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Old March 29th, 2010, 09:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a Telus Milestone (IHDP56KC5) that I am running on AT&T. When using the GPS it seems like it always takes 3-5 minutes to get a lock on the satellites and start navigating. Using GPS Status, I get satellite signal within 15-20 seconds of activating the GPS, but do not get a nav lock for 3-5 minutes, this seems excessively long. On my Motorola Q9h Global I had prior, I could start navigating with the GPS within about 30-45 seconds after turning on the GPS. Would this have anything to do with AT&T not having my IMEI for this phone (since from what I understand aGPS helps for a faster lock using the cell network and if they don't have my IMEI my phone possibly isn't using aGPS???). Under Location & Security settings I do have "Use Wireless Networks" checked.

Any help would be appreciated as this is an aggrivating issue as I'd like to use the GPS often.

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I also have this problem and mine also looses the GPS signal very often.

Flashing my phone to the unofficial 2.1 update seams to have helped with the slow GPS locks but there are other issues I'm having with the unofficial update (not GPS related but keyboard related).
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I am wondering if the network you are using aGPS on needs your IMEI number to properly use aGPS... Does anyone know if this is the case???
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I created an application for Android which is using GPS & Wifi/network signal to locate your phone, so, I know a thing or two.
All navigation software needs more precise location & from many satellites, to locate you on the map. If I remember well, they start working after the get constant updates from 4 satellites.
The software that locate you on the map (like Google Map), can give you the location from 1 or 2 satellites.
The Wifi/network location, does not need you credential to work. They simply calculate your location, based on the cell towers (network antenna) signal, and Wifi signal.
The GPS reception can be altered by cloudy sky or bad weather (snow...), high buildings near you...
Try starting your GPS Navigation software, in a different area - more open, and see if you have better results.
On my Milestone, Navigon is functioning after 30/40 seconds.
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I've tried my GPS in many different (wide open) locations in several different parts of the US, same result, no navigation for 3-5 minutes. I have several friends with the same phone on AT&T and have the same issue.

Using GPS Status, you can see that the phone starts "seeing" multiple satellites within 10-20 seconds, but it takes 3-5 minutes for it to lock a position and begin navigating. It is very frustrating as it almost appears to be a problem with this phone on AT&Ts network (almost like the phone isn't getting the proper info for aGPS to work from AT&Ts network).

The GPS appears to be doing a stand alone "Cold Start" (unassisted) based on the time it is taking for it to calculate a position.
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I've tried my GPS in many different (wide open) locations in several different parts of the US, same result, no navigation for 3-5 minutes. I have several friends with the same phone on AT&T and have the same issue.

Using GPS Status, you can see that the phone starts "seeing" multiple satellites within 10-20 seconds, but it takes 3-5 minutes for it to lock a position and begin navigating. It is very frustrating as it almost appears to be a problem with this phone on AT&Ts network (almost like the phone isn't getting the proper info for aGPS to work from AT&Ts network).

The GPS appears to be doing a stand alone "Cold Start" (unassisted) based on the time it is taking for it to calculate a position.
Im using mine on Telus and sometimes it can be slow to acquire (especially when in a car moving) but it does connect eventually sometimes within seconds
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Its really not that bad. I get GPS lock within 2 minutes in the rain, 20 seconds in daylight, but I *NEVER* turn GPS off fully, so the battery hit is probably keeping a relatively decent location in memory.

