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Old November 20th, 2009, 01:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default ***The Ultimate "Is the hardware keyboard really any good?" Thread!***

First of all chaps a big hello to the forum. I have been following the Droid/Milestone since it was but a twinkle in it's Motomothers eye, and for the most part was absolutely more than impressed with it's specs. Lots and lots of pros... very few cons other than the camera and... the keyboard.

The keyboard, ahh yes, often such a subjective topic. I see it mentioned in threads here and there, a couple of opinions... but nothing hugely specific. So I thought I would make a thread DEDICATED to opinions and discussion about the thing... and try and figure out once and for all, short of playing with it (hasn't come to my country yet), if it is any use for one such as me.

*So, if you can, please answer the following:

*Do you like the hardware keyboard?
*Do you find tactile response and accuracy sufficient?
*Do you find it comfortable with your size hands?
*Do you use it more than the software QWERTY?
*Likes and dislikes about it?
*What other device would you compare it to positively and negatively?

Hopefully we can get enough people answering to build up an idea of common opinion on the thing. I'm looking forward to the Milestone hitting here with it's multi-touch. Hopefully it won't take too long before Sense UI is ported over and then it really will be the ultimate device. Cheers!

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I played with the Droid in the Verizon store, and the keyboard was awful in my opinion. The keys are to close together, and it feels kinda hard to press the buttons, which make it hard to text fast. I'm planning on getting this phone, and planning on never using the keyboard. Well maybe I could get use to it.... but probably not.
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the keyboard is fine in my opinion. sure it's not as good as a blackberry one probably, but i wouldn't know. the keys are fine for me, and i have big hands. i'm 6'5", so you can use your imagination . anyway, i use it more and more as i use my phone more. depending on the situation depends on whether i use it or not. for emails i usually use it. for txting and posting on forums, i usually use the on screen. but yeah it could be better sure but i think it does the job well and is nice to have even if you don't use it too often.
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I have owned my Droid for exactly eight days now, and am on it constantly (seriously, my husband says I need to be in a 12-step program)... here is my opinion of the physical keyboard.

I love that there is the option to use the physical keyboard, and I regularly switch between it and the on-screen version. I do think that they could have designed it better. It is a little hard to get my right thumb in to proper position with the directional pad there....but I use that directional pad often and do not see where else they would have put it. I don't find the 'smoothness' of the keyboard to be an issue, and I'm sure I would be able to type without looking, if I could get my hands in the right position. I do have little fingers, though....and now that I think of it, I use my nails to type....

Bottom line, I'd rather it be there in it's current state, then not at all, but I think it could have been done better.....and I wouldn't trade my phone for any other in the world.
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and now that I think of it, I use my nails to type....
I think that you're going to find that in time you'll start to crack the keyboard if you continue this... However stopping is only going to delay when you start to crack the keyboard. That piece is a little lack luster in the design department and its only going to start to crack as it dries out and gets stressed...

I know a thing or two about keyboards... I'm an electrical engineer and my wife is a mechanical engineer that actually does all the keypads for our products. So yea I hear a thing or two about keyboards and keypads whenever I get a device. Lets just say that she's used a few ideas here and there from Blackberry. I've owned a few BB's and they are just great devices. I honestly hope that BB comes up to par with the performance and features that Droid offers so that I can go back as text entry on their devices is bar none the best in the business. I'm quite a bit slower on the Droid than I was on my Storm or on the Tour but I live with that for the other enhancements that the Droid brings.
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Old November 20th, 2009, 02:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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i aboslutely love the keyboard. Im a guy and i have big fingers, and i am able to type very quickly on it without a problem at all.

i dont understand why some have a problem with it. i love it.

