Dr.Drane

I'm delaying my android phone purchase since the release of the G1 and I can't take it anymore. (though we still have only 1 android phone in Belgium, the Hero and it's way too expensive)

I'm thinking about importing a Milestone or a Nexus one...which phone do you prefer and why?

Thanks for the info and have a nice holiday!

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Biohazard

The Nexus One hasn't even been released yet so you can't really compare it to the Droi yet.

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Dr.Drane

Good point, but most of the specs are already available, and so are a lot of videos etc..but indeed asking something like "buy droid or wait for nexus" would be more appropriate.

Greets

Rix

Going by this review by Gizmodo, N1 is easily better than the Droid.

Dr.Drane

Thx for the info!

phobic

I'd take the Nexus One in a heartbeat. I strongly dislike the Droid's physical keyboard and form factor but it's the fastest Android phone out right this moment in the US so I'm with it for now.

ari-free

nexus one: no physical keyboard, only 4 gigs of ram, only on t-mobile....

thanks. But no thanks

MancusoX

I would love to have this phone, but its on t-mobile. And because its t-mobile, I won't get any service were I am going to school. I am waiting for a great Android device with a 1ghz processor, to arrive at Verizon. For now I am sticking with my Storm 1, because I am not fond of slide out keyboards, like the Droid has.

Dr.Drane

Uhoh... t-mobile only?

Because I need an unlocked version asap (and since I'm not that good at pleasuring men with my mouth I guess I'd better not count on getting an invite) and I live in Belgium, and I'm delaying my Droid import because of the N1 appearance...

dmodert66

This is an interesting conundrum, but one I wont loose much sleep over. I have a Droid, and love it to death. I am also past my 30 days, and will not leave VZW. That said, I first got an Eris, and enjoyed the experience with no keyboard and a more "iphone" feel. That said, the Droid should suit me for a year at least (when I can get another VZW upgrade). It will be interesting to see how much faster it really is. Remember, it's running 2.1 vs. Droid @ 2.01 which could feature optimizations (though I'm certain the Snapdragon is still faster)...

Dr.Drane

When it comes to gadgets I'm like a little boy getting a present from santa.

I'm still an HTC TYTN2 (aka Kaiser) user and I'm quite attached to my keyboard, so when the Droid came out (and it's still unreleased in Belgium and I guess it will stay like this for quite some time, if it even will get released over here that is) I was very happy to see a kick ass device with physical keyboard. And now when I was really considering an import Google comes along with the N1 making me unsure about everything...

But if so many people can do without hardware keyboard + the software kb on the N1 works nicely as it seems...maybe I can do so too.


Cool, there will also be an unlocked version available besides the T-Mobile version: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BD49220091214?type=technologyNews

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ari-free

I'm not really interested in an iPhone 'feel.' I really want something like the G1 with better specs.

I guess it's like watches. Some people want a Movado watch and I would rather have a digital watch with a stopwatch and several alarms

Dr.Drane

Yeah, but the "problem" is that unlike watches the mobile technologies evolve very fast and we can almost never have want we want... and we Belgian people use azerty keyboard so by the time we can buy an azerty device in France (online) the american people already have access to the next generation... so I'm already very happy if I would be able to get the N1 soon, software keyboards are easy so switch.

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ari-free

yes I realize it is much more economical to have one phone for the entire world that can have any language you want
But the nice thing about android is that phonemakers can cater to specialized markets...such as those who want 32 gig internal memory with an SD slot to spare...come on guys.

Dr.Drane

Hehe, yeah I agree. I've been following android (and phandroid) since the beginning and I really need to drop my damn M$ WM device asap for an ♥Android♥. As I'm a Java developer I should be able to write my own apps and I'm looking forward to do so.

Blackbrawler

4 gigs of RAM!!!!
is that a typo or are you serious?

Edit:
Yeah he meant sd...

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tats_06

I believe it said that a 4gb card was included in the box.

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craigrn16

This is a stupid poll. I still don't understand why Google would make a phone to compete with thier other phones or thier partners for that matter. Verizon busted there ass to promote the Android name which worked because alot of my freinds that didn't even know what it was now know thanks to the Driod and now Google just throws all that effort in the trash?

alostpacket

Don't listen to Gizmodo they are always horribly biased.

You can tell just by that article, he makes some of that stuff up.

QrafTee

I need a physical keyboard, so I have to go with Droid... That and the fact that I'm on Verizon which utilizes CDMA technology which the Nexus One may not support anytime soon.

cajunrph

I was thinking the same thing.

Dr.Drane

Whoaw, impressive change in the poll result. Last time I checked N1 was kicking Droid ass but now the tables have turned.