Its not nearly as bad as my old touch pro, which would take 20 minutes standing in a field on clear day to get a GPS location.
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Running the default 2.0 or 2.0.1 OS mine is definitely slower at finding a GPS lock than my previous Nokia E71. Even with aGPS turned off the Nokia is faster. BUT with the unofficial 2.1 update (the update is not yet available for my region) the GPS gets a lock within seconds as stated a few posts back by Brendanmurphy.
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Running the default 2.0 or 2.0.1 OS mine is definitely slower at finding a GPS lock than my previous Nokia E71. Even with aGPS turned off the Nokia is faster. BUT with the unofficial 2.1 update (the update is not yet available for my region) the GPS gets a lock within seconds as stated a few posts back by Brendanmurphy.
Hopefully the "official" 2.1 update makes the GPS work better!
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slow for me as we.. Telus on AT&T. What a joke. When I'm outdoors my N-series would lock insanely fast. I couldn't even Google Maps for crap yesterday in the daylight. Ugh.
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All folks running using Telus milestone with ATT sim card will only be able to get autonomous GPS and not Assisted GPS location fixes. The problem is that the server that delivers assistance data to the phone is tied to Telus and you can't access that server from ATT network or via wifi because it is behind Telus's firewall. That is why sometimes milestone may have issues getting fixes. I have my milestone from Latin America and have not had any problems with GPS.
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All folks running using Telus milestone with ATT sim card will only be able to get autonomous GPS and not Assisted GPS location fixes. The problem is that the server that delivers assistance data to the phone is tied to Telus and you can't access that server from ATT network or via wifi because it is behind Telus's firewall. That is why sometimes milestone may have issues getting fixes. I have my milestone from Latin America and have not had any problems with GPS.
Is there a setting somewhere that can be changed so the aGPS looks to AT&Ts server vs. Telus's server for the aGPS data? A line of code in a file, etc???
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Have you already rooted your phone? Can you modify files on the file system?
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Have you already rooted your phone? Can you modify files on the file system?
I have not, but with Astro File Manager it appears I can access at least some of the system config files...

Which file needs to be modified? What is the new settings?

Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated!
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I don't have a data plan to test if assisted GPS would help, but one issue may be that the assisted GPS is set up to search for supl.telusmobility.com.

If you open \etc\location.cfg, and scroll down halfway, you'll notice two entries with supl.telusmobility.com. I believe you can only access that server on the Telus network.

To change this entry, you'll need to have root access and remount the system partition to gain write access.

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[HOW TO] Root Telus Milestone without wiping or losing Telus firmware

Modifying \etc\location.cfg:
Turn on USB debugging and connect the USB cable and launch "adb shell" from the android SDK tools folder.

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lanoisullid - That was really very cool. You almost figured it out .

However, the file that needs to be changed is /data/location/location.cfg. For going to google supl server for assistance, it's a 2 step process. You would have to modify hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276 for both the telus entries in /data/location/location.cfg and you would have to set the line with security = 0 in /system/etc/location.cfg.

For going to ATT assistance server (which seems to be down for the last few days ) just modify /data/location/location.cfg and have nothing in hslp_address line. e.g.
hslp_address =

This should work for you.
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lanoisullid - That was really very cool. You almost figured it out .

However, the file that needs to be changed is /data/location/location.cfg. For going to google supl server for assistance, it's a 2 step process. You would have to modify hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276 for both the telus entries in /data/location/location.cfg and you would have to set the line with security = 0 in /system/etc/location.cfg.

For going to ATT assistance server (which seems to be down for the last few days ) just modify /data/location/location.cfg and have nothing in hslp_address line. e.g.
hslp_address =

This should work for you.
Is there any way to modify these files on a non-rooted phone?

What would be the exact steps to do this?
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Ah...I should have known that /data directory required root user access to view the contents; I was being lazy and just browsing files using ES File Explorer.

On my Milestone, the /etc/location.cfg and /data/location/location.cfg were both identical except for:

DL_DB_FEATURE_ID_LOCATION_STATE = 0
IS_VALID_LAST_DRV_TCXO = 1
LAST_DRV_TCXO = -747

where these above values were set to 0 in /etc/location.cfg.

So for both these files, I set the following
DL_LCS_SUPL_SECURITY_ON = 0
hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276
default_hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276

Sounds about right to you Agatsya?

I really should get a data plan one day to try this out


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lanoisullid - That was really very cool. You almost figured it out .

However, the file that needs to be changed is /data/location/location.cfg. For going to google supl server for assistance, it's a 2 step process. You would have to modify hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276 for both the telus entries in /data/location/location.cfg and you would have to set the line with security = 0 in /system/etc/location.cfg.

