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Old November 13th, 2009, 03:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just tried to install my full body invisibleSHIELD glove...I can't say I'm very impressed. The screen piece did not go well at all...and has been removed and discarded. Every other piece ended up being either 2-3mm too long or too short. This was fairly easy to overcome with the side pieces...but the screen piece was slightly too large as well, and seeing as the glass is just barely sunk beneath the rest of the casing, it was obvious how bad the fit was.

I thought Verizon had a scratch guard film that fit the Droid, does anyone know if it's as good? If so, will they install? I don't want to wait another week for a screen piece from Zagg...especially when I know the install won't go well.

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I returned my vzw screen protectors today, they don't cover the bottom buttons (back, menu, home, search) and I've been told by quite a few people they degrade the sensitivity of the touch. But I'm hearing conflicting info on others like zagg that do that too, so now I'm not sure which I'll get.
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Old November 13th, 2009, 10:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I bought my unit at Best Buy along with the screen procetor. BB install the shield, as my hands aren't too steady. It had several wrinkles that the girl said shoud go away after 24-48 hours. They did not. Took it back and she tried again but failed. A second sales person tried with two more packages and although it look better I am not the least bit satisfied. I hear there is another type the goes over the entire phone in two peices. Anyone know the name of the product and if it would be worth it? It also comes with a "lifetime" warranty.
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I got Ghost Armor done on mine, not sure where all they're located, I know they're here in the Phoenix area, a couple at Best Buy's.

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Mine was a custom fit, as the kit wasn't available and I just wanted the screen done. I'm 100% happy with it. I've had it on my iTouch as well.

Edit: Does help that it was professionally installed.
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Installing the ZAGG Invisible screen is really a tough one.... Good thing I have a steady hand and I took time to install it...

The first time I tried it (Moto Q), it was awfull that I have sent if for replacement after a week. The second try was perfect, since I already know what to do and what to expect...
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I got a 3M shield for mine from eBay/clearfreak.com and it is great. Same material as a Zagg and same installation process, but if you make sure to wash your hands really good and have either a little spray bottle or a bowl of warm water all will go well. I know it is a tough job to get them on right, but just relax and take your time. As long as it is plenty wet you can get it in place properly and then use the squeegee or a credit card to get out the excess water. Give it a good 24-48 hours and it will cure just fine and look great.
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I installed a phantom skinz last night and I'm completely happy with it. No orange peel or tacky feel when touching it, so far I really can't tell its there looking at it.
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+ one for the 3m film from clearfreak. I installed mine last night and am happy with it. You definitely need to use plenty of water. Looking into getting the rest of the kit for the back of the phone.
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I got Ghost Armor done on mine, not sure where all they're located, I know they're here in the Phoenix area, a couple at Best Buy's.

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Mine was a custom fit, as the kit wasn't available and I just wanted the screen done. I'm 100% happy with it. I've had it on my iTouch as well.

Edit: Does help that it was professionally installed.
Agreed get ghost armor.I did.but I live in phoenix too so maybe its only available here
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I returned my vzw screen protectors today, they don't cover the bottom buttons (back, menu, home, search) and I've been told by quite a few people they degrade the sensitivity of the touch. But I'm hearing conflicting info on others like zagg that do that too, so now I'm not sure which I'll get.
I have those as well. They also aren't resistant to fingerprints. If I wanted fingerprints on my screen, I wouldn't have gotten screen protectors. Looks like I will be buying a different set that is resistant to fingerprints.
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I'm not sure how you can mess up the installation of a zagg protector??

You spray both sides with the stuff they provide, and slide it into place. With the use of the spray, you get plenty of attempts at getting it right.

How do you get that wrong?
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I had both invisible shield and phantom skins on my phones in the past.

I like the invisivble shield better as it was easier to install than Phantom skins. The phantom skins can actually rip if you aren't careful while the Zagg stuff is very very tough. I had the InvisibleShield on my LG Voyager for over a year and the phone still looks brand new, as well as the shield. Very durable stuff.

I haven't tried Ghost Armor yet, maybe I will give that a try.
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Finger print resistant is an interesting term. Its not like your finger prints are going to break your screen. It just depends how oily your fingers are. I like ghost armor, its nicer than zagg. Google it and check ouy there website
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Finger print resistant is an interesting term. Its not like your finger prints are going to break your screen. It just depends how oily your fingers are. I like ghost armor, its nicer than zagg. Google it and check ouy there website
but I only want something on the screen, not something on the phone. I have the screen protector on my IPod Touch for more than 6 months and have never had to clean the screen because of my fingerprint. I've had to do it with my DROID twice since putting the screen protector on yesterday.
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I'm not sure how you can mess up the installation of a zagg protector??

You spray both sides with the stuff they provide, and slide it into place. With the use of the spray, you get plenty of attempts at getting it right.

