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Old January 25th, 2010, 01:27 PM   #201 (permalink)
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I think that it would be super cool if someone tested battery life with and w/o a task killer

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I think that it would be super cool if someone tested battery life with and w/o a task killer
its been done informally many times. every time battery life was better w/o. however, i don't think anyone is suggesting an always running task killer is beneficial. i think most people in this thread that are for tk's are suggesting that restricting what starts up automatically and killing tasks once in a while throughout the day are where the use is.
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its been done informally many times. every time battery life was better w/o. however, i don't think anyone is suggesting an always running task killer is beneficial. i think most people in this thread that are for tk's are suggesting that restricting what starts up automatically and killing tasks once in a while throughout the day are where the use is.
When you tested this did you have the app always running in the background or did you not even open it once. Because I have mine installed but I only open it when I have been using my droid heavily and I know I have a lot of apps running. Do you think that this still affects my batter life?
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When you tested this did you have the app always running in the background or did you not even open it once. Because I have mine installed but I only open it when I have been using my droid heavily and I know I have a lot of apps running. Do you think that this still affects my batter life?
i've tested it on my own with only open/closing. but plenty of others in the forums have tested it with it running int the background and said it makes things worse.
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Personally i think that it does no harm to the phone when it is not running, but im no expert (:
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FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android Geek For Me – Android CDMA Sprint Hero

In a nutshell-Uninstall Task killers, and battery life/memory usage/phone performance will increase.
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Ok, so I get an email directly from verizon with tips on how to use the droid. It specifically states to download task killer free from the market. Is this strange or what?
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LOL, i just started a thread because I got that same email.
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You can believe what you want, but i was a regular Kill all apps kinda guy but then i decided to try out uninstalling it and i think that it improved many aspects to my phone
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I have read all the threads on this topic and am experiencing exact opposite results that all of you have had with task killers. My Droid Eris has seemed to slow down even more now that I have uninstalled my task killer and freezes more often with all my apps taking longer to load. Simple text msg with Handcent has proven to be a task since the uninstall of ANY task manager. Any ideas? Getting ready to go back to my BB Storm! Don't really want to....!
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Question get rid of my ATK

I have read thru most of this thread and feel enlightened enough to get rid of my Advanced Task Killer.

I still have one question: When I restart my phone I notice a few apps start up also, some from the Market & some preinstalled with the phone. Many have mentioned that there is a place one can go to kill unwanted tasks running (I have a note app from the market that starts when I reboot. Why it starts I have no idea, but I don't need to use it so I'm thinking I should just kill it. Some of you have made me paranoid by referring to poorly written apps\poor dev's.

I have a G1 and I don't know where to go into my OS naturally to kill "poorly written apps". Is this something I should worry about or should I just let G1 do what it is designed to do?
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OK, I shut off cell, rebooted & noted apps that started w\reboot. I went into those apps & there was an option to NOT start at beginning of the start of background svc's. There were only 4 apps that started @ reboot, 3 from Market & 1 called 'My Uploads', which looks like an OS thing. The only on from Market I couldn't stop upon reboot was the app that keeps your screen from auto shut-off after a period of non use (this app is surprisingly made by the some person who made Advanced Task Killer). While I didn't stop it I did limit the amount of apps I wanted to keep the screen on). I uninstalled ATK, rebooted.

I saw a change instantly! My cell rebooted in less than half the time it used to. When it was done rebooting, I long pressed the home key to see what was running in the background...the screen said, "NOTHING"!

