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Old May 26th, 2011, 08:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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a little background....had the DX1, sold it and got the iPhone when it came out...had an upgrade on my account so I got the Fascinate, returned it and went back to the iPhone...got the Incredible2 when it came out, returned it and went back to the iPhone...got the DX2 yesterday, returned it and went back to the iPhone...

DX1 - sent sms messages to the wrong contacts (not acceptable)
Fascinate - not bad, just wasn't worth wasting an upgrade on
Incredible2 - loved it, until the ear-piece speaker blew and sounded like crap (quality?)
DX2 - choppy when scrolling, ghosting effect with icons when sliding screens, various other small things that added up to me just not liking it at all

bottom line is I like android and have had many many android phones (more than what is listed here)...but after having the iPhone and iOS, android still feels like it's in beta testing and not quite finished or ready for public use. I am not an apple "fanboy" by any means...you can see I've tried going back to android and honestly it feels like an inferior product to me now.

just thought I'd share my experience in case someone (like me) is throwing around the idea of switching.

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Not having the issues you mention, so either I have a lower cycle for eye to brain updates or yours is super-sensitive

Seems you are destined for the iPhone, since the issues mentioned pale in relation to issues with the other VZW options. They ALL gots' some form of issue.
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I use to get pissy with people talking "bad" about android when comparing it to iOS also...until I tried it and saw for myself.
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All below is IMHO, obviously...

iPhone still beats Android overall for a very smooth UI/interface...if that's a top priority, then iPhone is the way to go.

iPhone lacks in areas including stock (unrooted) customization capabilities (choosing what IM app, keyboard, browser I want to use), swype and swype-like keyboards, built in voice nav, home-screen customization & widgets, and flash support.

My wife just chose between iPhone and Android, and went w/Android for the above reasons, one of her best friends went w/iPhone for the above reasons. Personal choices, both were right.
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Well... there is no perfect phone so everyone that tries a Droid X2 dont have to like it.

Like there are ppl that left the iPhone for Android and are happy, there are ppl that left Android for the iPhone and are happy.

There are ppl that left the Incredible for the Droid X and are happy, and ppl that left the Droid X for the Incredible and are happy.

Same for ppl leaving the Droid X for the Fascinate and vice versa.

I wouldnt go as far as to say Android still feels like it's in beta testing and not quite finished or ready for public use. My girlfriend, who had a Blackberry, begs to differ...she wont give me back my Droid X...she had it for going on 3 weeks now....me coming from the old Win Mo (had the Omnia 1 in 2008), I would have to disagree too.

But, to each his own...
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All below is IMHO, obviously...

iPhone still beats Android overall for a very smooth UI/interface...if that's a top priority, then iPhone is the way to go.

iPhone lacks in areas including stock (unrooted) customization capabilities (choosing what IM app, keyboard, browser I want to use), swype and swype-like keyboards, built in voice nav, home-screen customization & widgets, and flash support.

My wife just chose between iPhone and Android, and went w/Android for the above reasons, one of her best friends went w/iPhone for the above reasons. Personal choices, both were right.
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Well... there is no perfect phone so everyone that tries a Droid X2 dont have to like it.

Like there are ppl that left the iPhone for Android and are happy, there are ppl that left Android for the iPhone and are happy.

There are ppl that left the Incredible for the Droid X and are happy, and ppl that left the Droid X for the Incredible and are happy.

Same for ppl leaving the Droid X for the Fascinate and vice versa.

I wouldnt go as far as to say Android still feels like it's in beta testing and not quite finished or ready for public use. My girlfriend, who had a Blackberry, begs to differ...she wont give me back my Droid X...she had it for going on 3 weeks now....me coming from the old Win Mo (had the Omnia 1 in 2008), I would have to disagree too.

But, to each his own...
Were it not for Flash and the more tech savvy folks, Android would be a far distant second to Apple. If Apple ever feels threatened by Android, they will allow Flash on their devices. Game over then.

Google should thank Apple for being so stubborn and being grudge holders. Hubris is a beeuuuch!
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LOL...I got lucky.

- Certified scuba diver
- Enough "geek" in her to appreciate Android (pretty much hasn't put the phone down since she got it on the weekend)
- Cooks like a trained chef....can walk into a kitchen and create something great from whatever is on-hand
- Career woman, actually brings in a little more than I do
- Still weighs in within about 5lbs of what she did when we were married quite a few moons ago - no thunder thighs!