How do you get that wrong?
Did you not read at all or did you just get a kick out of being a jackass? Pieces too large for the device aren't going to go on well. As I said it wasn't a problem for the pieces that went around the edges because I could cut off excess length, or ignore a lack of. The display piece stretched from the very edge of the top (going over the hole for the internal speaker just fine), to going up and over the edge at the bottom of the screen.

It would have been nice as well for them to even give me a spray bottle with their installation solution. Instead, I got a "pouch" with a sponge soaked in it, that wasn't even sealed...so it leaked and completely soaked both my instructions and microfiber cloth. That's not exactly a quality product.
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Maybe you got a bad one then, I've personally never had an issue with Zagg. I'd send them an email letting them know your issues, and they are very, very quick with returns and making things right. As for the solution, it's mainly just water as they state in their FAQ page. So if at first you dont get it right, you can definitely try again with water. I would definitely let them know about the length issue though, if you still don't feel like a replacement is what you want, ask for a refund, and they will accommodate you.
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I'm sure they'll say that the length issue is caused by stretching...but I'm not sure how I could have avoided that when it was probably caused by using the squeegee. I'm definitely sure a spray bottle would have been much nicer than the sponge I had to use.

It seems to me though that once you get an air bubble in it, it's not coming out. My first attempt was on the battery cover. Obviously, as my first attempt, it was bad. I took it off after I finished the rest and retried, overall it is better but the big bubbles are still there, like the bubble caused the film to stretch.
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I installed a phantom skinz last night and I'm completely happy with it. No orange peel or tacky feel when touching it, so far I really can't tell its there looking at it.
+1 Phantom Skinz are my new favorite. Easy installation and non of the orange peel look and gripiness of the others. Price is A+ too!
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Verizon's screen protectors are crap.

I had an invisible shield on but I took it off. I got a Phantom Skinz its really nice. Smooth and glossy not orange peely like Zaggs. Much cheaper too. $10 for 2, free shipping from phantom skinz site. Came in like 3 days.

If you've seen that video, you really don't need a screen protector. I put one one just soley for the fact it lessens the oily smudges from your fingers. And personally I really didn't like the super slick, somewhat slimey feel that the screen has.

note: make sure you keep that lint free cloth that came with your invisisble shield. Phantom Skinz does not come with one.
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I told you guys the zagg protector was lame.

Not to mention its way to draggy, it's not smooth when you slide your finger across the screen.
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i hate those invisible shields, they trap dirt and dust, due to the stickie glue. you phone will soon look like crap like dead bugs on your car windshield..

screen protector is enough.
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Not if you're careful. I've installed a couple before, but this time I left it up to a girl at Best Buy. She accidentally got a piece of dirt in it after she was done. She simply lifted the edge, sprayed solution, got the dirt out and laid it back down.
I love Zagg. So durable. I'm not noticing this drag you guys are complaining of.
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PhantomSkinz take about 2x the time to install but are infinitely BETTER than basically any other protector out there. My Droid screen can now stay flawless and look like the day it was purchased.

On a side-not, has anybody noticed how super scratch resistant the DROID screen is and also how easy it is to clean of dust, prints, and nasty facial oils with a good microfiber cloth?
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has anyone had their protector/shield alter the sensitivity of the screen or the screen being less responsive.
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None whatsoever on my PhantomSkinz.
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Some of you who are complaining of bubbles and whatnot with the Zagg need to remember they take about 24-36 hours to "cure". All of the imperfections will disappear.
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That I will never be able to answer because I will never , not even once ,ever use the device without a protector
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I had the ZAGG and removed it the other day, I am going Naked, I do not know if Best Buy will give me my money back! Anyone know?
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I told you guys the zagg protector was lame.

Not to mention its way to draggy, it's not smooth when you slide your finger across the screen.
that goes away. Only if I've been cleaning with harsh chemicals and my hands are dried and chapped is there drag. After a week or so it smooths out and the drag goes away.

I've got zagg shields on several of my products and it's true for all of them, the drag and bubbles work themselves out and then you've got a very very scratch resistant surface.

Also, and I don't know how this happened, but somehow my G1 is MORE touch sensitive after the zagg was put on.
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I went to the local mall and had Invisible Shield installed at a Zagg reseller mall cart (they installed for $5 - well worth it) on the entire phone and it is working great. My finger glides smoothly on the screen and having it on the back gives it a texture and makes it less slippery.
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I did not take the Zagg off because of lag I took it off because if I put it down on a dirty desk screen down, then it would get indented with any particles such as a bread seed or small crumb etc.. and it would stay there the rest of the day. It would smooth it out later but it did stay there. Also after I had seen the Scratch the Droid screen video I decided to go naked.
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I'm using the verizon protectors myself. I'm not having any issues with it, or any sensitivity loss. Works fine for me.
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OK, first lemme say i have been using invisible shield since before they were bought out by zagg, about 5 years maybe? I have installed it on every single ipod, iphone, cell phone, etc since... I love it. its a 8itch to install, but way worth it for protection. That said... I got my droid, I bought 2 full shields (in case I screw up one of the installs) as I normally do for all my new toys. Jst TONIGHT I was putting it on and I have to say I am not very pleased.

