order if you are paying full price? Also do you think they will keep the prices about the same as a Droid Incredible or Droid at full price? I know nothing has been said, just wondering your opinions.
I really don't see it being over $600 full retail since there's only been 1 phone to hit that mark so far (Pre Plus), but it all depends on what they work out with Motorola for pricing..
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I really don't see it being over $600 full retail since there's only been 1 phone to hit that mark so far (Pre Plus), but it all depends on what they work out with Motorola for pricing..
I hope this is what happens, if it is 600 or under than I will be happy. If not than I will take my money from my Incredible then just throw in a few bucks with it. My brother-in-law just got the EVO and he keeps bragging about it. I like it but cant wait to get mine to compare both phones.
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So, based on the specs, or rumored specs of the Motorola X, would this be better than the Evo 4g when it comes to overall performance and speed? Is the processor on the Droid X as good as the one on the Evo? I was going to pull the trigger on the Evo 4G, but if the X is as powerful and speedy then ill rather invest in Verizons service. Anyone know how the performance would compare?
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To the people put off by the lack of front-facing camera, you're better off waiting a bit to get a phone with one.

I follow new tech pretty closely, especially cellphones, and have been waiting for the perfect handset to switch me from Blackberry to Android. I fully believe the X is that handset. Specs, screen, build quality, materials and design, it appeals to me on every level. Point is, it's taken a long time to get a phone of this caliber. The Incredible was close but funky rear design and cheap plastic materials ruined it for me.

Front-facing cameras are a new thing, and I can fully understand the appeal of something new. I think you'll be better off to wait for someone to "get it right" than to jump on the first phone with it. Plus, how many people are you going to know right now that you can video chat with? Give it a year and it'll be as common as a rear camera and carriers and software designers will know how to better utilize it.
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No only gmail gets pushed. Other accounts get pulled. Some e mail services let you forward email accounts to gmail which would let your non gmail email get pushed but not as fast as a Blackberry
Why couldn't he set up his Google Apps mail account using Exchange - and therefore it would be synced using push?
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Is there any word on the max SD card size yet, or did I miss it? I'm crossing my fingers for at least 32gb since that would allow me to leave my zune at home when I travel this summer.
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Is there any word on the max SD card size yet, or did I miss it? I'm crossing my fingers for at least 32gb since that would allow me to leave my zune at home when I travel this summer.
I think I read 32GB capability somewhere and it would be massively stupid for Moto to not support that size. That's the new standard for microSD support.
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I think I read 32GB capability somewhere and it would be massively stupid for Moto to not support that size. That's the new standard for microSD support.
I fully agree and I have read so much on this phone I can't remember if I ever saw that as a confirmed spec as of yet.
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I just read on android central that the DRoid X was pictured on an airplane. I am in lectures right now, so I'll update later.... In the meantime, head on there and check it out. It looks really long!!
Also head on over to droid life for leaked commercial scripts for the phone. I'll update first post asap, please bear with me.... This phone sur knows how to leak!
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Thanks for the tip Rimzy..

i thought i would go ahead and post them for those anxious to see what u were talking about

Motorola Droid X flies first class | Android Central

Exclusive: Droid 2 and Droid X Commercial Slides, New Juicy Details | Droid Life: A Motorola Droid Blog

And some pics

edit: removed pics, stretched the page too much
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So after reading the commercial scripts I'm torn. Will Droid X have E-mail exchange also? What exactly does that entail? I want push e-mail for my Google Apps account and will go Droid 2 over Droid X if that's what this means. Motorola is splitting the seas here a bit.
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Man that Evo takes shit photos.
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yes!!!
i am SO going to sale my INCREDIBLE on ebay as soon as this gets a date!
and please...please be between $550 and $600
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Man that Evo takes shit photos.
Seriously, that looks worse then my crappy iphone 3g camera.
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are both the Droid 2 and Droid X getting processors clocked at 1GHz? I dont really care for the physical keyboard.
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are both the Droid 2 and Droid X getting processors clocked at 1GHz? I dont really care for the physical keyboard.
They both have the same processor and it looks like both will be clocked at 1Ghz given what we've seen of the X and the leaks today of the Droid 2.
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are both the Droid 2 and Droid X getting processors clocked at 1GHz? I dont really care for the physical keyboard.
I think that is the latest I have seen. I think that it will be 1ghz
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yes!!!
i am SO going to sale my INCREDIBLE on ebay as soon as this gets a date!
and please...please be between $550 and $600
Me too! Cannot freakin wait. It's looking better and better every day.
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I just did a cardboard mock up of the size (just a hair over 5" x 2.5" and yes I stole the idea from another poster) and I think people are grossly over estimating how big this phone will be. It is only about .5" taller than my Storm2 and easily fits in my pocket with no effort at all.

Just my .02 on the matter but it was one more think that is making this phone a definite buy for me.
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I just did a cardboard mock up of the size (just a hair over 5" x 2.5" and yes I stole the idea from another poster) and I think people are grossly over estimating how big this phone will be. It is only about .5" taller than my Storm2 and easily fits in my pocket with no effort at all.

Just my .02 on the matter but it was one more think that is making this phone a definite buy for me.

if this is accurate im getting more and more ANXIOUS!
could this really give u an idea of how it should measure out?
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I just did a cardboard mock up of the size (just a hair over 5" x 2.5" and yes I stole the idea from another poster) and I think people are grossly over estimating how big this phone will be. It is only about .5" taller than my Storm2 and easily fits in my pocket with no effort at all.

Just my .02 on the matter but it was one more think that is making this phone a definite buy for me.
I've been saying the same thing ever since I saw the dimensions (except that I have a Storm 1).

Oh, and the screen is almost a full inch larger than the Storm
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