I want to keep my phone stock, but depressing news like this comes out all the time. Rooted phones are advancing at a blistering pace, while the stock droid does nothing. It's a shame that you have to basically softmod your phone to get features even lesser phones are getting.
I'm rooted but I would love Flash 10.1 which is the only reason I want 2.1. Guess we'll just have to have patients. If they don't get the upgrade in the next 2 months though I might have to pick up an eris. Thier cheap.
Some of you guys display the patience of a freaking gnat!!! Stop watching videos and reading bullcrap. Be content with what you have. And before you know it, your Droid will be running 2.1 with Flash.
Im gonna go out on a limb and wager that we will get the 2.1 update on March 1. The updates info out there says which devices will be updated in Q1, Q2 and Q3, but for the Droid it says "Soon" which implies that it will be prior to the end of Q1. March 31 is the end of Q1 so the 1st is a good guess.
Flash + 2.1 is not really a "rumor"..It's more speculation I think...It HAS to be 2.1 or a later revision. Adobe has already stated that the "Current Android platform" needs to be tweaked a bit for flash to work. So people hypothesize either "current" meant sub 2.1, or that "current" meant 2.1 and it will require 2.x...
Also, what Radikal said was completely true. Either a the rom with Flash will leak before it's live, giving the devs time to create a rom that flash will work with, or we will see it shortly after the rom with Flash is released and it will be available to other roms. I guess there is a third possible scenario and Flash is a stand alone download from the store. In that case, soon after release it will be made available for current roms...
Just wondering why there would be so much surprise that 2.1 would hit the eris before the droid. I know that it lacks in specs, but its an HTC phone. Kinda like the other one running 2.1. I'm sure HTC had their hands on 2.1 before motorola, since they already made a phone with it. Maybe if they had 2 rumored release date/week fiascos I would be surprised... but I digress.
Flash + 2.1 is not really a "rumor"..It's more speculation I think...It HAS to be 2.1 or a later revision. Adobe has already stated that the "Current Android platform" needs to be tweaked a bit for flash to work. So people hypothesize either "current" meant sub 2.1, or that "current" meant 2.1 and it will require 2.x...
Close, but not entirely right. Adobe has officially come out and said that Android 2.1 is a pre-requisite for Flash.
Some of you guys display the patience of a freaking gnat!!! Stop watching videos and reading bullcrap. Be content with what you have. And before you know it, your Droid will be running 2.1 with Flash.
Live Wallpapers has to do with the background not the foreground as shown in that video. The effects are coming from HTCs weather widget which has animations on screen.
just imagine how well it will run on our Droids! Isn't that something to be happy about? Sure makes me excited. I was pissed off at first, but now I am just truly excited to see a Droid optimized version of Android 2.1 if the Droid Eris does, Droid Does Better
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just imagine how well it will run on our Droids! Isn't that something to be happy about? Sure makes me excited. I was pissed off at first, but now I am just truly excited to see a Droid optimized version of Android 2.1 if the Droid Eris does, Droid Does Better
For Eris maybe, but I haven't seen or read anything in regards to the Droid update being possibly leaked, which is why I posted the link.
It only happened last night apparently, so I stand corrected about us knowing about it for the last couple of days (although I could have sworn he said he had it running stable for the last 3 days)...
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For Eris maybe, but I haven't seen or read anything in regards to the Droid update being possibly leaked, which is why I posted the link.
It only happened last night apparently, so I stand corrected about us knowing about it for the last couple of days (although I could have sworn he said he had it running stable for the last 3 days)...
Do you make this stuff up in you sleep, or what???
I'm trying to understand what it is you don't get with this. Rooted phones are currently WAY faster than non rooted. They already have the best stuff from 2.1, but somehow you think that when flash comes out, none of the dev's will work on providing it for rooted phones? UHHHH... HELLLLOOOOO.
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I'm trying to understand what it is you don't get with this. Rooted phones are currently WAY faster than non rooted. They already have the best stuff from 2.1, but somehow you think that when flash comes out, none of the dev's will work on providing it for rooted phones? UHHHH... HELLLLOOOOO.
My rooted phone is not "WAY" faster than it was unrooted, it is slightly faster, but only in a really geeky way.
I'm actually quite suprised how stable my phone has been rooted, actually had more problems prior to rooting. I think the work Pete is doing is fantastic and unlike our official releases things get addressed quickly.
That being said, we'll see how long it takes to get a stable rooted 2.1 running with flash. Pretty sure the stock 2.1 will be at least somewhat stable, and who knows maybe 2.1 stock will be WAY faster than 2.0.1. One thing for sure, if I go back to stock my marriage will be much more stable.
Why are people so anxious for flash player? Besides a few internet games, I find flash unnecessary, buggy and bloated. I loathe flash enabled sites and very rarely do I find any site where it is absolutely necessary.
Not trying to start a heated discussion, I am just wondering why people are so antsy about flash player. I am actually kind of glad that it is not available.
I'd like to have it running so I can stream recorded TV shows from my MythTV server to my phone. Not all Flash is YouTube or crappy Web ads.
