Well for one I think thanks At&t would be sone if Verizon gets an iPhone. I have iPhone buddies that told me as soon as the phone goes a different carrier they are gone. Now me. I'm gonna be real here. If iPhone came to VZW I would hop on the band wagon and get one. Don't get me wrong the Droid is great and is the best phone I ever had. But I also have an iPod Touch and the user interface is so much easier to use although not customizable like the Droid. And I love to IM people and android has no good IM apps. I also love my iHeart radio. If android gets beejive, iheart radio, beejive and multitoich I would not switch. Oh and apps that are stable. I would miss my navigation though and my google search bar
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I would consider it if the VZW Iphone did all the doesn'ts that the Droid called out in it's commercials. Other than that, there's no reason aside for the great media stuff.
Heck yeah! I hate being able to customize my phone with widgets to get the info I want to see and call the people I want to call with one click. I don't like the open development, I want a company that will reject apps because someone put the word "heck" in the code somewhere. I'm in.
Yes thats just what i want is a handicapped phone that you can't even remove the battery for starters So hell no!
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Verizon won't get iPhone...they've cut a deal with Google to keep iPhone off of their network! That's obvious...Verizon has been ripping the iPhone in nearly every commercial along with AT&T's network....
Google isn't stupid...they need Verizon to make Android #1 and the way to do that is to keep the iPhone away from Verizon....
And no, I would not get the iPhone. I love my Moto Droid!
Depending on what the new iphone looks like, I might or might not get it. I just like Android OS wayyy better then the iPhone OS. I wish you have the ability to choose the OS on your smartphone, I'd definitely get a super powered one, and run android on it.
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No iPhone for me! I was praying that VZW would get the iPhone until the Droid came out. I have the Eris and I LOVE it. Funny thing is, I was in the VZW store with my cousin who was picking up an Eris after she saw mine and the VZW guy said it's confirmed that Verizon is getting the iPhone next year. Don't know how much he knows though. Even if they do, I'm sticking with Android.
Not a chance. Apple is super over-priced, just like the macbook pro I am using to type this message, decent laptop, but it has its issues and I could have bought 3PC laptops for what I paid for the Mac, not worth it IMO
it got a proper home screen instead of an ugly grid of program icons
Widgets!!! I luv my widgets...
better multi-tasking
less annoying notifications
better resolution screen
In other words, if they became more like Android is now.
I have been eyeing that Sony xperia X10 wondering if they'll update that to Android 2.0 before release, otherwise it'd suck despite that gorgeous hardware. With an upgrade to 2.0 I'd eat the ETF and pick it up first day. The droid just seems very first gen, aka version 1.0 in the hardware design area to me. I hate that I can't wake the screen and unlock it with out having to shift it around in my hand (one-handed). Still it's a keeper and beats the current iPhone IMO. Wife has the iPhone and I wouldn't trade her for it, but I'll admit there are different areas where each excels. I miss my large iTunes video collection and wish there was something equal to it for non-Apple hardware.
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Lol I highly doubt Verizon made a deal with Google that would prevent them from getting the Iphone. Verizon knows Google's most likely not going to pay anywhere near the amount they could potentially make with the Iphone on their network. Not only would existing Iphone users buy it, but new customers would be immediately drawn to a partnership between the perceived "best phone" and the "best network". That's not to say Android on VZN would die out, I mean honestly the Iphone is not worth a full price upgrade, so I'm guessing a majority of Android users out there are going to be sticking with their device. I wouldn't be surprised if Verizon made partnerships with Google phones and Apple Iphones, the profit from having both on their network would probably be a monopoly lol.
Edit: How ever I would not leave Android. I feel Google will be on top of the smartphone world, and their Chrome OS will be popular in the pc market. Their the innovators right now Windows and Mac have lost their touch and need to get back to where they use to be, has Google is looking like it's going to take the top spot in the future.
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It depends on when they would get it. If it's like 2 years from now when I can upgrade again, then yeah I would probably get the iPhone. Any sooner than 2 years and I would stick with the droid.
