No... TO me the Droid is the better competitor. It may not be as refined as the Iphone yet, but it will get there. The Biggest Difference between the two to me is the open source nature of the Android platform. Google is the good guy, open and available to anyone.
Frankly, I think it will never get to the same refinement just because of what you said. It IS open source. As long as things are open source every manufacturer/carrier will have their own iteration of it, making the interfaces not as polished. However, if everyone used the Google standard (Google Experience I think??), maybe it could be come more polished. Think of it this way, jailbroken iPhones aren't polished because there are a million different things you can do with it.
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Who puts features on a phone like WIFI and then locks it so you cant use it?? Thats just ridiculous to me.
What are you talking about? The iPhone has always had WiFi on it, and it has never been locked.
Frankly, I think it will never get to the same refinement just because of what you said. It IS open source. As long as things are open source every manufacturer/carrier will have their own iteration of it, making the interfaces not as polished. However, if everyone used the Google standard (Google Experience I think??), maybe it could be come more polished. Think of it this way, jailbroken iPhones aren't polished because there are a million different things you can do with it.
I agree 100%. I don't mind if the Android OS isn't polished since I'm used to custom firmware so a little roughness on the edges doesn't bother me at all compared to some of the unpolished custom firmwares ive seen on iPhone, iPod touch, PSP, etc.
What are you talking about? The iPhone has always had WiFi on it, and it has never been locked.
Just my two cents. Yeah I'm not sure what hes refering to in that post, maybe its how verizon used to block wifi or how the iPhone first gen didn't have a 3G radio?
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I had total iphone envy before the Droid came out and now I can't see myself going back. Like others have mentioned, Droid has won my heart and is my top gadget of the decade. I recently looked at an iphone and was shocked at how unappealing it was.
The ONLY thing that I still crave from the iphone is the apps variety. Some of my favorite apps are still completely absent from Marketplace, especially the sweet NPR app. One day though, one day.
Nope, no way, no how. I bought the droid. I had a jailbroken iphone on ATT as well. I git tired of refixing the iphone everytime Apple released a new update. It always seemed to break the jailbreak. The droid monthly charges are cheaper. I belive this platform is going to take the smartphone industry over.
I would leave droid. I got a ipod touch and a droid at the moment. The droid is wonderful but I don't like carrying both. I need my itunes only podcasts and apps. Tried droid sync software they were all too half-assed.
The iPhone isnt going to "jump" to a new carrier its going to remain on AT&T but not be exclusive and most likely move to T-Mobile. Phones don't disapear from carriers that fast no matter how shitty they are I can tell you that right now. Apple makes WAY too much money from AT&T + the iPhone.
Really? Thanks for the common sense update! I just assumed that all the phones vanished when the manufacture switched carriers.
Creating a CDMA version of the iPhone is not really a big deal. HTC sells CDMA and GSM versions of the same phones.
I had specific reasons for getting the Droid. In my research I considered the iPhone but I did not want to leave the Verizon network. Ironically I manage the cell phones for the company I work for which includes a small fleet of iPhones.
I like how the Droid works and the physical keyboard. I just got the multimedia dock which is cool. I showed off my Droid to someone familiar with Apple and she was most impressed with the apps on our Android Market. While Apple has many more, she finds looking through them all to find the ones she wants really difficult and that there are a lot of really bad ones you have to wean through. She used the different keyboards and liked them. I like the GPS option - I got the car dock but haven't set it up yet.
If the iPhone came out with Verizon soon I guess I'd be in a 2-year contract with this one so it wouldn't be an option for a while, but I'm not really one to jump around unless I'm trying to work with something too problematic. I am encouraged by the first update addressing some of the issues I was having.
I have wanted a Iphone from the beginning. But I'm on a family plan on Verizon, so I have been waiting for the Iphone to come to Verizon. That is until that beautiful, beautiful day I saw the Droid TV Ad. I have been waiting since that day to get a Droid and now I only have 10 more days until my phone upgrade. Everyday I go on the internet, read these forums, watch unboxings and reviews. I'm obsessed with it and I don't even own it yet. So if both phone were on Verizon. I would go with the Droid. The only thing in my opinion that is better on the Iphone, is the Ipod in the phone. And Itunes. But I can live without them, because I am getting a Droid!
1. The iPhone is a better designed phone physically. The Droid has a keyboard and is very box looking both of which are bad, even the tv commercials say the droid is not meant to look good.