For going to ATT assistance server (which seems to be down for the last few days ) just modify /data/location/location.cfg and have nothing in hslp_address line. e.g.
hslp_address =

This should work for you.
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Unless I'm mistaken, only the root user has access to the files in /data. So you'll need to root your phone following the steps at [HOW TO] Root Telus Milestone without wiping or losing Telus firmware

It's a two step process where you first flash the recovery with a rootable SBF, and then apply an update.zip to gain root access. The translation in the link was a bit off, and I found the more legible instructions on the second page which is as follows:

1. Download zip, rename it update.zip and copy it to the root of the sd card
2. Switch off phone
3. Keep holding the camera button pressed until you see /!\ on your screen
4. Press volume up and then (while keep pressing the volume up) the camera button
5. Use the dpad to select update.zip from sd card


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lanoisullid - You are all set, Give it a shot . You would notice that your DL_DB_FEATURE_ID_LOCATION_STATE is 1 when you turn "Use GPS Satellites" on from the settings menu. Oh, and you need to reset the phone for your file changes to take into effect.
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All folks running using Telus milestone with ATT sim card will only be able to get autonomous GPS and not Assisted GPS location fixes. The problem is that the server that delivers assistance data to the phone is tied to Telus and you can't access that server from ATT network or via wifi because it is behind Telus's firewall. That is why sometimes milestone may have issues getting fixes. I have my milestone from Latin America and have not had any problems with GPS.
What are your settings in your "Location.cfg" file for the two lines that contain "telusmobility" in the Telus phone?
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My hslp_address is set to blank. Like i said, the ATT assistance server seems to be down right now, and it takes me about 60 seconds or so for a GPS fix otherwise it used to take me < 15 seconds to obtain a GPS fix.
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My hslp_address is set to blank. Like i said, the ATT assistance server seems to be down right now, and it takes me about 60 seconds or so for a GPS fix otherwise it used to take me < 15 seconds to obtain a GPS fix.
So if mine was blank, by default it would use AT&T's Assistance Server but because it has some Telus info in there it won't???
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HSLP Address is the ip address that the phone would connect to obtain assistance data. For telus phones, the ip address that supl.telusmobility.com resolves to an ip address that is behind the firewall of Telus network which can't be accessed using ATT's sim card. Just leave it blank and then when you start any kind of GPS test application, you would see the up and down arrows blink in the data indication on the status bar, meaning there is some data activity due to GPS.
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Ok, im in ADB and keep getting an invalid arguement when trying to mount. Any suggestions?
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I am on Rogers using Telus Milestone and I was also suffering from slow GPS fix. I have rooted the phone, updated location.cfg as suggested here and on a thread in alldroid and GPS fix is very fast now.

However, my cell tower location service (not the GPS, but the cell-tower based) does not work properly since I upgraded from 2.0.1 to 2.1 Now it always remembers the last place I booted the phone at. A-GPS kicks in and fixes it in seconds, but this messes up local searches in google, weather widgets/etc - everything that relies on cell tower location data. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
As a note - wifi-assisted location works fine, it is just cell-tower assited one that hangs when using non-TELUS sim.

I wonder if this is another change to location.cfg that ties the phone to TELUS network use only - just like the a-gps. Anybody with non-Telus or Telus 2.0.1 phone - can you share your location.cfg file (phone needs to be rooted to access it though). I would like to compare the whole file with mine to see if there are any other 'customizations' TELUS did in the 2.1 firmware...
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I am running 2.1 on my Telus Milestone (on AT&T). While the location.cfg file is still pointing to the Telusmobility servers for aGPS, the GPS in 2.1 is noticably faster than 2.01. In 2.01 it could take up to 4-5 minutes to get a fix, in 2.1 I usually have a fix in abou 45-60 seconds...

Now I wish I could just update the location.cfg file easily and get aGPS working!
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I don't have a data plan to test if assisted GPS would help, but one issue may be that the assisted GPS is set up to search for supl.telusmobility.com.

If you open \etc\location.cfg, and scroll down halfway, you'll notice two entries with supl.telusmobility.com. I believe you can only access that server on the Telus network.

To change this entry, you'll need to have root access and remount the system partition to gain write access.

Root access:
[HOW TO] Root Telus Milestone without wiping or losing Telus firmware

Modifying \etc\location.cfg:
Turn on USB debugging and connect the USB cable and launch "adb shell" from the android SDK tools folder.

Code:
su
mount -o remount,rw /dev/mtd/mtdblock6 /system
Make the change in \etc\location.cfg to something like supl.google.com:7276
Then remount as read only
Code:
mount -o remount,ro /dev/mtd/mtdblock6 /system
I am into the phone using ADB Shell from the SDK, have gained SU access (after confirming access on the Milestone), and am trying to use ASTRO file manager to edit the listed files, but after executing

Code:
mount -o remount,rw /dev/mtd/mtdblock6 /system
It's still show with -r- permission in Astro, and the /data folder is showing empty in Astro... Could this be an indication that my phone isn't correctly rooted or something?