I have noticed when i try to use my finger only to hit the keys its a bit harder, but i always tilt my fingers and use part of my nails, so it ends out working great.
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Old November 20th, 2009, 02:27 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I truly don't give the keyboard a second thought. For me it's totally fine. I'm not a super speedy texter, maybe medium speed, and I do as good on this as I did on a LG enV3 keyboard. My thumbnails are short, but I do use the outside edge to type with. This technique did not work well at all on a blackberry curve. The keys are little, high and rounded, and that was a frustrating texting experience for me... but anyway Moto Droid... glad I've got the keyboard, happy with it, but actually very surprised at the ease and acuracy of both virtual keyboards!
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After reading a lot of people complain about the keyboard (although many more others thought it was just fine) I was a little worried. I went to the verizon store to try it out and I was pleaseantly surprised. There is plenty of feedback when pressing a key, the D-pad is pretty useful if you learn when to use it, my big hands have no problem with it. It's certainly not perfect, but what keyboard is? My only issue is typing the Y key with my right thumb as it can be a little bit of a stretch sometimes. I'm trying to train myself to type Y with my left thumb.

Ultimately though, you're gonna have to try it out yourself and see. Some people love it and some people hate it.
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Old November 20th, 2009, 07:42 AM   #9 (permalink)
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*Do you like the hardware keyboard?
Yes, I like it better than the virtual keyboard.
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*Do you find tactile response and accuracy sufficient?
It is sufficient for me, but it took me about a week to really get used to it.
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*Do you find it comfortable with your size hands?
Yes, I have an average hand size.
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*Do you use it more than the software QWERTY?
Absolutely. I don't like the virtual at all. The iPhone multi-touch virtual spoiled me.
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*Likes and dislikes about it?
It's flat, difficult to differentiate between keys, and isn't off-set.
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*What other device would you compare it to positively and negatively?
I've owned an HTC QWERTY (SMT5800) and I like typing on the Motorola better. The HTC was my first physical QWERTY, and it was nice, but definitely felt more cramped than the Motorola does.
Palm Pre vs Droid - I would vote Droid hands down. The Palm Pre keyboard cramped my hands because the keyboard was sunk so deep and so small.

This keyboard isn't the best, but it gets the job done. I've been using it since launch and my typing has improved tremendously on it. When I first got my iPhone back in February I had the same issues. I couldn't type well on it for at least a week, then I started to get better, and eventually I was typing super fast on it.
Until a Droid Virtual is released with multi-touch support it's virtual will not be anywhere near as good. I think a lot of people coming from iPhones would agree with me on that point.
Anyway, this is about the physical keyboard so I digress. It's really good for what it is, a thin and streamlined slider with a massive 3.7" display. The sacrifice this phone makes is a low-travel space constrained keyboard. It works and gets the job done. I for one am very happy.
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I think the Droid is about balance. It is probably the thinnest phone with a keyboard by far. I use the keyboard about 30% of the time and find it more than adequate. I believe some design issues were encountered because of the phone thickness. I think the phone achieves the best of all worlds, Great screen, great platform, great form factor and an adequate keyboard.

I don't write novels on my phone, if I did I would buy something else.
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Personally, I love the keyboard.

This is my first phone to have a physical keyboard (or any type of full keyboard, to be honest) and it feels like heaven to me. Coming from numpad typing to this is awesome. I really don't have a problem hitting the keys, and recently I've stopped looking at the keyboard to type.

Oddly enough, I'm seeing a trend that people with bigger hands (like myself) like the keyboard more, which is adverse to general thoughts on the keyboard. I decided to investigate this by letting a wide range of my friends use the phone.

My results showed that people with smaller hands lay their thumbs flat on the keyboard, so when they press down they often hit more than 1 key, while people with large hand hold their thumbs above the keyboard and "poke" down with the proximal end of their thumbs, hitting only 1 key.

I think this is due to people with larger hands becoming used to having to use precision thumb strikes for various tasks throughout the day, and therefore have an easier time with the Droid's keyboard.