Me = fat, dumb, and happy. ;-)
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Using iDevice is like living in Apple empire. The mindset of apple lovers is just insane.

Android does a lot more things than iPhone, not just flash. The only thing iPhone got over Android is UI smoothness and total number of apps. But even that will change with Ice Cream supporting hardware acceleration. For now, android needs dual core power, big RAM to come close to UI smoothness of iPhone. UI smoothness of SGSII, Sensation is very close to iPhone4 if not better.
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I actually have that ghosting effect as well, but seriously... You barely notice it, and it's only on the home screen. No apps or games. In fact, it almost looks like an extra animation.

Totally worth it for the dual core.
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Android does a lot more things than iPhone, not just flash. The only thing iPhone got over Android is UI smoothness and total number of apps.
Examples?

Widgets? Don't use em anyway...notifications system? Maybe, but not missing that either...google maps navigation? Sure, but as with most other things, there's an app for that.
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I used an hood touch extensively before moving to a smart phone and personally I could not stand iOS. The notification system was way to intrusive and having to use a PC/MAC to activate a phone feels very counter intuitive.

I am also a big fan of customization. I don't need to root or so custom rims but let me have widgets and choose between different keyboards, media players(though the apple one is excellent) etc...

The other big factor was of course AT&T had horrible coverage in my area. Even if they didn't I would not have bought an iPhone after my previous iOS experiences.

Android is no longer an OS only for tech geeks. 400,000 activations a day pretty clearly shows the general public is buying them as well. I have a good friend who is about as non techie as you could get who was upset her work moved them from a HTC Evolution to an iPhone because she couldn't do widgets among other things on the iPhone 4.

Personally it is each to their own and competition is good for us. I don't think google,apple or Microsoft would be working as hard at innovating if there wasn't fierce competition.
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- Certified scuba diver
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- Cooks like a trained chef....can walk into a kitchen and create something great from whatever is on-hand
- Career woman, actually brings in a little more than I do
- Still weighs in within about 5lbs of what she did when we were married quite a few moons ago - no thunder thighs!

Me = fat, dumb, and happy. ;-)
The bottom two are ditto for me, but I still feel like Al Bundy

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I am more disturbed that I am leaning more into the OP's thinking of returning it. Some much to luv, but some key issues are starting to ruin my impressions.

Hoping I get some solutions that have nothing to do with returning it, because there is a lot of nice stuff with the DX2.
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I am more disturbed that I am leaning more into the OP's thinking of returning it. Some much to luv, but some key issues are starting to ruin my impressions.

Hoping I get some solutions that have nothing to do with returning it, because there is a lot of nice stuff with the DX2.
That's probably my biggest complaint of all...always waiting for the next update to make things all better. Waiting for froyo, finally get it then this/that/the other thing is acting goofy...waiting for 2.2.1 for little bug fixes. Now it's gingerbread...when gingerbread finally gets here, everything will be amazing again...until some little quirky crap happens then everyones gonna be waiting for 2.3.1 or whatever the next version is to fix THOSE bugs. It's a aggravating process.
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Isn't one of the biggest reasons the iphone doesn't have flash is to preserve battery life? Flash can chew through battery faster. Beyond that, iphones are smallish screens. I can't stand the UI and I REALLY like to customize my phone. Plus the general snooty attitude of iphone types is quite annoying and I ain't jumping onto that bandwagon. Very happy with android overall, don't ever see myself jumping ship. That being said, if someone wants the stability out of the box, iphone is better. Just realize you are sacrificing several things for that stability.
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That's probably my biggest complaint of all...always waiting for the next update to make things all better. Waiting for froyo, finally get it then this/that/the other thing is acting goofy...waiting for 2.2.1 for little bug fixes. Now it's gingerbread...when gingerbread finally gets here, everything will be amazing again...until some little quirky crap happens then everyones gonna be waiting for 2.3.1 or whatever the next version is to fix THOSE bugs. It's a aggravating process.