I have the Telus Milestone running Android 2.1 update 1, and followed the vulnerable recovery guides, and rooted using "milestone_root.zip" found on the Alldroid.org forum...
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Forgot to mention that the /etc/location.cfg file itself has read only permission.

You need to do the following in adb shell:
- chmod location.cfg 666
- edit the file
- chmod location.cfg 644

As for the /data/location/location.cfg, you'll need a file manager that has root access. I just used the cp command to copy the file over to my SD card, edited the file, then copied the file back to /data/location

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I am into the phone using ADB Shell from the SDK, have gained SU access (after confirming access on the Milestone), and am trying to use ASTRO file manager to edit the listed files, but after executing

Code:
mount -o remount,rw /dev/mtd/mtdblock6 /system
It's still show with -r- permission in Astro, and the /data folder is showing empty in Astro... Could this be an indication that my phone isn't correctly rooted or something?

I have the Telus Milestone running Android 2.1 update 1, and followed the vulnerable recovery guides, and rooted using "milestone_root.zip" found on the Alldroid.org forum...
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For some reason, my Milestone refuses to accept the vulnerable recovery SBF that is described in other posts, making it unrootable (at least for now).

But for those of us who have a Telus Milestone, I've found an EASY solution... Just dump the existing Telus firmware, and re-flash your phone with the Thai firmware. It by default is setup to go with Google servers for aGPS, and now that I flashed with it, I get aGPS locks in under 2 seconds, and full GPS locks in around 6 seconds. Best part, NO TELUS CRAP in the firmware. It appears to be pure Android, turning the Milestone into an OEM device!

I'm still trying to figure out why it cannot get rooted, but that will come later.
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For some reason, my Milestone refuses to accept the vulnerable recovery SBF that is described in other posts, making it unrootable (at least for now).

But for those of us who have a Telus Milestone, I've found an EASY solution... Just dump the existing Telus firmware, and re-flash your phone with the Thai firmware. It by default is setup to go with Google servers for aGPS, and now that I flashed with it, I get aGPS locks in under 2 seconds, and full GPS locks in around 6 seconds. Best part, NO TELUS CRAP in the firmware. It appears to be pure Android, turning the Milestone into an OEM device!

I'm still trying to figure out why it cannot get rooted, but that will come later.
Can you do that without rooting?

What are the exact steps to do that?

Is there any downside to going with the Thai firmware vs. the standard Telus firmware. (I am running 2.1-update1).
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theres nothing Telus in our firmware except the SUPL thing... at least nothing we can notice. No point in putting Thai on your device. It'll just make things more complicated when you upgrade...
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However, my cell tower location service (not the GPS, but the cell-tower based) does not work properly since I upgraded from 2.0.1 to 2.1 Now it always remembers the last place I booted the phone at. A-GPS kicks in and fixes it in seconds, but this messes up local searches in google, weather widgets/etc - everything that relies on cell tower location data. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
Yes, I have the same problem since I updated from 2.0.1 to 2.1. I'm very annoyed about this. And I didn't find a solution until now. I have this problem only with 3G networks. If I limit the access to 2G networks everything works fine. And I have this problem only in my o2 Germany network. Other networks like Vodafone work fine with 3G. It's quite strange!

I compared the location.cfg files of Release 2.0.1 with that of 2.1 but there are no changes that can be made responsible for the problem. There has to be another reason.

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Thanks for this useful post.. I have tried on my Telus Milestone running 2.1 and it works perfectly. GPS lock in under 5 seconds vs 25 min before. It is unlocked and on the Rogers Wireless Network.

I have put up this little guide for fellow guys who are still struggling
credits goes to whoever posted above me. I am just putting them together in an easy to follow format.

P/S: to unroot your phone. Use RSD lite and download the complete telus firmware and flash it back in. You can unroot it within mins for warranty.