Could be completely wrong, but that's just what I've found out.
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As with every phone I've owned, Treo, VX6800, BB Curve, and now droid, the keyboard was the hardest part to get used to, but that is status quo for a new phone and me... With that said, after two weeks of texting and emailing, I've become very comfortable with the keyboard and make very few mistakes... Like with any new item one tries, there is always a learning curve and muscle memory is one of the hardest things to overcome...
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after two weeks of texting and emailing, I've become very comfortable with the keyboard and make very few mistakes...
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I like the keyboard. I have no issue with the size. Tho the top row is a bit close to the screen. The buttons I wish were a bit thicker since the button press seems long enough. Also the space bar should have been a bit longer. Seeing as they had some extra space on either side of that row. And the fact that it is offset. Besides that I like having an actually keyboard.

I was on an LG Dare before, which only had a virtual keyboard. That virtual keyboard I believe is better than the droids. Maybe because it was a smaller phone it fit better in the hand.

And that's all I have to say about that...
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Old November 20th, 2009, 09:54 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I like the keyboard a lot, especially being able to hold ALT or SHIFT if you need to type more then one punctuation/number in a row. Now when I first got my DROID I felt like I was always gonna press the wrong key, or press 2 at a time (I'm 6'4 290, big guy) but the more I used it I started to realize you just need to stop double guessing yourself with every keystroke and you really won't make that many error's. Everyone says the keys are all flat but they aren't, if you look closely at the right angles you can see they all have a slight bevel to them. When typing long emails or messages I can fly through them and I barely ever have to look down. For the virtual keyboard, I don't really care for it in landscape mode as it takes up way to much screen space. In portrait it's good for banging out quick reply's, but I wish TouchPal was updated for 2.0 and the DROID's higher resolution, its the BEST virtual keyboard, way better then Better Keyboard and just as good if not better then HTC_IME (Hero/Eris/Sense keyboard).
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Old November 20th, 2009, 09:58 AM   #16 (permalink)
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At first I thought it was awful, but I can already type on it as fast as I could on my BB.
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the keyboard is decent imo. sometimes it's a little difficult to determine where one key ends and another begins, but i'm getting better at it. the backlight is nice. for anything longer than a sentence, i use the hardware keyboard instead of the onscreen one.

as someone mentioned, they sacrificed having actual buttons in favor of the smooth piece of plastic with bumps in order to achieve the slim form factor. for me, it was a good tradeoff. i carry my phone in my pocket so it has to be slim.
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Old November 20th, 2009, 11:51 AM   #18 (permalink)
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The only time I've used the physical keyboard is when I was forced to when I was setting up the phone. Otherwise, It has remained closed.
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Old November 20th, 2009, 11:55 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Thanks guys some awesome feedback here... I must admit i'm not as dubious now as I was about it before. I have large-ish hands so seems I might just be ok.

It's interesting though... I wonder if they will bring out a new revision of this next year with an improved camera and keyboard.
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I think part of the issue is. Just about any mobile keyboard whether it be onscreen or physical is going to have a learning curve. I think people pick up the phone and complain because they cant jump on it immediately and type 20 WPM. Well If you've never used a BB go pick one up and see how well you do. I've had an Iphone, storm, ATT tilt, and now the droid all with keyboards of some sort. they all took time to adjust to. but once adjusted i was able to type just fine on any of them. it just takes practice. Granted some are better than others. but i find none of them horrible after some practice. It's along the same lines of all these people who buy the phone and expect it to be perfect. Its a new device on a fairly new OS and there are going to be issues. the iphone was a nightmare in the begining.
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I didn't like it at first, and found the placement of some of they keys a bit odd, but as I use it more and more, I'm becoming faster and good with it
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I didn't like it at all at first, coming from an iPhone. But then I got used to it after living with the phone for a couple weeks. It's good to have a choice of both.

If it only had the hardware keyboard, I would've bitched that I needed the soft keyboard.

