jxker

When I dial out using Google Voice the area code and number aren't the mine...does the person i am dialing see MY GV number on their caller ID.....GV is pretty useless for me if it is dialing out with a number unknown to my contacts

messenger13

Google Voice dials out using the number that YOU picked. It is your Google Voice number. You don't remember picking a new number when you signed up for Google Voice? Or did you choose the other option?

__________________
- Joe

Future ... err ... PROUD, NEW DROID BIONIC owner!
Rooted, BRICKED!, and restored!

stearic

The person you are dialing will see your GV number. It's just the way the gvoice app works so you don't have to manually input your passcode and then the number you are dialing when you goto use it.

AndroidsOfTara

The person you are calling will see YOUR GV number, not the number you see the GV app dialing to place the call.

You can easily test this by simply calling another phone and observing what is displayed on the screen...

LoBatt

And if you put that number GV dials in your friends and family list calls are airtime free. I thought the number would rotate amongst a bank of numbers to thwart this but my GV always dials the same number.

messenger13

I just had a "Duh! Why didn't I think of that!" moment.

Thanks for the tip!!!

UBRocked

Any word on when Google will send out more invites. I don't have enough of a need for it to start panhandling with a sign that says "Will work for Google Voice"...but I would like to try it out...Interesting concept.

__________________
Myself: Galaxy Nexus, Droid 3, Transformer, Logitech Revue, Sony Blu-ray Player with Google TV
Wife and Kids: iPhone4, Apple iPad, Galaxy Player 4.0, B&N NookColor
Retired: Thunderbolt, Droid Pro, Fascinate, 2 Motorola Droids (the OG), Galaxy Tab (7" WiFi), Archos 70

labwizard

1. You can "buy" the invite on Ebay for about $2.50. I did.

2. Unfortunately I don't have texting so I have a plan without "friends & family" so I only save on outgoing, I still pay for incoming.

allanlaw

I don't have texting (other than pay as your go), but since I have a 900 minutes plan I have the 5 "friends and family" deal. Also, I do not understand the underlined part of the post.

DjSmooth

That number is your specific Google Voice Access number, and yes they will see your GV # on their caller ID. And if you have "Friends and Family" that access number is the number you add to your F&F with Verizon, Fav Five w/T-Mobile, and or A-List w/AT&T.

__________________
Warning Warning, Noob Alert...So bear with Me..."Shall We Begin?"

shadowdude777

Hmm. So adding that number that you see when you dial out to F&F gives you free calling? Does that apply to incoming AND outgoing? And adding the GV number you signed up for doesn't give you any of these benefits, right?

__________________
Current phone: Droid Charge @ 1200MHz. ROM jumping, waiting for CM to arrive!

LoBatt

Putting the "special" number that the GV dialer calls into your friends and family list will make outgoing GV calls airtime free because it's calling a friends and family number.

To get free incoming calls using GV, you have to change your GV settings (on a computer) so that the caller id of incoming calls is always your GV number (as opposed to having it display the number of the person who is calling you). You then add your GV number to your friends and family list so now all your outgoing and incoming calls using GV are airtime free.

You can still know the identity of the person calling you if you have call presentation enabled in GV (asks the caller for his or her name the first time then remembers it later or a computer voice reads the name if it's in your contacts).

brandonhd

jamesdean

You can still text for free incoming and outgoing through the GV app. The sender must text to your GV number.

Last edited by jamesdean; March 17th, 2010 at 10:43 AM.

jamesdean

There is a great app that integrates nicely with GV that does not use the access number therefore saving one of your F&F. It also does not require the data side of your plan and because of that is often more reliable. You can also include or exclude numbers from going through GV and saves an extra step if you have the GV app to ask each time you make a call.

It does cost $3.00, Flex Dialer Pro.

allanlaw

I read the information about this app on the developer's website and cannot fathom how it would let you dial out on GV without using a F&F number and still provide no minutes charge.

jamesdean

I did not say it would use GV without a F&F number. I said it would use one less F&F number. With the GV app you need 2 F&F, your GV number & the access number. With Flexdialer Pro you only need your GV number in F&F.

allanlaw

So someone calls my real GV number, which I have NOT set up in F&F. No minutes? How does that happen?

jamesdean

You must put your GV number in F&F for the call to be airtime free.

allanlaw

Go back to my original post #16 - that was my question. How does this program let you dial out on GV for free without using up a F&F slot for the outgoing call? The developer says the call will go out using the cell network. What it has to do (if it avoids minutes) is access GV just like the Droid was a PC, not a phone, using the data connection. The callback would then be on the cell network, and the F&F GV would apply.

Last edited by allanlaw; March 17th, 2010 at 02:21 PM.

jamesdean

The program will not allow you to make free calls without a F&F slot and I nor anyone else ever said that it would. You obviously are having difficulty in understanding my original statement that it will use one less F&F than the GV app. I don't know an easier way to explain it.

CRPercodani

he is talking about it not needing 2 ff slots. how does the app only need 1 slot for incoming and outgoing?



Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk

__________________
So I'm guessin' there's questions that need addressin' like how he fresh in the adolescence and wreckin em'
Rules & Guidelines, Zero Tolerance Policy.

CRPercodani

ok so i read everything about flex dialer pro and it says it does outbound calls, but what about inbound? if it doesn't do inbound it is useless for this purpose.



Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk

takeshi

Nope. For incoming you can use the steps above or rely on your F&F list (with only F&F inbound being free, of course). I really don't need all inbound calls to be free so I don't have all inbound calls set to show my GV number for caller ID. I don't like call presentation either though.