This is a matter of opinion. I find the Droid to be well built, better than the iphone and I have no issues with the looks
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2. Apps are better right now, but android is quickly catching up, so that is not really an advantage for long. Apple rarely has any new decent apps in the app store because there are so many now. And people criticize Apple's control of the app store but there is an advantage, when you get an app, it works! I have already had several apps from the market that never work as expected or just simply crash.
True there are more mature apps for the iPhone (mostly games) although I still think Android has better business apps. One that comes to mind is Touchdown. For games, I agree, iPhone is king, for now.
However, I had a 3g for a year and there were tons of apps that crashed. Hell even the well known Shazam, among others crashed repeatedly on my 3g. So Apple's supposed quality control isn't all that it's made out to be IMO. And looking at the Apple forums, I'm not alone.
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3. If an iPhone is jailbroken (which mine was) there is far more customization available than currently what is on droid, but I think that will soon change due to the openness of android.
The fact that the iPhone HAS to be jailbroken to install 3rd party apps (something the Droid can do from the get go)is a big knock against it. Most don't do it because it voids the warranty. In fact Apple is so against it, the newer iPhone 3gSs that have the 3rd, 4th and 5th numbers of the serial# above 940 can't be rebooted (when jailbroken) without running blackra1n again. Apple is slowly but surely clamping down on jailbreaking, and at the hardware level. Watch for the next iPhone to be next to impossible to Jailbreak.
Also the Droid has already been rooted which makes it just as (or more) customizable than a jailbroken iPhone.
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5. Browser, media player, multi touch, all advantage to Apple.
But I have made the switch to Droid for one big reason: VERIZON. The Droid has some advantages over iPhone which is why I am happy with my Droid. These are mainly the google apps (maps with navigation, voice, goggles, etc), widgets are ok but I could easily love a phone with out them. But the question was about what the iPhone has that Droid doesn't. If apple ever finds a way to stop jailbreaking I won't even consider another iPhone, but until then there is always something better coming soon and I keep an open mind and recognize they both have advantages.
Multi touch is smoother on the iPhone but Dolphin Browser not only gives me pinch zoom but tab browsing, which alone blows away Safari IMO. Media player? I don't know, the Droid's plain jane music player works fine for me although it does lack an equalizer which would be the only knock against it but I'm sure that will be remedied. As for videos, there are very few formats that I've not been able to play. And the Video quality on the Droid looks noticeably better than the iPhone for obvious reasons. Even youtube on the iPhone is no match for the Droid.
One of the biggest advantages of Android is the ability to multitask easily. Yeah I know there are tons of gimmicks on the iPhone but:
1. The iPhone has to be jailbroken.
2. They are no where near as seamless as Android.
Other advantages include a removable battery and a bigger much sharper screen. Having a battery go bad on an iPhone means a trip to the Apple store and maybe a Steve Jobs special (bend-over- and take-up-the-b*tt) by one of the 'geniuses'. I know there are external battery solutions but they are clunky and no where near as convenient as being able to use a longer life battery. Or even to simply switch to another full charged one.
Ever looked at the screens side by side? There is no comparison. I play with my friend's 3Gs every so often and cringe when I look at the screen. I guess I'm spoiled by the Droid's resolution.
So to answer the OP: There is no way in hell I'll get another iPhone.
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Nope ... Not interested. Droid is doing just what I want, and maybe more.
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I'm REALLY insulted. THIS lady is an expert marksman with and M-16, a 9mm and a shotgun. Not to mention my unarmed combat skills.... maybe you should try hanging out with REAL "ladies."
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I'm REALLY insulted. THIS lady is an expert marksman with and M-16, a 9mm and a shotgun. Not to mention my unarmed combat skills.... maybe you should try hanging out with REAL "ladies."
Nope. I am pretty much anti Apple. I dont feel a company should blacklist apps and control the consumer so much. If i buy a phone, its mine. I am not borrowing it from you. I feel like thats what Apple is all about.
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I'm REALLY insulted. THIS lady is an expert marksman with and M-16, a 9mm and a shotgun. Not to mention my unarmed combat skills.... maybe you should try hanging out with REAL "ladies."
5. Browser, media player, multi touch, all advantage to Apple.
I will give the media player to Apple. It is superb with lots of glitz and very intuitive. Sadly, I was very disappointed with the stock Droid player. I really thought Google could do better than that!! MixZing is a fairly functional substitution but I'm hoping to see it taken to the next level.