If it only had the screen keyboard, I would be bitching that I needed a slide out.. so all good
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I like the keyboard option, although it takes a little getting used to if you had a Blackberry before. I typically only use it when I'm typing and walking at the same time. Any other time I use the on screen keyboard.
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for the past 2 weeks at work, maybe 3 or 4 days during work i would play with the demo droid we have to show customers. I dislike screen touch keyboards and will take a regular keyboard over it anyday. I havnt had a chance to dig through it, but id really like to disable that predictive text bullshit. stop trying to put words together for me..

when i go to text ill slide out the keyboard but i felt like it was a little shallow and lacked markers on the keyboard. I need to keep my eyes on the keys but i bet after a couple of weeks i could do it blind.
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Default No Problem with the slide-out keyboard.

I upgraded from a nearly 5 year-old Treo 700W to the Motorola Droid. I have no problems with the slide-out keyboard. My fingers are large, but even the top row is not a problem. I am a 2-4 fingered keyer, not a touch keyer.

I like the slide-out keyboard over the face-front thumb keyboard on the Treo.
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Was awful at first, now acceptable. That about sums it up.
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I'm not as happy with the keyboard as most seem to be. I'm an old Treo 700w user and on that keypad, I could type with my thumbs almost as fast as I can type on a computer. On the Droid, I find my thumbs frequently pushing 2 keys and I get lots of errors requiring me to go back and correct them. I believe it would be better with a little raised dimple in the middle of each key for a little tactile feedback. I love the raised, rounded keys on the treo. Man, if they had a treo-like keyboard on this machine, I would be in heaven!
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I like having the slide out keyboard, but I find it to hard to hit the keys correctly since they are small. I can use the on screen keyboard just as well, so I have stopped using the slide out.
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The keyboard is a big failure. End of thread.
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For me the keyboard is just fine. As a matter of fact, sometimes when I am using the screen keyboard I hit the wrong letters and switch to the physical board for more accuracy. I am still trying to learn where all the symbols are and how to switch from caps to lower case...but over all I like the physical keyboard.
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Sorry but that post is a big failure. Completely worthless.
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Default wish list: Droid with HTC Touch Pro2 keyboard

I"m on the fence. Have used one in a couple of stores for a LOOOONG time, and still not convinced I want to live with a sub-par keyboard (my opinion). Yes, it is thin, but it's also not very good. I'm hoping for something better to come out soon before jumping into the fray.
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At first when I first got the phone I definitely agreed with all the reviews about it. Then I actually started to use it, and well I LOVE it now. For longer messages I definitely prefer to type with the hard-keyboard because I feel like I can type more acurately which in turns makes me type faster. The soft keyboard for some reasom just can't keep up with my typing. It end's up freaking out on me when I'm trying to type. Also text selection sucks on the screen it takes me forever to accurately move the cursor to a place that I want to edit. The d-pad has made it a lot easier to position it accurately. Love it!!
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After two weeks of use I'm also getting to the point where I can type without looking. I love having the three options for keyboard.
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Very interesting reading thanks guys... any more opinions?
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I like the keyboard in general, but dislike two things about it.
1) when I open it, I invariably hit either the volume or camera buttons
2) the pace key is too inset making it almost unusable

I found that using my nails for thumb typing works best.
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I'm coming from a phone with no keyboard. Not previously much of a text/SMS person - now I am.
I actually like both keyboards, for longer messages/emails, I use the hard keyboard, and for other stuff, the soft. Both work very well for me.
Just because one is used to a certain style/feel of a keyboard, shouldn't make the Droid keyboard bad or good - just that you need to get used to it.
The same goes for the whole phone
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Sorry if I'm chiming in late, but as a new smartphone user with no previous experience using a QWERTY keyboard on a phone, I would have to answer the OP as follows:

*Do you like the hardware keyboard?
Yes. I typically use the software keyboard for texts and emails simply because it is quicker for me and provides the feedback options that learn as I type. However, if I am filling out a form online or if I need to edit something I did on the software keypad (yes, I proofread my emails), I find the hardware keypad indispensable. The D-pad provides arrow keys to move around within my text block to make edits which is a lifesaver. And using the hardware keyboard allows the screen to be used as a full screen rather than splitting it up for screen and keyboard.