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if you are root, you will probably get flash via update from someone
Do you make this stuff up in you sleep, or what???
well yes, but joking aside, what i meant was that we now have sense UI running flash, so PETE, sholes, someone will get it out and put it in a rom, so you will get it from someone if you are root
As far as I am concerned this delay is inexcusable. If the nexus could do it over a month ago then this is stupid. Also I am getting very annoyed by Motorola's recent behavior. They are completely about money now which I know they are a business but they had a more humble tone before the droid came out and now they are like oh windows 7 is cool now, even though they disowned it earlier and I know it used to suck in comparison but it is the principle of the matter , so now they are like well android isn't as cool as it was and we are going to screw up the entire release of a major software for our company saving phone! We also only care about blur and not just plain android. Were going to leak info too early and then give the lame "soon" label for over a month. Sorry but i am getting very frustrated with these people!
As far as I am concerned this delay is inexcusable. If the nexus could do it over a month ago then this is stupid. Also I am getting very annoyed by Motorola's recent behavior. They are completely about money now which I know they are a business but they had a more humble tone before the droid came out and now they are like oh windows 7 is cool now, even though they disowned it earlier and I know it used to suck in comparison but it is the principle of the matter , so now they are like well android isn't as cool as it was and we are going to screw up the entire release of a major software for our company saving phone! We also only care about blur and not just plain android. Were going to leak info too early and then give the lame "soon" label for over a month. Sorry but i am getting very frustrated with these people!
Like it has been said time and time again in this thread, Just Root Your Phone. Best thing I could have ever done to this device. I held out doing it for months, just did it yesterday. It is like a new phone to me now, and all the functionality i could ask for. If i get tired of one theme, i will just install a different ROM. Awesome.
Like it has been said time and time again in this thread, Just Root Your Phone. Best thing I could have ever done to this device. I held out doing it for months, just did it yesterday. It is like a new phone to me now, and all the functionality i could ask for. If i get tired of one theme, i will just install a different ROM. Awesome.
I am glad you enjoy rooting your phone, but the general public shouldn't be expected to do this to get the latest software updates. This update was promised then reneged upon, and too much time has passed with no information. I've been checking this thread daily hoping for an update, and I agree the delay is inexcusable.
They are completely about money now which I know they are a business but they had a more humble tone before the droid came out and now they are like oh windows 7 is cool now, even though they disowned it earlier and I know it used to suck in comparison but it is the principle of the matter , so now they are like well android isn't as cool as it was and we are going to screw up the entire release of a major software for our company saving phone!
I think people are blowing this way out of proportion. This would be like saying that because PepsiCo is making Diet Pepsi, they really don't care about Pepsi anymore. Motorola is only looking at WM7 to diversify their product range (the Moto Q was actually a decent phone anyhow). Ultimately, they probably are just concerned that focusing only on Android makes them vulnerable (which it does). What if Google decided to drop Android? What if something happens that drives customers away from Android? I would be more concerned about Motorola if they weren't looking to diversify.
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Like it has been said time and time again in this thread, Just Root Your Phone. Best thing I could have ever done to this device. I held out doing it for months, just did it yesterday. It is like a new phone to me now, and all the functionality i could ask for. If i get tired of one theme, i will just install a different ROM. Awesome.
Like it has been said time and time again, not every one wants to root.
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Unfortunately it seems Moto and Verizon will never release the software needed to let the Droid do everything it can do..so rooting will always remain the only way to do so. .
Well I agree rooting is the way to go but, like it was said, we should not be forced to such measures to get a phone to do what it already should do and can do. Also I can wait for the update I just think it should have already been out. I however do not want to root and am fine without it because this is the best phone I have ever had I am just looking for even better hehe . Also I am not really mad or worried that moto is looking for other ways it just seems that they are getting a bit stretched already with as many models as they have and now want to add an entire new OS. My problem is if they can't keep us updated and ready to go now then what will happen when they have so many more products and are not focused on this solely like they were which I believe led to such a quick December update IMHO.
They're probably just monitoring all the rooting developers so they can take the best of the the best and give us that.
Probably all just sitting around the pool sipping margarita's watching the forums, and every now and then they say, oh it looks like this xxxx guy is on to something, maybe we should try that. Free R & D.
EDIT, now that I think of it, the only thing left is to get the 2.1 launcher running stable. Watch the forums, when 2.1 launcher is stable, we'll see the release.
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Just give us full 2.1 (you know, the same exact thing that's on the N1). It's as simple as that. Stop over-thinking this. Stop trying to make the N1 an "exclusive" device and look out for the top selling Android phone (Droid) so you can increase customer loyalty. As a matter of fact, give all Android phones the same OS. Fragmentation does nothing but create in-fighting and jealousy between various Android device owners (G1, Droid, Nexus one, three different OS's... one better than the next), which decreases customer loyalty. At this point my customer loyalty is waning and may totally dissipate if we get a watered down version of 2.1. Right now a lot of people are rooted and they refuse to unroot for a watered down 2.1 OS. And it's ridiculous that people have to root just to get some of the good features of another Android device (N1) when our device is just as capable of having those features stock. I'm willing to bet that 70% of the people that are rooted right now chose to do so because they wanted some of the cool features from N1 and got tired of waiting for the OTA and are now not even sure if the OTA will have those cool features (3D app drawer, live wallpapers, 5 homescreens, etc.)
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, so now they are like well android isn't as cool as it was and we are going to screw up the entire release of a major software for our company saving phone! We also only care about blur and not just plain android. Were going to leak info too early and then give the lame "soon" label for over a month. 