Last edited by takeshi; March 17th, 2010 at 02:56 PM.

allanlaw

Thanks - maybe he will understand you, I seem to be a lost cause . . .

jamesdean

He use the term "a" F&F slot. That is not 2. Flexdialer Pro only uses one slot because it dials your GV number to place the call unlike the GV app that dials a different access number. So to use the GV app you need 2 slots, the access number for outbound and your GV number for inbound.

CRPercodani

ok but how does it handle incoming calls without using the gv app?



Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk

allanlaw

Thank you, now you've answered my question.

jamesdean

It does not handle incoming calls, nor does the GV app. Someone calls your GV number, it forwards to your cell, you have GV set to show the GV number as the caller id and viola, free call.

Last edited by jamesdean; March 17th, 2010 at 03:20 PM.

allanlaw

Incoming calls do not need any app - just set up GV (using your computer) to ring the Droid's cell number on incoming calls, and have your GV number as a F&F number. Then, if he is correct that Flex Dialer uses that same GV number to make outgoing calls, the one F&F slot set for the GV number covers incoming and outgoing calls. Yippee - that only took all morning to straighten out . . .

allanlaw

Do you know if the free Flex Dialer app works the same way?

jamesdean

Yes it does but the widget is huge with advertising but it would at least give you a chance to try it out.

allanlaw

Thanks, I've downloaded it and will try it out.

Last edited by allanlaw; March 17th, 2010 at 03:47 PM.

sftl97

Not trying to highjack this thread just want to let you know flexdialer has it's problems. I've had flex dialer for some time and the calls do not always go thru. In most cases GV does not accept the call(message says wrong pin number) i've checked and double checked and pin is correct. it takes multiple tries before GV accepts the call and puts you through to your calling party as a free call.
Have yet to figure out what the problem is, maybe it has something to do with the free version of flexdialer. Have not tried the paid version, if i pay for it and it turns out to do the same thing then i'll be pissed.


Fred

jamesdean

The commas or pauses can have a big effect on this. Flexdialer will provide the string as entered so if there is a delay in the initial call connecting then the whole string will be off and result in the behavior you described. I personally have GV setup not to require a pin when dilaing from my cell and my settings are A,B,2,C# and it works 100% of the time.

You might try this and see if it helps.

allanlaw

In my brief experiments with Flexdialer Free yesterday, I first had to make sure the default number which GV uses to place a call was my Droid number, not my home number (done on the computer), although that could have been because I was using my home phone as the test number I was dialing. I also found it worked a little better with A,B,P,2,C# as the dialing string.

jamesdean

The number Flexdialer dials should be your GV number (A). The additional P you added could also be accomplished with a comma as both will add a pause. Adding the additional pause will add a small delay in the call processing but also will add more reliability as you are allowing more time for GV to answer before processing the rest of the call string.

sftl97

I have tried several different combinations on pauses and still get the same error msg. I will try it without the pin and see if it makes any difference.
Thanks for the info.

Fred

gruss

There is also a free app out there called gv I think. It has a callback feature so you only need one slot of ff. Dev has stopped support but the program works better than the official app.

labwizard

The sender does send to my GV number and I get charged for an incoming text. I have an old plan ($19/month for 450 minutes) and data plan. I pay .20 for each incoming text from GV. I'm not complaining, just saying some of us do have to pay, one way or another. I could up my plan by $40 bucks to save $7 in text charges but I think not.

jamesdean

If you have a data plan, and if you use the GV app, and if you configure GV to not send texts to your cell number you will not be charged for incoming GV texts to your cell. If you are being charged for texts then one above the above is not true.

allanlaw

Report?

labwizard

Voicemail Notifications
Alert me when I have new voicemails
Email the message to xxx@gmail.com
Add a new email address

Send a text (SMS) message to:
Mobile

Add a new mobile phone


As you see, email only, no TEXT SMS

allanlaw

Did you check that box? If so, SMS will go to your cell number, thus incurring text charges.

4x4le

I dont know if it still does it or not but when I first started using the google voice app I noticed that it would change the access number every once in a while. Thats when I started using the flex dial app.

you will need to play with your pauses and commas but I have mine working great. I have the paid version as well and I have no issues with it. It is the best paid app I have. Its widget is much better than the free version (which is stupid) and allows for up to 4 or 5 different numbers. I use 2 and have it set on my front page. It is simply an on off button. My second one I have set up is set to block my number when I make a call. This is handy when you have that annoying person ask to borrow your phone, and then their dumbass friend calls you back later asking where ever who called them is. Just hit the button and it blocks your number before handing them then phone.

Also you have exceptions you can list. For example I use my google voice for business only. I have any contact in my address book that is a friend set to dial out with my normal number even if the google voice dial is set on. That way if Im handling business and happen to need to call a friend they dont get confused by my odd number calling them ect. Its well worth the money.

jamesdean

Perfect example of the integration of FDP and GV.

labwizard

Yes the box in not checked. I'm not sure why it charges me. I thought maybe they called my cell number, not GV but my cell will not accept a call except thru GV.

icecold

Which number do you have to put into the F&F contact list? Obviously, you need to put in the GV number you set up for the outgoing calls, but do you need to also include the pass through number (area code 406 number) to handle the incoming calls as well?

Or is the pass-through a Verizon Wireless number, and therefore a free call?

jamesdean

The access number is a Google number and will need to be added for airtime free outgoing calls.