The browser however, I have to disagree with. Because of the Droid's screen and res, the browser is FAR more useful than the iPhone's. Fingering around the screen all over because it doesn't fit width-wise on an iPhone is rediculous. And pinch to zoom? I'm still trying to figure out why this the savior of the browsing world? I'll take a double tap any day which is faster and with the Droid, one double tap makes even the smallest print readable. I really don't see where pinch to zoom is better than a night in bed with (you pick your favorite model).
All one needs to see are the two screens side by side. That alone, in itself, one feature, is enough to make the iPhone look like a child's toy.
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I'm REALLY insulted. THIS lady is an expert marksman with and M-16, a 9mm and a shotgun. Not to mention my unarmed combat skills.... maybe you should try hanging out with REAL "ladies."
I had an iPhone 3G since launch before the Droid. I don't think anyone can't deny that this both are good phones, and the Droid is still second to the iPhone in terms of user interface smoothness.
I love the Droid's flexibility of one day being a full touchscreen phone, and the other day, if I feel like it, I can use the keyboard. For this, I find the Droid less boring than the iPhone.
The Droid's strong point is mostly Verizon's cell network. If Sprint had the Droid for example, I would've never left the iPhone for it.
Absolutely Not! However, now that we are on the subject, can I interest you in an iPhone 3Gs 32GB that was replaced by my Droid? You can beat the internet rush cause I am putting the phone on ebay this weekend!
No, Seriously!
PM me with details. I am selling mine as well. my buyer needs two
I have a MacBook Pro, an iMac, an iPod Touch, an old PowerBook, and am about to get a Mac Pro.
I don't need an iPhone. I love my Droid. The only thing I DON'T like about my Droid is that it _DOESN'T_ sync with my MBP. If anybody has a fix for that, I'd appreciate it.
I generally don't believe in having a business-critical device such as a mobile phone or laptop computer that I can't remove the battery from myself. Since my iPod isn't business-critical, I take my chances.
Yes, I would. before I get bashed, my reasons are simple. I like the interface, and like the corporate apps, such as Chase Bank, DirecTV (not superfan, the one that sets your DVR), MLB At Bat (coming to Android, but not live video like iPhone has), and etrade. It just seems that corporate usa will make any app for the iPhone, and some of these may come to android, but the fact of the matter is more than likely no.
another huge one for me is Mint. I know they keep saying it's coming out for Android, but I still have not seen it. I find it to be the best budgeting application on any device, and it's FREE.
I love my droid. Had the iPhone, hated ATT. I would welcome a Verizon iPhone with open arms simply for the fact of the apps that fit my lifestyle.
Droid is great. But outside of web browsing, I don't have the need for most of the apps they offer at this time.
cnnmoney just today reported that they believe part 2 of this weeks apple announcement will be the verizon iPhone by june. Just google verizon iphone... posted 4 hours ago.
This has been reported before and not been true. Is it true this time? we shall see.
Well, not so sure it will be that soon. The Iphone for verizon would have to be a complete redesign for CDMA. Just not sure they will do it. But, I can see them doing it when verizon rolls out their 4g/lte network in late 2010 since 4G LTE will be common across many carriers in the near future.
Either way I wouldn't trade my droid. I like having the keyboard, i like the open dev environment, and I like the OS in general. The only benefit to me of an iphone to me right now is the advanced gaming apps, but these will be coming to the droid soon.
unless they finally start letting you store apps on an sd card, i don't see how android will get any 3d games. can you enlighten me please?
no, i just sold my iDont to get a droid, everyone at my job has one
(iDont), its just...blah, my droid does what i want it to do... work, no jailbreking to make this phone cool, just a few apps, and im good. and did i mention the network is more reliable, not a single dropped call, all calls are clear, i love it!!
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no, i just sold my iDont to get a droid, everyone at my job has one
(iDont), its just...blah, my droid does what i want it to do... work, no jailbreking to make this phone cool, just a few apps, and im good. and did i mention the network is more reliable, not a single dropped call, all calls are clear, i love it!!
droidx - the question was if it came to verizon. That would be the same network you are on now.
unless they finally start letting you store apps on an sd card, i don't see how android will get any 3d games. can you enlighten me please?
The only way is if android phones are released with hard drives, like the iPhone or if they ran off of SD cards, which seems unlikely seeing how they don't even offer that option as of now.