I am sold just on these two things alone! Now I'm thinking aboutt deleting the app that keeps the screen on while using certain apps. Any thoughts?
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OMG, I can't believe how fast everything is!
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ok i was using atk, uninstalled it , but i did notice a battery drain. T mobile recomended advance task manager and its back to saving my battery . the cool thing about it, is that you have the option to kill only the 3rd party apps. all the other apps it warns you that it could cause the phone to not operated normal for a short period of time, so i only kill the 3rd party apps and phone work great.
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Since I have uninstalled ATK I have noticed considerable battery drain but I thought that I was doing something wrong. My cell reboots faster and I can surf the net faster BUT I get below 50% power at least 3x a day. It got to the point where I began rebooting my phoone after I used any apps just so nothing would keep running in the background (the only way I saved battery power). So now what? Must I sacrifice one for another?
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Has anyone ever thought of making a poll on who uses Task Managers and who doesn't? Like with success and without success of battery life and performance?
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OK, I shut off cell, rebooted & noted apps that started w\reboot. I went into those apps & there was an option to NOT start at beginning of the start of background svc's.
exactly where do you find the options to have apps not start on boot?? ALL my apps start on boot and my phone lags until i kill them....also, over time, some apps start by themselves if i do nothing at all....do i really want handcent running if i didn't start it???
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I've been going back and forth, back and forth with this whole Task Killing debate. Honestly, I notice no difference in battery life or phone performance with or without ATK. And I've read through this entire thread, and it seems like most people who are complaining about ATK are the ones who leave it running constantly...am I right?? Those who advocate not using task killers, do you mean not to keep it running all the time?

Because I use it, but I have it checked off to kill itself at the same time when I kill other apps. Leaving it on constantly obviously doesn't make any sense to me either, but using it once or twice a day seems perfectly fine to me. I have gmail, mail, messages, clock, voice dialer, settings, and usually the browser on my ignore list. Yay or nay?
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so I read everything and noticed there are several points people are making then seem to be arguing about even though person A says something person B is using a different point to disprove person A.

What I mean simply is when someone says "I am using (any task killer) I have it set to kill itself while killing background apps" someone will come and say something like "but have (task killer) running can slow the phone down and drain battery."

When we are talking about task killers there are really three states the phone can be in regarding them.
1. No task killer
2. Task killer that moniters the phone at all times
3. Task killer that only runs and kills apps when you chose.

I have seen plenty of people state what happens and what they believe in regards to the first two. However what about number 3? What is the down side to having an app such as ATK (when you only run it when killing background apps and have it kill itself in the process). Battery life and speed should not be affected due to the fact that there is no app being run. And when you decide to kill multi apps at once you meerly need to click twice and you can close it all in one shot(which due to the fact that you can only shut down one at a time with the built-in task manager you take less time and use less of the phones battery supplying it to the display[not much of a sliver of its life but some none the less]). What are your thoughts on this?
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Just thought I'd mention that, being a Mac user from the start, the thought of a task killer never would have crossed my mind had it not been for the VZW rep (A Wireless, vzawireless.com) who sold me my Droid Eris. During the setup process at the store, he downloaded and installed the ATK Free app and added it to my home screen, saying it was the best app I'd ever find.

Did I believe him? Of course! I have zero experience with the Android OS.

Recently uninstalled, gonna see if it helps with my constant sense UI crashes and general sluggishness.

Having said all that, I agree with the sentiment that it might be a good idea to keep a task killer app on hand so that if you DO have a bad app that keeps launching in the background and leaking memory or hogging CPU cycles, you can track it down quickly.
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Found this to be true on mine too. Then I did some reading, and got out of the "Windows OS" mindset....and realized this isn't a windows OS, and a program like Task Killer is really not needed at all.
One of the first apps i downloaded was the advanced task killer and i was actually pretty unhappy with the phone. It would lag a lot when texting and doesnt let me be on aim 24/7 like my sidekick did. However then i read this forum. I had no idea that the problems could have been caused by the task killer.

Im now two days without any task killer, and my phone is just fine as far as battery life and little to no lag when texting. No wonder why the phone didnt come with one! It doesnt need it!

As for the aim thing, that still kindof ticks me off that it would destroy the battery so bad. I guess ill stick with staying mobile and receiving IMs through texts.

This forum was really helpful thank you!
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I used ATK for a while, then stopped, but started using it again recently.

I noticed when I restart my phone, several apps start up that I certainly do not need running. The two that come to mind are Maps, and the Amazon MP3 store. I have NEVER started the Amazon MP3 Store app manually. Never. It's one of the native apps, so it cannot be uninstalled.

I am also one who kills the task killer when I kill off applications. I haven't noticed any serious degradation of battery life, but then I'm a relatively light user, and I have opportunity to have the phone on the charger often.
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ok so i had TK and ATK since i got my droid and was in the same catagory of people believing that android need a task killer/manager. so after reading this forum and talking to some buddies who run linux i decided to try it without and yep they were right there is no need for it. android was developed not to need a task manager. my phone has beed running the same performance as when i had ATK, if not better.

p.s. i get my emails more consistently now and os is running smoother too.