The current IPhone compared to the current Droid, both on Verizon, it'd be close.
But, here's the thing. By the time the IPhone comes to Verizon, the 4G-LTE will be out, and there will be even better hardware(not impressed with motorola, sorry...) out, in say a year from now.
So, current IPhone compared to Android 3.x or 4.x running on HTC future design, I'm guessing(looking into crystal ball) that I'll be staying with Android and the Google environment.
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That was originally my plan, but after using the DROID for 3 days I'm not sure. It is a big improvement not having a keyboard but it will take more than that for me to buy it.
If the iPhone has a higher resolution screen, a flash for the camera, even better battery, and some other hardware improvements to justify paying retail I will get it. My biggest complaint about the DROID is that it has a keyboard but that is not a reason to change phones because other than that the DROID is awsome!
i don't want to sound cocky or a know but i have said it before and i'll say it again. my parents both worked for verizon for a long time before they sold their shares in hawaii...now only verizon wireless is available in hawaii...on that point I have talked to the CEO and Director of Sales for Verizon every year that they come to vegas in november for a regional sales meeting...both my dad and these executives have told me 2 things...1. Verizon wasn't and isn't willing to give up 80% of the profit shares to Apple just for the iPhone...that's the reason why Verizon didn't have the iPhone to begin with...they weren't willing to bend over backwards and allow Apple to run amok taking all the money...2. Verizon is the ONLY and i mean ONLY Carrier that drops over $1Billion back into its networking every other month. Although AT&T has more users they don't have the money to have the type of extensive and quick networking as VERIZON because they literally owe Apple money every month just for having the iPHONE...the hardware that AT&T is using is so old and obsolete that's why their coverage sucks balls...any techy guy will tell you that...
with that said I do know that APPLE's contract is almost up with AT&T. now would verizon scoring the iPHONE be good...probably...but is it worth it in the end not only for the company but also for its users? I highly doubt it...look at it this way apple regardless of what service provider you have will still charge you $.99 for every song, application, movie, etc that you download...do you have $10,000 to spend a year on things like that...HELL NO...end of rant...
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Really depends on what's out when the iPhone comes to Verizon. By then we'll have other Android phones out on VZW that will be competitors for attention as well. Believe it or not, the Droid will be yesterday's lettuce by then...
The iPhone lure for me is a lot about the broad compatibility w/so much hardware out there - seems like every clock radio/stereo/TV/car/you-name-it has an iPhone dock/connectivity built in. That's useful.
I'm not a "zillions of apps" guy, so the 100,000 apps vs. 10,000 apps issue doesn't really matter to me. There are so many more apps than I need/want on Android even now in it's broad consumer infancy, that I'm not worried about that.
One part about the iphone that's off-putting - if I have to jailbreak to make any significant changes to the iPhone, the openness of Android environment will go a long way to holding my loyalty. The "my way or the highway" approach of apple is a bit maddening...
That's a bit of a dumb question to ask here since Android = anti-Apple. If you buy the droid, most likely you hate the iPhone. Verizon would do well to get the iPhone since they can now capture the iPhone market and the Droid army.
It's just a rumor at this point and I don't believe it. My gut feeling is that they will stick it out with AT&T.
The question is will AT&T be able to afford to keep it? The contract is up in 2010 and if they can't reach a(most likely lucrative for Apple) deal then I'd bet they head straight to Verizon and they would probably take it after seeing how popular anything with a "i" in front of it becomes. And not true, I'd be a iPhone user right now most likely if AT&T didn't have the worst network imaginable.
short answer is YES. Long answer is IDK. It depends on where android is when they finally drop the phone on verizon it could very well cripple android in sales. That said i think android is great had a droid for about a month could not get past the crummy hardware keyboard but otherwise it was nice. I think that android will continue to pick off iphone like functions and do them better and more open. I am a former iphone die hard fan boy who is no longer such a fan boy for the device. I for one think it is still king of the mountain but there is room at the top for another best in bread phone. I think if ATT had a network like in europe that could take the stress iphone dumped on it then this whole story would be one of how verizon and sprint are all hemorrhaging people left and right in millions of customers to ATT. That is not the case there network is crap and every one knows it.