Things you need before doing it:
Vulnerable Recovery flash file vr.sbf (I can't upload this file because the forum only allows zip file os 143kb in size -_-; )
RSD Lite by Motorola v 4.7 or above (google this and vr.sbf)
Motorola ADB Drivers 32bit or 64bit depends on your OS
Android SDK
milestone_root.zip (get it from the other post)
Unrooted Motorola Milestone

Code:
Install all drivers and RSD lite
Flash vr.sbf to ur milestone
Copy milestone_root.zip to your SD Card. Rename it to update.zip
Turn off your milestone
Turn on by holding camera button and power button until you see a yellow triangle.
Release the two button and press and hold volume up + camera button
Slide open your keyboard and choice "apply update.zip"
Reboot in menu
You Milestone is now ROOTED

Code:
Enable USB debugging in Android
Commands to execute:
Now you need to go to the folder that you have your Android SDK
I have extracted mine on D:/AndroidSDK/
You can put yours anywhere you want
Code:
Click Start
Click Run
Type cmd
D:
cd AndroidSDK
cd tools
make sure you see the device SN
Code:
adb devices
obtain files onto ur D drive
because by default Windows 7 doesn't let you obtain files on C drive for security reason

obtain this file
Code:
adb pull /etc/location.cfg D:\location_etc.txt
obtain this one as well
Code:
adb pull /data/location/location.cfg D:\location_data.txt
Open them with WordPad and change the following

Code:
DL_LCS_SUPL_SECURITY_ON = 0
hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276
default_hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276
Notice the following might be different between these two files

DL_DB_FEATURE_ID_LOCATION_STATE = 0
IS_VALID_LAST_DRV_TCXO = 1
LAST_DRV_TCXO = -747

DL_DB_FEATURE_ID_LOCATION_STATE is 1 when you turn "Use GPS Satellites" on from the settings menu.
Oh, and you need to RESTART the phone for your file changes to take into effect. so sure this is the same in both file

after editing, save and push both files to your sd card
Code:
adb push D:\data_location_location_cfg.txt /sdcard/data_location_location_cfg.txt
adb push D:\etc_location_cfg.txt /sdcard/etc_location_cfg.txt
su and mount the system as read-write
If you get an error, check your phone screen and you should see a popup asking you Yes/No/Always. Click Always and try this command again\

Code:
su
mount -o remount,rw /dev/mtd/mtdblock6 /system
make location.cfg read-write because this file itself is read-only
Code:
chmod 666 /etc/location.cfg
cp the files to their correct location with -f to overwrite the existing one
Code:
cp -f /sdcard/data_location_location_cfg.txt /data/location/location.cfg
cp -f /sdcard/etc_location_cfg.txt /etc/location.cfg
change it back to read-only
Code:
chmod 644 /etc/location.cfg
mount the system back to read-only
Code:
mount -o remount,ro /dev/mtd/mtdblock6 /system
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You Milestone is now ROOTED

Code:
Enable USB debugging in Android
Commands to execute:
Now you need to go to the folder that you have your Android SDK
I have extracted mine on D:/AndroidSDK/
You can put yours anywhere you want
Code:
Click Start
Click Run
Type cmd
D:
cd AndroidSDK
cd tools
make sure you see the device SN
Code:
adb devices
obtain files onto ur D drive
because by default Windows 7 doesn't let you obtain files on C drive for security reason

obtain this file
Code:
adb pull /etc/location.cfg D:\location_etc.txt
obtain this one as well
Code:
adb pull /data/location/location.cfg D:\location_data.txt
Open them with WordPad and change the following

Code:
DL_LCS_SUPL_SECURITY_ON = 0
hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276
default_hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276
Notice the following might be different between these two files

DL_DB_FEATURE_ID_LOCATION_STATE = 0
IS_VALID_LAST_DRV_TCXO = 1
LAST_DRV_TCXO = -747

DL_DB_FEATURE_ID_LOCATION_STATE is 1 when you turn "Use GPS Satellites" on from the settings menu.
Oh, and you need to RESTART the phone for your file changes to take into effect. so sure this is the same in both file

after editing, save and push both files to your sd card
Code:
adb push D:\data_location_location_cfg.txt /sdcard/data_location_location_cfg.txt
adb push D:\etc_location_cfg.txt /sdcard/etc_location_cfg.txt
su and mount the system as read-write
If you get an error, check your phone screen and you should see a popup asking you Yes/No/Always. Click Always and try this command again\

Code:
su
mount -o remount,rw /dev/mtd/mtdblock6 /system
make location.cfg read-write because this file itself is read-only
Code:
chmod 666 /etc/location.cfg
cp the files to their correct location with -f to overwrite the existing one
Code:
cp -f /sdcard/data_location_location_cfg.txt /data/location/location.cfg
cp -f /sdcard/etc_location_cfg.txt /etc/location.cfg
change it back to read-only
Code:
chmod 644 /etc/location.cfg
mount the system back to read-only
Code:
mount -o remount,ro /dev/mtd/mtdblock6 /system
There is a MUCH easier way than all of the above after you have Rooted.