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my phone has beed running the same performance as when i had ATK, if not better.

p.s. i get my emails more consistently now and os is running smoother too.
Same here.
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It got to the point where I began rebooting my phoone after I used any apps just so nothing would keep running in the background (the only way I saved battery power).
seems to me rebooting is like the long ******ed form of just using a ATK that takes seconds. both accomplish the same thing in the end.. so if your going to do 1 or the other, I would just use ATK

I am a fan and user of ATK and don't buy, never did buy, that it causes any issues, damage, performance loss.
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FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android Geek For Me – Android CDMA Sprint Hero

In a nutshell-Uninstall Task killers, and battery life/memory usage/phone performance will increase.
this so does NOT solve anything..

"Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when it’s done doing what it needs to do"

this statement alone is BS to me given I see tons of apps running I never asked to run, never use, never started. So, if is is designed to "kill a task when it’s done" how do you explain all the apps you can see running that you never activated?

"Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when you haven’t returned to it in a long time."

same with this, as I have seen apps I never even use or used running.. and running later. and, what defines "a long time"? that is lamely vague.

"Killing a process when it isn’t ready only causes it to have to reload itself and start from scratch when it’s needed again."

yeah yeah yeah, nano seconds of power and time needed to "reload itself and start from scratch", he acts like it is starting up like an old 1980's car with a carb. if these apps can load in a second when the phone loads, they can load in a second when called upon IF even called upon.

anyway... that whole article seems to have holes to me and solves 0
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I've read all the articles and stuff and I'm still not sold. I decided this afternoon to uninstall ATK from my phone and there seems to be no difference really. In fact, I seem to have lost 20+% of my batter within a few hours. I'm not sayin it's from ATK but I still have my doubts. I'll give it a few days though and see how it goes though.
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I really have no clue about what whether or not having ATK installed does anything, but what I personally do is have all the automatic settings disabled, and kill ATK every time I open it.

Also, I hardly use ATK, I only ever use it when I notice lag on my homescreen or in an app, and after closing every app that does not have a widget (and that I am not currently running) and then having ATK kill itself, it has ALWAYS fixed the lag ... so there's reallly no reason in my opinion not to have it.
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A task killer should only be used if a task is misbehaving.

Anyway, I could rehash it all but I'll just link you to the topic I started on a different forum: Task Killers/Multi-Tasking/etc on Android (Continuation from iPhone Thread) - Android Forums
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I gotta call BS on this one. My phone has been pretty much sitting since 10 am. I've made a few texts and about 40 min. worth of calls and my battery is down to 15%!! It's running better, but the battery life has just been horrible the past 2 days!! There are no apps eating the batter either, I've checked!
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I personally tested not using Task Killer vs. using a Task Killer regularly on my Droid, and variations in between, and in my experience I found the truth to be somewhere in the middle on this issue.

After getting my Droid one of the first apps I got for it was Taskiller. As soon as the developer released a home screen widget to due a one-tap kill of all the running apps not in the ignore list, I used it constantly for months. In that time I NEVER experienced any lag on the phone at all. It was zippy as could be and along with regularly killing tasks, turning the display down to the lowest level, and trying to keep the screen off as much as possible, I averaged about a day and a half of battery life. I could easily get through the day without having to worry about depleting my charge.

After being in a discussion on this forum about task killers, I went ahead and uninstalled Taskiller. Within the very first hour, I began noticing lag on the phone I had never experience before, it was just a few seconds here and there, not anything that would make you want to curse the phone for being slow. It was very intermittent however, and generally it was not something I would experience.

All of a sudden I could barely make it through the day without worrying about my battery running out of charge. I found that if I had fully charged the Droid in the evening and unplugged it before going to bed, by evening the next day my charge was dangerously low. To be fair I did stream over Pandora while driving around that day, mostly with the screen off but it could have been a battery extensive activity.

