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Old June 5th, 2010, 05:25 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Volume locker is very good. However, on the Incredible the notifications are kind of a pain to get to, making confirming changes somewhat of a pain. One other app I saw actually had a popup window that you could use to confirm changes. I kinda liked that (except it didn't work right). If that kind of confirmation dialog was added to Volume Locker, it would be my perfect solution.

Thanks for the good work anyway
A popup option is now live.

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nice, thanks! Post on here when the update is done? Thanks again!

Working on this...if I find some spare time tonight (my wife expects me to do some house work) then I'll put out something shortly for this.
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should allow "disable volume lock while:" during call; missed a couple profile switch from setting profile during my long calls
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should allow "disable volume lock while:" during call; missed a couple profile switch from setting profile during my long calls
I'll add it to the "todo" list. Thanks!
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not really a bug on volume locker, but here is a quite embarrassing situation happened to me:

i had the volume locker set to "disable volume lock while screen's locked" and listened to music on my headphone. when i got to work, i paused the music and much later unplugged the headphone and went to a meeting; somehow the music player bug thought i plugged the headphone in and the music resumed playing. my profile set the media volume to 0 so i couldnt hear it. during middle of the meeting, i pulled my phone out to check the time, my finger got caught on the "volume up" button... needless to say, i was blasting music during the meeting and had to scramble to lower the volume...

this is really google's end of the problem, but just an fyi that it could happen to you; now im changing back to my old way to activating profile: around the time of profile change, manually disable volume locker, then re-enable it when profile is changed, and disable the "disable volume lock while screen's locked"

on a non-relevant question: it is possible to just enable the VLService without launching the app, or launch the app then immediately minimize to tray? in this case i could just let setting profile do all the dirty work
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not really a bug on volume locker, but here is a quite embarrassing situation happened to me:

i had the volume locker set to "disable volume lock while screen's locked" and listened to music on my headphone. when i got to work, i paused the music and much later unplugged the headphone and went to a meeting; somehow the music player bug thought i plugged the headphone in and the music resumed playing. my profile set the media volume to 0 so i couldnt hear it. during middle of the meeting, i pulled my phone out to check the time, my finger got caught on the "volume up" button... needless to say, i was blasting music during the meeting and had to scramble to lower the volume...

this is really google's end of the problem, but just an fyi that it could happen to you; now im changing back to my old way to activating profile: around the time of profile change, manually disable volume locker, then re-enable it when profile is changed, and disable the "disable volume lock while screen's locked"
Ahhhh, took me a few minutes but I think I understand the series of events. Basically, you had an app like Pandora playing music, with Setting Profiles set to mute the audio when you disconnect your headphones. The music is still playing, so when you went to look at your locked screen's time you accidentally hit the rocker (because the app allows usage of the keys while the locked screen is up). Thus restoring the volume, and VLService to be ignoring it because you had the "disable while screen's locked" item checked.

Hmm, trying to think of a way to get around that. I have a request to disable VL while silent mode is active, perhaps something similar for this might work...


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How would Setting Profiles go about doing this typically? I haven't used it. I can add an intent receiver to start/stop it if need be (or similar).
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How would Setting Profiles go about doing this typically? I haven't used it. I can add an intent receiver to start/stop it if need be (or similar).
what i meant was to have the option to let the app launch (other than at the phone startup), but only showing on notification area without the main screen, because normally i would just set the app up once and leave the setting alone

basically what i had done is set a schedule on Setting Profiles to kill Volume Locker a minute before the change of profile, then start it again along with the scheduled profile. it isnt that big of deal, just when the profile changes, the app would launch and get in the way of whatever i was doing and need to close it
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what i meant was to have the option to let the app launch (other than at the phone startup), but only showing on notification area without the main screen, because normally i would just set the app up once and leave the setting alone