Simply purchase the app "Root Explorer" in the Market (it is about $2.75 USD). Once you are rooted and Root Explorer is installed simply change the following lines in the following files:

The files:

/etc/location.cfg
/data/location/location.cfg


The changes:

In each file above you will fine the following lines:

DL_LCS_SUPL_SECURITY_ON = 1

hslp_address = supl.telusmobility.com:7275
default_hslp_address = supl.telusmobility.com:7275


Change those lines to be:

DL_LCS_SUPL_SECURITY_ON = 0

hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276
default_hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276


You may have to use Root Explorer to change the folders from Read Only (R/O) to Read/Write (R/W) to make the changes, once you are done with each change make sure you set that folder back to the proper permissions (R/O or R/W).

That's it, once you are done, reboot the phone and enjoy a REALLY fast locking aGPS!
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There is a MUCH easier way than all of the above after you have Rooted.

Simply purchase the app "Root Explorer" in the Market (it is about $2.75 USD). Once you are rooted and Root Explorer is installed simply change the following lines in the following files:

The files:

/etc/location.cfg
/data/location/location.cfg
/system/etc/location.cfg


The changes:

In each file above you will fine the following lines:

DL_LCS_SUPL_SECURITY_ON = 1

hslp_address = supl.telusmobility.com:7275
default_hslp_address = supl.telusmobility.com:7275


Change those lines to be:

DL_LCS_SUPL_SECURITY_ON = 0

hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276
default_hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276


You may have to use Root Explorer to change the folders from Read Only (R/O) to Read/Write (R/W) to make the changes, once you are done with each change make sure you set that folder back to the proper permissions (R/O or R/W).

That's it, once you are done, reboot the phone and enjoy a REALLY fast locking aGPS!
thanks for the comment

I am so cheap that I don't wanna spend the money.
I believe a true rooter should know the basics too.
But yea it is much easier this way.

P/S:
/etc/location.cfg and /system/etc/location.cfg is actually the same file
because the system mounts /etc into /system
with this command
Code:
mount -o remount,ro /dev/mtd/mtdblock6 /system
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thanks for the comment

I am so cheap that I don't wanna spend the money.
I believe a true rooter should know the basics too.
But yea it is much easier this way.]
Well I would say anyone who roots a phone is a "True Rooter"...

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P/S:
/etc/location.cfg and /system/etc/location.cfg is actually the same file
because the system mounts /etc into /system
with this command
Code:
mount -o remount,ro /dev/mtd/mtdblock6 /system
Yeah, that is what I thought, but I saw the comment about /system/etc/location.cfg on another thread so I thought I'd include it just in case.

To me the $2.75 was WELL worth not risking screwing something else up using shell commands in root. It was unbelievably simple with "Root Explorer".
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so i have root explorer...how do you make changes to the actual text? like i pull up the .cfg file and there's a bunch of stuff...but i can't edit anything. am i missing something?

k i figured out how to type stuff..but only at the start..i can't go to the actual part i need to change. i can only type stuff at the very beginning at the top of the screen.
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so i have root explorer...how do you make changes to the actual text? like i pull up the .cfg file and there's a bunch of stuff...but i can't edit anything. am i missing something?

k i figured out how to type stuff..but only at the start..i can't go to the actual part i need to change. i can only type stuff at the very beginning at the top of the screen.
I ended up copying each of them to my SD card. Named them so I would KNOW it's a specific folder's location.cfg. Then I edited them in Notepad on my computer. Copied them back using root explorer. Voila.