So I re-installed Taskiller, but only to kill completely non-essential tasks, I would leave running the frustratingly large number of core processes that would re-boot themselves anyway. When done occasionally, maybe once a day, this seemed to keep any lag at bay even though I was still using a lot more memory than I would have been when I was constantly killing almost all of my tasks on a regular basis. Battery life seemed a little better, though honestly not as good as it was when I was constantly killing tasks.

I've found this middle-of-the-road, more conservative approach to killing tasks to be beneficial to my phone's performance, though I would also not hesitate to agree that you certainly don't NEED a Task Killer app. At the same time, it isn't true that processes running in the background aren't using any of the system's memory, that's a complete and total fallacy. The Linux memory management system is very impressive, but the presence of lag at rare times was enough for me to want to occasionally employ a Task Killer.

What really bothers me is that without rooting there isn't any way to keep certain apps like Corporate Calendar and Amazon mp3 Store from booting constantly. I would like to uninstall these apps as I'd never use them but do I have that option? No. If you could keep a few of these core processes from launching it just seems to follow that your performance would be just THAT much better.
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I am a fan and user of ATK and don't buy, never did buy, that it causes any issues, damage, performance loss.
And NOT having a task killer causes no issues, damage, or performance loss. I haven't had a task killer since January and I have not had ONE instance where I felt like I needed one. My phone is bug free and I've rooted and flashed tons of roms with zero complications. Just as long as I turn down my display brightness, my battery life is normal (and maybe even above normal) and my phone has zero lag. I CONSTANTLY see threads of folks complaining about bugs on this forum but my Droid runs as smooth as butter.
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I noticed something said in one of the above links in this thread, and that is that an app in memory does NOT necessarily use battery power; whereas an app that is actively using CPU cycles will. The android OS knows the difference; you may have 20 or 30 apps in memory, but if they're idle, they're not using battery power, and the OS will bump anything that's idle if it needs the resources. What's using battery power is the screen you're reading it on.

I have an app called Quick System Info, and it will display what's in memory and what's actively running. When the phone is idle, the only thing running is QSI; when I started one of my reminder apps, I went back and now two were using CPU, as I'd expect.

I was using ATK, but all it did was clear apps from memory, and it did prevent some from starting (which you can already do; ATK may be more convenient), but regarding what's using resources, go to processes that are typically using them: GPS, WiFi, screen brightness, etc., and turn them off or turn brightness down. They'll restart the minute you open a program that needs to use those resources. There's a free app called Quick Settings that lets you do most of your settings on one screen.

As mentioned, weather apps are notorious for using battery life, mainly because they're constantly updating their information - Same with news channels and things like that. Streaming radio is another biggie; if you're going to do that, either plan on draining your battery fast, or plug it in when doing it. I've noticed that running music that's already downloaded doesn't do it as fast.

Anyway, sorry for the long post, hope this helps...
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so I read everything and noticed there are several points people are making then seem to be arguing about even though person A says something person B is using a different point to disprove person A.

What I mean simply is when someone says "I am using (any task killer) I have it set to kill itself while killing background apps" someone will come and say something like "but have (task killer) running can slow the phone down and drain battery."

When we are talking about task killers there are really three states the phone can be in regarding them.
1. No task killer
2. Task killer that moniters the phone at all times
3. Task killer that only runs and kills apps when you chose.

I have seen plenty of people state what happens and what they believe in regards to the first two. However what about number 3? What is the down side to having an app such as ATK (when you only run it when killing background apps and have it kill itself in the process). Battery life and speed should not be affected due to the fact that there is no app being run. And when you decide to kill multi apps at once you meerly need to click twice and you can close it all in one shot(which due to the fact that you can only shut down one at a time with the built-in task manager you take less time and use less of the phones battery supplying it to the display[not much of a sliver of its life but some none the less]). What are your thoughts on this?
actually with the ATK widget you only need to click once now!
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So making a quick read through, I didn't seem to find the answer to this.

Why is just having ATK bad if you only start it to kill third-party or unnecessary apps (like calculator) to clear up memory? Because it by default kills itself as well, then I don't see how it's affecting anything if it's no longer running. . . I bring this up because I don't really care for a bunch of unnecessary apps just sitting there in the background if I have no use for them.
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So making a quick read through, I didn't seem to find the answer to this.