basically what i had done is set a schedule on Setting Profiles to kill Volume Locker a minute before the change of profile, then start it again along with the scheduled profile. it isnt that big of deal, just when the profile changes, the app would launch and get in the way of whatever i was doing and need to close it
Yeah, so I just checked out Setting Profiles Lite. They don't have a way to run an Intent as a rule, and it will only auto run apps that are set as launchable (visible in your main menu). If it allowed for intents, then this would be a super quick fix
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Yeah, so I just checked out Setting Profiles Lite. They don't have a way to run an Intent as a rule, and it will only auto run apps that are set as launchable (visible in your main menu). If it allowed for intents, then this would be a super quick fix
apparently intents rule is not on a top priority of the developer (although i agree profile ranking is really important)

im trying to find an app that automatically catches a specific app launch and sends it to background, as i have a couple of apps launching using profile settings need to be kicked to the background so they dont interfere with what im doing at the time

might be too much to ask... is it possible to include a schedule timertask to enable/disable volume locker at a specific time, and on headset connection? then the app could bypass any scheduler with a bit of hassle
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At night (usually) when I am sleeping, I only want the phone to make a sound if I get a text message from from the hospital

How can I set all sounds off except if I get a text message from one specific contact?
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SMS Popup allows for contact specific notifications, including sound, popup, LED, and more.

I am not certain but Handcent may also.
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At night (usually) when I am sleeping, I only want the phone to make a sound if I get a text message from from the hospital

How can I set all sounds off except if I get a text message from one specific contact?
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Bedside allows exactly this and works with Volume Locker (there is a section in the settings). You set up white lists for calls and sms and if Bedside is running it passes the notification through although all other sounds may be muted.
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Handcent is great but it doesn't (yet?) have a setting for sound notification even during silent or vibrate.

Guess I'll buy SMS popup, try it for one night and then cancel it, buy and try bedside the next night and either keep it or cancel and go back to SMS popup.

Let me know if you guys have a better way of testing paid apps for longer than 24 hours.
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Handcent is great but it doesn't (yet?) have a setting for sound notification even during silent or vibrate.

Guess I'll buy SMS popup, try it for one night and then cancel it, buy and try bedside the next night and either keep it or cancel and go back to SMS popup.

Let me know if you guys have a better way of testing paid apps for longer than 24 hours.
SMS Popup is free: Downloads - android-smspopup - Project Hosting on Google Code ?

It's open source...
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SMS Popup is free: Downloads - android-smspopup - Project Hosting on Google Code ?

It's open source...
Got it, tried it - great app but when I turn sound off in silent mode and test my settings for the contact - no sound.

Also tried using profiles and it too adjusts all notification sounds, not just SMS or specific contact.

Next I will try bedside,

Have learned a lot about the phone doing this little exercise.

It seems that notifications trigger the speaker from SMS and email (using K9) and probably other things. Rings activate the speaker by incoming phone calls. That's why I get 2 notifications for the same text message if I leave notifications on in both Handcent and the stock SMS.

If bedside will return the speaker to to the off mode after a ring or notification of any kind from a specific contact, I'll sleep better. really
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I am using Volume Locker and recently having a conflict with the Optical joystick button on the Droid Incredible. Every time I take a picture by hitting the camera button (which is also the optical joystick button) a popup message comes up. Kinda annoying, but acceptable to a degree. However, the worse case is when I try to record a video, the message pop up and cancel the recording. I got a series of less than a second video clips... Is it a bug? Otherwise, the app is great. Thanks
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I am using Volume Locker and recently having a conflict with the Optical joystick button on the Droid Incredible. Every time I take a picture by hitting the camera button (which is also the optical joystick button) a popup message comes up. Kinda annoying, but acceptable to a degree. However, the worse case is when I try to record a video, the message pop up and cancel the recording. I got a series of less than a second video clips... Is it a bug? Otherwise, the app is great. Thanks
Hmm, technically it's not a bug. I have a Nexus One and haven't had that issue, however it sounds like your sound level is changing to play the 'snap' noise when you are taking a picture or recording a video. The "stealing focus" is part of the reason I didn't want to implement popups -- it's really frowned upon behavior on Android.