I am hoping I see some solutions, since really want to keep it. My perspective is due to the tight 14 day return window.
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That's probably my biggest complaint of all...always waiting for the next update to make things all better. Waiting for froyo, finally get it then this/that/the other thing is acting goofy...waiting for 2.2.1 for little bug fixes. Now it's gingerbread...when gingerbread finally gets here, everything will be amazing again...until some little quirky crap happens then everyones gonna be waiting for 2.3.1 or whatever the next version is to fix THOSE bugs. It's a aggravating process.
You need to realize that about 90% of android phone users don't care about the OS upgrade or don't even know what version is in their phone. Only android techies like us are complaing on it and most vocal on it. To most others, it's like different iPhone not made by apple.
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You need to realize that about 90% of android phone users don't care about the OS upgrade or don't even know what version is in their phone. Only android techies like us are complaing on it and most vocal on it. To most others, it's like different iPhone not made by apple.
true...they don't know any better. these are the people that I work with and ask my every day "why is my phone doing this?"
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I am seriously considering returning mine as well.I have never returned a phone,ever.The audio skipping,and popping is unacceptable in a device of this caliber.I use my music player every day.My DX never did anything like this.Im really dissapointed in Motorola...also the internal storage baffles me,Im almost out of app room,and ive installed only a few apps! Bloatware is out of control...Im not rooting it until I know im keeping it....right now Im just not feeling the love...I guess I expected too much,with same processor,and more ram,I thought it would be close to being as fast as my gtablet,and its not even close....its sluggish at times,for no reason,sometimes if flies,5 minutes later,it lags...Had it 2 fulls days,done 2 factory resets,and activations,without root,its a slow process,not having a known good backup to go to....
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I am seriously considering returning mine as well.I have never returned a phone,ever.The audio skipping,and popping is unacceptable in a device of this caliber.I use my music player every day.My DX never did anything like this.Im really dissapointed in Motorola...also the internal storage baffles me,Im almost out of app room,and ive installed only a few apps! Bloatware is out of control...Im not rooting it until I know im keeping it....right now Im just not feeling the love...I guess I expected too much,with same processor,and more ram,I thought it would be close to being as fast as my gtablet,and its not even close....its sluggish at times,for no reason,sometimes if flies,5 minutes later,it lags...Had it 2 fulls days,done 2 factory resets,and activations,without root,its a slow process,not having a known good backup to go to....
If I had a longer return window, I would deal with it and see if any fixes come our way, but less than two weeks now to deal with (for me):

1. Sound pops, cracks and skips that get REALLY bad if try to multitask while playing tunes. My Inc has no issues like this and neither does my gTablet that has the same chipset as the DX2.

2. The device heats up sometimes to 113 degrees, which for a phone with no way to dissipate heat, is too hot. The 45nm Tegra 2 should run cooler than the 65nm 8650 in my Incredible- not hotter. Something is not right.

3. My Incredible has no problem linking to non-mobile Flash sites, but regardless of the browser I use, almost all Flash sites (except Youtube) are mobile versions. I can NOT figure it out why. It worked for a few hours yesterday, but back to mobile sites.

3. Though trivial, the signal bars are on crack and do not correlate to the signal. The bars can show four bars, even at 96dbm

4. Some of my favorite games will not install, such as Air Attack 3D and Meteor Blitz will not install. There is a workaround for other games that do not like the way the DX2 is mapped for sdcard, but some games will not install.

30 day window would make the decision easier to wait.
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Considering returning mine now as well...so frustrating! Waited six months for what I thought was a good phone...I may jump ship to Apple...I shudder at the thought...but this is the second Android device that has caused me fits!

The constant lag during video recording is ridiculous!

Half of the games lag during play...I thought this device was dual core??!?

Overall device lags after being on for a while, shouldn't have to turn phone off two or three times a day to get the phone to work properly...
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I will decide in a few more days,I dont want it more than a week if its going back....get it over with...I thought the tegra 2 would give me snappy performance like the gtab,but thats not the case,motoblur or something has bogged it down...Im not sure I want to wait months for a fix that may never come.IMO,there is room for a phone manufacturer who uses hardware,radios and build quality of motorola,with an open bootloader,real software,and R&D dept....no way anyone at moto would have released this phone with the audio issues,I dont think they even tested it....
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Glad to see I'm not alone...honestly I would have kept my incredible2 had it not been for the earpiece speaker blowing out after only one week...that phone was way snappier and more polished than the dx2
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I like the DX2 a lot, in spite of the issues, but need all but the signal bar issue fixed. I can deal with that, since if the web is slow or Netflix looks like moving Lego blocks, I know the four bars ain't "4 bars".