There is no direct proof Android will get 3D games. Just internet babble. For me that is irrelevant, I don't play games on my phone, but I do understand some people do.
droidx - the question was if it came to verizon. That would be the same network you are on now.
i dont know how i would rephrase that, so my answer is no, if vz got the iphone i wouldnt give up my droid for it, i had it before, didnt really care for it, other than the fact it was an ipod with a phone, thats about it.
Let me ask this. Outside of multi tasking, what do you guys feel android currently offers over the iPhone?
I'm being serious, not a smart A. I'm truly interested in seeing examples rather than, iDont comments.
I'll start. Things I like on the droid: I love having the widgets running, while always on gtalk. I love the browser and being able to save images with a simple long press. I like the integrated google voice. For me, that's about it so far. Simply because every other app I use is available on a lot of phones, like facebook etc.
I already stated my iPhone reasons. The mainstream apps just are not there on the Android platform yet with a few exceptions. I can live without constantly being logged in to gtalk, and the browser is equally as good (and also can save images). iPhone also has the bar scanning price apps now as well, which I do use a lot on my Droid.
I realize many of you may NEED multi tasking. I really don't need that.
This isn't really an apple v.s Android OS thing for me, it's more about the application development. I won't question the android OS has a way higher ceiling... the question is, will the quality apps come out.
I wont use a Chase Bank app made by a 3rd party. Or an eTrade app for that matter. I want it made and endorsed by the bank and the trading company. I do not trust unauthorized financial applications nor should anyone.
I am a long time Android user. I had the G1 with Tmobile the first day it came out. The apps have not followed. That is my issue. People can tell me "they will", or "give it time"... but Android OS has been out for what, three years now? Yes Android has a lot of apps but let's be frank, most of them are 3rd party horrible applications.
I think many people think Android is brand spanking new, and that simply is not the case.
I agree with everyone's comments on ATT network, but the question is if it came to Verizon.
Where is an official ESPN app for android? Yahoo IM? AOL IM? They aren't there. FaceBook is a much lesser quality. I haven't been able to update a FB pic in weeks without getting 3 errors first before it finally goes through.
I am sure I'll get more "I hate the iDont", etc... but I would really love to see more solid reasons.
That being said, I respect everyone's reply and look forward to them.
Let me ask this. Outside of multi tasking, what do you guys feel android currently offers over the iPhone?
I'm being serious, not a smart A. I'm truly interested in seeing examples rather than, iDont comments.
I'll start. Things I like on the droid:
You stated you liked the Android widgets, but you saw no value in multitasking. Well, in order for widgets to function as they do, that my friend is multitasking!
After using widgets and in particular, location based widgets, it instantly became clear how superior Android is to the iPhone's OS. There simply is no comparison.
Second, the same 4x5 icon screens on the iPhone are the most boring thing on the planet. Consistent I'll give it, but absolutely boring. I've had an iPod Touch for years and while its a great "iPod", it doesn't totally suit my daily needs.
Third, the Android OS is truly customizable and you are actually allowed to replace ANY app on it with what you deem best. That's right, you can replace the browser with something else should you want to. Want a different home screen to suit your needs, go ahead and install. Nobody is locking you out of applications unless you "jail break" your phone. Wait until Sweeter Home is out of beta! Talk about the next innovative thing for the smart phone...and no, Apple didn't "invent" it.
I do agree somewhat with the apps to an extent. Every app I used daily on my iPod Touch had the same app, same vendor, available for Android. And besides looking and functioning exactly the same, the AP news app is actually faster on Android that on the iPod Touch. I do agree that some other apps are not available at this time but given the momentum behind Android, this will come with time. After all, most of the best apps on the Apple market where not there from the get-go either. When the Android platform is everywhere, on every network with dozens of phones, devs will start opening their eyes if they haven't already. Its not going away and will take a bite out of Apple.
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Let me ask this. Outside of multi tasking, what do you guys feel android currently offers over the iPhone?
I'm being serious, not a smart A. I'm truly interested in seeing examples rather than, iDont comments.
I'll start. Things I like on the droid: I love having the widgets running, while always on gtalk. I love the browser and being able to save images with a simple long press. I like the integrated google voice. For me, that's about it so far. Simply because every other app I use is available on a lot of phones, like facebook etc.