I'll try to address this in the next release (very soon). Do you mind doing a quick beta test for me when I get it implemented?
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I'll try to address this in the next release (very soon). Do you mind doing a quick beta test for me when I get it implemented?
I would love to test out the beta for you. I will pm you my email address. Thanks for looking into this.
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I would love to test out the beta for you. I will pm you my email address. Thanks for looking into this.
Thanks, I'll drop you an email when I've got something for it. You're using just the default Android Camera/Video app right? Nothing custom from the market?

If that's the case then it should be pretty straight forward.
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When using these apps, is there a way to separate email and sms notificaitons? In the majority of profile apps that i've tried, "notifications" are bulked together so I cant personalize the volume or tone, individually..
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Thanks, I'll drop you an email when I've got something for it. You're using just the default Android Camera/Video app right? Nothing custom from the market?

If that's the case then it should be pretty straight forward.
Yes, I only use the default camera/video app. Thanks
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When using these apps, is there a way to separate email and sms notificaitons? In the majority of profile apps that i've tried, "notifications" are bulked together so I cant personalize the volume or tone, individually..
This was my key problem and Bedside is how I got it to work for my purposes. The dev was great working with me via email to get things set up.

Basically, I want to be awakened when I receive SMS from one source, and want to sleep through phone calls and emails. Unfortunately, my unique SMS sender is from a computer with an email address, not from a phone number. Bedside dev said he'd look into being able to whitelist based on email address or on phone number instead of just phone number as it is now.

So, in Bedside, when it's enabled, it turns off sounds for all phone calls and emails and sends sound notification if there is an SMS message from anyone.

The key is to first silence all sounds on startup. Then configure calls as you want - I unchecked the Allow Calls option. Then, check to Allow SMS and either leave the whitelist unchecked to get ALL the SMS notifications or you can add specific contacts to the whitelist if the contacts use phone numbers to send SMS

I tried SMS popup, Profiles, both good apps. Bedside was the only one that lets me sleep at night unless I get an SMS message. At this point, it's OK if I just get my default sound for SMS.
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There is also a great app called RingGaurd. Confirmation that you would like to change the current volume setting.
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When using these apps, is there a way to separate email and sms notificaitons? In the majority of profile apps that i've tried, "notifications" are bulked together so I cant personalize the volume or tone, individually..
Using something like SMS Popup, Missed Call, etc allow for some customization. The volume however is not independent. The way the Android sound system works is the following:

System volume is the master volume control for all sounds. All of the other volume levels go through this other than voice call volume, so if this is set to "0" then all other sound volume levels will be 0. If this is set to 10, then all of the other volume levels max level can be 10, etc.

Then there's:
- Ringer
- Music/Media
- Notification
- Voice Call
- Alarm
- DTMF (touch tone sound, adding this soon)


All notification sounds go through the notification stream, or the developer is violating the conventions of Android. A lot of developers who want the volume level to be different then the system's currently set value, will temporarily raise the volume and then set it back to the original.

The downside of that is Volume Locker will pick it up and tell you the volume changed. Examples of this are Google Navigation, the camera shutter noise, Bedside, etc.

So, technicality you can have differing volumes for differing notifications, but they have to mess with the settings when playing the notification -- causing Volume Locker to potentially freak out and going against the conventions of Android. It's just the way it is...
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There is also a great app called RingGaurd. Confirmation that you would like to change the current volume setting.

Volume Locker is similar, but is a lot more customizable and allows locking other settings than just the Ringer.
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This was my key problem and Bedside is how I got it to work for my purposes. The dev was great working with me via email to get things set up.

So, in Bedside, when it's enabled, it turns off sounds for all phone calls and emails and sends sound notification if there is an SMS message from anyone.

I tried SMS popup, Profiles, both good apps.
Will look into it. Yeah, these other apps are great for their purpose but I need for sms and email to be separated. Them being bulked stinks!!

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Using something like SMS Popup, Missed Call, etc allow for some customization. The volume however is not independent.
So in laymen's terms, "notifications" is email and sms and there's no way to separate them? Bottom line: tough luck for me!
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So in laymen's terms, "notifications" is email and sms and there's no way to separate them? Bottom line: tough luck for me!
You're correct they're both deemed "notifications" as far as sound goes -- so they share the same volume level. But because of how Android works there are apps out there that when an SMS comes in, will raise the volume quickly and then set it back down. Email however is independent, and there's no way of intercepting it from the Gmail app at the moment. So you're out of luck, but can perhaps work around it (as a hack).