I am going to ask VZW what can done, considering the issues, perhaps they can extend the return window.... Long shot, but I really like the DX2, if/when it works correctly.
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Wow, it looks like DX2 is having serious trouble with lags, memory leak bogging it down quick. Is it due to you guys doing games, videos heavily? Hope it's fine for normal usage with phone, emails, browsing, SNS, etc. It's not acceptable for me having to reboot phone multiple times a day.
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Wow, it looks like DX2 is having serious trouble with lags, memory leak bogging it down quick. Is it due to you guys doing games, videos heavily? Hope it's fine for normal usage with phone, emails, browsing, SNS, etc. It's not acceptable for me having to reboot phone multiple times a day.
Normal usage has been fine for me. No reboots required yet.
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Wow, it looks like DX2 is having serious trouble with lags, memory leak bogging it down quick. Is it due to you guys doing games, videos heavily? Hope it's fine for normal usage with phone, emails, browsing, SNS, etc. It's not acceptable for me having to reboot phone multiple times a day.

Not sure, but seems obvious now why no LTE in the device. Heat, baby!

I will test more today and see what combo of actions cause issues. MP3 skipping happens regardless of app used and worse if multitasking, but movies off card and Flash play fine. Strange.

Will test to see if issues are random or reasoned.
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a little background....had the DX1, sold it and got the iPhone when it came out...had an upgrade on my account so I got the Fascinate, returned it and went back to the iPhone...got the Incredible2 when it came out, returned it and went back to the iPhone...got the DX2 yesterday, returned it and went back to the iPhone...

DX1 - sent sms messages to the wrong contacts (not acceptable)
Fascinate - not bad, just wasn't worth wasting an upgrade on
Incredible2 - loved it, until the ear-piece speaker blew and sounded like crap (quality?)
DX2 - choppy when scrolling, ghosting effect with icons when sliding screens, various other small things that added up to me just not liking it at all

bottom line is I like android and have had many many android phones (more than what is listed here)...but after having the iPhone and iOS, android still feels like it's in beta testing and not quite finished or ready for public use. I am not an apple "fanboy" by any means...you can see I've tried going back to android and honestly it feels like an inferior product to me now.

just thought I'd share my experience in case someone (like me) is throwing around the idea of switching.
I think Android vs iOS goes deeper than what you describe. That said not disagreeing with much of what you said. I do get frustrated with Android time to time. But to have control of my device is well worth the cons. Apple is too overbearing, it's their core philosophy that prevents me from giving them any money. Nothing to do with which product is better. (Just speaking for myself here). Also items like, 'App Store does not mean a store for apps' Really apple? really?? Who tries to patent 'App Store' anyway?

Just my two cents...
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The issue here is the fact the iOS is more polished and has less bugs and fragmentation issues
where as Android has more bugs (each phone has certain bugs, cannot deny that)
and it is certainly fragmented. its a shame but its the honest truth.

no one can deny the iphone is an amazing phone, and every top end android phone out is listed as an iPhone killer, but yet no such phone has done it yet.

each and every phone has its problems, in reference to the phone i have, the DX1 had restarting issues, and the text messages sent to wrong contacts, which is a big issue to alot of people including myself, but i stuck with it, and never experienced the sms bug, but did experience the restarting issue alot. but it no longer happens

the iphone cant say many bad things about it, i have heard it does have an sms bug that will periodically or randomly send the text to the wrong person, or select the wrong person, one of the two.

Android is far from perfect. mainly because of the bloat manufacturers include in it.
where as the iphone is made by apple(with samsung products) but it is made by one manufacturer only, each iphone does the same thing and has the same features, but not all of them are the same, because no 2 phones are made perfect

each android is similar in the os, but not similar in the hardware, or bloat that is loaded. the iphone is an amazing phone, but android is not far from being better than the iphone.

there are hardcore android users, and hardcore iphone users, but you must realize it is just a phone. both are amazing, and neither should be considered worse than the other. because i dont know about any of you but i do not know any other 2 phone OS' that run as smooth as these 2 do. so i say give them both credit, both os' are amazing and shouldnt be hated on.
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i do not hate on any phone, but hunterofshadows has a point, i wouldnt get the iphone just because of steve jobs philosophy, the phone is great, dont get me wrong, but when it comes to the turtle neck ninja, i rather stay away. steve jobs is the biggest android hater of them all. and when you go around sueing android manufacturers for patent infringments... or sueing your hardware provider (samsung) because their phone looks similar..... are you serious? so a phone cannot be rectangular and have 1 button????? if anything the droid incredible, looks more like an iphone from the front that any samsung product. just my opinion

the patent wars need to stop but that wont happen lol
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The issue here is the fact the iOS is more polished and has less bugs and fragmentation issues
where as Android has more bugs (each phone has certain bugs, cannot deny that)
and it is certainly fragmented. its a shame but its the honest truth.