Don't like to take chances using my small screen and keyboard with system files Granted this file isn't THAt important to my phone....
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so i have root explorer...how do you make changes to the actual text? like i pull up the .cfg file and there's a bunch of stuff...but i can't edit anything. am i missing something?

k i figured out how to type stuff..but only at the start..i can't go to the actual part i need to change. i can only type stuff at the very beginning at the top of the screen.
Is your phone "rooted"? You need to have a rooted phone to be able to change system files.
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my GPS from the second i start it takes about 3-5 seconds to connect and acquire a signal.

milestone 2.1 update 1 non rooted.
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my GPS from the second i start it takes about 3-5 seconds to connect and acquire a signal.

milestone 2.1 update 1 non rooted.
Yes, as it should. You are obviously on the proper network for the phone (which means all the settings are correct). The problem is when you buy a phone and unlock it to a different carrier (i.e. buy a Telus Milestone and run it on AT&T's network), you will not get aGPS, just GPS which takes longer to get a position lock due to the lack of assistance.

Making the changes noted above solve the problem.
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I'm using the Telus Fast & Lite v. 3 backup and have been experiencing rather slow GPS lock. I saw somewhere that it might be because in this backup the supl servers are set to Cingular (and I'm on Telus).

I tried to verify myself but for whatever reason can't seem to access my location.cfg files. I have GOT's 1.04a OpenRecovery and have selected "root", which I assume gives you root access. Then I launch adb shell, and I get this prompt:

G.O.T.-Recovery - /
#

If memory serves, I think the # prompt means I'm root. In any event, when I try to su it just says "su: unknown user root".

Anyway, so I try cd data. That works, but then I don't see any subdirectories. Just in case I'm missing something, I then try cd location, and bash tells me there is no such file or directory. Same thing with /system which I can see, but can't cd into etc. When I ls it shows no subdirectories.

Needless to say, I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. Anyway just in case I was missing something took the liberty of trying to mount a rw copy anyway, so merrily type in:

mount -o remount,rw /dev/mtd/mtdblock6 /system

But I get this message, which I guess shouldn't be a surprise:

mount: mounting /dev/mtd/mtdblock6 on /system failed: Invalid argument

Might anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Any suggestions would be most appreciated!

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Ah...I should have known that /data directory required root user access to view the contents; I was being lazy and just browsing files using ES File Explorer.

On my Milestone, the /etc/location.cfg and /data/location/location.cfg were both identical except for:

DL_DB_FEATURE_ID_LOCATION_STATE = 0
IS_VALID_LAST_DRV_TCXO = 1
LAST_DRV_TCXO = -747

where these above values were set to 0 in /etc/location.cfg.

So for both these files, I set the following
DL_LCS_SUPL_SECURITY_ON = 0
hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276
default_hslp_address = supl.google.com:7276

Sounds about right to you Agatsya?

I really should get a data plan one day to try this out
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Mine is a Milestone A854..It too quit receiving GPS signals..After going over all settings several times, doing a reset shown in Privacy setting, I finally removed the battery while the unit was on, removed the memory card (SIM ?) for a few minutes, then replaced it and the battery..At power on, the unit made some strange chirping sounds and now accesses GPS signals within five seconds..Whether this procedure will work for others is to be seen..
The GPS icon now even shows when the camera is in use when GPS is turned on..
Hope this may help..
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im in Australia and my GPS works fine 95% of the time which is good but when i went to Hong Kong i was going to use GPS to find my way around and the GPS did not work at all.
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im in Australia and my GPS works fine 95% of the time which is good but when i went to Hong Kong i was going to use GPS to find my way around and the GPS did not work at all.
The US military scrambles the GPS signal in some regions of the world for strategical or political reasons. Maybe China is part of this areas. Furthermore China is building up it's own navigation system named "Compass". Maybe the US are angry about that and this is their "revenge".

When Europe was starting their system named "Gallileo" there also were political conflicts between Europe and the USA. After long consultations they agreed on using the new system as an integral part of the existing one expanding and not disturbing it. The US then gave up their retention. I question that same consultations took place between China and the US.

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im in Australia and my GPS works fine 95% of the time which is good but when i went to Hong Kong i was going to use GPS to find my way around and the GPS did not work at all.
I had the same issue in France. Here in Melbourne (Optus) it locks on almost instantly. When I went to France is barely worked at all, and then only after a very long time. I am guessing it is to do with aGPS and home networks, plus nobody uses data roaming due to the ridiculous cost so lack of Internet may also have contributed. I went to the trouble of installing apps and offline maps before I went only to find it all next to useless once I left Australia. Luckily my Europcar rental had an in dash GPS anyway.

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Although I have motorola Defy I'd been struggling with the same issue until your solution worked like a charm Thanks a lot guys
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