Carl C

Interesting poll

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tomn666

For me, it's the N1, no question, but I live in Belgium. I think you have to take the survey results with a grain of salt for your purposes since some people may be more biased toward a carrier rather than the phone. Perhaps the question should include a line like, "If you had to choose between the two and carrier were not an issue..."

sirsilent

just look at the hardware specs... N1 will have a 1 Ghz processor while the Droid still has a slow 528 Mhz CPU.

LansdowneMike

Those who say the N1 is TMO only are not quite right. Unlocked, it's a standard GSM phone, so it does work on ATT in the US and should work anywhere in Europe. Problem is that for 3G work, it only works on TMO's frequency. But the clear reports (see the long thread in the N1 Forum) are that it is very fast under ATT's Edge service.

If you want a hard keyboard and can use CDMA service (specifically, Verizon), get a Droid; if you can live with (or prefer) a software keyboard and either prefer or require GSM, get an N1. (Assuming price & contract length are not critical variables.)

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Dr.Drane

You are right. The whole carrier issues in the states slipped my mind when creating this thread. N1 is back on top in the poll results I see, cool.

wheelrandolph

Will the Nexus One work just as a phone without internet service plan? I have a T-Mobile phone (no internet or text service) and would like to use my sim card and just have wifi (where available).
I called T-Mobile and the girl said it would NOT work without a data plan. I am not sure that is true. ???

Chip.Deon

it was released today!!!! Flan 2.1

Chip.Deon

my black berry worked over wifi without a sim card!!! i think they brain wash them to think that, they think the world is flat!!! lol

jeff0r3

My vote goes to droid. For two reasons. I have one and two I haven't found a problem with it yet!! I have had WM phones, blackberries, palm's.. I've never had a phone this together yet... Have your Nexus... I'm just fine with my D-R-O-I-D...



BTW... Just watched a few videos on it.. I actually would take my Droid back to Verizon and get it if it were sold by Verizon...

Jeff

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Bxrider11

She is correct. The Nexus One is being sold by Google not T-Mobile. It is being offered with T-Mobile service right now through Google's web site. You will definately need a data plan, unless you buy the unlocked phone straight from Google. From there I am not sure of the plan break down.

blinky

I vote for the Nexus One because I don't like landscaped keyboards like on the Droid.

Big D

I personally will never own a Nexus One for the simple fact that I absolutely hate the scroll ball on it. My wife has the Droid Eris and she loves it but I just can't like it for the single fact it has that useless scroll ball. Am I the only one who feels this way.
Not to mention T-Mobile=FAIL!

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Yankeexpress

I agree. Trackballs truly suck rocks. How go you fix typos in Android? Fiddle futz around trying to get back up the page to the error is a nightmare. To be able to Just tap the mistake and have the cursor land right where you want it immediately is the only way to go.

Big D

You might have to eat your words on that... Spring 2010 (real specific )

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Dr.Drane

A trackball seems ok to me once you get used to it. (only tested trackball phones shortly so never owned one) If you use one hand on the screen and the other on the trackball you have a lot of simultaneous control I guess.

More on topic:

WRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I want to buy the unlocked N1 but "Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available in your country.".

G*d F*ck*n' D*mn*d!!!

The US version wont work in Europe right?

I guess (as usual) that by the time I can buy the N1 you guys will all own an N2 (for half the price I pay for the N1).

splenditello

i need some more hands on with the nexus one but it really seems like people are freaking out over it.. will it really be the "iPhone Killer"?

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onefix

I say Droid. The reason is that I think HTC has good software (extras), but poorly designed hardware.

The Droid just feels solid where as all of HTC's devices seem to have been built well in development, but are significantly cheapened when they go out for production.

With Motorola you may be getting the basic software, but at least you get rock solid hardware.

Dr.Drane

There will never be an iPhone killer. iPhone will just die a horribly slow death of suffocation by joined open forces.

Thanks for your reply bit I think a lot of people (including myself) will disagree with you saying that HTC has poorly designed hardware compared to Motorola.

How I see it: HTC imho makes kick ass hardware and Motorola made until the Droid almost no decent stuff.

28064212

Ummm... what?

You *can* use the trackball to go back. Or... you can just tap the mistake and have the cursor land right where you want it. It's a touchscreen, that's the whole point. The trackball's just there for a little finer control if your touching isn't that accurate

OldHooky

My vote goes to the Milestone (Droid).

I don't want to rely solely on a virtual keyboard and despite the Milestone's keyboard not being instantly perfect, it does become better and more familiar with use. When I first had a BB it took me forever to type a short e-mail, whereas now I'm fast and don't need to think about it.

Google as a phone provider is a bit of an unknown quantity. Throwing money at something and having the perceived limitless resources available are not always a recipe for success. You could make a comparison to a number of football teams (soccer for those with other ideas!) who have millions invested, buy THE players, but yet don't pull off the results that logic would say the combination would provide.

