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Old November 2nd, 2009, 09:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Motorola site offers a free download of something called "Motorola Media Link" which it claims will enable you to easily move and sync music, photos, and video between your computer and your Android phone -- it claims to work with iTunes and with Windows Media Player.

Have any Phandroids downloaded and installed this? And if so, how is it working?

I am getting a Motorola Droid on Friday and wonder if this download (assuming it works with Android 2.0) is a must-have for me.

Here's link to the info on Motorola website:
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The Motorola site offers a free download of something called "Motorola Media Link" which it claims will enable you to easily move and sync music, photos, and video between your computer and your Android phone -- it claims to work with iTunes and with Windows Media Player.

Have any Phandroids downloaded and installed this? And if so, how is it working?

I am getting a Motorola Droid on Friday and wonder if this download (assuming it works with Android 2.0) is a must-have for me.

Here's link to the info on Motorola website:
Motorola Media Link - Motorola USA

Wow! Looks like a must have to me. That's very cool and not something that I think many are aware of. You essentially have a way to fully back up all your Android data as well as sync your iTunes and Windows Media with your phone! Great find!
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This is pretty awful software. It freezes during syncing like 90% of the time, after which you have to remove and replace the battery from your phone to get access to the SD card back. I got about 75% of the songs I wanted on my phone but can't manage to get the rest without MML freezing. Oh well.
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I had high hopes for that software but was very disappointed. Maybe I wasn't doing something right, but it displayed all music files on my PC in one huge list ("All Music") and there was no way to show folders by artist/album.
That is pretty useless since there's no easy way to choose which music you want to sync. I didn't even try the actual syncing process.
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I must be a lucky one. This software worked great for me. I just had it sync my iTunes playlist that I had for my 8GB iPod and it worked flawlessly. I also set up a photos folder from my BlackBerry to sync and that worked too.
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I have to try it out. I just downloaded it myself
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give them a chance to iron out some kinks...this is a very release and the droid is only days old.
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Has anyone worked with this software a little more in-depth at this point?

I am trying to see if there is a way to organize your music by artist, etc. for quick surfing and playback of uploaded music.

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I tried to use it for about 10 mins and couldn't figure it out. Totally not user friendly. Waste of a download. It's easier just to mount the SB and copy files over.
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I downloaded this and found it pretty easy to sync my phone to my computer with this. It then asked about playlist that I wanted to bring over from iTunes and such, it took FOREVER to actually move all the data from my computer to the phone, would have been much quicker by just moving it from folder to folder, but it worked out well.
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For me, took forever to install then froze and crashed PC when I tried to use.
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I did a little testing of it with files stored locally, but when I discovered that it had no support for network drives I stopped wasting my time.
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Has anyone worked with this software a little more in-depth at this point?

I am trying to see if there is a way to organize your music by artist, etc. for quick surfing and playback of uploaded music.

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In response to both you and others on this thread, I didn't have to do a thing. When the songs synced with my Droid, they went in and display all organized by artist, album, songs or play lists. I didn't have to do anything but sync my music folder.

I did find the software a little tricky to use at first. After going through the initial set up which asks which files you want to sync for which type of media...the usual browse window which you can change, one for each music, pictures, and video, it then takes you on to registering where it hangs. I finally just closed that window, but at least the previous actions took.

When you get back to the home page you see your music files in the center pane and a sync button to the upper right. Normally, you'd think you just click the sync button, but instead you still have to select the music tab (or whichever you want) to sync. Just because you see your music within the center pane doesn't mean it's loaded to sync until you press the music tab.

I've only done this once, so I'm remembering to the best of my ability. However, once I figured it out, it worked beautifully. Like I said, everything ended up in my Droid perfectly arranged by artist, album, song or play list.

For those you have tried it unsuccessfully, I'd try downloading it, again. Perhaps it was in a more beta form. Also, it said you needed to have version 11 of Windows Media (I didn't pay attention to the iTunes requirement because I don't have it), but I don't have WM 11 either, I have version 9. So when executing, it said I need some Microsoft.net or C+++ thing or something (can't remember) which also proceeded to download on top of it. After awhile, this caused the whole thing to freeze at some point, but I just rebooted and ran the execute again and then it worked fine.

I've read elsewhere that some couldn't do it with Windows 7, but that was some time ago, also. I have XP.
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I downloaded media link but haven't installed it yet. I was I little leary because of many of the comments here. I tried something called Double Twist and it seems to work well. Sync up itunes format and other mp3s.
might be a viable option.
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I downloaded MML on an XP desktop to use with WM11 and iTunes. It worked great to get my iTunes playlists on my Droid w/o having to drag/drop every song. It is a little confusing. The program will sync folders with music/pics/videos from your computer but the way I have it set up it will sync the pics I take from the SD file they are stored into to my PC then back to the MML file that the PC syncs with. This duplicates my files. I need to configure it differently, I guess. While difficult now, I think this is (or has the potential to be) the best media manager for android.