Depends on if it offers more. I like the idea of having a device that works very well internationally but android is just so f-ing awesome, i mean that cute little robot got me at start up <3. haha but seriously ive considered this, I could just sell my droid for $350-400 and buy the iphone pretty cheap but as of now I don't really think the next iphone will be better than the android line up on well all carriers worldwide.
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That's a bit of a dumb question to ask here since Android = anti-Apple. If you buy the droid, most likely you hate the iPhone
Bad assumption. I was one of those crazy people waiting outside Verizon the day the Droid was available, and I love my Droid.
But, before the droid, had the IPhone been available on Verizon, I'd already have one. I have nothing against IPhone, its a great product.
AT&T on the other hand, I've hated since the early days when they would change people(including me) to their long distance without asking, or even telling you they did it. I decided back then, I'd never do business with AT&T.
So, don't put me in the anti-Apple column, but you can put me in the anti-AT&T group.
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Bad assumption. I was one of those crazy people waiting outside Verizon the day the Droid was available, and I love my Droid.
But, before the droid, had the IPhone been available on Verizon, I'd already have one. I have nothing against IPhone, its a great product.
AT&T on the other hand, I've hated since the early days when they would change people(including me) to their long distance without asking, or even telling you they did it. I decided back then, I'd never do business with AT&T.
So, don't put me in the anti-Apple column, but you can put me in the anti-AT&T group.
I'm just sayin....
I totally agree, I loved my iPhone and iPhone 3GS, still think it is a great phone, every bit as good as the DROID which is the only real competition for the iPhone. But my problem is with AT&T. As soon as there was a decent phone that was close to the iPhone I switched and depending on what the new iPhone is like when it is available on Verizon, I will consider it.
Another thing to keep in mind though is the Google phone, it is coming. Google had a lot to do with building the DROID but not total control and look at how much better the DROID is than the competition (other android phones). I am looking forward to seeing what the actual Google phone has to offer.
And one last thing for the Apple haters, the iPhone revolutionized phones. They changed everything. Without the iPhone the DROID would not exist. It has taken everyone over 2 years just to catch up to apple and create anything close to the original iPhone.
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And one last thing for the Apple haters, the iPhone revolutionized phones. They changed everything. Without the iPhone the DROID would not exist. It has taken everyone over 2 years just to catch up to apple and create anything close to the original iPhone.
the cell phone also revolutionized phones. without the cell phone, the iphone would not exist. everything is built on something. so what. in fact, it's possible that if the iphone didn't exist a whole slew of innovative devices could exist now, as apple pretty much locked up the market there for a while and stifled competition. no one can say what might or might not have been.
don't forget that pda's including palm and win CE existed prior to the iphone. the iphone represented an evolutionary step, but it's stagnating. maybe android is the next step.
the iphone is simple enough that grandma can use it. but to me, its simplicity is a major limitation. the iphone is fine for many people. great. but it's not the second coming of christ.
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I bought the droid the day it became available, I got the 2 year contract, knowing that I will more than likely be upgrading after 1 year using the annual discount deal. I'm assuming a year from now, there will be something great, either the IPhone, or Droid 5.0, or something, hopefully on 4G LTE...
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No... TO me the Droid is the better competitor. It may not be as refined as the Iphone yet, but it will get there. The Biggest Difference between the two to me is the open source nature of the Android platform. Google is the good guy, open and available to anyone. Apple is bureaucracy and red tape that refuses to expand and locks features on their devices so you can pay or upgrade to unlock them later?? Who puts features on a phone like WIFI and then locks it so you cant use it?? Thats just ridiculous to me.
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I am just curious, for the people that said yes, what does the iPhone do that the Droid doesn't?
I think the iPhone is a fine device, but it seems like Android + Droid offers so much more.
Is it just because Apple has 300,000 apps? I mean, other than that, I do not know of one significant feature the iPhone has over the Droid.