Bedside allows for different volumes by changing the volume when a call or text comes in (since Android allows us to figure out that those events are happening) and then setting it back down to what it was before the notification came in. Because it's changing the volume levels, it'll fire off Volume Locker to pop up a notification. So there's a setting which disables Volume Locker while Bedside is running, if you choose to use that app.

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I would love to test out the beta for you. I will pm you my email address. Thanks for looking into this.
Just posted an update to the market -- this should be fixed. Volume Locker is disabled while the camera is in use (as an option).
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Update is live -- should now let you forcefully override the in-call volume settings.
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Ahh, forgot to post what's on my todo list:
  1. On/Off Widget, Silent/Vibrate Widget
  2. Disable volume locker when Silent Mode is toggled (from both the locked screen and the power menu)

Also with this release, other than the 2 new features above -- is an improved response time on the popup dialog. For whatever reason I left some code commented out, which should've made it into the last release. Anyway, let me know if you guys spot anything buggy or have any other suggestions.
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Very impressed with 'volume locker' as it's doing everything I wanted except for my 'toggle silent widget' being overriden now.

I see you are saying about adding some widget for ring/vibrate/silent. Am I missing something already there or is it still work in progress?

Should probably add that I'm a Desire user
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Very impressed with 'volume locker' as it's doing everything I wanted except for my 'toggle silent widget' being overriden now.

I see you are saying about adding some widget for ring/vibrate/silent. Am I missing something already there or is it still work in progress?

Should probably add that I'm a Desire user
Thanks Nathan!

I'm working on adding in a widget. I've been hung up with my bathroom renovation (it's amazing how many small things you need to do when installing tile) so haven't had as much time to dedicate to writing code, but hopefully this weekend I'll make some head way.
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Hi Scythe,

I'm a new android user and I love this volume lock app. But sometimes I would find the volume being changed when i know i did not turn off the app. I added it to the ignore list to advanced task killer already. I'm using samsung galaxy 3 android 2.1
Do you have feedbacks about this?

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I'm a new android user and I love this volume lock app. But sometimes I would find the volume being changed when i know i did not turn off the app. I added it to the ignore list to advanced task killer already. I'm using samsung galaxy 3 android 2.1
Do you have feedbacks about this?

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Hi electronica,

Thanks for the compliments -- I've received 4 reports of the app stopping, and so far the common theme is everyone who's had issues is running Advanced Task Killer. I believe there's a bug in ATK in which it's either killing off Volume Locker's service (VLService), or it's killing off a system service behind the scenes that Volume Locker depends on.

It's hard to really say. If the app crashes for you without notice, use an app like "Log Collector" and send me a dump of your log. My email is: hourdb [aht] gmail [doht] com -- then I can figure out what exactly went wrong
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The latest version should give you full support for profiles apps: Setting Profiles (built in), Locale and Tasker (download "Locale Audio Update Notifier"), and a few others. I had a bug which a user helped me debug which was having the popup occur after the event changed the volume. Basically VL was too fast for the profile app.