I already stated my iPhone reasons. The mainstream apps just are not there on the Android platform yet with a few exceptions. I can live without constantly being logged in to gtalk, and the browser is equally as good (and also can save images). iPhone also has the bar scanning price apps now as well, which I do use a lot on my Droid.
I realize many of you may NEED multi tasking. I really don't need that.
This isn't really an apple v.s Android OS thing for me, it's more about the application development. I won't question the android OS has a way higher ceiling... the question is, will the quality apps come out.
I wont use a Chase Bank app made by a 3rd party. Or an eTrade app for that matter. I want it made and endorsed by the bank and the trading company. I do not trust unauthorized financial applications nor should anyone.
I am a long time Android user. I had the G1 with Tmobile the first day it came out. The apps have not followed. That is my issue. People can tell me "they will", or "give it time"... but Android OS has been out for what, three years now? Yes Android has a lot of apps but let's be frank, most of them are 3rd party horrible applications.
I think many people think Android is brand spanking new, and that simply is not the case.
I agree with everyone's comments on ATT network, but the question is if it came to Verizon.
Where is an official ESPN app for android? Yahoo IM? AOL IM? They aren't there. FaceBook is a much lesser quality. I haven't been able to update a FB pic in weeks without getting 3 errors first before it finally goes through.
I am sure I'll get more "I hate the iDont", etc... but I would really love to see more solid reasons.
That being said, I respect everyone's reply and look forward to them.
I consider Android superior for the following reasons:
1. Ability to install almost anything without rooting.
2. Of course the multitasking which you mentioned already.
3. UI - I prefer Android's over the iPhone's. I never did like the way Apple organized the UI, reminds me a little of OSX - I think it sucks plain and simple.
4. Google's Apps: There are really no iPhone equivalent to Google Nav, Google Talk or Google Sky to name a few. And the navigation available on the iPhone for free isn't great. I also don't feel like paying to get decent Nav. I know there's a sky map app for the iPhone but it doesn't use the compass. I've played with it and it doesn't come close to Google Sky.
5. Free Apps: IMO, there seems to be more decent free apps for Android than the iPhone. The equivalents of what I have on my Droid are paid apps on the iPhone. Wifi Analyzer is a good example. Barcode Scanner is another. Pro Zoom Camera app yet another.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT POLISH. HOW AN APP LOOKS TO ME IS LARGELY IRRELEVANT. I know that's a big deal to many but I'm not that into looks.
6. Itunes: I hate Itunes with a passion and Apple forces everyone to use that garbage. I believe the alternatives do work with the iPhone but to get updates, install apps or sync, one is forced to use itunes for the most part. I'm sure there are ways completely around it but Apple does not make it simple.
7. Hardware: The newer Android phones match the iPhone in hardware and in many instances surpasses it. Now this may change soon but I simply don't care. The iPhone's screen is no match for the Droid's. And now that I've gotten used to the physical keyboard (been using it more and more), I find it hard to not have one available. Also, there is little excuse for not having a removable battery. The laughable excuses I read from the iPhone fanboys don't cut it. I like to know I can remove the battery for whatever reason without having to send it in or visit a store.
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8. Apple: I hate Apple. Hated them and their producs for a long, long time. I really don't know how or why I got suckered into buying a 3g when I did but I consider that a learning experience. I guess I just wasn't patient.
So there you go, those are my reasons for rejecting the iPhone and choosing Android.
Multi-tasking is much more of a joy on my Droid and previous phones than on the iPhone. My previous smartphones were windows mobile and multi-tasking is just a way of life for me, even if i did have to manage memory on my own.
Android seems to be going in the direction I want my smartphone to go.
I have nothing against Apple. I have an iPod and I like it thank you. I don't like the proprietary connector, or the lack of removable battery, but I tolerate that because managing my 15000 mp3 into smart playlists is done easiest and cleanest for me with iTunes and most easily navigated on the iPod.
I will consider iPhone when it comes to VZW, but I certainly won't be jumping on some bandwagon for it. It will have to offer the things I value in a smartphone and combine that with what I value in my iPod. If it does that, it will be the perfect device for me and I'll buy it. Otherwise, it's just another phone on the shelf to choose from the next time I go to upgrade.
Well, that is obviously fake! Apple employees don't even know what a new device looks like before the public. There is NO WAY a new iphone leaked. They are WAY too protected for that!
Plus, why would they use the same screen image as the last one?
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