Motorola, with its telecoms pedigree, is telecoms focused, rather than thinking "we've got all this cash, what can we diversify into now"? I would hope that with this market development/challenge to their market, that they will work overtime to ensure that everything they manufacture, provide and update is market leading. Can they afford to do otherwise?

This was an interesting reply on another forum to a question I asked about whether the Milestone is already out of date, especially with the Nexus and forthcoming X10:

"I think the simple answer to your question is that a Snapdragon processor in a handset will, by itself, not make the Milestone feel like yesterday's technology.

The OMAP 3 in the Milestone (also used in the Satio and the N900) is pretty much as capable as the Snapdragon.

I think the Milestone will feel a bit yesterday compared to some upcoming Android sets but more for software reasons than hardware reasons."

I'd hope that the software disadvantage is only temporary.

Long answer, but the Milestone, as un-sexy compared to the HD2 as it might be (and I'm easily sold on esthetics!), is most definitely the one for me for 2010.

onefix

My statement is from experience. I used to have a Touch Pro which was replaced multiple times for various hardware related problems (cracks in the trim, batteries heating up, keyboard malfunctioning). After looking at HTC's other offerings, they all seem to be built to the same quality standards that the Touch Pro was...The Droid almost seems overbuilt, which is a good thing, Something I found out in the whole Touch Pro fiasco is that HTC doesn't really build their own handsets (at least not the CDMA ones).

What about the DynaTAC, MicroTAC, RAZR and various radios for sports and emergency personnel. Motorola makes good hardware, they always have. The reason why Motorola has been in the background for a while is that they were revamping the whole mobile division to drop Windows Mobile and migrate to Android as their primary platform.

Actually, the Droid vs N1 thing is probably a useless argument anyhow. The Droid seems to be aimed more towards a corporate customer (slide keyboard, industrial design). The N1 seems to be aimed more at gamers. In reality the only difference I can see between the N1 and the Droid is that the N1 has a faster processor and a trackball and the Droid has a slideout keyboard and a D-Pad.

Dr.Drane

Well I've got a HTC Kaiser (Tytn2) and it fell down the stairs a couple of times, and it fell out of my hands or from a table onto a concrete floor I don't know how many times...still works perfectly.
That's why I never even got to buy an Android device, cause my damn Windows Mobile devices just doens't want to die.

Also since the popularity of HTC (also among business users) I erge to believe that they really are quality devices.

I've had 2 motorola devices I think. One StarTAC or something if I remember well. And indeed the hardware was ok, but the software was kinda crappy. But Indeed perhaps Motorala's hardware isn't bad at all and I was a little bit confused with their disappearance from the market for some time.

Well for me it's still important because I still need to buy myself a new phone. I love hardware keyboards, though since there are a lot of complaints about the Droid keyboard, I thought I might just as well get the faster N1.

And I don't think N1 = gamers and Droid = corporate users because they are more alike then they are different... also I see myself more as a corporate user and still I'm thinking about getting the N1...
And if I were a gamer I would buy a small console and not a smart phone I guess. Anyway, these are just my thoughts and thanks for sharing yours.

Greets

Dr.Drane

Today I will visit a friend who know people in the UK and I will arrage something to let them buy and mail me a Nexus One. Cool. Looking ffwd to my 1st ♥Android♥ device.

evian

hey guys I live in Belgium too. Any idea when the N1 will be launched here? And if I get an N1 from the UK, will it work in Belgium

Thanks

97'es

Original startac was one of the best, most durable phones I ever had. Except for the antenna lol. I always preferred a flip, I loved my t720, E series too ( except for charging), E series was ahead of its time with software and hardware features like bluetooth for instance and a full megapixel camera lol. Ran into a lot of charging problems w motos though, T series, and E series. My razr just sucked balls in every other concievable way. Replacing batteries every six months among other things....

went to samsung U855 and loved every second of it, just like any piece of samsung electronics I've ever owned . Never one problem and a good camera. Couldn't resist the possibilities of the droid though. Now the chargers are all mini usb so its cool. I know you loyalist moto guys remember those crappy snap in charging ports. Used to blow in it like an old school Nintendo game to charge my phone no matter how often I cleaned the contacts lol.....

I'm an end user and don't care to violate my contract, though I'm getting tempted, honestly once the droid gets adobe flash I won't need to think about a N1 or anything else for 18 months. Moto re earned my loyalty so far. Just my .02 cents.

cruud

Lots of complaints against N1 bc the lack of customer support. Even when Verizon gets the phone again it'll probably be up to Google to support the phone. In a T-Mobile store you cannot demo or buy accessories. The N1 is a great phone. Support looks to be lacking right now though.

gonzoguy24

Wait for N1 if you can!

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CRPercodani

You mean it has a very fast 550mhz A8, not the old ARM11 528mhz CPU's.

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