no one can deny the iphone is an amazing phone, and every top end android phone out is listed as an iPhone killer, but yet no such phone has done it yet.

each and every phone has its problems, in reference to the phone i have, the DX1 had restarting issues, and the text messages sent to wrong contacts, which is a big issue to alot of people including myself, but i stuck with it, and never experienced the sms bug, but did experience the restarting issue alot. but it no longer happens

the iphone cant say many bad things about it, i have heard it does have an sms bug that will periodically or randomly send the text to the wrong person, or select the wrong person, one of the two.

Android is far from perfect. mainly because of the bloat manufacturers include in it.
where as the iphone is made by apple(with samsung products) but it is made by one manufacturer only, each iphone does the same thing and has the same features, but not all of them are the same, because no 2 phones are made perfect

each android is similar in the os, but not similar in the hardware, or bloat that is loaded. the iphone is an amazing phone, but android is not far from being better than the iphone.

there are hardcore android users, and hardcore iphone users, but you must realize it is just a phone. both are amazing, and neither should be considered worse than the other. because i dont know about any of you but i do not know any other 2 phone OS' that run as smooth as these 2 do. so i say give them both credit, both os' are amazing and shouldnt be hated on.
Ahh, your soo wrong, flame flame flame

j/k I agree with much of what you said as well, except that i think there are parts of each that are better than the other. And I think we can give opinions on that. Much of it is in the eye of the beholder of course. But with out trying to use a cliché, I think this closely resembles Mac OS and Linux. The hardcore android users are most likely (imho) very similar to the Linux hardcore.
For better or worse they are dedicated to their os, more because of the idea, and less about quantifying the phones rating. Android/Linux: Open source, with google wanting phones to be open, and unlocked.

All of that said, I have my eye on WP7. I honestly belive that there is a chance that it will take over. iOS is too overbearing, and Android is too open (i love that fact though). But when speaking of the common man/woman, WP7 may represent some of the openness of android, with allowing for some fragmentation (which is good), but much of the polish of iOS. Keep in mind were talking over the next few years. Not today.

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I agree - but the real topper to me is Apples purposeful limiting of hardware and functionality just to make another sale. They do it time and time again and people keep going for it so I guess they're on to something but it's not something that I believe is a good thing. They have great hardware, software and thinking but the tactics employed as a business and a "culture" bring my cereal to my mouth.

On to the X2 - I really liked the tegra2, I handled the phone a bit at a store but it just felt to me like they decided to rush it out as fast as they could because it's a tegra2 and people will just buy it for that. It doesn't seem to have any of the "new" features that are or were on the horizon, it seems almost apple-esque honestly to release minimal upgrades and put another numeral on the tail.
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ios hardware accelerated UI is pretty. I've been waiting for an android phone that can match its responsiveness. Looks like I'll be waiting a little longer (sgs2)

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Widgets? Don't use em anyway...notifications system? Maybe, but not missing that either...google maps navigation? Sure, but as with most other things, there's an app for that.
If you don't want widgets, multitasking, or google integration then why didn't you get an iphone in the first place? those are pretty much the biggest complaints that any has with the iphone.

The iphone is great and ios is great too, but those are things I depend on so its kind of a dealbreaker.
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Personally I have not had any problems with my DX2 that would warrant a return. I have had a couple of random reboots one of which was my fault for causing a software conflict.