First with the back of the droid being 'rubberish' i dont know if it makes sense to put it on.

Second, this is my first device with the super slick (scratch resistant) screen. Ipods, iphones, pervious winmo phones didnt have this. Putting the zagg shield on it seems a shame since it does add the orange peel effect. On top of that, the screen itself is so crisp and clear, it seems a shame to mar it in ANY way.

So, currently, I do have the zagg shield installed on the back of my phone, not the edges, not the screen. I like that it wont get scratched when I put it on a table. I had installed the front screen shield but removed it almost asap. I did have a piece of 'something' under it, but moreso, there were too many bubbles. and yes I know that it takes time to cure.

I dont really have a point, just sharing my experience. I am gonna try the phantom skin i think, just for the screen. I still have a zagg shield left so I figure its worth trying something new.
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That I will never be able to answer because I will never , not even once ,ever use the device without a protector
sooooooooo TRUE

I STILL have the protector on it that came in the BOX from the factory (just cut off the tab so the corner would not keep coming up). Phantomzkinz arrived today, hopefully I'll have time to install em tomorrow night.

Not sure I like the prospect of leaving my phone off for even a few hours.... it's kinda become surgically attached to my hand, lol....
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OK, first lemme say i have been using invisible shield since before they were bought out by zagg, about 5 years maybe? I have installed it on every single ipod, iphone, cell phone, etc since... I love it. its a 8itch to install, but way worth it for protection. That said... I got my droid, I bought 2 full shields (in case I screw up one of the installs) as I normally do for all my new toys. Jst TONIGHT I was putting it on and I have to say I am not very pleased.

First with the back of the droid being 'rubberish' i dont know if it makes sense to put it on.

Second, this is my first device with the super slick (scratch resistant) screen. Ipods, iphones, pervious winmo phones didnt have this. Putting the zagg shield on it seems a shame since it does add the orange peel effect. On top of that, the screen itself is so crisp and clear, it seems a shame to mar it in ANY way.

So, currently, I do have the zagg shield installed on the back of my phone, not the edges, not the screen. I like that it wont get scratched when I put it on a table. I had installed the front screen shield but removed it almost asap. I did have a piece of 'something' under it, but moreso, there were too many bubbles. and yes I know that it takes time to cure.

I dont really have a point, just sharing my experience. I am gonna try the phantom skin i think, just for the screen. I still have a zagg shield left so I figure its worth trying something new.
I agree with every sentiment here including not liking Zagg for the screen , Phantom Skinz are great for the screen, and I opted for the screen only on this device because I dont see the rubberized back needing anything more.

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I STILL have the protector on it that came in the BOX from the factory (just cut off the tab so the corner would not keep coming up). Phantomzkinz arrived today, hopefully I'll have time to install em tomorrow night.

Not sure I like the prospect of leaving my phone off for even a few hours.... it's kinda become surgically attached to my hand, lol....
I ALWAYS cut the tab and use that film until my 'real' protector gets here lol.

Leaving it turned off for 24-48 hours is not an option for me the same as you. The best you can do is apply it right before bed and let it sit overnight. then you wake up to a shiny protected baby and can touch it all you want
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I'll have to look into the PhantomSkinz for the screen (though I'm tempted to automatically hate products that replace an "s" with a "z")...

First day yesterday going with the Zagg in the pocket. This product will without a doubt be removed and thrown away. I was absolutely astonished at how it managed to pick up (and won't let go of!) every microfiber of lint in my pocket.

I guess the only thing I've ever really worried about is the screen. Hell my previous phone (razr2) went a year and a half with not much more than the one gouge from a single bad drop.
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I bought the zagg invisibleshield for just the screen, and so far I think it's great.

At first I had the best buy folk do it, but they left a bit of the shield overhanging the top, so when I got home I pulled it off and re did it myself.

The cut size is perfect.

A couple things i noticed though:

-it does make sliding your finger on the screen a bit less smooth
-there may be a very slight reduction in touch responsiveness
-you get a different sheen from the screen, a bit less impressive


That said, I'm a lot less nervous about putting the phone in my pocket or having some random folk play with it. The issues I mentioned aren't enough to make me want to remove it.