Why is just having ATK bad if you only start it to kill third-party or unnecessary apps (like calculator) to clear up memory? Because it by default kills itself as well, then I don't see how it's affecting anything if it's no longer running. . . I bring this up because I don't really care for a bunch of unnecessary apps just sitting there in the background if I have no use for them.
If you aren't using it, it's not taking CPU cycles. If the phone needs the RAM, it will take the calculator out of RAM.

Considering you have an HTC Incredible, you are going to have a hard time filling up the RAM. You are wasting more RAM and processing cycles having the task killer up.
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Awesome! Thanks for this post, helped alot!
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i make sure that the advanced app killer is also killed when I use this app... which is often.

I am very happy with the speed and battery life... even after I install this app. I did not notice a difference. maybe thats becaue I kill when I use it.

I do the same! I love the app. My Hero was running super slow and someone introduced me to this app. It's super easy to launch. I have it on my right side menu. Just about anytime I launch memory hogging/battery draining apps (like the weather channel etc) I immediately launch ATK and kill those hog apps. I also kill ATK. I leave my needed apps running, like gmail, twidroid, calendar, etc. I like that you can check and uncheck apps to kill and it remembers which one's you keep selected next time you launch the app.


I dunno - I REALLY like ATK!
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I'm bumping this thread. I didn't have to time to read every post. But it's all very interesting. As of now I uninstalled my task killer apps. Just to see what happens.

I can't help but think maybe some people are using the program incorrectly? Like setting it to auto-kill and stuff like that.

I only ever entered the program to kill apps that were not on my exclude list (you can exclude things you know so they will not be ended). I also ended the task killer app at the same time.

I never noticed ANY issued with my phone while using it. None what so ever. Then again I use it a little differently. Like I don't have my emails sync, I do that manually. Though again you could just exclude the gmail app and I'm sure it would be fine.

I might be leaning towards more of a user error type problem than the actual app.

Also, which task manager app is everyone talking about? Not the top one, the one that is just referred to as "task manager." There's like 100 on the market. Thanks.
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Using ATK dramatically improves my battery life. I attribute it to poorly written apps that use CPU cycles even if they are idle (I had a sound board that was doing exactly this).

I would guess that if every Android app developer wrote apps absolutely perfectly the way Google would want them to, ATK and others like it would not be needed, but I can guarantee that is not the case, having been in software for long enough to know how bad some developers are.
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It's only been a few minutes without an ATK and I can see the difference. The lag from opening apps, going back to home, and screen swipe lag is all gone! Stock Droid FTW
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Using a task killer every once and a while to kill specific apps, like maybe maps, or a game, or another program that doesn't close properly is great. But you don't need a program to do that. Android COMES with a task manager built into it. Go to Settings > Applications > Manage Applications. You can look at all of the running processes and force close them. People will lose battery life from opening a task killer all the time, and leaving it running in memory. As well as killing default applications in the android OS that will just reload anyway.

Having applications not using any CPU cycles sitting in memory, will take NO more battery power then having free memory. The RAM is _ALWAYS_ powered unless the phone is off.

So if you kill a few apps here and there, that may use cycles, or access features when not in use, sure, you might save a little battery power. Otherwise, you're just wasting CPU cycles and power just because you want to fiddle with killing apps.

Yes, I have tested with, and without task killers. and I get better performance without them. And, with killing a few app's here and there with the built in app manager in Android, I get slight, if not negligible battery/performance saves by killing app's like maps, or left over games and things of that nature.
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Advanced Task Manager and Task Killer are the 2 main ones most people use.
No not the task killers. The task MANAGER. It's been mentioned but there are too many with that exact name on the market to know which is which.
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Using ATK dramatically improves my battery life. I attribute it to poorly written apps that use CPU cycles even if they are idle (I had a sound board that was doing exactly this).

I would guess that if every Android app developer wrote apps absolutely perfectly the way Google would want them to, ATK and others like it would not be needed, but I can guarantee that is not the case, having been in software for long enough to know how bad some developers are.
They are not necessarily poorly written - they are written to access online content b/c they are ad supported or else use some other feature.

You really should start paying closer attention to the permissions that your apps are going to require when installing them - you'll find a whole pile of them will eat up battery life b/c, even when idle, they are continuously doing things like connecting to the network to update advertisements, and such things.