I don't multitask and listen to music that often so I have not had to deal with the popping noise.
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wp7 may hold some flame of life, but im not so sure it will, i have seen all these wp7 commercials much like the sky diving one, ok flip through your apps to find your camera app, when wp7 pull it out select it and go, im like my X can do the same thing, i just hold down the button there it is, i take a picture, i hit home im done before your wp7, where it shows the other guy falling trying to find his app.. im thinking they dont really know how android users operate.

now if i was married to that woman in the black lingerie my perifirals(dont know how to spell it lol autocheck is not on my work pc) would def notice her, i mean come on. and i always wonder, when someone is on their wp7 phone and sending a text. can they look up while texting? or are their thumbs so fast, they are done in a matter of seconds??

android has the voice to text option, granted its not 100% accurate, but darn close. those commercials are targeted at android only. wp7 may be good, but any android user knows those commercials are far from the truth.
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wp7 may hold some flame of life, but im not so sure it will, i have seen all these wp7 commercials much like the sky diving one, ok flip through your apps to find your camera app, when wp7 pull it out select it and go, im like my X can do the same thing, i just hold down the button there it is, i take a picture, i hit home im done before your wp7, where it shows the other guy falling trying to find his app.. im thinking they dont really know how android users operate.

now if i was married to that woman in the black lingerie my perifirals(dont know how to spell it lol autocheck is not on my work pc) would def notice her, i mean come on. and i always wonder, when someone is on their wp7 phone and sending a text. can they look up while texting? or are their thumbs so fast, they are done in a matter of seconds??

android has the voice to text option, granted its not 100% accurate, but darn close. those commercials are targeted at android only. wp7 may be good, but any android user knows those commercials are far from the truth.
Oh for sure. I don't mean to say today, I am refering to what Microsoft could do if they follow their PC biz model.
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well whats to say google wont develop the chrome os?? if that happens, it may overtake the buggy windows. (if its not buggy itself)

anything can change, and yes i agree, wont happen today, it could happen in the future, cause we all know, nothing last forever, except highlander....
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well whats to say google wont develop the chrome os?? if that happens, it may overtake the buggy windows. (if its not buggy itself)

anything can change, and yes i agree, wont happen today, it could happen in the future, cause we all know, nothing last forever, except highlander....
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LOL, too funny.

Could happen. I personally love android, and just can not do iOS no matter how good it is. And I can admit that there is a lot about the iphone4 that is better than my dual core dx2. But, I just can't make a deal with devil so to speak. I can't support their philosophy. Just how I feel. Isn't even a thought for me. Would love to stay with android forever, but I could see a time where i could possbilty consider WP7 (or 8 or who knows in the future).
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i agree with your post 100%

i dont know if i would go wp7 or 8, there may be something better in the future, we dont yet know
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I think part of iOS smoothness is due to fact that it's smaller simpler OS than android doing smaller number of tasks, let alone supporting hardware acceleration. No widgets, no multitasking, no flash, etc in iOS.

But with dual core chips advancing fast, Ice Cream on the horizon supporting hardware acceleration, android will soon match iOS smoothness in UI. Even now SGSII oversea is getting great receptions and said to be finally darn close to iOS smoothness. I agree that iPhone is smooth, stable, easy to use and offers great out of box experience for most folks but just don't like Apple's attitude and philosophy.
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I think part of iOS smoothness is due to fact that it's smaller simpler OS than android doing smaller number of tasks, let alone supporting hardware acceleration. No widgets, no multitasking, no flash, etc in iOS.

But with dual core chips advancing fast, Ice Cream on the horizon supporting hardware acceleration, android will soon match iOS smoothness in UI. Even now SGSII oversea is getting great receptions and said to be finally darn close to iOS smoothness. I agree that iPhone is smooth, stable, easy to use and offers great out of box experience for most folks but just don't like Apple's attitude and philosophy.
Could not have said it better myself!!
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I think part of iOS smoothness is due to fact that it's smaller simpler OS than android doing smaller number of tasks, let alone supporting hardware acceleration. No widgets, no multitasking, no flash, etc in iOS.

But with dual core chips advancing fast, Ice Cream on the horizon supporting hardware acceleration, android will soon match iOS smoothness in UI. Even now SGSII oversea is getting great receptions and said to be finally darn close to iOS smoothness. I agree that iPhone is smooth, stable, easy to use and offers great out of box experience for most folks but just don't like Apple's attitude and philosophy.
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If you don't want widgets, multitasking, or google integration then why didn't you get an iphone in the first place?
because at&t sucks, and verizon didn't have it....so i used blackberry and android in the meantime. when i got the iphone, i liked it and had no problems but got bored with it and tried going back to android...but then realized i didn't miss much. that, along with all the "bugs" or issues i experienced made me realize that i do not have the patience or tolerance for android and it's better for my blood pressure to just stay with the iphone.
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