I won't be getting the invisible shield for the body though. I'm going to wait to see what happens with cases.
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Putting the zagg shield on it seems a shame since it does add the orange peel effect. On top of that, the screen itself is so crisp and clear, it seems a shame to mar it in ANY way.
Well said. I'm still up in the air about keeping this thing on. MY install went perfectly and I've got no bubbles or anything of the like, but you do get somewhat of an "orange peel" effect as you called it. I can only really notice this when there's a glare on the screen though.

As of right now, I'm pretty set on keeping it on. It has done WONDERS for keeping smudges and oily marks off the screen. I'm actually shocked on how well it works in that respect. So for now it definitely stays.
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Got Zagg shield yesterday, and spent the night in a dust free bathroom putting it on.
My only complaint thus far is that the pieces do NOT wrap around the corners. So every corner of my phone is uncovered. I don't understand why they were cut that way???
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I have seen little reason for a screen protector....
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I agree with every sentiment here including not liking Zagg for the screen , Phantom Skinz are great for the screen, and I opted for the screen only on this device because I dont see the rubberized back needing anything more.
Those rubberized/soft touch materials actually get really worn out after a few months. You start to see little blemishes and imperfections especially if you ever set it down on a table that is dirty. I would actually recommend a body shield over a screen protector (although I have both).
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Got Zagg shield yesterday, and spent the night in a dust free bathroom putting it on.
My only complaint thus far is that the pieces do NOT wrap around the corners. So every corner of my phone is uncovered. I don't understand why they were cut that way???
I agree completely, the zagg shields i have used in the past didnt have this issue, meaning that they were very much precision cut to cover the WHOLE phone (previous phone was a winmo Samsung Omnia, shield for that was perfect.) My only guess is that they wanted to get a shield out ASAP and will come up with a better version in the future. This was the case with my first iphone.
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Those rubberized/soft touch materials actually get really worn out after a few months. You start to see little blemishes and imperfections especially if you ever set it down on a table that is dirty. I would actually recommend a body shield over a screen protector (although I have both).
I think you may be right. Since I have aplied the zagg shield to the phone already, I may keep it on the back to protect it, then throw the phantom on the screen. BTW, anyone notice that VZW has spare back battery panels/covers for sale? Not sure why exactly but for $5, I bought one, figured its always good to get a spare.... Enter your location
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Quick question does Ghost Armor have the orange peel feel to it? I bought a InvisibleShield and for somereason with a micro fibre cloth it got scratched... I got it in on tuesday. Tuesday night it was done. Thank god I had the verizon ones too. I ordered a replacement will have it tomorrow. But I dont like the orange peel feel. So Ghost Armor?
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I got zagg shields and vzw screen protector. Best of both worlds imo. No fit or sensitivity problems with either. Did you guys with sensitivity problems try adjusting it in settings?
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I got zagg shields and vzw screen protector. Best of both worlds imo. No fit or sensitivity problems with either. Did you guys with sensitivity problems try adjusting it in settings?
What settings? There aren't any that I know of...
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Do NOT use the Zagg invisible shield on your screen! Its by far the WORST screen protector out there. The clarity is awful and the screen protector feels like rubber and grips your finger when sliding it around the screen. Not only is the Zagg shield not full transparent it also produces MAJOR Orange Peel across the screen which makes thins even worse.

Zagg invisible shield was designed for the BODY of devices, not the screens. The material used is NOT fully transparent and its a GLUE based application.

Silicon based non-adhesive screen protectors are the ONLY kind of screen protectors you should be buying.

Zagg invisible shield is thicker than silicon based protectors which can reduce screen touch sensitivity and on top of that its has a rubbery feel to it that grips your finger and prevents it from sliding around on the screen, its an adhesive GLUE based application which is why its so unclear.

The material has a rubbery feel to it because it was designed to cover the BODY of devices that are held in your hand so they wont slip out. This is the OPPOSITE of what you want on your screen.

Ive been using screen protectors for many years and this is by FAR the worse SCREEN protector out there. Dont get me wrong, Its a fantastic body protector just dont put that material on you screen!!!!
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I have read the entire thread - I have seen a lot of rhetoric about Zagg, a couple of mentions of PhantomSkinz and a couple for Ghost Armor.

If I do this, I am not using the enclosed screen protector as the one from VZW works just fine for me. I want the body covered, though, to protect against scratches, etc.

My question is this - do any of these products cover the corners and edges of the case? Otherwise it seems kinda pointless - I mean, the broad sides are not as likely to sustain damage as much as the corners and edges, at least in my experience with previous phones.
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What settings? There aren't any that I know of...
The vzw protectors had a sticker that said to adjust the settings, but now that I look, I don't see the settings either.

The invisible shield has stickers for the sides, but they don't overlap so it misses the corners. If you squigee it down good it'll cut down on the orange peel, but you'll still get some. The vzw screen protectors have zero orange peel and are fairly slick, but they're hard to put on right and don't cover the android keys.
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