Anyway, let me know if you find any issues. I'll work on some widgets as a downloadable app to compliment.
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I've just put a free app on the market just for this situation. It's called "Volume Locker" and it's a very lightweight app. It will lock any stream you want, and allows you to quickly override the locked setting by clicking a notification when the volume is changed. If you don't click the notification within 30 seconds, your volume settings will be reverted back to the last locked in value. Feel free to give it a try and provide feedback
I downloaded Volume Locker. But I am still able to adjust volume on the side of my phone. This is what I want to disable. Sometimes I turn the volume off completely without knowing when I am holding the phone talking or playing a game. WHat am I doing wrong?
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My problem is that I keep my ringer at a constant volume so I want the volume to adjust ringer deactivated entirely. I use something that disables the lockscreen so that I press the power to lock/unlock but the problem is the volume rocker also unlocks it. So I'm frustrated by a button that serves no purpose to me yet is an annoyance. I installed vomue locker because of the name but it doesn't seem to actually lock anything unless I'm missing an option/setting. I actually need something that LOCKS my volume rocker when on the home screen so it doesn't try to adjust anything.
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My problem is that I keep my ringer at a constant volume so I want the volume to adjust ringer deactivated entirely. I use something that disables the lockscreen so that I press the power to lock/unlock but the problem is the volume rocker also unlocks it. So I'm frustrated by a button that serves no purpose to me yet is an annoyance. I installed vomue locker because of the name but it doesn't seem to actually lock anything unless I'm missing an option/setting. I actually need something that LOCKS my volume rocker when on the home screen so it doesn't try to adjust anything.
Set the timeout to "Instant" and it will keep it locked with no prompts.
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I have been playing with Volume Locker on my new Nexus S, and I like how configurable it is and how it serves a proper notification instead of a pop-up.

Now that the undesirable persistent effects of accidentally pressing the volume rocker have been suppressed, I am wondering if it might be possible also to suppress the beeping that the volume control itself makes? When I find myself in a situation (meeting or whatever) where I want my phone to be quiet, I do not want it to make noise to enter quiet mode, just as I don't want it to chirp and burp just from being handled if my finger strays up along the edge too far. Maybe there is another setting or app that disables the audible feedback of the volume rocker? Or maybe this would be helpful functionality to add to Volume Locker?

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Get the volume widget from the market. One click to silence all.
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I have been playing with Volume Locker on my new Nexus S, and I like how configurable it is and how it serves a proper notification instead of a pop-up.

Now that the undesirable persistent effects of accidentally pressing the volume rocker have been suppressed, I am wondering if it might be possible also to suppress the beeping that the volume control itself makes? When I find myself in a situation (meeting or whatever) where I want my phone to be quiet, I do not want it to make noise to enter quiet mode, just as I don't want it to chirp and burp just from being handled if my finger strays up along the edge too far. Maybe there is another setting or app that disables the audible feedback of the volume rocker? Or maybe this would be helpful functionality to add to Volume Locker?

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Sadly there's no way to prevent it from beeping fully. If I can figure out a way around it or Google adds the ability to via the SDK, then I'll definitely add it as an option.
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Set the timeout to "Instant" and it will keep it locked with no prompts.
I set the timeout to instant and it still adjusts the ringer volume when on the home screen. Am I missing something?
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I set the timeout to instant and it still adjusts the ringer volume when on the home screen. Am I missing something?
Looks like a bug on my end, the fix was just pushed to the market
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Looks like a bug on my end, the fix was just pushed to the market
Ok, installed the update and now when I turn off the screen and push the volume button it doesn't adjust the ringer volume but it still activates the screen which means the 2nd press of the key adjusts the volume. What I need is for the screen to not even come on when enabled and a volume key is pressed.
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Ok, installed the update and now when I turn off the screen and push the volume button it doesn't adjust the ringer volume but it still activates the screen which means the 2nd press of the key adjusts the volume. What I need is for the screen to not even come on when enabled and a volume key is pressed.
Sadly that's a firmware/rom setting which the SDK doesn't let you control. Once they add support for figuring out where the audio change came from (app/rocker/etc) then there is a workaround. Until then there's nothing I can do :/
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Sadly that's a firmware/rom setting which the SDK doesn't let you control. Once they add support for figuring out where the audio change came from (app/rocker/etc) then there is a workaround. Until then there's nothing I can do :/
Nuts to that. Well thanks for the speedy responses.
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Angry Droid X - Gingerbread --- Ringer Volume

I have a Droid X and hate the way that the Ringer Volume cab be changed so easily and unintentionally. I have tried several Apps from Google play that supposedly lock the volume. They tend to:
- Not work at all
- Act as a dialog box, asking to you really want to do this.

I what an app that will totally disable changing the ringer volume except from within that app. ie No beeps etc. when accidentally touching the volume control.

Anyone know of such an app?

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