It's why I tend to buy apps that I really wanna keep - so I can get rid of the damned ads.

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It's only been a few minutes without an ATK and I can see the difference. The lag from opening apps, going back to home, and screen swipe lag is all gone! Stock Droid FTW
Good for you. Now, keep playing and see how things run....

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Using a task killer every once and a while to kill specific apps, like maybe maps, or a game, or another program that doesn't close properly is great. But you don't need a program to do that. Android COMES with a task manager built into it. Go to Settings > Applications > Manage Applications. You can look at all of the running processes and force close them. People will lose battery life from opening a task killer all the time, and leaving it running in memory. As well as killing default applications in the android OS that will just reload anyway.

Having applications not using any CPU cycles sitting in memory, will take NO more battery power then having free memory. The RAM is _ALWAYS_ powered unless the phone is off.

So if you kill a few apps here and there, that may use cycles, or access features when not in use, sure, you might save a little battery power. Otherwise, you're just wasting CPU cycles and power just because you want to fiddle with killing apps.

Yes, I have tested with, and without task killers. and I get better performance without them. And, with killing a few app's here and there with the built in app manager in Android, I get slight, if not negligible battery/performance saves by killing app's like maps, or left over games and things of that nature.
Thank you for aptly saying what I was trying to say. If only more people would read this....

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No not the task killers. The task MANAGER. It's been mentioned but there are too many with that exact name on the market to know which is which.
Advanced Task Manager is much more than a task killer.

If you can point to a specific instance where task manager itself is used, then we can be more helpful in helping you find what you are looking for. Admittedly, as you yourself have already seen, it is a rather broad category, and you may be looking for something specific, or it could be that the posters don't mention anything specifically because they know there are so many different ones out there that they just use the term generically, letting the individual reader pick which actual app they want to use....
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I reinstalled the Advanced Task Manager.

I'm sorry but there's just no reason to have the browser app paused/open/running in background, whatever - unless I'm actively using it.
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Ok this is my first post to Android Forums

I do not understand the contradictory statements from some of you folks.

Some of you are saying that you don't have to worry about apps running in the background they go dormant and what not. No worries about memory or battery use right linux has that handled. But then if that is the case why would one need to uninstall ATK to improve performance or increase battery life? It is an app like any other correct? So....
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Ok this is my first post to Android Forums

I do not understand the contradictory statements from some of you folks.

Some of you are saying that you don't have to worry about apps running in the background they go dormant and what not. No worries about memory or battery use right linux has that handled. But then if that is the case why would one need to uninstall ATK to improve performance or increase battery life? It is an app like any other correct? So....
IF you have ATK set to auto-kill, or you keep killing the apps yourself, and they are ones that Android needs running or that you use frequently, then you are going to be constantly fighting with Android. It will launch an app, ATK will kill it, Android launches it, ATK kills it, etc etc. THAT will take up CPU cycles and drain the battery more.

If you just use it to kill the occasional app or see what's running then it's not a problem.
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I reinstalled the Advanced Task Manager.

I'm sorry but there's just no reason to have the browser app paused/open/running in background, whatever - unless I'm actively using it.
There is. It's called multitasking. Some people here misunderstands the purpose of task killers. If you have a bugous app, thats not sleeping in the background when it should, killing it with a task killer is not the proper way of handling the problem. Find the misbehaving app, uninstall, and report it to the developer. Totally (and automatically) killing off everything consumes more battery, and makes the phone load apps much slower. My phone starts a bazillion apps when i boot it. And i don't care Let me quote and important part:

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The fact that you can see an application's process "running" does not mean the application is running or doing anything. It may simply be there because Android needed it at some point, and has decided that it would be best to keep it around in case it needs it again. Likewise, you may leave an application for a little bit and return to it from where you left off, and during that time Android may have needed to get rid of the process for other things.
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Scanning this thread, it's clear that some folks are putting waaaaaaaay too much thought into this issue. I'm not concerned with Linux commands, background programs, available memory or the like.

All I know is this: I've run my Droid for about 5 months without a task killer and it runs like a dream (and I've flashed dozens and dozens of ROMs during that time).
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