I have tried to download MML on my Vista desktop but it won't (despite multiple attempts) intall and work. I intend to put MML on my XP laptop to see how this program deals with one device syncing to multiple machines.

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Going to try it now. DoubleTwist is one of the most pathetic applications I've ever used.

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Not going well so far. I'm running Windows 7 but had to run in XP Compatibility mode to even get it to install...still constantly freezing up for about 2 minutes at a time.
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MML links with iTunes or Windows Media Player but not both at the same time. You can also just use it to import music files not associated with one of those programs.
The program creates a file: sdcard>mobile with subfolders for music, video, pics, and one called mml with iTunes and wmp files within.
The program can be configured to sync with playlists, music, video, and pics in files you choose in the Settings tab of the program. There are sync options to keep or remove files in any/all folders on the handset. This allows you to drop files in these folders all day then mount the SD card and sync at the end of the day.
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For me, took forever to install then froze and crashed PC when I tried to use.
What system/OS are you using? Sounds like Windows7 and Vista are having problems with MML but XP handles it. Anyone else have feedback on what works or doesn't work?
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FWIW, I noticed today that after I got a few upgrades to Windows XP installed, a couple minutes later I received an update for a Motorola driver. Maybe this will help people with newer versions of Windows, too. Perhaps it has been a Microsoft thing all along.
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call me crazy but i think its pretty sad that people need a syncing software to put files on their devices
stupid apple ruins everything
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call me crazy but i think its pretty sad that people need a syncing software to put files on their devices
stupid apple ruins everything
You obviously don't need any software. In fact, I may choose not to use MML to sync my videos and pics if there isn't good interaction with the phone syncing to multiple machines.
The best reason is to have your favorite playlists go straight to the phone instead of using the weak stock player to build playlists one song at a time. The beauty part is that you can change the playlists when they get to the phone... unlike the iPod or iPhone.
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So..I was so excited to be able to move music and photos to my Droid. Installed MML...made the mistake of choosing to sync pix from My Pictures...then, because I obviously didn't want to move 20 years of pix to my phone, I went through and selected which to delete...thinking that it would merely remove them from those files I wanted to sync. NOT SO!!! It deleted them from my hard drive!!!! And they weren't in the recycle bin..and system restore didn't put them back! Now I'm pretty much out of luck unless my online backup service can't restore them.
The "help" for this application is terrible...just a warning to all who want to use it...
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Media Link directions are pretty lame, but if you have the correct settings it actually works well. First you need to tell Media link where your music playlists are. Look at the top tabs and click on settings, then on the left side click on music. You should see choices Itunes or Windows Media, select correct one. Go back to the top list of tabs and click on music tab, your itunes or windows media playlists should be listed. Select one playlist and then attach your Droid via USB, be sure to mount (notifier bar on top press on the USB symbol and mount it). Then hit sync in your music tab page. If your Droid is properly mounted a sync window will come up and, THIS IS IMPORTANT, look at the music tab in the Sync window, the default setting are really weird (they copy from phone to computer then duplicate the songs on your computer stupid) so you need to set them to copy songs to the Droid. After making the correct settings finish up your syncing. If these settings are correct it will tell you how many songs it is transfering if it just churns the settings are wrong and you will need to cancel and disconnect the Droid from the computer. (Do it properly via disconnect hardware in windows don't just yank it out!) If the settings are correct the Album, artist, title, and album art will show up in your Droid. Note it will not transfer DRM protected (err.....infected) music.
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Media Link directions are pretty lame, but if you have the correct settings it actually works well. First you need to tell Media link where your music playlists are. Look at the top tabs and click on settings, then on the left side click on music. You should see choices Itunes or Windows Media, select correct one. Go back to the top list of tabs and click on music tab, your itunes or windows media playlists should be listed. Select one playlist and then attach your Droid via USB, be sure to mount (notifier bar on top press on the USB symbol and mount it). Then hit sync in your music tab page. If your Droid is properly mounted a sync window will come up and, THIS IS IMPORTANT, look at the music tab in the Sync window, the default setting are really weird (they copy from phone to computer then duplicate the songs on your computer stupid) so you need to set them to copy songs to the Droid. After making the correct settings finish up your syncing. If these settings are correct it will tell you how many songs it is transfering if it just churns the settings are wrong and you will need to cancel and disconnect the Droid from the computer. (Do it properly via disconnect hardware in windows don't just yank it out!) If the settings are correct the Album, artist, title, and album art will show up in your Droid. Note it will not transfer DRM protected (err.....infected) music.
Huh? Oh right, some iTunes stuff is DRM infected. LOL My Amazon downloads worked fine along with some...uh...less than purchased stuff along with my old CD stuff. And it's Amazon one can thank for putting pressure on Apple by releasing their MP3s DRM-free to finally make Apple go DRM-free. Almost every inch and step that Apple takes forward gets a shove from competition.
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I have tried to download MML on my Vista desktop but it won't (despite multiple attempts) intall and work.
Same problem, except I'm using Win7, and it still wont' install. The process starts, then just disappears. I mount the USB card and do it that way, a lot simpler using good ol Windows Explorer.
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I don't like having to use the playlists. I want to sync by artist. Only option is to sync playlist. Find that kind of annoying. I suppose I could create a motodroid playlist and throw everything I want in there and do it but if they can add playlist syncing why not sync by artist and drag and drop.
I choose to just mount the phone and drag and drop. One less of a piece of software to open up and I can drag all the artists or albums I want in. I use Google listen to sync podcasts automatically so podcasts are a non-issue.
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I have only used it for one thing... transfering my itunes playlists over to the droid. It is the only software that worked for me. I do some DJ work for all kinds of different venues so I have a lot of playlists that took me a very long time to create. There was no way that I was going to transfer one song at a time on to the droid then have to go into the phone to recreate each playlist, so this software was a blessing for me. I just drag and dropped the playlists that I wanted and they all show up on my droid. PERFECT! Everyone is different though, so if your the kind of person who wants to drag and drop each song, then there really isn't a need for this.
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I was going to give MMC a look, but it doesn't support the Mac. I guess they figure all Mac users must also be iPhone fanboys. Oh well.