*Do you find tactile response and accuracy sufficient?
I like the tactile feedback, although the accuracy leaves something to be desired. Personally, I blame that on my novice status as much or more so than the hardware.

*Do you find it comfortable with your size hands?
I do tend to make more mistakes due to the size discrepancy between my fingers and the keys.

*Do you use it more than the software QWERTY?
No, but as mentioned above, each has it's advantages. perhaps I'm naive, but it seems like a slider is a win-win. If you don't want the keyboard, you never have to slide it open - out of sight, out of mind. If you want it, you have it. Both sides should be happy, and as I have found, there are times when it is nice to have one.

*Likes and dislikes about it?
LIKES: d-pad, some market apps appear to be designed with the keypad in mind
DISLIKES: small, cramped keys; no separate row for numbers; different from layout of software keyboard (I have to learn where symbols and punctuation are for both input methods)

*What other device would you compare it to positively and negatively?
Compared to my previous phone, a Moto RAZR with a T9 keypad, anything is better!
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I find myself pretty accurate with the soft keyboard, both vertical and horizontal - it generally comes along with learning to place your finger just right to hit a needed link in the browser. For searches/SMS and such I use virtual. But when needing to write something extensive, I open up the keyboard. I find it comfortable and easy to use. What I kinda miss is the word suggestion feature that soft keyboard has.

Also, and this is really looks to be a deficiency in the browser software, using it to post on forums can be a major pain. On most forums, the post editor window does not size properly, typing is VERY sluggish and some forums do not even show a cursor - so if you make a typo, correcting it is a nightmare. The workaround, however, is easy: I type the post in the notepad app, and then select all/copy/paste.
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I'm coming from a phone with no keyboard. Not previously much of a text/SMS person - now I am.
I actually like both keyboards, for longer messages/emails, I use the hard keyboard, and for other stuff, the soft. Both work very well for me.
And I'm coming from a Treo with an awesome keyboard. I totally agree. Short stuff I poke out with one finger in the soft keyboard, longer stuff I use the hardware keyboard. I have learned to open the keyboard before clicking on the box or I end up sending the email too early :-)

The hardware keyboard is by no means idea. I would have preferred deeper separated keys. Of course, I carried a treo for years so thick and heavy is no issue for me. I would much rather have a 1 week battery and fewer mistakes over a sleek sexy phone, but the features of the Droid won me over.

Maybe Seido will make a ginormous battery? Maybe someone will get a small real BT keyboard to work?
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I haven't seen this issue discussed anywhere else.

I think the primary non-obvious thing that causes difficulty is that the little pressure bubble under each key is not centered under the printed letter. For instance, if you try to press directly on the printed H, there's a high likelihood of inadvertently pressing G, V or B, especially when you're really flying through the letters. If you want the H, you have to press between the H and =, not intuitive at all. To make matters worse, the pressure bubbles aren't even directly centered under each key. The entire third row (Z, X, C) sweet spots tend to be a bit lower than center on my Droid.

This is turning out to be a rant but anyway, some of the design decisions on the keyboard don't make any sense to me. If space is at such a premium why have duplicate alt keys let alone two blank spaces? Put a bubble under there, let us use them as customizable shortcuts. And it seems to me that they could have easily accommodated an additional row of dedicated numbers, just let the screen open up a few more millimeters, it's not as if I'm applying any torque to the screen.

I could go on and on about the keyboard. Do I use it? Yes, and I don't find that it's not too difficult either, it's just that I think it could be a whole lot better, that's what I find infuriating.