(I am not trying to be a closed-minded, anti-apple person. I seriously don't mind the iPhone, I just don't get what it does that is so special)
1. The iPhone is a better designed phone physically. The Droid has a keyboard and is very box looking both of which are bad, even the tv commercials say the droid is not meant to look good.
2. Apps are better right now, but android is quickly catching up, so that is not really an advantage for long. Apple rarely has any new decent apps in the app store because there are so many now. And people criticize Apple's control of the app store but there is an advantage, when you get an app, it works! I have already had several apps from the market that never work as expected or just simply crash.
3. If an iPhone is jailbroken (which mine was) there is far more customization available than currently what is on droid, but I think that will soon change due to the openness of android.
4. Available accessories, but this is only because the first android phone worth considering in comparison to the iPhone was the Droid, accessories will catch up so again this is not an apple advantage for long.
5. Browser, media player, multi touch, all advantage to Apple.
But I have made the switch to Droid for one big reason: VERIZON. The Droid has some advantages over iPhone which is why I am happy with my Droid. These are mainly the google apps (maps with navigation, voice, goggles, etc), widgets are ok but I could easily love a phone with out them. But the question was about what the iPhone has that Droid doesn't. If apple ever finds a way to stop jailbreaking I won't even consider another iPhone, but until then there is always something better coming soon and I keep an open mind and recognize they both have advantages.
As an iPod touch user plus who owns a Droid (and came from a Blackberry), I would have considered nothing else is an iPhone was available or going to be available sometime in 2010. However with nothing but rumors, I wanted/needed a new phone.
I really wanted to want a Storm2 but the "click" screen was not for me. I was already enjoy a capacitive input on the iPod touch and couldn't deak with the click.
So I waited for the Droid. I like it but I also like the clean and simple interface of the iPod touch/iPhone. However the ability to multitask on the Droid is becoming a must for me.
Nothing sucks more on the iPod touch that enjoying Pandora and having to jump over and check my Exchange email and losing the music stream. I think some multitasking capabilities need to come to the iPod touch/iPhone.
I will say I don't need a physical keyboard on the Droid. I have not used it more than a handful of times.
So to answer the question, I guess it depends on where the phones are at in a couple of years...
If there doesn't emerge a media player in the Android market that competes with the extremely intuitive and robust iTunes, then I would consider making the switch. But the iPhone's disappointing battery life and closed market would still be a strong deterrent. My minor quibble about the Droid -- a problem the iPhone doesn't have -- is that it is a lover of dust. I would've much preferred a full-touch design with a superior virtual keyboard.
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I'll go with whatever company makes what I need when I need it. I am not brand loyal. I suspect that if and when Iphone comes to VZW it will not be as we know it to be now. Apple will most likely build something that is solely a VZW product. VZW doesn't want to copy AT&T, they want to rule over AT&T.
I'll go with whatever company makes what I need when I need it. I am not brand loyal. I suspect that if and when Iphone comes to VZW it will not be as we know it to be now. Apple will most likely build something that is solely a VZW product. VZW doesn't want to copy AT&T, they want to rule over AT&T.
I strongly disagree. That not like apple to release two flavours of a phone. They like to keep thiings simple and if anything they will release an iphone in one variant that supports both GSM/UMTS AND CDMA2000 its possible qualcomm just made a new chip and its been done on blackberrys for years. Maybe HTC can suck every carriers dick and make them a new phone fitting there needs in an even uglier style each time *cough here/eris* but apple doesn't caitor to carriers ,carriers caitor to apple and if they want the iphone they have to get on there knees and beg for it. (Side note no hate to HTC I love them but they destroy the hero every time I see it on a new carrier and it makes me mad.)
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Absolutely not. Have never had any interest in the iphone since day 1. The restricted, controlling mindset of Apple is a showstopper. Have never been interested in any Apple products, ever. Never will be.
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I predict that the iPhone will jump to a new carrier (maybe not exclusive) and there will be 1 more popular iteration of the device. At this point mainstream will realize that Apples mobile innovation ended on February 5, 2008 when they updated the first generation iPhone to 16GB. They will also realize that the innovation was only superficial. Apple will continue to make devices but sales will drop substantially.