I used DoubleTwist for a bit, and thought it was OK (I'm surprised Apple doesn't sue -- the interface looks almost identical), but in the end it was easier to just move files back and forth manually.

Truth be told, I find I don't put a lot of music on my Droid since Slacker, Pandora, and Shoutcast give me more than enough enjoyable listening options. I have put a few movies on the phone, but I don't switch them out often. Anything else one might think to sync, I either sync with a cloud app (email, contacts, pictures) or email to my handset and download (wallpapers).
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Yikes!!! You might want to try R-Tools or something similar to try and get your data back. Regardless, that is unacceptable.
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So..I was so excited to be able to move music and photos to my Droid. Installed MML...made the mistake of choosing to sync pix from My Pictures...then, because I obviously didn't want to move 20 years of pix to my phone, I went through and selected which to delete...thinking that it would merely remove them from those files I wanted to sync. NOT SO!!! It deleted them from my hard drive!!!! And they weren't in the recycle bin..and system restore didn't put them back! Now I'm pretty much out of luck unless my online backup service can't restore them.
The "help" for this application is terrible...just a warning to all who want to use it...
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*sigh* i really wanted to like this software

Installation was a fail the first few tries. Finally got it installed (vista ultimate x64) but attempting to sync caused constant program crashes.

After rebooting the PC and proceeding with the registration (which i originally ignored) I finally was able to get to about 40% of my 5gb of photos I tried to sync and then it crashed.

Unmount, kill MML.exe, motoconnect.exe and motoconnectservice.exe and try again.

This time i tried something easier. I created a folder and dropped a few photos in it. I then went to MML > Settings > General > Directories and changed the photo path to the new folder.

I then went to Sync, in the photo section I set:

"Transfer new photos from handset to PC" To Checked
"Delete photos from handset after sync" TO UNCHECKED.

I then checked the "all photos" album which now points to the folder i created above.

It finally synced successfully, but to my dismay I noticed a little something wrong with the results window. It DELETED over 1100 images off of the SD card.

I had a backup but if I didn't all hope isn't lost: Every single image on the device went to "userfolder\pictures\deviceroot\" in the same directory structure they were originally in.

This software is basically an ultimate fail whale. Instead of making it look pretty and have a fancy registration system why doesn't motorola simply stick to the basics?

Backup and sync the data , DONT delete it without consent. Ever!
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i actually paid 29 for the upgrade version like a pooh pooh head. it is not intuituve software thats for sure! but to my surprise it did what i needed it to do which is a trim a video shot with the droid and convert mpg files to mp4 files flawless and quickly so its not a total waste. i wouldnt use it to sync pics and photos just convert vids.
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I downloaded and installed it. Had to reboot the computer twice to finish the install. Every time I tried to open it, it came up with an error. So, I uninstalled it. Frustration = Hulk for me.

I have Motorola Droid and Vista.
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i had trouble too with vista but it eventually took and it works.

