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Old November 17th, 2009, 02:19 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Has anyone got it to fire the flash in your own application under any circumstance? (e.g. actually taking a picture)

edit:
Just after I posted this... I actually got a flash.

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Apparently there was a silent update to the camera app... or camera hardware drivers... over the last couple of days. Perhaps the torch flash mode has been enabled as a consequence? Bears looking into.
Actually, there was not an update. The camera started working due to a time related software bug - the same bug will cause it to stop working again in 24 days (unless a fix is pushed OTA).
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Has anyone got it to fire the flash in your own application under any circumstance? (e.g. actually taking a picture)

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you got a flash by simulating taking a picture with code?
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you got a flash by simulating taking a picture with code?
Yes Making progress.
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Yes Making progress.
are you using the autoFocus method? I have the code, and I get access to the camera, but the flash doesn't come on. I've tried setting the flash to ON and to AUTO and neither will cause the flash to come on.
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I actually have something WORKING! Still have some issues to work through, but I have a consistent LED Light. Well almost consistent

Using FLASH_MODE_ON.
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Old November 17th, 2009, 05:14 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Awesome
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Old November 17th, 2009, 05:16 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Atleast we know its possible
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I actually have something WORKING! Still have some issues to work through, but I have a consistent LED Light. Well almost consistent

Using FLASH_MODE_ON.
Nice, keep us updated.
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Awesome!! Looking forward to this app, thanks for working on it!
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Really hope you guys can figure this out!
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Get this app working and I will be one of the first to buy or donate
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Old November 18th, 2009, 12:34 AM   #65 (permalink)
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I'm pulling for y'all on this one. That dual LED would blow every other mobile flashlight out of the water.

As for battery life--I only ever use the flashlight for 5 or 10 seconds at a time; 20 minutes sounds like an eternity!
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So the big issue so far is getting a nice constant light instead of it cutting off every couple of seconds and then coming back. I think I can improve it with some careful timing instead of the hack I am using right now. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be direct access to just turn on the LEDs.
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So the big issue so far is getting a nice constant light instead of it cutting off every couple of seconds and then coming back. I think I can improve it with some careful timing instead of the hack I am using right now. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be direct access to just turn on the LEDs.
are you focusing? or taking pictures? Also, are you doing an app or a widget? I was doing a widget. I was wondering if that's why mine wasn't working. I was planning on moving the code to an Activity to test it.
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are you focusing? or taking pictures? Also, are you doing an app or a widget? I was doing a widget. I was wondering if that's why mine wasn't working. I was planning on moving the code to an Activity to test it.
Focusing in an app.
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Yeah, i thought there might be some success looping through a routine that continually fires commands to auto focus with the flash mode set to Auto. When the sensor detects darkness, it fires the flash so the auto focus can function properly (and so the shooter can see whats being focused on). Obviously, this will be inferior to an application that can use the built in functionality to just keep the flash on natively.

Ideally, we'd like to have access to the LED's without having to fire up the camera and burn through the battery.
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Old November 18th, 2009, 10:10 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Yeah, i thought there might be some success looping through a routine that continually fires commands to auto focus with the flash mode set to Auto. When the sensor detects darkness, it fires the flash so the auto focus can function properly (and so the shooter can see whats being focused on). Obviously, this will be inferior to an application that can use the built in functionality to just keep the flash on natively.

Ideally, we'd like to have access to the LED's without having to fire up the camera and burn through the battery.
Even if the Motorola updates the phone to include the missing flash mode that we need, we will still need to "use" the camera, since the only access to the LED flash is through the camera. I guess Google could update Android to handle the camera LEDs differently, but I don't see them doing that.
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True... though in that case you could just... well... use the camera and not an external app.
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True... though in that case you could just... well... use the camera and not an external app.
but the camera is slow loading(atleast currently).
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True... though in that case you could just... well... use the camera and not an external app.
Just because they expose the torch flash mode doesn't mean the camera app will support it. Also, just because you are "using" the camera to turn on the LEDs doesn't mean you can't build your interface around controlling the light.
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All are valid points. Yeah, i guess we'd be writing a camera app that doesnt use the camera.
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Old November 18th, 2009, 01:13 PM   #76 (permalink)
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woot....ok..got the flash to come on
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Nice! Yeah, i've got some catching up to do obviously, but i'm sure it won't be that hard. Are you basically doing the whole make it autofocus thing?
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Nice! Yeah, i've got some catching up to do obviously, but i'm sure it won't be that hard. Are you basically doing the whole make it autofocus thing?
yeah....I am at the same point as Chet. I can get it to keep autofocusing but there is a pause between each one....so it's kinda like a strobe light.
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Interesting. Sounds like we'll have to wait and see what the December 11th update is going to include. Hopefully they'll toss in the torch and red eye modes.
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yeah....I am at the same point as Chet. I can get it to keep autofocusing but there is a pause between each one....so it's kinda like a strobe light.
What mechanism are you using to get continuous auto-focusing? I have tried two.
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What mechanism are you using to get continuous auto-focusing? I have tried two.
with a while loop. inside of it, I do the autoFocus method.

This is done in a background thread.

I can get it down to about 1 second or a little less, but there's still that "off" period that makes it a strobe light.

Also, if I don't show the Preview on the screen, the flash doesn't come on. Don't know how to get around that.
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Also, if I don't show the Preview on the screen, the flash doesn't come on. Don't know how to get around that.
autoFocus is only valid after startPreview() has been called. However, I have found that you can call stopPreview() immediately after startPreview(). You never see the preview and the flash still works.
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with a while loop. inside of it, I do the autoFocus method.

This is done in a background thread.

I can get it down to about 1 second or a little less, but there's still that "off" period that makes it a strobe light.
I am getting better results from putting an autoFocus call in the onAutoFocus callback.
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I am getting better results from putting an autoFocus call in the onAutoFocus callback.
I had it there, but the "off" period was still pretty long. I was able to get the "off" period to be shorter with the background thread.
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autoFocus is only valid after startPreview() has been called. However, I have found that you can call stopPreview() immediately after startPreview(). You never see the preview and the flash still works.
awesome...so that part is fixed now. so I guess we are at the same point. Figuring out the "off" period between the flashes.
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I had it there, but the "off" period was still pretty long. I was able to get the "off" period to be shorter with the background thread.
hum... so how often are you calling autofocus in your background thread? infinite loop or a timer? I was running a timer before and was getting more off period. I believe the timer's run method is executed in its own thread.
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hum... so how often are you calling autofocus in your background thread? infinite loop or a timer? I was running a timer before and was getting more off period. I believe the timer's run method is executed in its own thread.
infinite until a button is clicked. the while loop checks a public variable for the class. if that variable is true, it continues to call the autoFocus(). so when the button is clicked, I just set that value to false, and it stops.
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Got it working straight-up! no auto focusing tricks!

more to come...
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Got it working straight-up! no auto focusing tricks!

more to come...
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more to come...
Sweet...anxiously awaiting!!!
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DroidLight appears to have been removed for some reason.
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Is it simply a combination of the camera settings?
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Is it simply a combination of the camera settings?
No. Nothing to do with the camera. This is the direct "turn it on" command we were looking for.
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Ok, so who would like to try it out? I am willing to email my test .apk if someone wants to test it. You will have to enable installing apps from "Unknown Sources".
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Hello Chet,
Thanks for working on this project, I'm about to start tackling progging on android soon. I am willing to beta this for you. If interested...


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Ok, so who would like to try it out? I am willing to email my test .apk if someone wants to test it. You will have to enable installing apps from "Unknown Sources".
Ill test as well. Sublimnl at yahoo dot com
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