I personally consider the iPhone as important device and a turning point in the way we interact with mobile devices. It's important because it bridge the gap between smart phones and dumb phones, attracted mainstream attention to the smart phones forcing other manufactures to finally start updating their user experience. However I like many other smart phone users realized early on that we would be taking a step backwards with iPhones in terms of functionality.
May you rest in peace iPhone!
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Well, not so sure it will be that soon. The Iphone for verizon would have to be a complete redesign for CDMA. Just not sure they will do it. But, I can see them doing it when verizon rolls out their 4g/lte network in late 2010 since 4G LTE will be common across many carriers in the near future.
I wouldn't be so sure that they don't have the design for CDMA. Remember that Apple went to Verizon first before they got rejected and then landed with AT&T. Also, the iPhone has come out in Korea which uses CDMA. And considering how there are so many rumors that the iPhone will come out for Verizon next year, I'm sure that they've already made the CDMA iPhone long ago and have had it in testing since.
I wouldn't be so sure that they don't have the design for CDMA. Remember that Apple went to Verizon first before they got rejected and then landed with AT&T. Also, the iPhone has come out in Korea which uses CDMA. And considering how there are so many rumors that the iPhone will come out for Verizon next year, I'm sure that they've already made the CDMA iPhone long ago and have had it in testing since.
Korea uses WCDMA and CDMA2000, the iphone in korea is exactly the same as the iPhone in the US only it is all on a "3G" network based of WCDMA (UMTS). Two different technologys you don't want to mix up. That would make no sense as people would be buying these "special iphones" from korea and quite easily hacking them on verizon but that has never been the case. CDMA is an air interface used in UMTS (WCDMA, HSDPA, HSUPA,HSPA+, HSPA, w/e) and CDMA2000 (1xEVDO, 1xRTT, EVDO, w/e)systems.
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I predict that the iPhone will jump to a new carrier (maybe not exclusive) and there will be 1 more popular iteration of the device. At this point mainstream will realize that Apples mobile innovation ended on February 5, 2008 when they updated the first generation iPhone to 16GB. They will also realize that the innovation was only superficial. Apple will continue to make devices but sales will drop substantially.
I personally consider the iPhone as important device and a turning point in the way we interact with mobile devices. It's important because it bridge the gap between smart phones and dumb phones, attracted mainstream attention to the smart phones forcing other manufactures to finally start updating their user experience. However I like many other smart phone users realized early on that we would be taking a step backwards with iPhones in terms of functionality.
May you rest in peace iPhone!
The iPhone isnt going to "jump" to a new carrier its going to remain on AT&T but not be exclusive and most likely move to T-Mobile. Phones don't disapear from carriers that fast no matter how shitty they are I can tell you that right now. Apple makes WAY too much money from AT&T + the iPhone.
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I would! If the iPhone got a better screen (better than the droid's), gets better battery life (better than the already good battery life of the droid), gets a faster processor than the droid, gets the ability to multi-task, and gets the ability to customize without jailbreak, gets ability to sync with my g-mail account. Then sure I'd switch in a second but... I don't think it'll happen, so in short no...
Hmmm... A few problems with that statement. First of all, the iPhone already has a better battery life. It has a faster processor (550mHz vs. 600mHz), and it can sync with Gmail. Has so from the beginning.
Multitasking, who needs it? You can't physically do two things at once. Yes it is nice to be able to minimize an app to check something online, but most apps just resume where they were closed. Screens are both beautiful, but I will admit, the Droids screen is better, far better.
Customization is needed, widgets on the main screen of the iPhone would be great. And I think Apple knows that. So I would guess iPhone OS 4.0. Macs have Widgets, why not the iPhone?
As for me, absolutely I will switch to the iPhone. I love my Droid, but I love my iPod touch more just because of ease of use and the straight forwardness of it. Because everything is by Apple, everything works together. The Droid is a great phone, but so is the iPhone. (Now if we were talking Mac vs PC... PC FTW!).
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