By the way, I love this thing.
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*Do you like the hardware keyboard?

love it. big on having a hardware keyboard, which helped sell me on the droid originally. finding the more and more i use this, the more used to it i get, like with previous phones

*Do you find tactile response and accuracy sufficient?

yes and no. there needs to be a little more spacing between they keys or something, accuracy can be tough if i'm not looking at the keyboard. with my voyager i was able to type novels without looking down and trust my fingers. i've had this phone almost a month (i was a 6am first day guy) and i still dont' feel comfortable typing blind...yet. tactile response is ok everywhere but the space bar, which feels like one centered button under a 3-button width key.

*Do you find it comfortable with your size hands?

absolutely. and i don't mind the offset to the left that a lot of people mind. most phones with keyboards i've used have it (again, voyager being my most recent). i have pretty big hands, but have no problem typing accurately if i'm looking at the keyboard.

*Do you use it more than the software QWERTY?

without a doubt. i only use the software keyboard for small stuff, like searching market, and even then i open the keyboard sometimes. the lack of multitouch on the software one makes it really tough - i'm pretty fast with both, but on the software one i have to consciously slow myself down *significantly* so i don't miss letters (and it's very very hard to edit using the software keyboard, cursor placement is impossible)

*Likes and dislikes about it?

absolutely LOVE the keyboard shortcuts that come stock, and the ones you can set up. for example i know i'll always use the physical keyboard for messaging, so i have Search+M (Search being the magnifying glass key) open messaging; Search+N opens notepad, etc. i love that i can hold shift and alt like a regular keyboard, for selecting text, typing in caps, etc.

dislike how hard it is to tell keys apart when you're not looking. also dislike not having a dedicated number row but i understand why they did it.

*What other device would you compare it to positively and negatively?

my only other experience at this level is with my voyager, and i'd have to give the win to the voyager here for on ability to type fast, without looking. but, the droid wins in functionality. i can do a lot more things (type more special chars, keyboard shortcuts) with this keyboard. and it's not *that* bad compared to the voyager. just not quite as good. that had serious key separation and i got used to it in a matter of days, not a month or two like this phone (pic: http://www.pma-show.com/news_images/0306_lg_voyager.jpg )

one thing i've found, i've unnecessarily been texting way more than normal to practice typing - and it's helping. a lot. last time i played TxtSpeed (think mavis beacon) i was able to get 36WPM with minimal errors. not bad for a tiny, tiny keyboard
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Initially I wasn't all together sure if I would use it, but I am now a big fan of the hardware keyboard. I prefer it when typing long messages. For short quick replies I use the on screen keyboard.

It only took me a few days to get used to the keyboard. Once I got used to the keyboard not being centered between my hands (I had to use my left hand more) typing was a breeze. My friends that have the Droid feel the same way.
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I forced myself to get used to it, and I haven't had a problem since. I usually prefer it over the virtual. Though I can't say I've used the D pad yet. My only major qualm is that the auto-correction feature is really scrapped down on the hardware qwerty (minor fixes like teh-the). If the full auto-correction was implemented I would be very happy.
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I use the physical keyboard all the time when using any of the emulators. The virtual d-pad sucks a duck. I also use the keyboard 100% of the time when I'm doing anything text intensive (i.e. emails, typing in URLs, etc.) It's really kind of like driving a stick shift. When you need to go to it, muscle memory kicks in and you slide it, don't even think about it. If I'm using the virtual keys and it looks like it'll be a long text, bam, slide. No thought. But if you don't drive stick, I don't expect you to get the analogy.
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I only use the virtual keyboard when typing with one hand in portrait mode. When in landscape it easier to view and hold using the keyboard.