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I tried the software for the first time last night. It seemed to work pretty well, although it took about an hour. I told it which playlists I wanted and viola! I have it all set up.

Only problem is the damn thing duplicated a lot of my songs. I have duplicate songs in some playlists but it doesn't duplicate the song in my library with my iTouch. Does anyone know if this is correctable? I really don't like pulling up the "songs" tab and seeing Switchfoot's "Mess of Me" three times. Thanks!
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Good question - I was concerned about something like this as I have many songs duplicated in various play lists as well - thanks for bringing it up, b/c I never got around to installing MML and then between Christmas and New Year's I formatted and did another fresh install of Windows 7....
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This is pretty awful software. It freezes during syncing like 90% of the time, after which you have to remove and replace the battery from your phone to get access to the SD card back. I got about 75% of the songs I wanted on my phone but can't manage to get the rest without MML freezing. Oh well.
Complete opposite experience for me with this software. It works like a charm. SUPER easy and fast. Used with Windows XP.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 12:18 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I sure am glad Motorola sticks to selling hardware, because their software is god awful. I try this dumb program on windows vista(ult) 7(pro) and xp(pro). The stupid program only works with xp, it wont even finish the install in emulation mode on 7.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 02:06 PM   #38 (permalink)
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The software is actually by Nero, and it worked fine for me on Windows Vista (business) 32bit. Synched my iTunes playlists including purchased songs and album art. It is true that it is not very intuitive, it took me a little while to figure out how to set up the sync. Quick hint. Don't create/link playlists in the default area that pops up to the left, that is your PC. You need to expand the area at the bottom left and create/link the playlists on the Droid. If you did what I did and created them on the PC first then wondered why nothing was synching, then created them on the Droid tab, it will create duplicate songs as it synchs your iTunes playlist and your local playlists.
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Old January 19th, 2010, 08:25 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I wasn't very impressed with this software but keep it around in case it gets better. I just fired it up today and noticed that there was an update to 1.00.25. I installed it thinking it might get better in some way but it still looks the same. BTW, this installed flawlessly on my Vista x64 machine.

My favorite sync tool for music is a toss up between doubleTwist and Songbird. DoubleTwist goes the extra mile with video conversion and photo sync and every update of it makes it better and better. I'm torn between Songbird which is a killer player for the PC and doubleTwist which offers the "complete" experience similar to what iTunes does.

I still say the ultimate would be a PC/Droid application package that works together. Full featured PC app to sync and a killer media player to compliment it on the Android OS. I'd pay $30 - $50 for this and can't believe devs haven't picked up on this NEED!
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Old January 19th, 2010, 10:00 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I was disappointed with the software and uninstalled it. It only syncs your music, videos, and pictures. Nothing else. Guess I was spoilt with my last phone where I could sync all my databases as well.
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Old January 20th, 2010, 07:11 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I was disappointed with the software and uninstalled it. It only syncs your music, videos, and pictures. Nothing else. Guess I was spoilt with my last phone where I could sync all my databases as well.
I don't think you are going to find much more than the big 3 items to sync. What kind of software allowed you to sync databases???
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Old January 20th, 2010, 09:33 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I had a palm treo. You could sync your calendar and memos as well as your to do list. And there were lots of other apps that synced with your desktop such as handyshopper which is the absolute best grocery shopping app ever made. Much easier than trying to key large amounts of information straight onto the phone's keyboard.
Surely there was something similar for blackberry? I am always being told how great blackberries are!
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Old January 21st, 2010, 05:39 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I was disappointed with the software and uninstalled it. It only syncs your music, videos, and pictures. Nothing else. Guess I was spoilt with my last phone where I could sync all my databases as well.
It is called "Media Link". Is a database a form of media? New to me. By syncing music, video and picture...I think they have all forms of media covered for me.
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I had a palm treo. You could sync your calendar and memos as well as your to do list. And there were lots of other apps that synced with your desktop such as handyshopper which is the absolute best grocery shopping app ever made. Much easier than trying to key large amounts of information straight onto the phone's keyboard.
Surely there was something similar for blackberry? I am always being told how great blackberries are!
Syncing that stuff with your desktop was so 1990's! The whole idea of smart phones today is that you use them for those types of tasks *instead* of your desktop. And then you sync them either with something in the cloud or simply backup what you have on them.
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can I download it now?
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 06:54 AM   #46 (permalink)
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The current download of this MML software no longer supports the original Droid.

I installed a new hard drive into my computer and had to reinstall Windows XP. Downloading and installing the current version of the MML software made it completely useless for those of us with still-perfectly-fine older Droids.
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and the newest one out is powered by Nero....even worst....
stay away from heard of people losing stuff from being corrupted on their computers from trying to sync.....so if you try it make sure trying from a copy and protect your originals
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