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It's really kind of like driving a stick shift. When you need to go to it, muscle memory kicks in and you slide it, don't even think about it. If I'm using the virtual keys and it looks like it'll be a long text, bam, slide. No thought. But if you don't drive stick, I don't expect you to get the analogy.
I love this analogy and completely agree. Well said!
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*Do you like the hardware keyboard? YES
*Do you find tactile response and accuracy sufficient? YES
*Do you find it comfortable with your size hands? YES
*Do you use it more than the software QWERTY? YES, by far
*Likes and dislikes about it?
Like it that it exists at all, when other phones just leave it out.
Like that it has question mark, comma, slash, and at keys.
Dislike the flatness
Dislike the blank keys
Dislike that it doesn't have an exclamation point (never would have expected this until you gave me the ones I mention above)
Dislike the small size of the backspace key (I think it should be a double)
Dislike that it's four rows (I would do a backflip it it had a number row)

*What other device would you compare it to positively and negatively?
I like it less than the keyboards on my Samsung Saga and Motorola Q. They were better, but I still like the Droid's keyboard.

Initially I used the software keyboard about 60% of the time, but I have moved to using hardware for even search queries and short texts. The only time I use the onscreen keyboard is to put in the first letter or two to get to the right part of my contacts list.
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*Do you like the hardware keyboard? YES
*Do you find tactile response and accuracy sufficient? YES
*Do you find it comfortable with your size hands? YES
*Do you use it more than the software QWERTY? YES, by far
*Likes and dislikes about it?
Like it that it exists at all, when other phones just leave it out.
Like that it has question mark, comma, slash, and at keys.
Dislike the flatness
Dislike the blank keys
Dislike that it doesn't have an exclamation point (never would have expected this until you gave me the ones I mention above)
Dislike the small size of the backspace key (I think it should be a double)
Dislike that it's four rows (I would do a backflip it it had a number row)

*What other device would you compare it to positively and negatively?
I like it less than the keyboards on my Samsung Saga and Motorola Q. They were better, but I still like the Droid's keyboard.

Initially I used the software keyboard about 60% of the time, but I have moved to using hardware for even search queries and short texts. The only time I use the onscreen keyboard is to put in the first letter or two to get to the right part of my contacts list.
It does have an exclamation key if you don't mind pressing alt. (alt+S)

If you double tap the alt key, it turns all the alt functions on until you tap it again. This is very convenient when you are typing in a phone number. (The dash is alt+v)
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*Do you like the hardware keyboard?
NOT REALLY, MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT IS YOU CANT FEEL WHERE ONE KEY ENDS AND THE OTHER BEGINS. ITS LIKE ONE BIG FLAT SURFACE. I DON'T LIKE IT MUCH, BUT YOU DO GET USED TO IT.
*Do you find tactile response and accuracy sufficient?
YES, AGAIN, SOMETHING YOU GET USED TO.
*Do you find it comfortable with your size hands?
I HAVE SMALL HANDS, AND I'M STILL NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
*Do you use it more than the software QWERTY?
NO, I ONLY USE THE TOUCH SCREEN, I LOVE THE WAY IT KNOWS WHAT I'M TYPING, I CAN MISTYPE CAM, AND KNOW THAT I WANT TO TYPE CAN. LOVE IT!!
*Likes and dislikes about it?
I DID END UP GOING THROUGH 5 DROIDS BEFORE I FINALLY SETTLED WITH ONE THAT WAS NOT DEFECTIVE... ( I BOUGHT TWO, ONE WAS PERFECT, WHILE THE OTHER HAD ISSUES WITH THE KEYBOARD STICKING WHILE SLIDING OUT ON ONE SIDE, THIS WAS THE CASE WITH FIVE OTHER ONES, UNTIL ONE FINALLY CAME OUT WITHOUT ISSUES) SO WHEN YOU GET YOURS, I WOULD HOLD IT IN ONE HAND AND USE YOUR THUMB TO SLIDE IT UP, AND THEN USE THE OTHER AGAIN. IF THEY DONT STICK AT ALL, THEN YOU'VE GOT A GOOD ONE.
*What other device would you compare it to positively and negatively?
I AM ALWAYS GETTING NEW PHONES, BUT I THINK I HAVE FOUND ONE THAT I WILL KEEP FOR A WHILE. BY THE WAY, I HAVE SIRIUS AND I LOVE THE PANDORA APP.

HIT ME UP IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.
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